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oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

if it makes you happy, unlikely it can hurt. but that should all be treated in some way so theoretically won't rust.

simple solution, don't live in the salted road capital of the world.

Good point but a can of WD-40 is cheaper than moving.

oldfarmer50

A while back driver100 asked me if I was interested in buying the 2021 E Mustang. I told him that whatever that was it wasn’t a Mustang.

Now I’ve found an electric Mustang that I might be interested in.

https://youtu.be/uyd6ONBV5V4

tjc78

WD-40 flashes off over time. You would be better off with regular oil.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

A while back driver100 asked me if I was interested in buying the 2021 E Mustang. I told him that whatever that was it wasn’t a Mustang.

Now I’ve found an electric Mustang that I might be interested in.

I am sure you will be interested.....until you find out the price.

Not a bad car though....impressive.... Ford claims the electric dragster scorched the quarter-mile in 8.27 seconds at 168 mph; it also threw down 1,502 wheel horsepower, beyond the 1,400 it was anticipated to have.

Might be fun to drive!

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

An old and time-honored practice. Up here the service stations used to promote oil spraying - using waste motor oil they collected - which was similar to what you did, except they put the car on the hoist and sprayed the undercarriage too. Later that morphed to them offering "grease and graphite" treatments, applied in the same manner. I believe that was an actual product they bought rather than recycled motor oil.

In the late '70s/early '80s engineered products sprayed into cavities and crevices that were thin enough to creep into hidden seams, etc became very popular here - Rust Check was first, then Krown which was slightly less runny. They do work well if you are diligent in doing them annually. I see an '80s Regal here regularly that has maybe 20 annual Rust Check stickers on the windows and it still looks almost new. Up here you can buy aerosol cans of Rust Check and other rust preventative compounds like Fluid Film to do what you started doing.

stickguy

My BIL has a Tundra (first generation, not sure what year, I assume at least 10 YO at this point? Maybe more?) that he uses year round for work duty (dump runs, etc.) and as his winter drive around car (the good stuff hibernates in the garage). This is up near OldFarmer in the salt and rust belt. Every year, he crawls under it and brushes it down good, then sprays some sort of rustoleum/undercoating stuff (rattle cans I think) on the frame, in an attempt to keep it from rotting out and snapping in half, like they tend to do. So far, seems to be working!

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

Back in the 80’s I worked with a guy who poured and sprayed good ole engine oil in his doors and rocker panels just before the salt season began and he swore up and down it worked. I have to admit for as old as his cars were, they had no rust in those areas. He said he knew he got enough in there since he had drips on the paper he had on his garage floor for days.

FWIW, his name was Ron but after divulging what he did he became affectionately known as Rusty Ron and to his closest friends just Rusty which caught on pretty quickly.

So yeah, I’d say it works.

jmonroe

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

WD-40 won't do anything to prevent rust; you need a product that is formulated to prevent rust. You want something that is waxy and adheres to the surface- like this or this.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

WD-40 flashes off over time. You would be better off with regular oil.

There’s a plethora of oil choices. Some even use transmission fluid.

abacomike

I had to go to the imaging place to have a PET-Scan done early this morning (7:00 AM) to determine if there was any evidence that my liver cancer has returned or if it was spreading in my body.

After waiting for over an hour past my appointment time, they put me in a room with a recliner and searched for a viable vein in which to inject a radioactive solution. After injecting it into my vein, I was put into a reclining position and covered with a blanket for about 1 hour to allow the isotope to enter into my organs.

Then they put me into a larger than usual CT-Scanner and proceeded to do the scanning which took about 30 minutes. The tech said they would scan me from my mid thighs to about my forehead.

So I will probably find out the results on Tuesday. I didn't get out of there until 11:00 AM. Long morning.

sda

abacomike said:

I had to go to the imaging place to have a PET-Scan done early this morning (7:00 AM) to determine if there was any evidence that my liver cancer has returned or if it was spreading in my body.

After waiting for over an hour past my appointment time, they put me in a room with a recliner and searched for a viable vein in which to inject a radioactive solution. After injecting it into my vein, I was put into a reclining position and covered with a blanket for about 1 hour to allow the isotope to enter into my organs.

Then they put me into a larger than usual CT-Scanner and proceeded to do the scanning which took about 30 minutes. The tech said they would scan me from my mid thighs to about my forehead.

So I will probably find out the results on Tuesday. I didn't get out of there until 11:00 AM. Long morning.

Mike, blessings, wishing you all the best.

roadburner

sda said:

abacomike said:

I had to go to the imaging place to have a PET-Scan done early this morning (7:00 AM) to determine if there was any evidence that my liver cancer has returned or if it was spreading in my body.

After waiting for over an hour past my appointment time, they put me in a room with a recliner and searched for a viable vein in which to inject a radioactive solution. After injecting it into my vein, I was put into a reclining position and covered with a blanket for about 1 hour to allow the isotope to enter into my organs.

Then they put me into a larger than usual CT-Scanner and proceeded to do the scanning which took about 30 minutes. The tech said they would scan me from my mid thighs to about my forehead.

So I will probably find out the results on Tuesday. I didn't get out of there until 11:00 AM. Long morning.

Mike, blessings, wishing you all the best.

Ditto!

omarman

Good luck Mike.

stickguy

had enough PET scans to not ever want another one. But I did develop at taste for barium shakes...

ab348

Hope you get good news, Mike. Two weeks ago I had a MRI at 8AM on Sunday morning. I guess with COVID and long wait lists for MRIs they are doing them at all hours 7 days a week. It was very odd - there was barely anyone around in the hospital. I don't think I saw even one other patient, and very few staff. It involved being on the table of the machine with my arms extended over my head for nearly 90 minutes. Obviously it was really uncomfortable and as I have some arthritis in my left shoulder it became rather painful, but I persevered. Got the results 2 days ago, all clear.

jmonroe1

@Mike, we’re all hoping you get the same good report that @ab348 got.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

@Mike, we’re all hoping you get the same good report that @ab348 got.

jmonroe

I have to +1 with JMonroe...but, only this one time

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

I had to go to the imaging place to have a PET-Scan done early this morning (7:00 AM) to determine if there was any evidence that my liver cancer has returned or if it was spreading in my body.

After waiting for over an hour past my appointment time, they put me in a room with a recliner and searched for a viable vein in which to inject a radioactive solution. After injecting it into my vein, I was put into a reclining position and covered with a blanket for about 1 hour to allow the isotope to enter into my organs.

Then they put me into a larger than usual CT-Scanner and proceeded to do the scanning which took about 30 minutes. The tech said they would scan me from my mid thighs to about my forehead.

So I will probably find out the results on Tuesday. I didn't get out of there until 11:00 AM. Long morning.

I hope you get a clean bill.

imidazol97

Bob Newhart, 91, 09/05/1929

graphicguy

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

qbrozen

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

May I ask what they pay for these swaps? I’m surprised they don’t have a $15/hr lot boys for this.

roadburner

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

How much coffee did you have to drink to stay awake for the Corolla runs? I think I'd need a caffeine IV pump to last longer than a couple of minutes.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

May I ask what they pay for these swaps? I’m surprised they don’t have a $15/hr lot boys for this.

Around here, it's probably $12/hr lot boys.

But, if you are paying a lot boy, you are keeping them busy on the lot, or it isn't worth it. Hiring a retiree just when you need them is cost-effective. Plus, putting new cars in the hands of 18-25 year olds is not the best thing, ever. When I was 19, I worked for Hertz at CVG, shuttling cars. Who knew a '77 Impala would do 110 mph?

driver100

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

Wow....business is booming. This is almost like a new category of a business.....indie dealer swapper guy.

fintail

Makes me think of a big Oldsmobile:

https://youtu.be/0JdxlRIcn1k

My dad loved this show, lots of sentimentality with the intro alone.

imidazol97 said:

Bob Newhart, 91, 09/05/1929

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

Bob Newhart, 91, 09/05/1929

That’s sad. I don’t recall any of his shows that I didn’t like.

kyfdx

He isn't dead, is he? Just his birthday?

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

I always thought the Corolla interiors were the cheapest looking around, even cheaper than Nissan’s. Good for the purpose they are made for. If you want performance in a little car get a Honda Civic R.

I agree, dealers are selling cars. We are emptying out our offices all over the Northeast. We’re not delivering a lot to dealers so maybe they’re just sending them to auction. Must be like Varoom, making a killing while they can. I know our local holding lots are still empty.

Are all the car makers back to full production yet?

stickguy

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

May I ask what they pay for these swaps? I’m surprised they don’t have a $15/hr lot boys for this.

Around here, it's probably $12/hr lot boys.

But, if you are paying a lot boy, you are keeping them busy on the lot, or it isn't worth it. Hiring a retiree just when you need them is cost-effective. Plus, putting new cars in the hands of 18-25 year olds is not the best thing, ever. When I was 19, I worked for Hertz at CVG, shuttling cars. Who knew a '77 Impala would do 110 mph?

that sounds logical, until the old guy turns out the be GG, RB or OF. Oops. Who knew a Corolla could do 105 and perform a 4 wheel drift?

oldfarmer50

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

May I ask what they pay for these swaps? I’m surprised they don’t have a $15/hr lot boys for this.

Around here, it's probably $12/hr lot boys.

But, if you are paying a lot boy, you are keeping them busy on the lot, or it isn't worth it. Hiring a retiree just when you need them is cost-effective. Plus, putting new cars in the hands of 18-25 year olds is not the best thing, ever. When I was 19, I worked for Hertz at CVG, shuttling cars. Who knew a '77 Impala would do 110 mph?

I wondered the same thing as most dealers around here hire retirees to do swaps instead of outside contractors. I imagine that they save on government mandated expenses like worker’s comp, disability and 6.2% social security tax. Also GG must hold his own business insurance so if he rolls an Impala doing 110 the dealer is off the hook.

Hiring kids as you mentioned is not always a good idea. Many years ago a youngster transporting for a dealer rolled a new car on my lawn when he took the corner too fast. Took out a row of 10’ Arborvitae trees.

I can imagine his boss was not amused.

qbrozen

Maybe GG needs a youtube channel

imidazol97

kyfdx said:

He isn't dead, is he? Just his birthday?

Just his birthday. I didn't think he was that old.

Raquel Welch turned 80 today.

I believe Mitzy Gaynor just passed away. South Pacific.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

He isn't dead, is he? Just his birthday?

Just his birthday. I didn't think he was that old.

Raquel Welch turned 80 today.

I believe Mitzy Gaynor just passed away. South Pacific.

The first Newhart show was on in the '60s, though, right? Suzanne Pleshette!

abacomike

Went up to Boca Raton to visit one of my dear friends - stopped off at Einstein's Bagels and picked up bagels, cream cheese, nova lox, capers, tomatoes and onions for lunch. It was quite tasty.

This is the guy who passed out in the shower in October of last year and ended up breaking his neck - had two surgeries to fix the broken vertebrae. About 10 weeks ago, he again lost consciousness in his garage and ended up breaking his wrist. Spent 2 weeks in the hospital and 8 weeks in rehab learning how to walk again. He now has no control of urination and must wear a diaper.

He is only 70 years old and is, in my opinion, suffering from onset of dementia or Alzheimer's. I remember when my Dad started to have problems with his memory before the onset of Alzheimer's.

One year ago this guy was walking with me and my other friend at the mall 2-3 miles a day. Now he can barely make it from his living room to the kitchen with a walker.

I mention this to make a point - it doesn't take much to see your life altered in the snap of your finger. I am guessing he had one of two mini-strokes to cause his injuries and his limited bodily functions.

I asked his wife if he had had a full neurological evaluation including an EEG, MRI, CT-scan, etc., by a neurologist. Her answer was "no"! I could not believe she hasn't had him evaluated. I question her motives, that's for sure. They are quite wealthy so it sure wasn't because of the cost.

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice. 🤨☹️

stickguy

that sucks Mike. especially that young. Tom Seaver who just passed away and had aggressive dementia, was only 75.

motives? Not always sinister. Sometimes, you "know" what the answer is already, but can pretend it isn't what you are sure it is if you don't get it verified. Takes someone really cold blooded to basically commit murder just to get the joint assets to themselves. Is she way younger so some sort of gold digger potential?

abacomike

stickguy said:

that sucks Mike. especially that young. Tom Seaver who just passed away and had aggressive dementia, was only 75.

motives? Not always sinister. Sometimes, you "know" what the answer is already, but can pretend it isn't what you are sure it is if you don't get it verified. Takes someone really cold blooded to basically commit murder just to get the joint assets to themselves. Is she way younger so some sort of gold digger potential?

About 10 years younger - very active - and yes, since she is in control, a complete assessment and evaluation should have been done months ago. I believe there is some sort of pre-nup.

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

He isn't dead, is he? Just his birthday?

Just his birthday. I didn't think he was that old.

Raquel Welch turned 80 today.

I believe Mitzy Gaynor just passed away. South Pacific.

Well that’s ok then. I misunderstood your post. Nice to see he outlived the show that made him popular again.

oldfarmer50

kyfdx said:

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

He isn't dead, is he? Just his birthday?

Just his birthday. I didn't think he was that old.

Raquel Welch turned 80 today.

I believe Mitzy Gaynor just passed away. South Pacific.

The first Newhart show was on in the '60s, though, right? Suzanne Pleshette!

He was doing stand up routines back in the 50s if IRC.

abacomike

I noticed a message on my display screen indicating that an update of my car's computer had been completed successfully through Mercedes Benz Connect Services. So it would seem that updates are sent directly to the car from MBUSA. Nice feature - I don't have to wait for a service appointment to have it done.

tjc78

Rented a boat today. About as nice a day as you can get. My son caught a little fish which made him really happy.

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

Went up to Boca Raton to visit one of my dear friends - stopped off at Einstein's Bagels and picked up bagels, cream cheese, nova lox, capers, tomatoes and onions for lunch. It was quite tasty.

This is the guy who passed out in the shower in October of last year and ended up breaking his neck - had two surgeries to fix the broken vertebrae. About 10 weeks ago, he again lost consciousness in his garage and ended up breaking his wrist. Spent 2 weeks in the hospital and 8 weeks in rehab learning how to walk again. He now has no control of urination and must wear a diaper.

He is only 70 years old and is, in my opinion, suffering from onset of dementia or Alzheimer's. I remember when my Dad started to have problems with his memory before the onset of Alzheimer's.

One year ago this guy was walking with me and my other friend at the mall 2-3 miles a day. Now he can barely make it from his living room to the kitchen with a walker.

I mention this to make a point - it doesn't take much to see your life altered in the snap of your finger. I am guessing he had one of two mini-strokes to cause his injuries and his limited bodily functions.

I asked his wife if he had had a full neurological evaluation including an EEG, MRI, CT-scan, etc., by a neurologist. Her answer was "no"! I could not believe she hasn't had him evaluated. I question her motives, that's for sure. They are quite wealthy so it sure wasn't because of the cost.

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice. 🤨☹️

Some people are stubborn even as they fade. Maybe she tried and he refused.

abacomike

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

Went up to Boca Raton to visit one of my dear friends - stopped off at Einstein's Bagels and picked up bagels, cream cheese, nova lox, capers, tomatoes and onions for lunch. It was quite tasty.

This is the guy who passed out in the shower in October of last year and ended up breaking his neck - had two surgeries to fix the broken vertebrae. About 10 weeks ago, he again lost consciousness in his garage and ended up breaking his wrist. Spent 2 weeks in the hospital and 8 weeks in rehab learning how to walk again. He now has no control of urination and must wear a diaper.

He is only 70 years old and is, in my opinion, suffering from onset of dementia or Alzheimer's. I remember when my Dad started to have problems with his memory before the onset of Alzheimer's.

One year ago this guy was walking with me and my other friend at the mall 2-3 miles a day. Now he can barely make it from his living room to the kitchen with a walker.

I mention this to make a point - it doesn't take much to see your life altered in the snap of your finger. I am guessing he had one of two mini-strokes to cause his injuries and his limited bodily functions.

I asked his wife if he had had a full neurological evaluation including an EEG, MRI, CT-scan, etc., by a neurologist. Her answer was "no"! I could not believe she hasn't had him evaluated. I question her motives, that's for sure. They are quite wealthy so it sure wasn't because of the cost.

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice. 🤨☹️

Some people are stubborn even as they fade. Maybe she tried and he refused.

You are correct! He has always been stubborn and controlling. But while he was in the hospital, it should have been done.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

Did 4 transports yesterday. 1 Corolla to a dealer less than 10 miles away from the original dealer, 1 Corolla to bring back, 1 RDX to Dayton, and 1 RDX back. They were all for color swaps.

I know they just redesigned the Corolla, and for a first timer driving their first new car, probably a good choice. But, forget about Toyota’s advertising showing how sporty they are. They ain’t....not in the least.

Heading out to do an Accord color swap now. Hopefully, pick up another couple of transports in the meantime.

Dealers are selling cars.

I always thought the Corolla interiors were the cheapest looking around, even cheaper than Nissan’s. Good for the purpose they are made for. If you want performance in a little car get a Honda Civic R.

I agree, dealers are selling cars. We are emptying out our offices all over the Northeast. We’re not delivering a lot to dealers so maybe they’re just sending them to auction. Must be like Varoom, making a killing while they can. I know our local holding lots are still empty.

Are all the car makers back to full production yet?

In Canada new car business is booming....can't keep up - pent up demand!

stickguy

there are things that if my wife would let a doctor do to me, I would come back to haunt her. And she knows it.

omarman

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice.

Sorry to hear about your friend, but at least it shows that he's got a friend who has his best interest at heart. Regarding test results or current dx goes your intuition is correct. But the wife is unwilling or unable to have that talk with you so I think your friend is the only way forward for that talk. I just saw that somebody posted that it's possible that the friend refused treatment or testing. Or maybe declines to talk about results from either.

Still there must have been a home care assessment before any d/c to home order was signed. And in-home follow up care/assessment after d/c. Wife may know everything about his dx, testing and treatment but only your friend can choose to open up. Are there grown children? From a previous relationship? If there is an end of life or another serious issue the staff will make repeated efforts to include the family sooner rather than later.

houdini1

Mike, if your friend has children, are they being kept informed and in the loop? If not they need to be.

abacomike

omarman said:

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice.

Sorry to hear about your friend, but at least it shows that he's got a friend who has his best interest at heart. Regarding test results or current dx goes your intuition is correct. But the wife is unwilling or unable to have that talk with you so I think your friend is the only way forward for that talk. I just saw that somebody posted that it's possible that the friend refused treatment or testing. Or maybe declines to talk about results from either.

Still there must have been a home care assessment before any d/c to home order was signed. And in-home follow up care/assessment after d/c. Wife may know everything about his dx, testing and treatment but only your friend can choose to open up. Are there grown children? From a previous relationship? If there is an end of life or another serious issue the staff will make repeated efforts to include the family sooner rather than later.

No children or living relatives.

oldfarmer50

Hey here’s an interesting problem. Ever since I bought a used car for my son I have been getting email from Sirius asking me to renew MY subscription. They say my trial period is running out.

The problem is that while this car is Sirius capable it did not get a trial period. Moreover, they are contacting ME about a car that is not owned by me. I find that annoying. The emails they send are the no reply type so I can’t tell them to drop dead.

Anybody have a direct email for these clowns?

omarman

abacomike said:

omarman said:

What do you guys think about her lack of getting him evaluated? I also question the doctors who treated him - especially the neurosurgeon who operated on his neck twice.

Sorry to hear about your friend, but at least it shows that he's got a friend who has his best interest at heart. Regarding test results or current dx goes your intuition is correct. But the wife is unwilling or unable to have that talk with you so I think your friend is the only way forward for that talk. I just saw that somebody posted that it's possible that the friend refused treatment or testing. Or maybe declines to talk about results from either.

Still there must have been a home care assessment before any d/c to home order was signed. And in-home follow up care/assessment after d/c. Wife may know everything about his dx, testing and treatment but only your friend can choose to open up. Are there grown children? From a previous relationship? If there is an end of life or another serious issue the staff will make repeated efforts to include the family sooner rather than later.

No children or living relatives.

Growing number of elderly are in that situation now. With a spouse and resources there's hope for a reasonable safety net. But having friends for support has an amazing impact all by itself. With or without kids or living relatives. Hard to describe really, but this gif with Louie and Robin makes the right picture in my mind. I think it's from the episode Barney/Never.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

That’s sad. I don’t recall any of his shows that I didn’t like.

One word "Bob".