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driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

It's got the horse on the front of it! Looks like The Ford Marketing Department threw you under the bus - I'd sue!

This also has a horse on the front of it, is this a Mustang?

That's not a Mustang horsey....that is a "Prancing Horse", so that is not a Mustang!

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

That's because you're looking at the wrong cars, you should be driving one of these:

Does it come with a lawn mower attachment?

Does it run like a deer....bumpy and jumping from side to side?

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

I was thinking the same thing. All kidding aside he should find someone he trusts to take it out every few weeks. Gooey gas and dead batteries can’t be good for the car.

It could be done....but, have to call insurance company and have insurance added, for a few days...then removed. And, our nice neighbors who would probably do it for us would have to unhook it from the trickle charger and put it back on again. Also, like that it is full of gas right now. Would be nice but not easily done.

driver100

suydam said:

Heard this exchange between neighbors this morning while dog walking.
“Did you get a new car?”
“Yes I did.”
“Is that a Nissan?”
“I don’t know. I just like the way it looks.”

I always wondered why someone would actually choose to buy a Nissan over the competition, which is generally more reliable, has higher resale value, and have better handling cars. Now I see!

graphicguy

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

Michaell....I thought it was a good car. It's the kind of car you drive and think..."this car has a lot going for it for the price". It's not fast, but quick enough. It handles pretty well for a big car, and honestly, I didn't feel a bit of torque steer. Every thing about it is smooth and it's filled with gobs of tech and options.

I liked the TRD much more than the Limited, which wasn't nearly as sharp, and felt like it was geared differently even though the drivetrain between the two are the same.

RB....Saw a Camry TRD at one of the dealerships. Would have liked it a lot more if it didn't have a wing on the back. Not sure if that was a dealer installed option, or part of the TRD package. But, it did the Camry no favors.

Michaell

graphicguy said:

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

Michaell....I thought it was a good car. It's the kind of car you drive and think..."this car has a lot going for it for the price". It's not fast, but quick enough. It handles pretty well for a big car, and honestly, I didn't feel a bit of torque steer. Every thing about it is smooth and it's filled with gobs of tech and options.

I liked the TRD much more than the Limited, which wasn't nearly as sharp, and felt like it was geared differently even though the drivetrain between the two are the same.

RB....Saw a Camry TRD at one of the dealerships. Would have liked it a lot more if it didn't have a wing on the back. Not sure if that was a dealer installed option, or part of the TRD package. But, it did the Camry no favors.

Thanks for the capsule review. I guess it could be considered an alternative to the Maxima.

houdini1

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

A week or so ago I purchased an air fryer, well tonight I decided to give it its first workout and made some chicken strips and french fries. They turned out pretty good and I am looking forward to trying out other things with it. Anyone else use an air fryer?

I don't know anything about air fryers. What do you use, air virgin cooking oil?

Are air fryers the same thing as convection ovens?

houdini1

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

That's because you're looking at the wrong cars, you should be driving one of these:

That’s pretty awesome. Where did you find it?

I like it but I have seen better wheels on their lawn mowers. Guess they were going for the rugged tractor look.

qbrozen

houdini1 said:

I like it but I have seen better wheels on their lawn mowers. Guess they were going for the rugged tractor look.

My John Deere has yellow steelies on it, so matches mine.

nyccarguy

stickguy

afraid to ask what that beast cost to create.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

As to my current ride, it hasn’t hit 14k miles yet so still feels new. Today I just ordered a new set of tires for it because the OEM are past the 5 year replacement deadline. Plenty of tread left but getting too old.

There’s really nothing on a new (real) Mustang that makes it a must have. I suppose I could get one with the magnetic shocks or the performance pack but that would drive the cost beyond my limits. As to power, mine puts out as much as a 2020 (460hp) thanks to some modest mods. The only way to go beyond that is to spend a ton more money on something like a GT 350.

Bottom line is I don’t drive it often enough to replace it. That’s the curse of trying to spread 12k miles of driving among 4 vehicles.

Yeh, no need to replace, and 460 h.p. is nice to have....for safety purposes only - like getting onto a highway.
They usually say tires are good for 6 years, and I have a feeling that might be a year or two on the extra safe side.....suggested by the tire makers.

ronsteve

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

But can you polish a TRD?

driver100

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

AMG sounds better than T_RD.
Mercedes has an AMG too:
2021 AMG E63

driver100

ronsteve said:

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

But can you polish a TRD?

Yes, but it never smells great!

dino001

Insurance... just got a renewal offer. About ten percent up, so othing to scream about... But again, all the talk about discounts, five yeats of continuous coverage, accident free, claim free, yet they still manage to pull the bill up ten percent from last time, Pretty much clawing bach all those generous rebates they paid during Covid months and a a few bucks bit more.

kyfdx

My wife’s insurance premium is dropping about 12% starting next month.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

It's got the horse on the front of it! Looks like The Ford Marketing Department threw you under the bus - I'd sue!

Story of my life. They made my Charger into a 4 door. I’m just getting used to that.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

Florida plates. No explanation needed.

Today I got cut off by a guy driving stupidly with Delaware plates. Later as I passed him I saw the little Enterprise bar code on the windshield.

stickguy

must have been fun if he drove that beast all the way from Florida to Delaware.

tjc78

Time for what would you do?

So I took a new job about 5 weeks ago. Good company, but truth be told the CEO didn’t quite explain the day to day. I’m not entirely happy, and really feel like I’m not doing what I was hired to do either. On the flip side the money is good, WFH, and there should be room for advancement.

Today I get a phone call from the retailer that I had an offer pending with before Covid hit. He explained that they want to now offer me a Sr level position with 4 direct reports one of them being a PM I had at my last job. Salary is just shy of a 25% bump.

I feel bad because they just made a big announcement on LinkedIn and during a Town Hall. OTOH I feel it’s a much better opportunity and basically a carbon copy of what I did at the other retailer. It’s a tough call.

Thanks for listening.

ab348

I wouldn't worry about the announcements. If you feel that the other place is a better fit and the work is more in line with what you want to do, I would go for it. I think that them being unclear as to the type of work involved is ample justification. The salary bump would be the clincher.

cdnpinhead

ronsteve said:

But can you polish a TRD?

Toyota seems to think so, and if enough of their fans agree, it's a winner. I can't get past the obvious name.

carnaught

Wow, my son had almost the same job scenario you face. He left the job for the offer that came in, and in his case, he should have stayed at the first lace. I know his experience does not mean the same situation would happen with you. His came down to a staff at the place he left to join that were difficult to work with. My point is that there could be mitigating circumstance which could be present. Please investigate the dice and staff and at least see how the vibes are. My son gets along with 99% of people.

fintail

An old co-worker/friend has a 13 Rogue, and for some reason, adores the thing. Bought it nearly new as a demo, and has around 100K on it now. She never had a Nissan before, her prior cars were Saturns and Hyundais going back many years. She seems to be hinting the Rogue is starting to feel its age though, and maybe via my doomsday tales, she now fears the CVT. I've told her to make sure she services it by the book, as if the CVT goes, the rig might be a write-off (it has also been rear-ended twice and is not exactly a garage queen). Some people love unexpected things.

driver100 said:

I always wondered why someone would actually choose to buy a Nissan over the competition, which is generally more reliable, has higher resale value, and have better handling cars. Now I see!

stickguy

knowing all the people though is almost impossible to do.

Me, even though I would be nervous about doing it (too much confrontation!) I would make the move. If you are comfortable with the place (and you obviously wanted to be there previously) that part should be good. And the pay is hard to ignore. if what you are doing it not what you expected that is certainly a good justification. Does not look great jumping so soon, but it happens.

and remember, companies have zero loyalty. They could blow all kind of smoke your way, and as soon as something slips they will cut you loose before you know it is coming.

so if the other job is effectively a promotion and raise, and you are comfortable with the people and responsibilities (and of course in retail, that they will be around for a while!) it seems like a pretty obvious choice, but you are probably good either way.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Time for what would you do?

So I took a new job about 5 weeks ago. Good company, but truth be told the CEO didn’t quite explain the day to day. I’m not entirely happy, and really feel like I’m not doing what I was hired to do either. On the flip side the money is good, WFH, and there should be room for advancement.

Today I get a phone call from the retailer that I had an offer pending with before Covid hit. He explained that they want to now offer me a Sr level position with 4 direct reports one of them being a PM I had at my last job. Salary is just shy of a 25% bump.

I feel bad because they just made a big announcement on LinkedIn and during a Town Hall. OTOH I feel it’s a much better opportunity and basically a carbon copy of what I did at the other retailer. It’s a tough call.

Thanks for listening.

Can you talk to your current employer to see if you can’t get the job tailored more to your liking? Maybe they’ll accommodate you. If not I don’t see you own them much loyalty after 5 weeks. Sometimes things don’t work out.

Are you confident in the longevity of the other company so you don’t jump ship just to find yourself out of work again?

You’re right, it’s a tough call.

Funny how after suffering the anxiety of a layoff you can get deluged with offers. The week I was called back to work I got three job offers. Fortunately for me, it was an easy choice, if I hadn’t been called back to my original job I would just stay retired.

imidazol97

The tires will be flat spotted on one side from sitting from 03/2020 till 10/2021 when you return. The car needs to have the tires driven to warm them and flex the cords. Otherwise put blocks under each corner of the car with the tires lifted off the floor?

I assume the gasoline has Stabil in it?

28firefighter

@tjc78 do what is best for you. The company will have no qualms about sticking it to you with no notice. Not to mention the daily isn’t what you expected (and you’d be within rights to say so).

driver100

imidazol97 said:

The tires will be flat spotted on one side from sitting from 03/2020 till 10/2021 when you return. The car needs to have the tires driven to warm them and flex the cords. Otherwise put blocks under each corner of the car with the tires lifted off the floor?

I assume the gasoline has Stabil in it?

It has STABIL, 2 extra pounds of air in the tires, a trickle charger, and anti-mouse stuff under the hood. Blocks would have been good considering the time...but, can't do it from 1500 miles away. Have to hope for the advice.

driver100

tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here. All the advice given has been wise. Briefly, I would only sum up, you don't sound too thrilled where you are, you do like the sounds of the other offer......it is a big gamble/risk, but, the new opportunity has more potential and there is a better possibility you will like that job more. If you stay, and are unhappy, you will regret it forever.
Don't worry about announcements or the short time. It is a compliment they took you but a bigger compliment the other company wants you and their offer sounds more inline with your skills and wants.
Only you can really decide, but, I hope you go for it!

tjc78

Thanks everyone! I love how we can talk about anything here. All very valid points and very much how I am feeling,. It also mirrors my friends and family's responses. I want to leave on good terms and I think that the CEO that hired me will certainly understand my position.

The retailer I'm going to is doing well in the midst of Covid and while they were hurting a little before seem to be much better now. The project I'll be working has been yielding huge sales gains and their leadership wants the chain done as soon as possible which will take awhile since they have nearly 1000 locations.

I've read the job description, and already know one of the people who will be working for me. I think all I need to do is see the offer letter and go from there.

My wife is 100% on board and can tell I'm not happy. This is so different for me. I spent just shy of 20 years with one company and now I'm job hopping.

tjc78

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

AMG sounds better than T_RD.
Mercedes has an AMG too:
2021 AMG E63

Love that car! Would prefer non-black wheels, but otherwise stunning!

tjc78

Can you talk to your current employer to see if you can’t get the job tailored more to your liking?

Probably not. I'm used to managing several retail projects at once using skilled PMs and good crews that work for the retailer or vetted contractors.

This job is for a third party that does merchandising work with lower paid hourly employees to hit a margin. I could write a book with the stories over just the five weeks. I've fired close to 40 people over 9 retail locations for falling asleep on the job, arguments, drugs ... you name it. I've got 18 team leads and over 125 total team members. My phone rings non-stop with "issues" and I'm actually still as we speak tracking down the last of my night crews to make sure they all showed up.

It is a unique job and I was actually told today "I'm crushing it" but it isn't how I want to make a living. I was told it was very much like what I did at my previous job just for their clients. No not at all.

Michaell

companies have zero loyalty.

This. So much this.

I think the millennials have it right. Job hop often.

stickguy

Sounds like you already know the answer. I have passed on some things in my area because it would mean getting involved in the day to day management of centers, and I am way too old and crotchety to deal with that these days!

stickguy

Michaell said:

companies have zero loyalty.

This. So much this.

I think the millennials have it right. Job hop often.

a lot easier to do that (or do multiple jobs and gig work) if there was universal health care.

28firefighter

There is balance. Jumping year to year to maximize comp I find obnoxious. But I’ve taken the stance of reevaluating every 2-3 years to make sure I am doing work I find meaningful, that is making an impact for my company, and that I am aligned with what the overall direction of the business is.

Again, if a company is willing to boot me with no notice or loyalty (and they all would), then I owe it to myself to make sure I’m happy.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.

I'll take that bet.

oldfarmer50

“ The retailer I'm going to is doing well in the midst of Covid and while they were hurting a little before seem to be much better now. The project I'll be working has been yielding huge sales gains and their leadership wants the chain done as soon as possible which will take awhile since they have nearly 1000 locations.”

Don’t tell us you’re going to work for Hoovie.🥳🤩



Is he the guy you already know?

graphicguy

@tjc78 ....I think at the end of your career, nobody will say “it’s too bad he took job(s) that paid him more and utilized his skills better and made him happier”.

No brainer...take the job with the pay bump. The only person/people who won’t understand is the company who you’re with now. They’ll get over it and you shouldn’t care what they think.

driver100

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

AMG sounds better than T_RD.
Mercedes has an AMG too:
2021 AMG E63

Love that car! Would prefer non-black wheels, but otherwise stunning!

I agree....about the car and the wheels...and if someone asks you what you drive you can say a Mercedes AMG, instead of an Avalon TRD.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.

I'll take that bet.

I think I have been let go from about 8 companies.....3 were not my control (downsizing), 2 firings, and 2 or 3 were me leaving.

ab348

stickguy said:

a lot easier to do that (or do multiple jobs and gig work) if there was universal health care.

Well, if your definition of that is what it's like in Canada then it is only a partial benefit. Employers here still offer health benefit packages to cover what the govt plan fails to do - things like drug plans, dental and vision benefits, upgrades to hospitalization and a host of other things. Catastrophic coverage is really the main govt benefit.

qbrozen

Like my car list, my job list is VERY long. I’ve had to write them all down to keep track.

In relation to the current predicament, I went through a very similar situation. The job I was at for just 2 mos never made it to my resume, though. I figured it is easier to explain a 2-mo gap than a 2-mo job.

kyfdx

@tjc78

Expect your current employer to offer a raise to match the new one... making your decision more difficult.

stickguy

It shouldn’t. That’s usually a big mistake, taking the money to stay in a job you weren’t happy with. Employer often holds it against you too. If you made the decision to leave for reasons not purely salary, just go. They obviously didn’t think you were worth the pay before, so likely don’t when they are paying it to you later.

tjc78

@kyfdx
That happened to my wife. They kept asking what amount of money could make her stay. She explained it was more than the money. It worked out for the best since she is with an awesome company and the other is out of business.

I won’t stay even for a match in pay. Other than the short time of employment I don’t see a downside here. As I started my day at 6:30 something just doesn’t feel right and you have to be happy with what you are doing.

@qbrozen
I don’t think this will ever go on my resume either. I had a pretty large gap when my past employer went under and Covid hit, so it will just be a little bigger now.

graphicguy

stickguy said:

It shouldn’t. That’s usually a big mistake, taking the money to stay in a job you weren’t happy with. Employer often holds it against you too. If you made the decision to leave for reasons not purely salary, just go. They obviously didn’t think you were worth the pay before, so likely don’t when they are paying it to you later.

Agree. I have done that before, only to constantly wonder why the employer undervalued me to begin with. As I look back on my career, I never got enough of a salary bump from my old to match the jobs to warrant me not moving to another company.

My boss now is just a mean, tyrannical SOB. I'd quit him in a New York minute given the chance.

28firefighter

There are some of my generation who will go out and interview for jobs and get offers, simply to leverage them for a raise. I understand why, but I hate that.

When I start looking, I’m already committed to leaving for the next thing that is a fit. And, I’ve been offered the increased comp and title to try and stop me. Like several have said, it isn’t about money at that point. And the relationship with your leaders will never be the same at the original job if you take it - they’ll know your “loyalty” can be bought.