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jmonroe1

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

abacomike

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

ronsteve

stickguy said:

most likely, what the service adviser saw was a chance to pad his commission.

but, in general, I am a proponent of changing the transmission fluid more often than required (which for many cars now, is never). A mindset I guess you learn having multiple Honda V6 ATs at the same time!

This has been a tricky one to wrap my brain around, having gone from one Honda V6 to the lifetime fluid in a FWD Volvo and now back to a Honda V6. Guess I probably shouldn't try to fudge going a 4th oil change before the next trans/diff/transfer.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

If I had a Benz I could get myself accustomed to being worthy. It’s the snobby part I’d have problems with.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

I had two Hyundais in the last 5 years. Both excellent cars, and well made. Would have no qualms buying another one (and I was leaning toward the Santa Fe over the RDX this year, but, it was the wife's car).

We have had two Hyundai's, a 2000 Elantra station wagon which went nearly 200K miles with little issues and the current 2011 Sonata. With the exception of the engine giving up the ghost the Sonata has been very reliable.

Anyways the Sonata and the Sebring are the best cars to have, they both run and they are both paid off.

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

Well the Hyundai would be cheaper to buy and to maintain over the Benz so you would have that going for you.

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Or is the Benz worthy of jmonroe?

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Or is the Benz worthy of jmonroe?

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

abacomike

I saw a TV ad for SafeLite auto glass where they state:

"...we'll come to you - just leave your keys on the dash..."

Who in their right mind would leave their car keys on the dashboard of an unlocked car? Perhaps there is some subliminal meaning to that statement that I haven't decoded yet!🤪😜🤓

fintail

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. They are so common anymore, especially in relatively affluent areas, that anyone buying one to appear special might be disappointed when everyone ignores it. I think one needs to spend 6 figures to get real snob appeal anymore (or buy a cool vintage model for a fraction of the price but with 50x the style).

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

venture

abacomike said:

I saw a TV ad for SafeLite auto glass where they state:

"...we'll come to you - just leave your keys on the dash..."

Who in their right mind would leave their car keys on the dashboard of an unlocked car? Perhaps there is some subliminal meaning to that statement that I haven't decoded yet!🤪😜🤓

Maybe someone with noisy wipers and good insurance.

imidazol97

The new status symbol: wipers that chatter.

imidazol97

abacomike said:

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Or is the Benz worthy of jmonroe?

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

If there were an MB store on this side of town or an Acura store, I likely would own somethng different.
I can have my choice. But the stores for some makes on this side really turned me off.

imidazol97

Couple weeks back went into Kroger store. And an older, hard looking lady was yelling at a taller lady in her 30s. Just kept yelling the younger lady didn't argue with her; she'd just respond in a normal voice. I thought about calling the store office to see if someone wanted to call the police or a manager. This went on during my whole 10-15 minute shopping. They were just standing in an aisle with the older lady yelling, "You don't talk to me anymore" was one of the things I could understand.

Later the younger one was going to different aisles doing her shopping while this loud person was yelling and talking loudly.

Yesterday I went up a one way parking lot aisle at Walmart in my car and a woman was backing out of a parking space about 5 spaces from the store end. But she twisted her car so she could go the wrong way toward the road end of the lot. She had to go back and forth a couple of times to get turned around. She was facing me and expected me to turn around or something.

I just sat there and pointed that she was going the wrong way. A customer was at his car beside me, so I had witnesses if she went postal. She could have moved sideways into the space she'd vacated and the empty space adjacent to it, but apparently she felt entitled to make everyone else adjust to her thinking. Common problem. I just sat since I wasn't going to back up. Finally she backed up to the store end where she should have gone in the first place. I had asked the man next to me if he thought she was drunk or incapacitated and should one of call the city police.

At least she didn't have an umbrella.

ab348

snakeweasel said:

We have had two Hyundai's, a 2000 Elantra station wagon which went nearly 200K miles with little issues and the current 2011 Sonata. With the exception of the engine giving up the ghost the Sonata has been very reliable.

Uhhh, that's a pretty big exception.

stickguy

manufacturing defect!

benjaminh

graphicguy said:

We all have our different “preferred” brands of cars. No secret I love Acuras. But, I’ve dabbled with Audis, Cadillacs, Chevies, Fords, in addition to the Kia. I will say this, comparing fit and finish, Kia is up there with the best of them. In some ways, their engineering is better than those other....

I like that Kia hired some BMW designers and said, more or less, design your dream car—which turned into the Stinger. The styling of the Stinger seems better to me than today's BMWs. And the Stinger's hatchback gives it a practical functionality too.

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

I saw a TV ad for SafeLite auto glass where they state:

"...we'll come to you - just leave your keys on the dash..."

Who in their right mind would leave their car keys on the dashboard of an unlocked car? Perhaps there is some subliminal meaning to that statement that I haven't decoded yet!🤪😜🤓

Maybe if it's Seinfeld's 5 series BMW.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

We have had two Hyundai's, a 2000 Elantra station wagon which went nearly 200K miles with little issues and the current 2011 Sonata. With the exception of the engine giving up the ghost the Sonata has been very reliable.

Uhhh, that's a pretty big exception.

yes but I got a new engine at no cost as it was replaced under warranty. Not to mention before it did go gave us almost 100k flawless miles.

driver100

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

Bingo! That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Max performance without coming apart if I sneak out for a drive on a 30 degree day.

One other thing, have you noticed any whine from your A/S 3+ as they age? That’s something I’m trying to get away from.

So far I haven't put enough miles on either set; sorry.

roadburner

When my son drove his 2002 to high school it got more attention than any of the newer cars in the student lot.

qbrozen

Somehow, that parking video drove me right down the rabbit hole and I wound up getting stuck on this whole Wisconsin shooting thing from last week. Ugh, that poor kid. This country is a scary mess.

fintail

Here in tech money/rich transplant/sketchy EB-5 land, I see late model Ferraris, Lambos etc every day, not to mention every variety of upper range German mass market lux cars. Someone buying a C or 3er etc to pose will be disappointed. Buy it because you like it, because nobody else cares. I am sure that's why jmonroe bought his Genny (because he liked it - posing in a Genny or an A6 or a GS or an E or a 5er etc is silly, but they are still nice to drive).

I suspect I get as much (and probably more positive) attention in the fintail than one might get in a Ferrari.

driver100 said:

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

That's because you're looking at the wrong cars, you should be driving one of these:

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

Couple weeks back went into Kroger store. And an older, hard looking lady was yelling at a taller lady in her 30s. Just kept yelling the younger lady didn't argue with her; she'd just respond in a normal voice. I thought about calling the store office to see if someone wanted to call the police or a manager. This went on during my whole 10-15 minute shopping. They were just standing in an aisle with the older lady yelling, "You don't talk to me anymore" was one of the things I could understand.

Later the younger one was going to different aisles doing her shopping while this loud person was yelling and talking loudly.

Yesterday I went up a one way parking lot aisle at Walmart in my car and a woman was backing out of a parking space about 5 spaces from the store end. But she twisted her car so she could go the wrong way toward the road end of the lot. She had to go back and forth a couple of times to get turned around. She was facing me and expected me to turn around or something.

I just sat there and pointed that she was going the wrong way. A customer was at his car beside me, so I had witnesses if she went postal. She could have moved sideways into the space she'd vacated and the empty space adjacent to it, but apparently she felt entitled to make everyone else adjust to her thinking. Common problem. I just sat since I wasn't going to back up. Finally she backed up to the store end where she should have gone in the first place. I had asked the man next to me if he thought she was drunk or incapacitated and should one of call the city police.

At least she didn't have an umbrella.

But did she have a Benz?

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

When my son drove his 2002 to high school it got more attention than any of the newer cars in the student lot.

Believe it or not I get as many compliments on the Sebring as I do on the Mustang. Maybe as cars get old they attract attention because there are fewer of them around.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

Couple weeks back went into Kroger store. And an older, hard looking lady was yelling at a taller lady in her 30s. Just kept yelling the younger lady didn't argue with her; she'd just respond in a normal voice. I thought about calling the store office to see if someone wanted to call the police or a manager. This went on during my whole 10-15 minute shopping. They were just standing in an aisle with the older lady yelling, "You don't talk to me anymore" was one of the things I could understand.

Later the younger one was going to different aisles doing her shopping while this loud person was yelling and talking loudly.

Yesterday I went up a one way parking lot aisle at Walmart in my car and a woman was backing out of a parking space about 5 spaces from the store end. But she twisted her car so she could go the wrong way toward the road end of the lot. She had to go back and forth a couple of times to get turned around. She was facing me and expected me to turn around or something.

I just sat there and pointed that she was going the wrong way. A customer was at his car beside me, so I had witnesses if she went postal. She could have moved sideways into the space she'd vacated and the empty space adjacent to it, but apparently she felt entitled to make everyone else adjust to her thinking. Common problem. I just sat since I wasn't going to back up. Finally she backed up to the store end where she should have gone in the first place. I had asked the man next to me if he thought she was drunk or incapacitated and should one of call the city police.

At least she didn't have an umbrella.

But did she have a Benz?

Good point, the Benz should have the right of way!

qbrozen

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

That's because you're looking at the wrong cars, you should be driving one of these:

That’s pretty awesome. Where did you find it?

ab348

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

driver100

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

All good points worth considering....but, will probably chance it. We won't go to Florida in November this season, but may go in Feb, Mar, April if the covid problem gets resolved....vaccine, etc.
The C 250 has STABIL in the gas, tires are inflated 2 pounds over, a trickle charger is running to the battery, there is anti-mouse material under the hood. Tires are just one year old. Does oil last for 2 years if not used?
Hard to sell from up here too. I think the plan is to do nothing for now.......if it is there for almost 2 years I am sure the tires will have flat spots for awhile. It is in a garage.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

All good points worth considering....but, will probably chance it. We won't go to Florida in November this season, but may go in Feb, Mar, April if the covid problem gets resolved....vaccine, etc.
The C 250 has STABIL in the gas, tires are inflated 2 pounds over, a trickle charger is running to the battery, there is anti-mouse material under the hood. Tires are just one year old. Does oil last for 2 years if not used?
Hard to sell from up here too. I think the plan is to do nothing for now.......if it is there for almost 2 years I am sure the tires will have flat spots for awhile. It is in a garage.

IIRC STABIL states that it will keep gas good for 2 years, but I think that is pushing it. If I were you if you go back in a year I would drive that baby all over the place to get rid of that old gas and put in some nice fresh dino squeezins.

Oil typically has a 4 to 5 year shelf life and may vary from that depending on differing variables so two years isn't to long. But the question remains how long was it between the oil being made and getting in your car. You should be OK on the oil but I would change it quickly if it sits for two years.

graphicguy

Across the street and about 200 yards south of my Acura dealer are two dealerships not affiliated with the Acura dealer....a Toyota and Honda store, both part of the same dealer group. Got a call from a sales manager at the Toyota store around 4:00 p.m. yesterday afternoon telling me he got my name from one of the Acura sales people he hangs with for beers after work. He wanted to know if I was working exclusively for the 2 Acura stores (one in Dayton, one in Cincinnati). Told him I was not.

He asked if I could do a Toyota swap between his dealership, and one north of the city in 90 minutes. On a good day, not in rush hour traffic, probably a good bet I could. But, there's always a bottle neck on I 71 and the dealership I'd be transporting to is in a very busy area with a large auto mall. Add in rush hour, and it would be a challenge. I couldn't guarantee him I could. But, I sure would like to do transports for both Toyota and Honda stores.

I told him if I couldn't do it, there would be no charge for the transport. If I did do it, he had to give me a shot at his dealer trade transports.

Won't keep you in suspense. But, I made it with a few minutes to spare. Took a little bit of a round about way to get there and back to avoid traffic, but I did it. Swapped a 2021 Avalon Limited (didn't even know those were out yet) for a 2020 Avalon TRD.

So, looks like I'm expanding my little fledgling business.

TRD? Grill was not as bad as I thought it would be. Yes, it's aggressive. But, I liked the Acura "beaked" TLs.

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

I have driven Avalons before. I've driven Lexi before (GS350 would probably be similar to the TRD). Still don't understand why anyone would buy a Lexus when they could save about $10K-$15K buying an Avalon (likely purchase prices after discounts).

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

As to my current ride, it hasn’t hit 14k miles yet so still feels new. Today I just ordered a new set of tires for it because the OEM are past the 5 year replacement deadline. Plenty of tread left but getting too old.

There’s really nothing on a new (real) Mustang that makes it a must have. I suppose I could get one with the magnetic shocks or the performance pack but that would drive the cost beyond my limits. As to power, mine puts out as much as a 2020 (460hp) thanks to some modest mods. The only way to go beyond that is to spend a ton more money on something like a GT 350.

Bottom line is I don’t drive it often enough to replace it. That’s the curse of trying to spread 12k miles of driving among 4 vehicles.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

All good points worth considering....but, will probably chance it. We won't go to Florida in November this season, but may go in Feb, Mar, April if the covid problem gets resolved....vaccine, etc.
The C 250 has STABIL in the gas, tires are inflated 2 pounds over, a trickle charger is running to the battery, there is anti-mouse material under the hood. Tires are just one year old. Does oil last for 2 years if not used?
Hard to sell from up here too. I think the plan is to do nothing for now.......if it is there for almost 2 years I am sure the tires will have flat spots for awhile. It is in a garage.

IIRC STABIL states that it will keep gas good for 2 years, but I think that is pushing it. If I were you if you go back in a year I would drive that baby all over the place to get rid of that old gas and put in some nice fresh dino squeezins.

Oil typically has a 4 to 5 year shelf life and may vary from that depending on differing variables so two years isn't to long. But the question remains how long was it between the oil being made and getting in your car. You should be OK on the oil but I would change it quickly if it sits for two years.

The STABIL was added last March, so should be good until next November when we will be able to go back hopefully - if not sooner. Oil gets changed yearly and was done last November, but has only gone 6000 miles. I think it can sit up to two years and probably longer without an oil change. The neighbors have the keys, so I suppose if it goes too long I could have one of those mechanics that come to the house change the oil. All kinds of things are possible...but, I am OK risking letting it sit for up to 2 years.

driver100

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

It's got the horse on the front of it! Looks like The Ford Marketing Department threw you under the bus - I'd sue!

Michaell

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

Nice little business you got going GG. What I like is it is a win, win, win all around, for 2 dealers, for you, and for the customers buying these cars. What concerns me is the name of that Avalon.......an Avalon TRD.....in short hand that doesn't sound too good

TRD = Toyota Racing Development. Sort of like the AMG for Toyota.

And, I like the Avalon TRD.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

If you are not returning to Florida this winter then it might make sense to sell it now. Otherwise when you eventually do return it will have been laid up for 2 years. I don't know what kind of decommissioning you do but that might lead to some problems, and regardless it will be a 7 year-old car then.

I was thinking the same thing. All kidding aside he should find someone he trusts to take it out every few weeks. Gooey gas and dead batteries can’t be good for the car.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

All this talk about Hyundai’s might make me think about getting another one. Just when I thought I’d have to settle for a Benz. I don’t know if I should thank you guys or stop talking to yin’s.

jmonroe

The question still remains, "...are you worthy of a Benz?..."

Your comments above answers that question - you are most definitely not! 🤪😜🤓

From the treatment I once got from a Honda salesman I’m not even worthy of an Accord. I bow my head if I even drive by a Mercedes dealer.

That's because you're looking at the wrong cars, you should be driving one of these:

Does it come with a lawn mower attachment?

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

Across the street and about 200 yards south of my Acura dealer are two dealerships not affiliated with the Acura dealer....a Toyota and Honda store, both part of the same dealer group. Got a call from a sales manager at the Toyota store around 4:00 p.m. yesterday afternoon telling me he got my name from one of the Acura sales people he hangs with for beers after work. He wanted to know if I was working exclusively for the 2 Acura stores (one in Dayton, one in Cincinnati). Told him I was not.

He asked if I could do a Toyota swap between his dealership, and one north of the city in 90 minutes. On a good day, not in rush hour traffic, probably a good bet I could. But, there's always a bottle neck on I 71 and the dealership I'd be transporting to is in a very busy area with a large auto mall. Add in rush hour, and it would be a challenge. I couldn't guarantee him I could. But, I sure would like to do transports for both Toyota and Honda stores.

I told him if I couldn't do it, there would be no charge for the transport. If I did do it, he had to give me a shot at his dealer trade transports.

Won't keep you in suspense. But, I made it with a few minutes to spare. Took a little bit of a round about way to get there and back to avoid traffic, but I did it. Swapped a 2021 Avalon Limited (didn't even know those were out yet) for a 2020 Avalon TRD.

So, looks like I'm expanding my little fledgling business.

TRD? Grill was not as bad as I thought it would be. Yes, it's aggressive. But, I liked the Acura "beaked" TLs.

TRD Handled well for such a big car. Had all the options and safety tech. Comfortable. Lots of value in both the Limited and the TRD. Can't see "grandpa" wanting the TRD, though.

I have driven Avalons before. I've driven Lexi before (GS350 would probably be similar to the TRD). Still don't understand why anyone would buy a Lexus when they could save about $10K-$15K buying an Avalon (likely purchase prices after discounts).

Wow, that’s the way to wheel and deal!

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

The snobbery thing amuses me. All of the mass market premium cars are attainable for anyone with decent credit and a little cash flow - most lease easily. .

abacomike said:

Now that's a different question! Of course the Benz is worthy of jmonroe.

As for jmonroe's comment about snobbery, I agree that there are some people who buy a Benz because they're snobs. But there are many people who buy a Benz because they are well-engineered, styled aggressively, and possess windshield wipers that chatter and skip.🤪😜🤓

I couldn't feel the snobbery thing......I see about 5 Porsche Macons or Cayannes every day, and a lot of trucks cost more than my MB. The 2014 is only worth $10500 as a trade in....that can certainly deflate someone's ego pretty quickly.

As for Jmonroe....the word is out..........don't let him into the MB club.

If you want out of your Florida car why not just get a bid from Vroom? Seems to be the best market for used cars in decades.

I am happy with the Florida MB and it might not get any miles on it this year.....it has 34000 miles on it. My only reason for thinking of trading it was I saw a 2017 with more equipment...including rear camera and blind spot mirrors for $25000. I thought if I would get $14 or $15k for the 2014 it would be worth it to get a 3 year newer car, with 12000 miles on it. But, at $15000 difference it doesn't make sense to me.....and I could sell it privately but not that important to me to go through that.....hard to juggle the selling and the buying as well - can't be without a car there.....trade-in is my only real option.

How about you, ready to trade in the Mustang for a 2021 model?

THAT is not a Mustang!

It's got the horse on the front of it! Looks like The Ford Marketing Department threw you under the bus - I'd sue!

This also has a horse on the front of it, is this a Mustang?

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

... But she twisted her car so she could go the wrong way toward the road end of the lot. She had to go back and forth a couple of times to get turned around. She was facing me and expected me to turn around or something.

I just sat there and pointed that she was going the wrong way. A customer was at his car beside me, so I had witnesses if she went postal. She could have moved sideways into the space she'd vacated and the empty space .......

At least she didn't have an umbrella.

But did she have a Benz?

Errrr. Uhhhhh. She was in a Chevy. I guess I failed to mention that. But she seemed to feel entitled to drive any direction she pleased even though she wasn't in a Benz.

She didn't turn on her windshield wipers, so I could check for chatter. But she did have a handicapped parking mirror hanger, which it's illegal to have hanging while driving because it blocks your view.

imidazol97

@drive100

Do you have someone set up in FL with access to your MB and able to drive it occasionally? The tires need to be warmed up and driven rather than sitting for a full year and half before you turn next October?

roadburner

I can’t imagine who would want an Avalon TRD. The Camry TRD I can kind of understand- it’s aimed at the enthusiast with the deadly dull and practical spouse- the TRD badge lets the world know he hasn’t completely resigned himself to a dismal future filled with anodyne appliances.

benjaminh

graphicguy said:

....So, looks like I'm expanding my little fledgling business....

Congrats!++

suydam

Heard this exchange between neighbors this morning while dog walking.
“Did you get a new car?”
“Yes I did.”
“Is that a Nissan?”
“I don’t know. I just like the way it looks.”