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jmonroe1

28firefighter said:

I can't have grapefruit juice because I'm on a calcium channel blocker...looks tasty though!

It might even be tastier without the grapefruit juice.

jmonroe

bwia

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

• Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
  
• ABS And Driveline Traction Control
  
• Side Impact Beams
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
  
• Blind-Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (BCA) Blind Spot
  
• Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Keeping Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Departure Warning
  
• Parking Distance Warning Front And Rear Parking Sensors Remote Automatic Parking
  
• Tire Specific Low Tire Pressure Warning
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Front Airbags
  
• Airbag Occupancy Sensor
  
• Driver Knee Airbag and Rear Side-Impact Airbag
  
• Rear Child Safety Locks
  
• Outboard Front Lap And Shoulder Safety Belts -inc: Rear Center 3 Point, Height Adjusters and Pretensioners
  
• Curtain 1st, 2nd And 3rd Row Airbags
  
• Surround View Monitor Back-Up Camera
  
• Front Camera
  
• Left Side Camera
  
• Right Side Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYkr1vPucs

jmonroe1

venture said:

I just noticed that my Legacy will show you the percent of grade you are ascending/descending. It seems pretty worthless except for when you want to say, "I just went up a 5% grade."

Mrs. j’s ‘18 Subie doesn’t have that feature but then again living all its life in Southwest PA the light could have burned out before I had a chance to notice it. Consider yourself lucky.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:

@tjc78 Interesting note: If you take a statin for cholesterol, you are supposed to avoid grapefruit juice. 😥

That looks great.

I avoid grapefruit juice because it tastes terrible.

Sounds like you ruined your bourbon with it once.

jmonroe

driver100

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

Well it does have an extra airbag that might have made a difference:

ab348

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

Sadly, that is the level of "journalism" that one finds in most of the automotive press lately. The feature set is pretty much similar at that price point. The engineering of the structure is what really matters in an crash like that.

I have also read other comments that the intrusion into the passenger compartment was more than what one would expect. I also read comments from the peanut gallery on certain automotive sites that H/K vehicles tend to fold up much more easily in a crash than other brands in that class *cough*M-B, Audi*cough*. But who knows? It did seem to be an extreme case. Will be interesting if the final report from the authorities has details such as speed at impact.

explorerx4

One thing I thought was interesting is that the glass roof seemed to intact after the crash.
Haven't read if it has been determined if he was wearing a safety belt or not.

nyccarguy

ab348 said:

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

Sadly, that is the level of "journalism" that one finds in most of the automotive press lately. The feature set is pretty much similar at that price point. The engineering of the structure is what really matters in an crash like that.

I have also read other comments that the intrusion into the passenger compartment was more than what one would expect. I also read comments from the peanut gallery on certain automotive sites that H/K vehicles tend to fold up much more easily in a crash than other brands in that class *cough*M-B, Audi*cough*. But who knows? It did seem to be an extreme case. Will be interesting if the final report from the authorities has details such as speed at impact.

Maybe the IIHS & NHTSA will come up with a new test for automotive safety. The TIGER test. Where they will have to drive a car down the highway and off an embankment to see how well it holds up.

imidazol97

cdnpinhead said:

venture said:

There's not much flat here in the middle of Pennsylvania. The Appalachians sure isn't the Rockies, but there are some pretty nice hills here.

Fair point -- West Virginia has some pretty serious hills too.

There are beautiful hills in PA. They're just not as pretty if you're wanting to go across the lines
of the ridges rather than following parallel through the valleys to the lines of the ridges. The
Pennsylvania Turnpike was relatively new when my little high school sent us seniors on a trip to New
York City, Washington DC, and Hershey at the end of our 12 years.

Can't imagine the trip without
the turnpike. I recall eastern Ohio and going through the top of W Va with the twisting and turning
hairpin in the charter bus we had. Not like relatively flat Indiana farm country.

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:

@tjc78 Interesting note: If you take a statin for cholesterol, you are supposed to avoid grapefruit juice. 😥

That looks great.

I avoid grapefruit juice because it tastes terrible.

Mix it with enough booze and you won’t care.

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

Sadly, that is the level of "journalism" that one finds in most of the automotive press lately. The feature set is pretty much similar at that price point. The engineering of the structure is what really matters in an crash like that.

I have also read other comments that the intrusion into the passenger compartment was more than what one would expect. I also read comments from the peanut gallery on certain automotive sites that H/K vehicles tend to fold up much more easily in a crash than other brands in that class *cough*M-B, Audi*cough*. But who knows? It did seem to be an extreme case. Will be interesting if the final report from the authorities has details such as speed at impact.

Maybe the IIHS & NHTSA will come up with a new test for automotive safety. The TIGER test. Where they will have to drive a car down the highway and off an embankment to see how well it holds up.

Nobody can say Tiger didn’t give that Genny a real workout. Another thing that could have saved him is the paint job. From what I saw that color looks like the old man’s grey I have on my ‘15 Genny. Maybe that color is lathered on extra thick. Only extensive testing can prove that.

@explorerx4, that video said Tiger was wearing his seatbelt. That is a biggie.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

• Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
  
• ABS And Driveline Traction Control
  
• Side Impact Beams
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
  
• Blind-Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (BCA) Blind Spot
  
• Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Keeping Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Departure Warning
  
• Parking Distance Warning Front And Rear Parking Sensors Remote Automatic Parking
  
• Tire Specific Low Tire Pressure Warning
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Front Airbags
  
• Airbag Occupancy Sensor
  
• Driver Knee Airbag and Rear Side-Impact Airbag
  
• Rear Child Safety Locks
  
• Outboard Front Lap And Shoulder Safety Belts -inc: Rear Center 3 Point, Height Adjusters and Pretensioners
  
• Curtain 1st, 2nd And 3rd Row Airbags
  
• Surround View Monitor Back-Up Camera
  
• Front Camera
  
• Left Side Camera
  
• Right Side Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYkr1vPucs

How did all those cameras save his life? I’d credit all those airbags more than anything.

roadburner

ab348 said:

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

Sadly, that is the level of "journalism" that one finds in most of the automotive press lately. The feature set is pretty much similar at that price point. The engineering of the structure is what really matters in an crash like that.

I have also read other comments that the intrusion into the passenger compartment was more than what one would expect. I also read comments from the peanut gallery on certain automotive sites that H/K vehicles tend to fold up much more easily in a crash than other brands in that class *cough*M-B, Audi*cough*. But who knows? It did seem to be an extreme case. Will be interesting if the final report from the authorities has details such as speed at impact.

The police should have interrogated the EDR by now, so they will most likely know not only the speed but possibly the G-forces sustained in the impacts.

fintail

Yeah, I think most premium cars have all that - my wagon has all that. And side impact beams , wow, just like on a 71 Country Squire I bet it had seatbelts too.

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

omarman

Vodka allergies are rare but citrus allergy from grapefruit can kill you. And statins spike your hemoglobin a1c. Basically stick with Vodka to be safe.

Re: The TIGER test
Speed may or may not have been a contributing factor. But was there any evidence of a woman chasing him down the road with a golf club this time? Details matter.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

One thing I thought was interesting is that the glass roof seemed to intact after the crash.
Haven't read if it has been determined if he was wearing a safety belt or not.

When we visited the MB plant in Stuttgart they said the glass roof adds strength to the car....it is made with steel beams.

imidazol97

I have to feel sorry for Tiger. I can only imagine what his private hospital bed looks like. Doubt that he's home yet.

I roamed the orthopaedic hallways when I was in for surgery couple decades ago. I walked with my IV stand and monitor to build up strength. But those folks in the ortho ward looked miserable with their pain killers or lack of and their extremities being held up in the air by chains to frames overhead. They couldn't get out of bed and walk even to the bathroom.

I can only imagine what they're having to do to Tiger's leg to encourage return to normal circulation.

On the other hand if the driver of the Hyundai Genesis were John Q. Public, they would be charged with speeding, reckless operation, crossing the median, driving left of center, and possibly driving under disability or not being attentive to driving by using cell phone if that's the case.

Instead, he's getting no charges. Good thing it's not a DUI charge.

ab348

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

I have to feel sorry for Tiger. I can only imagine what his private hospital bed looks like. Doubt that he's home yet.

I roamed the orthopaedic hallways when I was in for surgery couple decades ago. I walked with my IV stand and monitor to build up strength. But those folks in the ortho ward looked miserable with their pain killers or lack of and their extremities being held up in the air by chains to frames overhead. I can only imagine what they're having to do to Tiger's leg to encourage return to normal circulation.

On the other hand if the driver of the Hyundai Genesis were John Q. Publlic, they would be charged with speeding, reckless operation, crossing the median, driving left of center, and possibly driving under disability or not being attentive to driving by using cell phone if that's the case.

Instead, he's getting no charges. Good thing it's not a DUI charge.

So what’s new? RHIP. Some things never change.

jmonroe

venture

I checked. It's pretty steep.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

I just noticed that my Legacy will show you the percent of grade you are ascending/descending. It seems pretty worthless except for when you want to say, "I just went up a 5% grade."

Mrs. j’s ‘18 Subie doesn’t have that feature but then again living all its life in Southwest PA the light could have burned out before I had a chance to notice it. Consider yourself lucky.

jmonroe

See the little arrows, one left of "Accel" and one right of "Angle"? If you push them other "stuff" comes up. You can scroll through menus to your hearts content. I don't remember if the 2018's had that though. I don't remember my 2018 having it.

[Deleted User]

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

That's just south of some of us, here's one of his neighbors...
https://www.recolorado.com/listing/285312957-151082055/360-e-happy-canyon-road-castle-rock-co-80108/

explorerx4

That guy has a better set of tools than Spicoli's old man.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

Nice place and I see it’s negotiable. Therefore, someone should be able to land that for 4.9 M easily. But I’d send @Michaell over there to verify my suspicion.

jmonroe

driver100

venture said:

I checked. It's pretty steep.

What happens when you press the button with the little kid swimming?

(*I know....no need to explain)

tjc78

explorerx4 said:

That guy has a better set of tools than Spicoli's old man.

That was funny!!!

tjc78

omarman said:

Vodka allergies are rare but citrus allergy from grapefruit can kill you. And statins spike your hemoglobin a1c. Basically stick with Vodka to be safe.

Re: The TIGER test
Speed may or may not have been a contributing factor. But was there any evidence of a woman chasing him down the road with a golf club this time? Details matter.

Man you guys are tough!! I post a happy picture of stay at home happy hour/amateur bar tending and now we are talking about grapefruit killing you. With as good as the drink was it would be a good way to go.

houdini1

explorerx4 said:

One thing I thought was interesting is that the glass roof seemed to intact after the crash.
Haven't read if it has been determined if he was wearing a safety belt or not.

I noticed that also. It was supposed to be a rollover type crash but the roof and sides showed little if any damage. Looked more like a front end collision with a tree. Maybe it went end over end? Seat belt, air bags, and no fire are what saved him.

ab348

dad23 said:

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

That's just south of some of us, here's one of his neighbors...
https://www.recolorado.com/listing/285312957-151082055/360-e-happy-canyon-road-castle-rock-co-80108/

That's quite nice. I enjoyed clicking through the links looking at some of the other properties for sale there. One has its own full-size basketball court and locker room on the lower level. Not something you see every day. One of the things I wasn't crazy about with several of them was how close the buildings were to stands of trees/forest. I'd be concerned about wildfires.

This modest little one has that problem, but nothing that couldn't be fixed in a day, and I quite like the interior.

https://www.recolorado.com/listing/280969086-151082055/307-roca-place-castle-rock-co-80108/

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

That guy has a better set of tools than Spicoli's old man.

That’s just rubbing it in. :@

jmonroe

driver100

tjc78 said:

omarman said:

Vodka allergies are rare but citrus allergy from grapefruit can kill you. And statins spike your hemoglobin a1c. Basically stick with Vodka to be safe.

Re: The TIGER test
Speed may or may not have been a contributing factor. But was there any evidence of a woman chasing him down the road with a golf club this time? Details matter.

Man you guys are tough!! I post a happy picture of stay at home happy hour/amateur bar tending and now we are talking about grapefruit killing you.

We hate to see someone enjoying himself :@

houdini1

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

Nice spread, I'm interested !! Anyone know where I can get a nothing down 500 year interest free mortgage?

snakeweasel

venture said:

cdnpinhead said:

venture said:

I said I just noticed it. I also said it is worthless..

It may be worthless to those of you who live in flat country, which I'd estimate at 95% of the participants on here, but if actual elevation change is part of your daily drive. . .

Much like yapping about high speed runs. Nevada, Alberta and New Mexico, among other places, have provided me the opportunity to cruise at well over 100 mph for extended periods.

You people need to go west to enjoy your vehicles.

I guess there must be some value to it. I never saw it before. I guess I should display it when going up or down steep hills. I assume if you start up and see it is too steep you stop and back down?? I wonder what is too steep.

Early this week, before I discovered this thing, I started up a steep, snow covered, hill - just to see if I could make it. The car stopped about half way up, but then crawled the rest of the way up.

I think I'll go back to that hill and see how steep it really is.

There's not much flat here in the middle of Pennsylvania. The Appalachians sure isn't the Rockies, but there are some pretty nice hills here.

It's mostly flat here but there are some small pockets of land that are rough and ready with lots of twists and hills. But those are few and small and a lot are protected or private land. If you don't mind a long drive the far northwest corner of the state and the southernmost quarter of the state tend to get hilly with some good roads. But the southern end of the state is mostly a national forest so not a lot of opportunity to have that kind of fun there.

driver100

Living out in the middle of nowhere might not be as great as it sounds. Due to circumstances we lived on 100 acres about 20 minutes from town and civilization. It sounds ideal, and I get that it suits some people....but it wasn't for me. Every trip added a 20 minute drive on a busy highway, in each direction. I could do the drive to get to work and home, and then do it again later to go out for the evening. I didn't like having no one around me, felt too isolated. In town, I don't have a need to talk to my neighbors, but I like having civilization around me.

Also hard to go for a walk in the country...at least in town there are sidewalks, roads, lights.

I also like restaurants, grocery stores, doctors offices, dentists etc are 5 minutes away....not 40 minutes round trip.
I know lots of people love living in the country...but it might not be as ideal as it sounds.

snakeweasel

bwia said:

The automotive press is crediting the safety features in the GV80 as saving Tiger Woods' life. Does that mean he would be doomed in an equally new but different brand SUV? Here is a list of safety features in the $65,050 GV80. Not wanting to disparage the Genesis GV80 but its safety features seem typical for a car in that price point.

• Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
  
• ABS And Driveline Traction Control
  
• Side Impact Beams
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
  
• Blind-Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (BCA) Blind Spot
  
• Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Keeping Assist
  
• Lane Keep Assist (LKA) Lane Departure Warning
  
• Parking Distance Warning Front And Rear Parking Sensors Remote Automatic Parking
  
• Tire Specific Low Tire Pressure Warning
  
• Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Front Airbags
  
• Airbag Occupancy Sensor
  
• Driver Knee Airbag and Rear Side-Impact Airbag
  
• Rear Child Safety Locks
  
• Outboard Front Lap And Shoulder Safety Belts -inc: Rear Center 3 Point, Height Adjusters and Pretensioners
  
• Curtain 1st, 2nd And 3rd Row Airbags
  
• Surround View Monitor Back-Up Camera
  
• Front Camera
  
• Left Side Camera
  
• Right Side Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZYkr1vPucs

I would say that most current models of SUV's could have kept Woods from having a tee time with God so crediting a specific make and model for saving his life is a bit over the top. It would be better stating that certain safety features found in most cars/SUV's aided in saving his life.

imidazol97

I wonder if sales of the GV80 will go up because of this.

Or will dealers start putting ADM on the GV80 to take advantage of those seeking
what they think is a more secure vehicle.

ab348

houdini1 said:

explorerx4 said:

One thing I thought was interesting is that the glass roof seemed to intact after the crash.
Haven't read if it has been determined if he was wearing a safety belt or not.

I noticed that also. It was supposed to be a rollover type crash but the roof and sides showed little if any damage. Looked more like a front end collision with a tree. Maybe it went end over end? Seat belt, air bags, and no fire are what saved him.

On the day of the accident I was watching the wall-to-wall coverage on KTLA in L.A. for a while and they had a former cop who was a crash investigator on for a long time. One of the things he said was that from the lack of damage to the body sides and roof that it wasn't a rollover (sideways) but a flip end over end. It looked as though he sent the front end into a earthen bank which caused most of the damage and it then went end over end before finishing on its right side. The guy noted the largish tree trunk snapped off in front and said that likely happened mid-crash given how the front end was uniformly crushed across the width of the car.

jmonroe1

houdini1 said:

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

Nice spread, I'm interested !! Anyone know where I can get a nothing down 500 year interest free mortgage?

Nope. My Son and I can’t even find a starter joint to flip with those requirements. What have you been drinking lately? Straight grapefruit juice or what.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

Living out in the middle of nowhere might not be as great as it sounds. Due to circumstances we lived on 100 acres about 20 minutes from town and civilization. It sounds ideal, and I get that it suits some people....but it wasn't for me. Every trip added a 20 minute drive on a busy highway, in each direction. I could do the drive to get to work and home, and then do it again later to go out for the evening. I didn't like having no one around me, felt too isolated. In town, I don't have a need to talk to my neighbors, but I like having civilization around me.

Also hard to go for a walk in the country...at least in town there are sidewalks, roads, lights.

I also like restaurants, grocery stores, doctors offices, dentists etc are 5 minutes away....not 40 minutes round trip.
I know lots of people love living in the country...but it might not be as ideal as it sounds.

Most of the people I know who lived out in the middle of nowhere ended up moving back into a nearby town for the exact same reasons. However as far as I am concerned those towns are out in the middle of nowhere to begin with but that's just me. One guy I know is still 30 miles from the nearest wally world even though he lives in town.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

I bet you could talk them down to $41/2 million, no trouble.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

I bet you could talk them down to $41/2 million, no trouble.

That ain’t no hooptie ya know.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead

venture said:

I checked. It's pretty steep.

Sure is -- 13 degrees is a little over 23%, which is how gradients are normally reported. The Interstate system tries to keep grades at 6% or less which is a little under.3.5 degrees. That said, you probably have the option of looking at tilt sideways using the same software, and that is traditionally reported in degrees.

houdini1

jmonroe1 said:

houdini1 said:

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

Nice spread, I'm interested !! Anyone know where I can get a nothing down 500 year interest free mortgage?

Nope. My Son and I can’t even find a starter joint to flip with those requirements. What have you been drinking lately? Straight grapefruit juice or what.

jmonroe

Any interest in starting a go fund me page on my behalf?

fintail

I suspect most will never hear about it unless Hyundai markets it. It's also above the price point of most consumers.

imidazol97 said:

I wonder if sales of the GV80 will go up because of this.

Or will dealers start putting ADM on the GV80 to take advantage of those seeking
what they think is a more secure vehicle.

fintail

Some of the house interior would be right at home here , but what a garage. Nice to see a shop doing prewar cars too, has to be getting hard to find.

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

fintail

The MB "Hold" function is also useful on hills and flat ground alike. Give the brake a little more of a tap once you are stopped, and the brakes will remain engaged until you depress the throttle, without a foot on the brake. Handy on hills and when trying to get an edge coming off a light .

cdnpinhead said:

venture said:

I said I just noticed it. I also said it is worthless..

It may be worthless to those of you who live in flat country, which I'd estimate at 95% of the participants on here, but if actual elevation change is part of your daily drive. . .

Much like yapping about high speed runs. Nevada, Alberta and New Mexico, among other places, have provided me the opportunity to cruise at well over 100 mph for extended periods.

You people need to go west to enjoy your vehicles.

laurasdada

Friday, Costco PUG $2.62/gal. Up .02 from the prior Friday.
Grapefruit juice, I'm with GG. Just say no.

stickguy

my Acura has a brake hold feature. If you turn the switch on, once you come to a complete stop the brakes apply and you can take your foot off. they release as soon as you tap the gas.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

dad23 said:

ab348 said:

This is way beyond my pay grade, but what a beautiful spot. Click through the pictures to see the entirety.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/real-estate/unspecified/unspecified/2467526.html

That's just south of some of us, here's one of his neighbors...
https://www.recolorado.com/listing/285312957-151082055/360-e-happy-canyon-road-castle-rock-co-80108/

That's quite nice. I enjoyed clicking through the links looking at some of the other properties for sale there. One has its own full-size basketball court and locker room on the lower level. Not something you see every day. One of the things I wasn't crazy about with several of them was how close the buildings were to stands of trees/forest. I'd be concerned about wildfires.

This modest little one has that problem, but nothing that couldn't be fixed in a day, and I quite like the interior.

https://www.recolorado.com/listing/280969086-151082055/307-roca-place-castle-rock-co-80108/

LOL a $4 million fixer-upper. Are you planning on buying a vacation home there?

venture

cdnpinhead said:

venture said:

I checked. It's pretty steep.

Sure is -- 13 degrees is a little over 23%, which is how gradients are normally reported. The Interstate system tries to keep grades at 6% or less which is a little under.3.5 degrees. That said, you probably have the option of looking at tilt sideways using the same software, and that is traditionally reported in degrees.

I'll have to check.