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jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

Ford’s new trucks have hands free self drive. Pretty cool system with cameras that force you to look at the road.

Our Volvo requires hands on the steering wheel.

No word on the S60… sitting at the dealer. I called to make sure they at least park it inside in case we get storms!

tjc78 said:

Ford’s new trucks have hands free self drive. Pretty cool system with cameras that force you to look at the road.

Our Volvo requires hands on the steering wheel.

No word on the S60… sitting at the dealer. I called to make sure they at least park it inside in case we get storms!

That’s the wise thing to do because the tow truck guy will probably just get a signature for dropping it off somewhere in the dealers lot and that’s the end of his responsibility.

jmonroe

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

abacomike said:

My G90 has Continental Contiprocontact all season tires (P245/45 R19 98W front - P275/40 R19 98W rear). They are not run flats - they are premium grand touring tires. Tire Rack sell a set of 4 for close to $1300 and includes free road hazard for 2 years.

I don’t expect them to last very long but when I replace them, I expect to put Michelins on.

Do you have a spare? I was surprised when a friend told me his Volvo V60 doesn't have a spare, his tires aren't RFTs, and there isn't a donut tire. If he gets a flat I guess he is supposed to call AAA. Does this even make sense?

The BMW doesn't have run flats nor a spare so I have a tire repair kit and a small air pump just in case.

A tire repair kit when you get a flat on I-75 or somewhere!

It helps when your in the middle of nowhere and it is easily repairable, yes. Better than waiting for three hours for roadside assistance.

Not so good if it is the sidewall and the repair kit ain't going to help. Seriously, I'd rather have RFTs than a repair kit.

Yeah, but how often is it in the sidewall?

When I go around on an on ramp it looks like a lot of cars have hit their sidewall...there are lots of marks left. How often is that repair kit going to actually be of use? Tires get damaged on the sides, and often the damage on the tire is too great to fix anyway. Try having a flat tire, that can't be easily repaired, with no spare, no RFT.....on a Thanksgiving or Christmas Day evening. At least with a spare or a RFT you might make it to somewhere!

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Ford’s new trucks have hands free self drive. Pretty cool system with cameras that force you to look at the road.

Our Volvo requires hands on the steering wheel.

No word on the S60… sitting at the dealer. I called to make sure they at least park it inside in case we get storms!

I remember driving some Fusions that had lane management systems that were virtually self-drive. You could take your hands off the wheel and the car would hold position between the pavement lines. After about 30 seconds though, it would chide you to put your hands back on the wheel.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

@driver100 said:

Forgetting to record an oil change is a much bigger...more expensive mistake.

But, hopefully you learned something from it!

Very old story. If you didn’t have that as a comeback you’d be lost and you even screwed that up. So details are ALWAYS important.

jmonroe

Disagree. It is important to have detail people do the detail work...it is people with the big vision....the Elon Musk's, the Jeff Bezos, the Driver100s who make things happen....so the detail people can fulfil the dream.

Since you aren’t a Musk or a Bezos you’ll have to do your own thinking and that includes grade school arithmetic and a few other similar high level tasks.

jmonroe

You're right again, according to that book Musk got investors to buy the technology. I started with $0 (that is Zero Dollars) and made a company that did $4 million a year in sales. Bezos similar...they had to use other people's money to get started.

bwia

ab348 said:

I'm only going from that single picture so I might be deceived, but I don't like the design of the new S-Class dashboard.

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7C4Isc3atA

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

@driver100 said:

Forgetting to record an oil change is a much bigger...more expensive mistake.

But, hopefully you learned something from it!

Very old story. If you didn’t have that as a comeback you’d be lost and you even screwed that up. So details are ALWAYS important.

jmonroe

Disagree. It is important to have detail people do the detail work...it is people with the big vision....the Elon Musk's, the Jeff Bezos, the Driver100s who make things happen....so the detail people can fulfil the dream.

Since you aren’t a Musk or a Bezos you’ll have to do your own thinking and that includes grade school arithmetic and a few other similar high level tasks.

jmonroe

You're right again, according to that book Musk got investors to buy the technology. I started with $0 (that is Zero Dollars) and made a company that did $4 million a year in sales. Bezos similar...they had to use other people's money to get started.

Can you prove that? With your displayed arithmetic skills I don’t know how that is possible.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

I saw a Mercedes A220 today. I never knew they existed which I guess mean they don’t sell that many. It was funny to see such a small Mercedes.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

I saw a Mercedes A220 today. I never knew they existed which I guess mean they don’t sell that many. It was funny to see such a small Mercedes.

Yeah, but did you notice, it had a backup camera.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

@bwia said:
Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7C4Isc3atA

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

explorerx4

My next door neighbor has a rad A220. Much better looking than a CLA.

stickguy

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

3 fine choices. Serving different niches.

Best bet might be the truck. Gives an excuse to get a sporty toy later!

Well, if you decide to go for the Maverick, but want to save money for a sporty toy later, what about considering the base model Maverick? I mean, does it have to be all tricked out if it's your functional vehicle? And check this out, which I thought was close to amazing—Ford is right now offering 0% financing for 36 months on the new Maverick, as well as 0.9% at 48 months, and 1.9 for 60 months. But if you get the base model of the Maverick the payments might be doable for 36 months. The base model has Apple CarPlay/AA with 8 inch touch screen, air conditioning, AM/FM radio with 6 speakers, etc. For a work truck that seems good enough to me. Even taking a trip in it should be okay.

My guess is Ford hit it out of the park with this truck, expect ADM's at first, then add on the mop and glow, the pinstriping and all the other overpriced worthless junk they will add on. I say good luck getting MSRP for a while after they come out.

If what I’ve read over in the CCBA forum is correct, you order the Maverick on Fords web site and have it shipped to the dealership of your choice. So you will get it for MSRP plus the applicable taxes, shipping, doc fee and stuff like that but no ADM junk.

Welcome to the new millennium of car buying.

jmonroe

Not quite. You order online and assign the order to dealer you choose. The dealer then sets the price. But, if they are bad you can change to another dealer. But I think until you have a signed buyers order with one, nothing happens because they have somehow accept the order so it will get produced.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

snakeweasel

@explorerx4 said:
My next door neighbor has a rad A220. Much better looking than a CLA.

I agree the A220 looks better the the CLA.

bwia

@snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:
Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7C4Isc3atA

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

An accomplished gentleman like you who has everything that that money can buy, why not complete the ensemble with a brand new fragranced S class.

snakeweasel

@bwia said:

@snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:
Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7C4Isc3atA

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

An accomplished gentleman like you who has everything that that money, why not compete the ensemble with a brand new fragrances S class.

Gentleman? You don't know me very well do you?

Anyway I rather sink that money into a Goldwing and a few awesome vacations.

abacomike

@driver100:

I checked my trunk and I don’t have a spare tire. I do have a lug wrench and a jack, but there is no space for a spare.

So I called the dealership and they told me the G90 does not come with a spare tire because it has “enhanced roadside assistance” which is available 24/7 on the car. So I am going to contact Genesis consumer affairs to make sure that is in fact the truth.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

3 fine choices. Serving different niches.

Best bet might be the truck. Gives an excuse to get a sporty toy later!

Well, if you decide to go for the Maverick, but want to save money for a sporty toy later, what about considering the base model Maverick? I mean, does it have to be all tricked out if it's your functional vehicle? And check this out, which I thought was close to amazing—Ford is right now offering 0% financing for 36 months on the new Maverick, as well as 0.9% at 48 months, and 1.9 for 60 months. But if you get the base model of the Maverick the payments might be doable for 36 months. The base model has Apple CarPlay/AA with 8 inch touch screen, air conditioning, AM/FM radio with 6 speakers, etc. For a work truck that seems good enough to me. Even taking a trip in it should be okay.

My guess is Ford hit it out of the park with this truck, expect ADM's at first, then add on the mop and glow, the pinstriping and all the other overpriced worthless junk they will add on. I say good luck getting MSRP for a while after they come out.

If what I’ve read over in the CCBA forum is correct, you order the Maverick on Fords web site and have it shipped to the dealership of your choice. So you will get it for MSRP plus the applicable taxes, shipping, doc fee and stuff like that but no ADM junk.

Welcome to the new millennium of car buying.

jmonroe

Not quite. You order online and assign the order to dealer you choose. The dealer then sets the price. But, if they are bad you can change to another dealer. But I think until you have a signed buyers order with one, nothing happens because they have somehow accept the order so it will get produced.

That being the case I think a buyer could contact a dealer or two or three and tell them how they plan to place an order via the Ford web site and ask the dealers what they will sell it for. Out the door or however the buyer wants to see their number.

Therefore, there can still be some negotiation with the dealers since they’ll all know what you’re about to do. I can’t see how that won’t happen.

jmonroe

stickguy

Yes, you can shop dealers. On the Maverick forums the discounting dealers are well known

This system should make it harder for dealers to gouge since there isn’t an allocation system. And no overhead. Just take every order possible to get volume.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

@driver100:

I checked my trunk and I don’t have a spare tire. I do have a lug wrench and a jack, but there is no space for a spare.

So I called the dealership and they told me the G90 does not come with a spare tire because it has “enhanced roadside assistance” which is available 24/7 on the car. So I am going to contact Genesis consumer affairs to make sure that is in fact the truth.

I don’t blame you because IIRC, when you had your problem sinking up to a feature (I can’t remember which one since you have so many) someone pointed to the sky and said that satellite (as he pointed to the sky) is the problem.

I have no patience or sympathy for dealers who shoot from the hip.

jmonroe

fintail

You lease it, register it under a (fake) business, etc. I suspect at least half of S-class are leased.

I agree about A vs CLA as well, but I am not a big fan of the "coupe" sedans anyway, claustrophobic inside.

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

qbrozen

@fintail said:
What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well, if the money came from hard work, such a person would likely get a vehicle with better value retention. At least I’d think so.

mjfloyd1

The heart wants what the heart wants

fintail

That's an enormous "if" lol. Also, that's why there's a lease, after the initial new period, the lease will be subsidized, add that to my suspicion anyway of many these often not claimed to be for personal use, and I am sure the numbers can be justified.

qbrozen said:

@fintail said:

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well, if the money came from hard work, such a person would likely get a vehicle with better value retention. At least I’d think so.

tjc78

Hope everyone having a fun Saturday night with a nice beverage. (Or 5).

snakeweasel

@bwia said:
Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well then I would buy a really nice car for 50 or 60k and send the rest of the 147k to a worthy charity.

snakeweasel

@tjc78 said:
Hope everyone having a fun Saturday night with a nice beverage. (Or 5).

Having crackers and cheese with a nice sangria with the one I love.

qbrozen

Watching the Giants with a bottle of water

driver100

snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well then I would buy a really nice car for 50 or 60k and send the rest of the 147k to a worthy charity.

Really! I don't think I'd get a $147000 car because nothing in that price range really appeals to me, and if they do they are too large, or they are made for racing and they need special snow tires for the winter, and they look a bit pretentious. Also they are fairly rare so servicing it will be a hassle. But, if someone has that kind of money and really wants that car....why shouldn't they buy it? They earned the right to it.

driver100

abacomike said:

@driver100:

I checked my trunk and I don’t have a spare tire. I do have a lug wrench and a jack, but there is no space for a spare.

So I called the dealership and they told me the G90 does not come with a spare tire because it has “enhanced roadside assistance” which is available 24/7 on the car. So I am going to contact Genesis consumer affairs to make sure that is in fact the truth.

I wonder if the jack and the wrench are because they are a bit special for that make...maybe not standard equipment on an AAA truck. I still don't get it...if your tire goes completely....and I think you said they aren't RFTs.....then do they send you a truck that they load your car onto...all for a flat tire?

stickguy

Driver, yes.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well then I would buy a really nice car for 50 or 60k and send the rest of the 147k to a worthy charity.

The old farmer’s retirement fund is accepting donations.

Sandman6472

Dodged a bullet with Fred and looking like something similar will happen with Grace, G-d willing! Not much rain with Fred but think we'll get a bit more with Grace though as it's more defined and moving at a quicker rate than Fred did. We should know by Wednesday or Thursday what the story will be but hoping it goes to the west of us.

snakeweasel

@driver100 said:
Really! I don't think I'd get a $147000 car because nothing in that price range really appeals to me, and if they do they are too large, or they are made for racing and they need special snow tires for the winter, and they look a bit pretentious. Also they are fairly rare so servicing it will be a hassle. But, if someone has that kind of money and really wants that car....why shouldn't they buy it? They earned the right to it.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't buy a $147k car if they can afford it, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't.

snakeweasel

@oldfarmer50 said:
The old farmer’s retirement fund is accepting donations.

Great, I have an old worn out rocking chair that's falling apart just come on down and pick it up.

tjc78

snakeweasel said:

@driver100 said:

Really! I don't think I'd get a $147000 car because nothing in that price range really appeals to me, and if they do they are too large, or they are made for racing and they need special snow tires for the winter, and they look a bit pretentious. Also they are fairly rare so servicing it will be a hassle. But, if someone has that kind of money and really wants that car....why shouldn't they buy it? They earned the right to it.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't buy a $147k car if they can afford it, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't.

I wouldn’t buy it... but definitely lease it.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Dodged a bullet with Fred and looking like something similar will happen with Grace, G-d willing! Not much rain with Fred but think we'll get a bit more with Grace though as it's more defined and moving at a quicker rate than Fred did. We should know by Wednesday or Thursday what the story will be but hoping it goes to the west of us.

For a second I thought you were having trouble with your neighbors but then I realized who Fred and Grace were. Stay safe down there.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

@driver100 said:

Really! I don't think I'd get a $147000 car because nothing in that price range really appeals to me, and if they do they are too large, or they are made for racing and they need special snow tires for the winter, and they look a bit pretentious. Also they are fairly rare so servicing it will be a hassle. But, if someone has that kind of money and really wants that car....why shouldn't they buy it? They earned the right to it.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't buy a $147k car if they can afford it, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't.

We know you wouldn't buy a $147000 car....it doesn't make sense from an accountants stand point. Why does a person buy a $147000 car? Is it always for status or is it because they can? TJC would lease it. If you have $millions then it won't matter whether you buy or lease. Might be better to buy so you can get rid of it easier if you see something you want more (I didn't say "need" more on purpose).
I found a 2021 MB E53 that I like for $100k CDN, probably $85k USD.
If I had that kind of money to spend on a car I'd try the matte gray finish just to be different.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

The heart wants what the heart wants

At my mature point in life all I want from mine is for it to keep ticking.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

@bwia said:

Here is a recent YouTube video. It is a $147,000 S580. Sorry, the video is a little long but you can scroll through the boring parts. Enjoy

Maybe it's just me but I have better things to do with $147k than to put it in a depreciating asset.

What if you had $10 million in the bank and income of $2million a year?

Well then I would buy a really nice car for 50 or 60k and send the rest of the 147k to a worthy charity.

Like the “ @jmonroe Wish I Didn’t Have to Settle for a Wannabe Car Fund”.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Got a new ceiling fan with a light for Father's Day and decided to put it up.
Followed the wiring in he instructions but light didn't work and fan didn't seem right either.
We have a wall switch that controls the fan speed and has a toggle for the light.
Figured out that the fan and light power is reversed.
I think I'll just change it at the switch.

driver100

I went to the DIY carwash on Friday. It used to be that you put in $3 worth of coins for a wash....I could do the car for $4. If you didn't finish you could add coins. Now you use your credit card, and the amount of time has been shortened. I swiped my card to get $4 worth....I got 80% done and there was still soap on the rest. I couldn't add $1s worth of coins this time time so I had to swipe for a minimum $3 more = $7. If I had known I could have done it for $5. :@

ab348

driver100 said:

I went to the DIY carwash on Friday. It used to be that you put in $3 worth of coins for a wash....I could do the car for $4. If you didn't finish you could add coins. Now you use your credit card, and the amount of time has been shortened. I swiped my card to get $4 worth....I got 80% done and there was still soap on the rest. I couldn't add $1s worth of coins this time time so I had to swipe for a minimum $3 more = $7. If I had known I could have done it for $5. :@

Must of been designed by the same sharpies who the city here used when they decided to get rid of all their traditional coin-eating parking meters and go digital. Now you just park where there used to be a meter, and either use a pay station inconveniently located somewhere in the area, or what they prefer, the Hotspot app on your phone. But if you want to buy, say, $3 worth of parking with that, you're out of luck. You have to top up your digital wallet using a credit card, and the minimum charge is $10. So if you're like me and seldom go to the areas where this regime is in place, the company is sitting on a pile of your and other people's money.

tjc78

All of those payment systems have overhead. The convenience of cashless has a cost.

explorerx4

Looking at the switch wiring it has a red wire connected to a red wire and a black to black, so I just reversed those wires on the fan itself. Everything working now.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

I went to the DIY carwash on Friday. It used to be that you put in $3 worth of coins for a wash....I could do the car for $4. If you didn't finish you could add coins. Now you use your credit card, and the amount of time has been shortened. I swiped my card to get $4 worth....I got 80% done and there was still soap on the rest. I couldn't add $1s worth of coins this time time so I had to swipe for a minimum $3 more = $7. If I had known I could have done it for $5. :@

Must of been designed by the same sharpies who the city here used when they decided to get rid of all their traditional coin-eating parking meters and go digital. Now you just park where there used to be a meter, and either use a pay station inconveniently located somewhere in the area, or what they prefer, the Hotspot app on your phone. But if you want to buy, say, $3 worth of parking with that, you're out of luck. You have to top up your digital wallet using a credit card, and the minimum charge is $10. So if you're like me and seldom go to the areas where this regime is in place, the company is sitting on a pile of your and other people's money.

That’s why I always use cash.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Looking at the switch wiring it has a red wire connected to a red wire and a black to black, so I just reversed those wires on the fan itself. Everything working now.

I got a ceiling fan a few years ago and paid to have it installed on the cathedral ceiling rather than risk falling off a ladder.

The installer couldn’t get it working and promised to come back to work on it….I’m still waiting. Meanwhile, I went to the fan thermostat on the wall and turned it up and down. The thing started working. Evidently the on signal was different for this new one.

Now why couldn’t an electrician figure that out?

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

I went to the DIY carwash on Friday. It used to be that you put in $3 worth of coins for a wash....I could do the car for $4. If you didn't finish you could add coins. Now you use your credit card, and the amount of time has been shortened. I swiped my card to get $4 worth....I got 80% done and there was still soap on the rest. I couldn't add $1s worth of coins this time time so I had to swipe for a minimum $3 more = $7. If I had known I could have done it for $5. :@

Must of been designed by the same sharpies who the city here used when they decided to get rid of all their traditional coin-eating parking meters and go digital. Now you just park where there used to be a meter, and either use a pay station inconveniently located somewhere in the area, or what they prefer, the Hotspot app on your phone. But if you want to buy, say, $3 worth of parking with that, you're out of luck. You have to top up your digital wallet using a credit card, and the minimum charge is $10. So if you're like me and seldom go to the areas where this regime is in place, the company is sitting on a pile of your and other people's money.

That’s why I always use cash.

You'd be hoofing it around the area trying to find the pay station in that case. They very much want you to use the app instead.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
When I first hooked up mine, it didn't work. Then I figured out that you have to use the pull chains to activate it. After that, I just had to get the switch working correctly.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

I went to the DIY carwash on Friday. It used to be that you put in $3 worth of coins for a wash....I could do the car for $4. If you didn't finish you could add coins. Now you use your credit card, and the amount of time has been shortened. I swiped my card to get $4 worth....I got 80% done and there was still soap on the rest. I couldn't add $1s worth of coins this time time so I had to swipe for a minimum $3 more = $7. If I had known I could have done it for $5. :@

Must of been designed by the same sharpies who the city here used when they decided to get rid of all their traditional coin-eating parking meters and go digital. Now you just park where there used to be a meter, and either use a pay station inconveniently located somewhere in the area, or what they prefer, the Hotspot app on your phone. But if you want to buy, say, $3 worth of parking with that, you're out of luck. You have to top up your digital wallet using a credit card, and the minimum charge is $10. So if you're like me and seldom go to the areas where this regime is in place, the company is sitting on a pile of your and other people's money.

That’s why I always use cash.

It's getting harder and harder to find places that accept cash.
Quite often cash taking machinery doesn't work. Have you ever parallel parked at a parking meter, look around for some cash, go up to the meter, put some money in....like $1, and then find out it isn't working. A long time ago I found out that doesn't mean you won't get a ticket, even if you leave a note explaining why it didn't register. I once fought a parking ticket I got that way and they let me off, but told me next time they won't do that.....just because a meter is broken it doesn't mean you can park there for free.

driver100

tjc78 said:

All of those payment systems have overhead. The convenience of cashless has a cost.

My guess is that it more than balances out....if people can charge items they are more likely to spend a lot more.