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oldfarmer50

Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

mjfloyd1

Here is one for @roadburner

This kid attacked a girl with a knife at what I recall as a violin clinic at IU. He is a S Korean citizen but has been here for years as my oldest went to elementary school with him. He was sentenced to home detention due to mental health issues but was detained for deportation to S Korea shortly thereafter. Then this. Crazy.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/12/11/inmate-charged-plotting-kill-14-people-connected-his-case/6468798001/

If it doesn’t open, he tried to pay his his cell mate $20000 to torture and kill 14 people involved in his case.

snakeweasel

Toyota wants to charge a monthly fee to use a remote start.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service

roadburner

@mjfloyd1 said:
Here is one for @roadburner

This kid attacked a girl with a knife at what I recall as a violin clinic at IU. He is a S Korean citizen but has been here for years as my oldest went to elementary school with him. He was sentenced to home detention due to mental health issues but was detained for deportation to S Korea shortly thereafter. Then this. Crazy.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/12/11/inmate-charged-plotting-kill-14-people-connected-his-case/6468798001/

If it doesn’t open, he tried to pay his his cell mate $20000 to torture and kill 14 people involved in his case.

I’d do everything in my power to put him UNDER the jail.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

Here is one for @roadburner

This kid attacked a girl with a knife at what I recall as a violin clinic at IU. He is a S Korean citizen but has been here for years as my oldest went to elementary school with him. He was sentenced to home detention due to mental health issues but was detained for deportation to S Korea shortly thereafter. Then this. Crazy.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/12/11/inmate-charged-plotting-kill-14-people-connected-his-case/6468798001/

If it doesn’t open, he tried to pay his his cell mate $20000 to torture and kill 14 people involved in his case.

Well, we all know who’s going to be on his revised list.

I don’t know why our so-called justice system doesn’t just get rid of these people when they’re convicted. Seems to be a waste of money keeping them incarcerated forever.

jmonroe

roadburner

@bwia said:
Condolences go out to the families of the people of Kentucky who perished in the tornadoes. Disaster crews are deployed and more Help is on the way.

The tornado was on the ground for over 220 miles. Bowling Green and Mayfield appear to be the hardest hit. The supercell containing the tornado weakened a bit before it made it to my county and tracked south of my place. We were extremely fortunate; we only had to deal with a few fallen trees.

jipster

@oldfarmer50 said:
Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

IMO, Samsung can build a good television, but that's about it.

graphicguy

Have gone even further into the automotive YouTubers. Intentional drama and channels with lots of uninteresting filler I have dropped from my viewing.

These two are interesting however. This one is focused on 40-50 year old American iron…..

https://youtube.com/c/RareClassicCars

This one is hosted by a young Mercedes Master Mechanic….

https://youtube.com/c/LegitStreetCars

stickguy

Alex (legit) is great. Nice guy, does good work and explains it well. Very talented. and has donated a number or rehabbed cars to deserving people.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

LG is better, though some people still report issues with parts and service availability. But in 7 years (knock wood) we have not needed any repairs on ours. Samsung seems to be the one to stay away from.

fridge works great though.

stickguy

speaking of appliances, we stopped at another store and managed to finally see all the options we were looking at. The Frigidaire was nicer in person than we expected. Might just end up going with that one to economize. though the Whirlpool we were originally going to get before the repair guy turned us off to them in person also looked nice.

will decide Monday when the appliance guy gets back to us with timing to even get the LG.

carnaught

@andre

stickguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

LG is better, though some people still report issues with parts and service availability. But in 7 years (knock wood) we have not needed any repairs on ours. Samsung seems to be the one to stay away from.

fridge works great though.

Don’t remember if I mentioned it here, but our 16 mos. old high-end (~$3k) LG frig., in our recently sold house, required a new compressor. We were without a frig. for two weeks then. Fortunately we had an LG service company take care of it with the extra cost service policy we bought. We asked if this compressor had a guarantee and the serviceman said “yes, guaranteed”, but what he meant was that it was “guaranteed to go bad again”. The next time it would not be covered. He admitted LG was more about being flashy and not devotion to reliability. The experience taught me that as far as LG was concerned, stick with LG TV’s only. The “mom and pop” local company we bought it from recommended LG over Samsung. I will NEVER recommend nor buy another LG refrigerator.

kyfdx

oldfarmer50 said:

Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

LG, by far.

Avoid any Samsung appliance that involves water.

We have a Bosch, but it's the cheapest one (side by side). The french door models have two compressors and are $$$$$

tjc78

Do not
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Buy a Samsung

I just defrosted this ice maker last week

snakeweasel

@tjc78 said:
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
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Buy a Samsung

I just defrosted this ice maker last week

So are you saying not to buy a Samsung?

mjfloyd1

@roadburner - another equally offensive case (really more offensive) here from a couple of years ago. A family from FL here putting up posters for a circus coming to town. The dad brings the lifeless body of a 10ish year old into the ER- malnourished and bruised from beatings. Step mom pleads guilty and gets 65 years. Dad has public defenders who get evidence suppressed from the dads phone showing the kid chained up in the bathtub of the hotel. The police told the dad that he could refuse the hotel room and cell phone search but he signed the paperwork allowing it. The recording shows they didn’t say the dad was entitled to a lawyer so evidence suppressed. Nuts.

bwia

roadburner said:

@bwia said:

Condolences go out to the families of the people of Kentucky who perished in the tornadoes. Disaster crews are deployed and more Help is on the way.

The tornado was on the ground for over 220 miles. Bowling Green and Mayfield appear to be the hardest hit. The supercell containing the tornado weakened a bit before it made it to my county and tracked south of my place. We were extremely fortunate; we only had to deal with a few fallen trees.

Thank goodness you were spared the ravages of the tornadoes. By the way, did you lose power and did your water supply remain intact? If not, consider yourselves lucky.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

Toyota wants to charge a monthly fee to use a remote start.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service

I would tell them to quickly assume room temperature, although not that politely.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Here is one for @roadburner

This kid attacked a girl with a knife at what I recall as a violin clinic at IU. He is a S Korean citizen but has been here for years as my oldest went to elementary school with him. He was sentenced to home detention due to mental health issues but was detained for deportation to S Korea shortly thereafter. Then this. Crazy.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/crime/2021/12/11/inmate-charged-plotting-kill-14-people-connected-his-case/6468798001/

If it doesn’t open, he tried to pay his his cell mate $20000 to torture and kill 14 people involved in his case.

Well, we all know who’s going to be on his revised list.

I don’t know why our so-called justice system doesn’t just get rid of these people when they’re convicted. Seems to be a waste of money keeping them incarcerated forever.

jmonroe

Boy, you’re on a roll today.

tjc78

@snakeweasel said:

@tjc78 said:
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not
Do not

Buy a Samsung

I just defrosted this ice maker last week

So are you saying not to buy a Samsung?

You know I wasn’t sure if I made my point or not 😎

carnaught

Suffice to say, even though flashy looking, do not buy an LG or Samsung refrigerator or else 🤪.

mjfloyd1

@roadburner said:

@bwia said:
Condolences go out to the families of the people of Kentucky who perished in the tornadoes. Disaster crews are deployed and more Help is on the way.

The tornado was on the ground for over 220 miles. Bowling Green and Mayfield appear to be the hardest hit. The supercell containing the tornado weakened a bit before it made it to my county and tracked south of my place. We were extremely fortunate; we only had to deal with a few fallen trees.

Glad you had not much damage

fintail

I rolled the dice on an LG a couple months ago. I've read horror stories about the linear compressors, but also heard they've solved some issues in recent production. Fridge was bought with a few other LGs for the new house (already had a nearly new Bosch dishwasher - not replacing that) people love the LG gas range for some reason, I get compliments about it.

oldfarmer50 said:

Opinions:

Which refrigerator brand is better, LG or Samsung?

tjc78

At the end of the day it’s all a crap shoot. There isn’t a single brand that you don’t hear a horror story about.

stickguy

that's what we found researching DWs recently. read the reviews, and every one is not worth buying. and visiting a few stores, one guy likes brand X, and the other guy hates it. So what you get probably depends on who you talk to! If we started at the place we went today would still be getting a WP delivered next month! About the only constant is don't get a Samsung.

LG, that usually was not a function issue, just support. So makes sense that the guy who was fine with them was also the authorized service center!

imidazol97

Although not a post about my dishwasher (Whirlpool) which is an upscale model and is great), I''
mention my Whirlpool refrigerator. A summer or so back we had an odd icing or snow problem. Had
the A-Z Appliance Repair come out under 5 year warranty by Lowes. Couldn't find anything wrong...

I have decided my wife or I had not gotten the freezer door shut completely and that caused the strange
snow formation problem. One time months back I caught the door not quite completely shut because some food item was blocking it with a little resistance.

The repairman was right in the end. He felt a door had not been shut causing the whole thing to warm and have moisture go in which then showed as a snowy frost on the refrigerator air inlet.

Just like with cars, if you have a dealer who is very good at working with customers to achieve satisfaction even if the manufacturer won't, the service company in your area for the appliance brand, along with the manufacturer's backing them, makes all the difference in what you can and should buy.

The A-Z Appliance in our southwest corner of the state is Whirlpool authorized and supported for all the Whirlpoool brands. The technicians are Whirlpool trained.

explorerx4

I watched some YT videos about Samsung icemakers freezing up.
Found this in the details of one of the videos, from April 2021.
"Samsung is now fixing the known Ice Marker issue for free just call this # to see if you are able to get this Free Service 1-800-SAMSUNG(726-7864) ."

jmonroe1

@oldfarmer50 said:
I would tell them to quickly assume room temperature, although not that politely.

When I got my ‘15 Genny the Genesis guru that was explaining the cars features came to the point where he wanted my CC number. When I asked why I got some phony answer but eventually I gave it to him anyway. It turned out the only reason he wanted it was so that Hyundai’s Blue Link would be connected so that I would have about 6 months free use of that service that included remote start plus a handful of other worthless junk. Then the card would be hit to continue the service. He didn’t say that but I knew that’s what was going to happen.

Even though I told him I didn’t want any of that stuff he said once I tried the remote start feature, through my phone, I’d never want to be without it. Son #1 was now in the office as all of this was going on and he said, “dad, give it a try it’s free. See how it works. You don’t have to keep it”. Even though he knew if I said NO, I wasn’t going to use it. Finally, his mother said, “can we get out of here already. Just give him the card number. You know, you just might like it”.

Never used it even once. When the day comes that I’m afraid to get into a hot or cold car that’s the day they can box me up for the long journey.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead

tjc78 said:

There isn’t a single brand that you don’t hear a horror story about.

True. The key is to have 25+ year old appliances. Ask me how I know. I realize that most on here would rather be drawn and quartered, but there you go.

stickguy

at the Honda dealer today looking at the Si (manual trans of course) the sales guy (younger, maybe still 20s, possibly 30ish) was pointing out some things different on the Si vs. regular Civic. some of it was manual related (things the safety nannies didn't do). But his big thing he just had to point out was it did not come with remote start.

when I told him I did not care because I would never use it anyway, he looked like I told him his mother was a wildebeest. He just could not understand anyone that did not think this was the greatest invention ever, and wanted to use it all the time.

I might have broken his spirit entirely if I told him I also never use auto climate either.

jmonroe1

@cdnpinhead said:
True. The key is to have 25+ year old appliances. Ask me how I know. I realize that most on here would rather be drawn and quartered, but there you go.

For fear of jinxing the Maytag washer we inherited from my Mother when we moved back to the Burgh in ‘97 from SC, I’d tell you how old it is but I won’t. So, I’m going to give you guys a hint, it was bought in the middle of a decade that began with an 8.

jmonroe

roadburner

bwia said:

roadburner said:

@bwia said:

Condolences go out to the families of the people of Kentucky who perished in the tornadoes. Disaster crews are deployed and more Help is on the way.

The tornado was on the ground for over 220 miles. Bowling Green and Mayfield appear to be the hardest hit. The supercell containing the tornado weakened a bit before it made it to my county and tracked south of my place. We were extremely fortunate; we only had to deal with a few fallen trees.

Thank goodness you were spared the ravages of the tornadoes. By the way, did you lose power and did your water supply remain intact? If not, consider yourselves lucky.

The power didn't even flicker; our power line runs directly to a substation about two miles away. If that line is intact we get power as soon as the substation is online. As for water, we have a cistern, so if we have power we have water.

tjc78

@explorerx4
I’ve heard Samsung will fix it, but not sure I apply because I’m not the original owner (came with house)

Re:remote start
I’ve in the past said I don’t use it… well I really don’t use it now since we have the garage and WFH. BUT, In the summer once we pack up all our beach gear I start the car with the phone and when we get to it to load our stuff it’s all nice and cool.

Bouchée I know

driver100

Is this a scam?
I get a notice from Legacy.com with a candle on it and it says "John Doe" has died. Do you want to leave a message or donate for a tree.
The name sounds familiar but I don't really know who this guy is.
Legacy.com is a real company. I looked on their site and they don't list any John Does.
It is probably a scam but if it is it is very clever, it makes you curious to know who John Doe is!

driver100

Well, we all know who’s going to be on his revised list.

I don’t know why our so-called justice system doesn’t just get rid of these people when they’re convicted. Seems to be a waste of money keeping them incarcerated forever.

jmonroe

@oldfarmer50 Boy, you’re on a roll today.

He is very acerbic these days. They should probably lock up and throw away the key for tax cheats too.

driver100

I watched the Canadian Consumer Show Marketplace and the horror stories about Samsung refrigerators, so I would never buy one. One woman's new fridge made huge puddles on the floor from day one and Samsung would just ignore her.
We like Bosche DWs and they have performed well, though expect them to die around year 7. We have a Maytag in Florida and it does a good job, a bit noisier and the spacing arrangement is not as well thought out as the Bosche if that matters to you. The Bosche one has various sizes so you can pack in more small dishes, whereas the Maytags are all the same.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

Although not a post about my dishwasher (Whirlpool) which is an upscale model and is great), I''
mention my Whirlpool refrigerator. A summer or so back we had an odd icing or snow problem. Had
the A-Z Appliance Repair come out under 5 year warranty by Lowes. Couldn't find anything wrong...

I have decided my wife or I had not gotten the freezer door shut completely and that caused the strange
snow formation problem. One time months back I caught the door not quite completely shut because some food item was blocking it with a little resistance.

The repairman was right in the end. He felt a door had not been shut causing the whole thing to warm and have moisture go in which then showed as a snowy frost on the refrigerator air inlet.

Just like with cars, if you have a dealer who is very good at working with customers to achieve satisfaction even if the manufacturer won't, the service company in your area for the appliance brand, along with the manufacturer's backing them, makes all the difference in what you can and should buy.

The A-Z Appliance in our southwest corner of the state is Whirlpool authorized and supported for all the Whirlpoool brands. The technicians are Whirlpool trained.

We had the same problem with our 11 yr old Bosch, a couple months ago. Thought we had left the door open, and some of the ice started melting in the freezer.

Found out a couple weeks later, that wasn't the case. The compressor was failing, and the ice melting left a trail that forced the door open a crack.

Fortunately, our dealer had one (1) in stock, and delivered the next day.

kyfdx

True, you can get bad appliances of any make.

But, Samsung refrigerators are universally disliked, it seems.

ab348

kyfdx said:

True, you can get bad appliances of any make.

But, Samsung refrigerators are universally disliked, it seems.

But Home Depot here seems to love them as they are prominently featured on their website. And of course they are on perpetual promo.

ab348

A first for me yesterday. The ATS had been in the garage since Wednesday, as overnight Thursday we were getting big snow. Sure enough, we got 14" here, but I didn't need to go anywhere Thursday or Friday, so my guy dug things out and I stayed put. Friday morning the temp was -11C (somewhere in the teens Fahrenheit) but then during the day a new system moved in (related to the awful one that spawned the tornadoes in the US) and things really warmed up.

Saturday morning I had to get some groceries so I pulled it out of the garage into mild temps that by now were on the plus side of the equation and with very humid air. The car was still very, very cold and the second I began heading down the street every window instantly fogged up, to the point that I had to pull over. I literally could not see a thing. At first I thought it was on the inside of the glass but soon realized it was on the outside, and the wipers at least let me see where I was going. Side windows down let me see to make turns. In a few minutes things finally normalized. Wild.

stickguy

I have had that happen at times. Takes a while for it to clear up.

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

I think I just got the same scam text that driver100 was talking about. It says:

WAL shipment tracking: Hi, your package with shipping numberPA386Z12 is waiting for you to check the shipping address: dreadprovide.com/rQuMky7.

Since I have ordered nothing where I would give my cell number as a contact, I’m assuming this is some way of getting you to download malware or give up financial information.

Merry Christmas from the Nigerian prince.

There have been so many data breaches out there over the last couple of years, I’m surprised more haven’t been targeted. I know as soon as I change a password, I get a message that it’s been found in another data breach a month later.

I know my cell phone number must have been involved in one of those breaches. As I get the scam texts on my iPhone, too. I should change my phone number, but I’ve had it so long I am reluctant.

Good news, iPhOS allows you to hide your email address when one is required. I know that feature alone has cut down on email spam by about 75%.

graphicguy

The loss in KY is truly devastating. Prayers and best wishes going out to all affected.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

Well, we all know who’s going to be on his revised list.

I don’t know why our so-called justice system doesn’t just get rid of these people when they’re convicted. Seems to be a waste of money keeping them incarcerated forever.

jmonroe

@oldfarmer50 Boy, you’re on a roll today.

He is very acerbic these days. They should probably lock up and throw away the key for tax cheats too.



Good description. Beats the hell out of being called a PITA.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

A first for me yesterday. The ATS had been in the garage since Wednesday, as overnight Thursday we were getting big snow. Sure enough, we got 14" here, but I didn't need to go anywhere Thursday or Friday, so my guy dug things out and I stayed put. Friday morning the temp was -11C (somewhere in the teens Fahrenheit) but then during the day a new system moved in (related to the awful one that spawned the tornadoes in the US) and things really warmed up.

Saturday morning I had to get some groceries so I pulled it out of the garage into mild temps that by now were on the plus side of the equation and with very humid air. The car was still very, very cold and the second I began heading down the street every window instantly fogged up, to the point that I had to pull over. I literally could not see a thing. At first I thought it was on the inside of the glass but soon realized it was on the outside, and the wipers at least let me see where I was going. Side windows down let me see to make turns. In a few minutes things finally normalized. Wild.

You should have used remote start.

jmonroe

fintail

I've seen firms that refurbish vintage appliances, stuff from the 30s-60s. That would be cool to have especially if in a period house, but they weren't inexpensive. I went to a yard sale a few years ago and spotted a 30s monitor top fridge, pristine condition, owner said it ran silently and always stayed cold. I was sorely tempted to take it home, but no place to put it. My grandma got maybe 45 years out of a fridge and wall oven, only replaced because seals and a few plastic parts gave out, and replacements didn't exist. When the house sold earlier this year, it still had the original countertop range and hood, almost 60 years later, with the garage beer fridge of similar age also still purring like new.

My mom bought a house this summer, and it included appliances. The fridge is ~20 years old, odd as the house had a to the studs remodel maybe 10 years ago. My mom kept it, saying she likes it (but replaced the stove, as she dislikes the flat burner type).

cdnpinhead said:

tjc78 said:

There isn’t a single brand that you don’t hear a horror story about.

True. The key is to have 25+ year old appliances. Ask me how I know. I realize that most on here would rather be drawn and quartered, but there you go.

mjfloyd1

@stickguy said:
at the Honda dealer today looking at the Si (manual trans of course) the sales guy (younger, maybe still 20s, possibly 30ish) was pointing out some things different on the Si vs. regular Civic. some of it was manual related (things the safety nannies didn't do). But his big thing he just had to point out was it did not come with remote start.

when I told him I did not care because I would never use it anyway, he looked like I told him his mother was a wildebeest. He just could not understand anyone that did not think this was the greatest invention ever, and wanted to use it all the time.

I might have broken his spirit entirely if I told him I also never use auto climate either.

It seems like a remote start with a manual transmission could end poorly if you forget to leave it in neutral….

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I would tell them to quickly assume room temperature, although not that politely.

When I got my ‘15 Genny the Genesis guru that was explaining the cars features came to the point where he wanted my CC number. When I asked why I got some phony answer but eventually I gave it to him anyway. It turned out the only reason he wanted it was so that Hyundai’s Blue Link would be connected so that I would have about 6 months free use of that service that included remote start plus a handful of other worthless junk. Then the card would be hit to continue the service. He didn’t say that but I knew that’s what was going to happen.

Even though I told him I didn’t want any of that stuff he said once I tried the remote start feature, through my phone, I’d never want to be without it. Son #1 was now in the office as all of this was going on and he said, “dad, give it a try it’s free. See how it works. You don’t have to keep it”. Even though he knew if I said NO, I wasn’t going to use it. Finally, his mother said, “can we get out of here already. Just give him the card number. You know, you just might like it”.

Never used it even once. When the day comes that I’m afraid to get into a hot or cold car that’s the day they can box me up for the long journey.

jmonroe

My sentiment exactly. I have two cars new enough that they possibly have remote start. One stays in the garage so it’s never cold. The other is parked just outside the door so it’s no problem to step out and start it to defrost. So I’ve never had to use remote start.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

Is this a scam?
I get a notice from Legacy.com with a candle on it and it says "John Doe" has died. Do you want to leave a message or donate for a tree.
The name sounds familiar but I don't really know who this guy is.
Legacy.com is a real company. I looked on their site and they don't list any John Does.
It is probably a scam but if it is it is very clever, it makes you curious to know who John Doe is!

That seems a rather tasteless way to solicit business even if it’s for something legit. My question is how did they get your email in the first place? Did John Doe get up out of the coffin and give them a list of acquaintances?

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

I think I just got the same scam text that driver100 was talking about. It says:

WAL shipment tracking: Hi, your package with shipping numberPA386Z12 is waiting for you to check the shipping address: dreadprovide.com/rQuMky7.

Since I have ordered nothing where I would give my cell number as a contact, I’m assuming this is some way of getting you to download malware or give up financial information.

Merry Christmas from the Nigerian prince.

I seldom disclose my cell number but with my medical issues recently it has gone out to several new places. I have now gotten a number of what I assume are scam text messages saying that I have received an e-transfer and to click the message for details. I delete them all but it is just another potentially useful thing that has been ruined by scam artists.