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graphicguy

tjc78 said:

@graphicguy said:

Did the same yesterday. Cut the grass. Let the Deere run out of fuel to put it away for the winter. I think this is the latest I’ve ever cut grass.

While the tractor was running, I was going to put the hose away. Decided while I had it un-coiled, may as well wash the TLX. Ended up putting another coat of Zaino on it, too.

It helped that the GF was so impressed she had a Jefferson’s Reserve on the rocks waiting on me when I came in from doing “chores”. Then, she served some home made Philly Cheese Steaks for dinner out of some good ribeye. This was all after she came home after a full day’s work. Gotta luv’er!

Well worth my efforts….just not by design!

Just finished my bottle of Jefferson’s reserve.

How is bourbon hunting in your neck of the woods?

I feel lucky to have scored two bottles of Buffalo Trace at retail recently, but I can’t get any Eagle Rare. I also want to try Colonel Taylor but that’s impossible as well.

I would think you have better access to the allocated stuff than we do here in NJ.

Good taste. Down by @kyfdx way, the Costco there has my “go to” Basil Hayden. They also have the Jefferson Reserve “OCEAN” aged bourbon. Pricey, but really good. And, they have the old standby, Bulliet….in big bottles.

Buffalo Trace is “unobtanium” around here (Walt, if you find it, point me in the right direction). Interestingly, when the GF and I were in Alaska, I found it there. But, I can’t find it within driving distance of my home.

graphicguy

jwm40517 said:

52 Kroger stores in Central Ky will have signups for 4 days for a drawing to be able to purchase a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle at retail. 6 versions at each with the 23YO selling for $299.99 and you could sell for a few thousand. Some people get friends together to make a road trip and sign up at as many stores as possible in the day.

I’ve had 3 different versions of Pappy that someone else had. My opinion? Wouldn’t prefer it over my preferred brands, which are 1/20th the price. At the price they’re charging? No need for me to ever seek it out.

graphicguy

Stupid people doing stupid things. BTW, no injuries. Sadly, it was a TLX driver.

https://streamable.com/vcm2h2

ab348

kyfdx said:

tjc78 said:

@kyfdx said:
@tjc78

I'm headed to my local liquor store, today (in KY).

What is it exactly you are looking for, and I'll take a gander.

Eagle Rare

Colonel EH Taylor small batch

Weller Special Reserve

All allocated and nearly impossible to find in NJ at all even at inflated retails

Those are all Buffalo Trace brands, right?

My local purveyor got a good chuckle out of my request.


Buffalo Trace is owned by Sazerac, who are a surprisingly huge company with distilleries in many parts of the world, though mostly in the US and Canada. Privately owned too.

Surprisingly for such a large conglomerate, they seem to leave the operating companies pretty much alone, though I'm sure they take advantages of economies of scale in shared services.

Their portfolio of brands is staggering (pardon the pun): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sazerac_Company

coldinohio

recent costco opened here in FL; huge bourbon display
had BT, Weller, rare eagle, and PVanW-- not sure what age; all but BT gone in first 4 hours per wifey
also had 4roses- single barrel
and Jonny walker blue?- 220/

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

Stupid people doing stupid things. BTW, no injuries. Sadly, it was a TLX driver.

https://streamable.com/vcm2h2

Look ma no brains just a lot of HP (or at least more than I can handle).

jmonroe

graphicguy

ab348 said:

kyfdx said:

tjc78 said:

@kyfdx said:
@tjc78

I'm headed to my local liquor store, today (in KY).

What is it exactly you are looking for, and I'll take a gander.

Eagle Rare

Colonel EH Taylor small batch

Weller Special Reserve

All allocated and nearly impossible to find in NJ at all even at inflated retails

Those are all Buffalo Trace brands, right?

My local purveyor got a good chuckle out of my request.

Buffalo Trace is owned by Sazerac, who are a surprisingly huge company with distilleries in many parts of the world, though mostly in the US and Canada. Privately owned too.

Surprisingly for such a large conglomerate, they seem to leave the operating companies pretty much alone, though I'm sure they take advantages of economies of scale in shared services.

Their portfolio of brands is staggering (pardon the pun): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sazerac_Company

Yeah…they do seem to be good at compartmentalization of their unique brands. I’ve been to the Buffalo Trace distillery. Impressive on its own.

Anyone who is a bourbon fan should make a trip through the Bourbon Trail, which starts in Newport, KY (New Riff Distillery), which is also home to the largest spirits super store I’ve ever seen, and meanders around through Louisville, and every place in between.

You’ll get a great bourbon education. And, you’ll probably never even look at a Japanese, New York, TN, etc bourbon again!

ab348

@coldinohio said:
recent costco opened here in FL; huge bourbon display
had BT, Weller, rare eagle, and PVanW-- not sure what age; all but BT gone in first 4 hours per wifey
also had 4roses- single barrel
and Jonny walker blue?- 220/

My former employer ( the provincial liquor board) never runs out of JW Blue (vastly overpriced and not really notable in any way) and currently has ample Buffalo Trace available. However I have not seen Eagle Rare in some time (one of my favourites) and Weller is sold out. Four Roses does not really market itself in Canada so I’ve never encountered it anywhere. Pappy arrives once a year in tiny quantities assuming we get any at all and there is usually a lottery to determine the lucky few.

stickguy

I’ve been here. Mostly to get their orchard gin which is phenomenal. But found the whiskey samples tasty too. My son, the whiskey aficionado, said it was good. Pretty sure it is quite regional though in that area of NY

https://www.hudsonwhiskey.com/en-US/our-range/

snakeweasel

@graphicguy said:
Yeah…they do seem to be good at compartmentalization of their unique brands. I’ve been to the Buffalo Trace distillery. Impressive on its own.

Anyone who is a bourbon fan should make a trip through the Bourbon Trail, which starts in Newport, KY (New Riff Distillery), which is also home to the largest spirits super store I’ve ever seen, and meanders around through Louisville, and every place in between.

You’ll get a great bourbon education. And, you’ll probably never even look at a Japanese, New York, TN, etc bourbon again!

Japanese bourbon?

roadburner

Stupid people doing stupid things. BTW, no injuries- sadly.
It was a TLX driver.

Fixed it for you; we interfere with the law of natural selection at our peril.

imidazol97

For those of you here on the Cars and Tasting topic..., the Kentucky Distillers Association members
are donating barrels of rare bourbons for auction to fundraise for the many victims of the
tornado outbreak.

https://amp.kentucky.com/lexgoeat/bourbon/article256592541.html

jmonroe1

@snakeweasel said:

@graphicguy said:
Yeah…they do seem to be good at compartmentalization of their unique brands. I’ve been to the Buffalo Trace distillery. Impressive on its own.

Anyone who is a bourbon fan should make a trip through the Bourbon Trail, which starts in Newport, KY (New Riff Distillery), which is also home to the largest spirits super store I’ve ever seen, and meanders around through Louisville, and every place in between.

You’ll get a great bourbon education. And, you’ll probably never even look at a Japanese, New York, TN, etc bourbon again!

Japanese bourbon?

They call it Sake for the locals.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Sandy Munro is doing a road trip in a Model S Plaid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScV5iL6GL4

ab348

imidazol97 said:

For those of you here on the Cars and Tasting topic..., the Kentucky Distillers Association members
are donating barrels of rare bourbons for auction to fundraise for the many victims of the
tornado outbreak.

More specifics here from Fred Minnick:

https://www.fredminnick.com/2021/12/15/kentucky-bourbon-benefit-auction-items-to-watch/

graphicguy

snakeweasel said:

@graphicguy said:

Yeah…they do seem to be good at compartmentalization of their unique brands. I’ve been to the Buffalo Trace distillery. Impressive on its own.

Anyone who is a bourbon fan should make a trip through the Bourbon Trail, which starts in Newport, KY (New Riff Distillery), which is also home to the largest spirits super store I’ve ever seen, and meanders around through Louisville, and every place in between.

You’ll get a great bourbon education. And, you’ll probably never even look at a Japanese, New York, TN, etc bourbon again!

Japanese bourbon?

Just one example…

https://craftshack.com/products/the-tottori-bourbon-barrel-japanese-whisky?variant=31427130294352&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-smart&utm_campaign=AMZingPPC-Sales-SH-Smart-Liquor-JapaneseWhisky-US-EN-MCV&lssrc=googlesmartshopping&lshst=ads&lscmp=bde06009-c401-44be-9663-7845d6c2a0e4&gclid=Cj0KCQiAweaNBhDEARIsAJ5hwbcvat1WeXQ-PW2LJz8g-XdnGZN5er5li8JR-On7Se57ekKUop3NkcwaAt8OEALw_wcB

snakeweasel

@graphicguy said:
Just one example…

https://craftshack.com/products/the-tottori-bourbon-barrel-japanese-whisky?variant=31427130294352&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-smart&utm_campaign=AMZingPPC-Sales-SH-Smart-Liquor-JapaneseWhisky-US-EN-MCV&lssrc=googlesmartshopping&lshst=ads&lscmp=bde06009-c401-44be-9663-7845d6c2a0e4&gclid=Cj0KCQiAweaNBhDEARIsAJ5hwbcvat1WeXQ-PW2LJz8g-XdnGZN5er5li8JR-On7Se57ekKUop3NkcwaAt8OEALw_wcB

That's not a bourbon it's just aged in old bourbon barrels.

ab348

"Bourbon" is a protected term in some countries but not others. It is a mess, actually, because the US government has been lax in pushing for protection internationally, although there is some. However, Japan has not accepted the US position historically and so there is at least the possibility of "Japanese bourbon" being found on the shelves.

Strangely, the US industry must share part of the blame. While "Tennessee whisky" (mostly in reference to Jack Daniels, but now there are other brands too) is seemingly well-protected by law, the term "Kentucky bourbon" is on shakier ground given that much of it is actually produced at a massive distillery in Indiana these days and then shipped by tanker to Kentucky for barreling and aging. So while it is aged in Kentucky, it might not be made there, weakening the case for geographic protection of the Kentucky bourbon name. These days bourbon-like whisky is made throughout the US so if the federal government sought to protect the name they would need to seek a definition that covered national production, which would be very difficult.

mjfloyd1

Is that the MGP distillery?

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

Is that the MGP distillery?

Yes, formerly Seagram's.

I don't know that they make bourbon there, though. But, they might.

driver100

Only in Florida:
Florida Man Drives Mustang off 8-Story Parking Garage

Police in central Florida are investigating after a man drove a Ford Mustang off the top floor of an 8-story parking garage Monday afternoon.

Tavares Police Lt. Sarah Coursey said Jewels Sartin landed in a fenced area between the garage and a bank and then fled on foot, Inside Lake reported.

He was captured shortly afterward and taken to a hospital for his injuries.

“The safety cables did play a role and slow the vehicle down,” Coursey said.

Tavares Police Detective Courtney Sullivan told WOFL investigators don’t yet know a motive.



Maybe we could test oldfarmers Mustang and see how it holds up?
Investigators don't know the motive! Is there a motive or did it just happen?
He ran away so the car held up pretty well....considering, 8 stories!

stickguy

How did he get out?

And I don’t think the speed you launch at matters, it’s still the same 8 stories fall. You just land closer to the building if going slower at takeoff

stickguy

Warm today. Abnormally so. So took advantage and clayed, washed and waxed the RDX. First full clay and wax in 21 months owning it (I did use detail spray stuff a few times on the hood). Looks really good, and paint super smooth. Should be nice and protected for the winter crap and salt it gets hit by.

stickguy

One week before Xmas, and I did the job in a Tee shirt, and still worked up a sweat. It’s nuts.

driver100

stickguy said:

How did he get out?

Good question....no one has explained that yet? Maybe fell out on the way down?

imidazol97

The car landed on a fence by a dry retention pond. One of the 2006 Ford Mustang’s tires was caught in a cable hanging off the side of the garage.

But the damage to those cars was nothing compared to the pancaked Mustang.

“Every part of that car was crushed except for the driver’s seat,” Coursey said.

https://www.dailycommercial.com/story/news/local/tavares/2021/12/14/man-wednesday-drove-off-8-story-tavares-parking-garage-survived/6505943001/

qbrozen

cable kept one of the tires. Yup, job done. LOL. 6 stories ... no way he fell that distance out of the car. Maybe he didn't fall at all and bailed up on the 6th floor? I just can't imagine anyone getting out of that and walking/running away. I guess weirder things have happened.

sda

On my drive home from physical therapy I was enjoying the warmer weather, sunroof open, music playing, bumper to bumper traffic no issue. In the old days the VW warranty would expire at this mileage.

ab348

kyfdx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Is that the MGP distillery?

Yes, formerly Seagram's.

I don't know that they make bourbon there, though. But, they might.

Only a few.

https://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-kudos/industry-news/whisky-brands-that-are-made-at-mgp/

driver100

imidazol97 said:

The car landed on a fence by a dry retention pond. One of the 2006 Ford Mustang’s tires was caught in a cable hanging off the side of the garage.

But the damage to those cars was nothing compared to the pancaked Mustang.

“Every part of that car was crushed except for the driver’s seat,” Coursey said.

/

It almost sounds more like a suicide thing.
Just the guys luck, he finds the perfect method, the car is completely crushed, and somehow he escapes on foot!.

explorerx4

@driver100,
Why didn't he run back up the the top of the garage and jump off, guaranteed winner.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

"Bourbon" is a protected term in some countries but not others. It is a mess, actually, because the US government has been lax in pushing for protection internationally, although there is some. However, Japan has not accepted the US position historically and so there is at least the possibility of "Japanese bourbon" being found on the shelves.

Strangely, the US industry must share part of the blame. While "Tennessee whisky" (mostly in reference to Jack Daniels, but now there are other brands too) is seemingly well-protected by law, the term "Kentucky bourbon" is on shakier ground given that much of it is actually produced at a massive distillery in Indiana these days and then shipped by tanker to Kentucky for barreling and aging. So while it is aged in Kentucky, it might not be made there, weakening the case for geographic protection of the Kentucky bourbon name. These days bourbon-like whisky is made throughout the US so if the federal government sought to protect the name they would need to seek a definition that covered national production, which would be very difficult.

I do believe that Japan does recognize that Bourbon is an American product so they cannot call their whiskey bourbon. But they can say bourbon style. Now in the U.S. by Federal Law Bourbon can be produced anywhere in the United States and be called Bourbon. I don't think there is a legal protection for the term "Kentucky Bourbon".

In reality "Tennessee Whiskey" is just a Bourbon by a different name. There is nothing in the distilling and aging process that would prevent Jack Daniels and others from calling their whiskey Bourbon. The reason for "Tennessee Whiskey" is that the owner of Jack Daniels distillery (not sure if it was Jack himself or Lem) wanted to distinguish their whiskey from the abundant Bourbons and lobbied for the distinct naming of "Tennessee Whiskey". basically a marketing gimmick.

snakeweasel

sda said:

On my drive home from physical therapy I was enjoying the warmer weather, sunroof open, music playing, bumper to bumper traffic no issue. In the old days the VW warranty would expire at this mileage.

Wait, did you take that picture as you were driving down the road?

ab348

snakeweasel said:

ab348 said:

"Bourbon" is a protected term in some countries but not others. It is a mess, actually, because the US government has been lax in pushing for protection internationally, although there is some. However, Japan has not accepted the US position historically and so there is at least the possibility of "Japanese bourbon" being found on the shelves.

Strangely, the US industry must share part of the blame. While "Tennessee whisky" (mostly in reference to Jack Daniels, but now there are other brands too) is seemingly well-protected by law, the term "Kentucky bourbon" is on shakier ground given that much of it is actually produced at a massive distillery in Indiana these days and then shipped by tanker to Kentucky for barreling and aging. So while it is aged in Kentucky, it might not be made there, weakening the case for geographic protection of the Kentucky bourbon name. These days bourbon-like whisky is made throughout the US so if the federal government sought to protect the name they would need to seek a definition that covered national production, which would be very difficult.

I do believe that Japan does recognize that Bourbon is an American product so they cannot call their whiskey bourbon. But they can say bourbon style. Now in the U.S. by Federal Law Bourbon can be produced anywhere in the United States and be called Bourbon. I don't think there is a legal protection for the term "Kentucky Bourbon".

I found a record of a Japanese panel dismissing an appeal by US interests seeking to prevent the use of the term “Japanese bourbon”. It is sort of like the NFL Commissioner to have the power to determine sanctions for the owners that pay him, but there you go.

In reality "Tennessee Whiskey" is just a Bourbon by a different name. There is nothing in the distilling and aging process that would prevent Jack Daniels and others from calling their whiskey Bourbon. The reason for "Tennessee Whiskey" is that the owner of Jack Daniels distillery (not sure if it was Jack himself or Lem) wanted to distinguish their whiskey from the abundant Bourbons and lobbied for the distinct naming of "Tennessee Whiskey". basically a marketing gimmick.

Well, really that’s what all geographic indications are.

driver100

@explorerx4
After failing at crashing to the ground he was too tired and drained to run back up 8 stories.

stickguy

probably something that is going to become a bigger issue for a lot of brands. I got an Email today from Acura notifying me there was going to be an OTA update pushed within the next 2 weeks. And it needed to be installed by 2/22 or various functionality would go away, including the automatic dialing 911 in an accident. And the rest of the concierge type stuff (acura link). Though pretty sure I don't actually need any of it since I let all the subscriptions lapse. And could probably risk not having anything happen in case of an accident.

all due to the shutting down of the 3 G networks.

if you don't load the update by them, they say you need to go to a dealer and pay to have a new embedded cellular device installed. I imagine that is very expensive, and few people would pay for it. Probably should be covered under warranty IMO.

ronsteve

@ab348 said:
"Bourbon" is a protected term in some countries but not others. It is a mess, actually, because the US government has been lax in pushing for protection internationally, although there is some. However, Japan has not accepted the US position historically and so there is at least the possibility of "Japanese bourbon" being found on the shelves.

Strangely, the US industry must share part of the blame. While "Tennessee whisky" (mostly in reference to Jack Daniels, but now there are other brands too) is seemingly well-protected by law, the term "Kentucky bourbon" is on shakier ground given that much of it is actually produced at a massive distillery in Indiana these days and then shipped by tanker to Kentucky for barreling and aging. So while it is aged in Kentucky, it might not be made there, weakening the case for geographic protection of the Kentucky bourbon name. These days bourbon-like whisky is made throughout the US so if the federal government sought to protect the name they would need to seek a definition that covered national production, which would be very difficult.

@ab348 said:
Only a few.

https://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-kudos/industry-news/whisky-brands-that-are-made-at-mgp/

That’s a nice long list of off brand bourbons there.

Bourbon actually is protected in the States by an Act of Congress dating back to 1964. The mash bill is defined, aging process, proof going into the barrel, plus the fact that anything sold in the States as bourbon has to be made in the States. And 95% of the world’s bourbon is made in Kentucky. Which it has to be if it’s labeled “Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.”

venture

I was looking at Land Rovers, particularly the Discovery. I noticed that one of the 22" wheels they offer as an option has a retail price of $5,434.84.

That's 84 cents over my budget. I wonder if they will negotiate that?

stickguy

Optional wheels are usually wildly overpriced. Especially considering they keep the old ones too.

ab348

Woke up this AM to a splash screen from MS when I started this PC trying to get me to install Windows 11. Not the thing you want to see/do first thing in the morning so I declined. They still tried to convince me after doing that and sort of suggested that I might not have another chance to do so, which I doubt, but whatever. I have seen/heard nothing that would convince me that going to 11 right now would be in any way useful or necessary. I am not a fan of Win 10 and this just seems like more change for the sake of change at the moment. I wonder what the acceptance rate of it is.

oldfarmer50

venture said:

I was looking at Land Rovers, particularly the Discovery. I noticed that one of the 22" wheels they offer as an option has a retail price of $5,434.84.

That's 84 cents over my budget. I wonder if they will negotiate that?

Wow, and I thought the dealer asking $1600 for Mustang wheels was a rip off.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

Only in Florida:
Florida Man Drives Mustang off 8-Story Parking Garage

Police in central Florida are investigating after a man drove a Ford Mustang off the top floor of an 8-story parking garage Monday afternoon.

Tavares Police Lt. Sarah Coursey said Jewels Sartin landed in a fenced area between the garage and a bank and then fled on foot, Inside Lake reported.

He was captured shortly afterward and taken to a hospital for his injuries.

“The safety cables did play a role and slow the vehicle down,” Coursey said.

Tavares Police Detective Courtney Sullivan told WOFL investigators don’t yet know a motive.



Maybe we could test oldfarmers Mustang and see how it holds up?
Investigators don't know the motive! Is there a motive or did it just happen?
He ran away so the car held up pretty well....considering, 8 stories!

Is that a Fox body? OK, I read down further and it’s a 2006 so it’s a S197.

Only in Florida.

Driving a Mustang off a roof is such a waste. This is more of how a Mustang should be driven:

https://youtu.be/nJ3-0yIxrJQ

stickguy

Something came up on my laptop indicating it wasn’t able to update to win 11. And I don’t think it’s all that old, and was pretty high spec at the time.

Fine by me. I’ll stay on 10 indefinitely.

explorerx4

There is a guy on YT who shows you how to get around the not upgradeable message.
He installed it on some old stuff.

venture

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:

I was looking at Land Rovers, particularly the Discovery. I noticed that one of the 22" wheels they offer as an option has a retail price of $5,434.84.

That's 84 cents over my budget. I wonder if they will negotiate that?

Wow, and I thought the dealer asking $1600 for Mustang wheels was a rip off.

Well...I was actually referring to the 84 cents. You would think they would round it up to $5,435 like everyone else does.

jmonroe1

@venture said:
I was looking at Land Rovers, particularly the Discovery. I noticed that one of the 22" wheels they offer as an option has a retail price of $5,434.84.

That's 84 cents over my budget. I wonder if they will negotiate that?

Are they more round than the standard overpriced wheels?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

@ab348 said:
Woke up this AM to a splash screen from MS when I started this PC trying to get me to install Windows 11. Not the thing you want to see/do first thing in the morning so I declined. They still tried to convince me after doing that and sort of suggested that I might not have another chance to do so, which I doubt, but whatever. I have seen/heard nothing that would convince me that going to 11 right now would be in any way useful or necessary. I am not a fan of Win 10 and this just seems like more change for the sake of change at the moment. I wonder what the acceptance rate of it is.

Got a pop up like that 2 days ago. I just closed the request but was expecting to see it again. So far they’re ignoring me. Should I feel bad about this?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

@venture said:
Well...I was actually referring to the 84 cents. You would think they would round it up to $5,435 like everyone else does.

Then that would be an obvious ripoff. They know where to draw the line.

jmonroe

imidazol97

Today is National Wright Brothers Day.

imidazol97

And National Maple Syrup Day.