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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    abacomike said:

    Got some bad news from my doctors this morning. I have a 2 cm wound opening in my back at the top of the surgical incision. It was infected so I completed a 10 day high dose of amoxicillin on Friday. But the wound is not healing and needs Debridement to remove dead tissues preventing healing. It may require me to go back into the hospital as this is usually done in the OR.

    I’ll know more tomorrow morning when I see the neurosurgeon. I just can’t get a break. In addition my pain in my back is a bit worse than it was prior to surgery. My guess is he will want to do a fusion of L3, L4 and L5 vertebrae. I’m pretty depressed over this. 😩

    Sorry to hear that.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358

    GM has Super Cruise, their 'autonomous driving' technology and Ford has Blue Cruise, which I'm not sure is available yet. The Mach E is supposed to be upgradeable to Blue Cruise if it has Co-Pilot360.

    If your car has an "autonomous driving" feature and you miss a few payments will it drive itself to the finance company?
    Yes, with the owner in it at gun point. Shooting a poor innocent car does nothing to stop a deadbeat from doing it again.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,454

    They do, or did every time I was over there.

    I think on much or most of German highways, sections are replaced rather than holes patched, costs a lot but does a lot. Those gas taxes go somewhere.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    abacomike said:

    @driver100 said:

    I have to check it out but a friend said his friend is getting a 2022 MB S550 and it has voice steering. If you tell it to turn right it will turn right at the next street.

    What could possibly go wrong................

    Can’t be a 2022 S550 - it’s an S500 or S580.


    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    @tjc78 said:
    Hey Mike. You’ve owned a recent S and now the Genesis flagship. How would you compare the two? If they cost the same which one would you buy?

    That’s a difficult question to answer, tjc. I loved the S450 for it’s ride and handling as well as it’s technology and styling. The G90 has a number of advantages over the S450 - free maintenance including oil and filters, wipers, brakes, alignment, belts etc., for 3 years as well as a 5 year 60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. The G90 is easier to enter and get out of due to its size and height off the ground. Seats are more comfortable.

    In summary, I prefer the G90 over the S Class because it’s $40,000 less in cost for a car that is at the minimum equivalent to the Mercedes. It’s an impressive vehicle for the money.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    abacomike said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @qbrozen said:

    Speaking of computer driver …. What the heck is up with car companies advertising hands free driving? Anyone see the Ford commercial where a Mach-e driver sets lane keep and takes his hands off the wheel? The car won’t let you do that. After about 10 secs, it starts beeping at you. Another 5 secs and it beeps louder and faster. I haven’t tried yet to push it past that to see what happens.

    And there is another that irritates me, but I’m not even sure what car it is for. The driver sets it and starts clapping the beat to a song. WTH?

    The clapping with hands off the steering wheel is GMC or Chevy. IIRC. Really odd that they advertise that. I could never trust auto drive.

    My auto-steering system requires that my hand “not” be off the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds. If the car’s computer system senses that I have not held the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds, an audio chime sounds and disconnects autonomous steering and cruise control until my hand(s) is on the steering wheel again. It then resets autonomous steering and cruise control.

    The Mercedes did the same thing but had a shorter interval (15 seconds IIRC).


    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,010

    @abacomike said:

    @tjc78 said:
    Hey Mike. You’ve owned a recent S and now the Genesis flagship. How would you compare the two? If they cost the same which one would you buy?

    That’s a difficult question to answer, tjc. I loved the S450 for it’s ride and handling as well as it’s technology and styling. The G90 has a number of advantages over the S450 - free maintenance including oil and filters, wipers, brakes, alignment, belts etc., for 3 years as well as a 5 year 60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. The G90 is easier to enter and get out of due to its size and height off the ground. Seats are more comfortable.

    In summary, I prefer the G90 over the S Class because it’s $40,000 less in cost for a car that is at the minimum equivalent to the Mercedes. It’s an impressive vehicle for the money.

    I saw a G90 the other day. It is one nice car, I certainly wouldn’t mind owning one.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,315
    edited December 2021
    venture said:




    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    The system steers you directly into the nearest tree or pole. A teachable moment. :)

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    I see the area MB store has 4 S580s (2022) in stock. I'll have to run by and see which one I want. B):D
    (Store is in GG and KyfdX's area).

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    @venture said:
    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    As I stated, the autonomous driving system is functional only if a hand(s) is on the steering wheel within the 30 second time limit. If it does not sense a hand(s), it will disengage or won’t engage when you attempt to initiate the system.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    Hang in there- you are the subject of a lot of thoughts and prayers.

    Indeed! +100!
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.

    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @abacomike said:

    @venture said:
    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    As I stated, the autonomous driving system is functional only if a hand(s) is on the steering wheel within the 30 second time limit. If it does not sense a hand(s), it will disengage or won’t engage when you attempt to initiate the system.

    Sort of defeats the purpose of self driving cars.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    @snakeweasel said:

    @abacomike said:

    @venture said:
    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    As I stated, the autonomous driving system is functional only if a hand(s) is on the steering wheel within the 30 second time limit. If it does not sense a hand(s), it will disengage or won’t engage when you attempt to initiate the system.

    Sort of defeats the purpose of self driving cars.

    When I engage the autonomous driving system, I am always on an interstate or the Florida Turnpike traveling at 65 mph. First, I engage blind spot monitors and lane-keeping-assist. Then I turn on cruise control and set it at 65 mph. Autonomous drive automatically engages once I have set the speed.

    I must put my directional signal on when in autonomous drive if I want to change lanes - the lane keeping system is paused until I complete the lane change - it re-engages once the directional signal is disengaged.

    The car maintains a set distance from traffic in front and slows or brakes if too close. It steers inside marked lanes. All I do is maintain touching the steering wheel.

    I like the autonomous drive on the highway because it reduces the need for input to maintain the speed and direction of the car.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358
    venture said:

    abacomike said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @qbrozen said:

    Speaking of computer driver …. What the heck is up with car companies advertising hands free driving? Anyone see the Ford commercial where a Mach-e driver sets lane keep and takes his hands off the wheel? The car won’t let you do that. After about 10 secs, it starts beeping at you. Another 5 secs and it beeps louder and faster. I haven’t tried yet to push it past that to see what happens.

    And there is another that irritates me, but I’m not even sure what car it is for. The driver sets it and starts clapping the beat to a song. WTH?

    The clapping with hands off the steering wheel is GMC or Chevy. IIRC. Really odd that they advertise that. I could never trust auto drive.

    My auto-steering system requires that my hand “not” be off the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds. If the car’s computer system senses that I have not held the steering wheel for more than 30 seconds, an audio chime sounds and disconnects autonomous steering and cruise control until my hand(s) is on the steering wheel again. It then resets autonomous steering and cruise control.

    The Mercedes did the same thing but had a shorter interval (15 seconds IIRC).


    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    According to @stickguy it moves your knees into position.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,433
    You can Tesla cheat and hang a weight on the wheel! Or yoke for them I guess?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358

    @driver100 said:

    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.

    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.


    Not to argue but I think it would be better judging from some of the mindless drivers I’ve seen.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited December 2021
    I hope everyone realizes the sequential steps after level 5 control by gov
    regulations is control of car speed and operation. In other words,
    no going above the speed limit signs the car recognizes from the camera
    or from the GPS.

    So no more arguing about speed limits. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

    I can just hear the songs put out about the awful speed limits
    and how boring it is to drive the speed limit.

    There was a 50 mph speed limit that I recall for passenger cars.
    Think how much fuel that would SAVE!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law#:~:text=As an emergency response to,limit for trucks and buses.

    I Can't Drive 55

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358
    abacomike said:

    @snakeweasel said:

    @abacomike said:

    @venture said:

    What happens if you don't put your hand(s) on the wheel?

    As I stated, the autonomous driving system is functional only if a hand(s) is on the steering wheel within the 30 second time limit. If it does not sense a hand(s), it will disengage or won’t engage when you attempt to initiate the system.

    Sort of defeats the purpose of self driving cars.

    When I engage the autonomous driving system, I am always on an interstate or the Florida Turnpike traveling at 65 mph. First, I engage blind spot monitors and lane-keeping-assist. Then I turn on cruise control and set it at 65 mph. Autonomous drive automatically engages once I have set the speed.

    I must put my directional signal on when in autonomous drive if I want to change lanes - the lane keeping system is paused until I complete the lane change - it re-engages once the directional signal is disengaged.

    The car maintains a set distance from traffic in front and slows or brakes if too close. It steers inside marked lanes. All I do is maintain touching the steering wheel.

    I like the autonomous drive on the highway because it reduces the need for input to maintain the speed and direction of the car.


    When I was teaching Son #1 how to drive I remember him asking me how to use cruise control and I told him, “when you use cruise control you’re not really driving…you’re aiming”. Eventually I showed him how it worked but much later when he showed me he knew how to drive.

    Fast forward to when he was teaching his oldest Son how to drive and his Son asked him the same question. His answer was the same as what I told him. My Son said he couldn’t wait to drop that line onto his kids when the time came. It got to be the joke in their house so when his second Son was learning to drive I was kidding my Grandson about that and he said to me, “there is NO WAY I’m going to ask him that question”. It will also ruin that line for when he teaches his third Son how to drive.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358

    I hope everyone realizes the sequential steps after level 5 control by gov
    regulations is control of car speed and operation. In other words,
    no going above the speed limit signs the car recognizes from the camera
    or from the GPS.

    So no more arguing about speed limits. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

    I can just hear the songs put out about the awful speed limits
    and how boring it is to drive the speed limit.

    There was a 50 mph speed limit that I recall for passenger cars.
    Think how much fuel that would SAVE!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law#:~:text=As an emergency response to,limit for trucks and buses.

    I Can't Drive 55

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k

    I’m sure we all know our poster buddy @andres3 is going to be the poster child riling against that feature. :@

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,315
    I don't know if I could trust self-driving either. I know I get bothered by the lane-keep assist in the ATS tugging on the wheel against me sometimes.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,762
    I've been enjoying watching Sandy Munro's trip in a Model S Plaid, but there have been a couple of hiccups in self driving mode.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    I hope everyone realizes the sequential steps after level 5 control by gov
    regulations is control of car speed and operation. In other words,
    no going above the speed limit signs the car recognizes from the camera
    or from the GPS.

    So no more arguing about speed limits. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

    I Can't Drive 55

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k

    Is it considered music if the guy is yelling at the top of his lungs, and if the band sounds like a jet engine taking off?
    They'll probably have a control on self driving cars......do you want to go 10%, 15% 20% etc over the posted speed?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,315
    FWIW, Edmunds just declared the 2022 Mercedes S-Class to be their top-rated luxury sedan:

    https://www.edmunds.com/top-rated/luxury-sedan

    Oddly enough, the lack of the Mercedes star in the grille makes it look like a Hyundai:


    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @driver100 said:

    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.

    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.


    I would say the same, but statistically self-driving cars are probably a lot safer.

    As an example; Yesterday I was headed north in the left lane, 2 lanes going north, speed limit 50 mph.
    btw...I have to be in the left lane because I have to turn left in less than a mile.
    A guy in a Buick Enclave is riding my rear bumper, I am keeping up with the flow of traffic and there is a car in front of me.
    Of course, I knew what the Buick guy would do....the first chance he got he jumped into the right lane, sped up to get ahead of me, and then wedged himself into the space in front of me (if I wasn't such a nice guy I would have cut him off from doing that - but I figure I'll let him be the jerk he is).
    What was really funny was I was turning left just ahead, I move into the left turning lane, I get an advanced green light, he is sitting at the light right where he would have been anyway.
    In his case, a self-driving car would make the roads safer for everyone!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,433
    I don’t even think my wife knows how to use cruise control. I don’t think she ever has. And I know for sure she doesn’t understand the ACC on the current car.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,315
    stickguy said:

    I don’t even think my wife knows how to use cruise control. I don’t think she ever has. And I know for sure she doesn’t understand the ACC on the current car.

    That isn't just a male/female thing though. I remember when I was a kid, my Dad used to drive me crazy with some of his moves as a driver. If it was cold in the car and you asked him to put on some heat, every control would go to full blast and stay there until you pleaded with him to shut it off. And if it started to rain, the wipers would always be set to maximum speed before he would eventually turn them off.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    edited December 2021

    @driver100 said:
    Is it considered music if the guy is yelling at the top of his lungs, and if the band sounds like a jet engine taking off?
    They'll probably have a control on self driving cars......do you want to go 10%, 15% 20% etc over the posted speed?

    Well that, as well as disco, are not music.

    They are pushing making cars incapable of exceeding the speed limit or having them do something annoying if you do.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    @driver100 said:

    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.

    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.


    Well, considering some of the bonehead moves humans pull, you could argue that. That being said I don’t know how you can program a computer for every contingency. What about an unexpected patch of ice for example.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    I would say the same, but statistically self-driving cars are probably a lot safer.

    As an example; Yesterday I was headed north in the left lane, 2 lanes going north, speed limit 50 mph.
    btw...I have to be in the left lane because I have to turn left in less than a mile.
    A guy in a Buick Enclave is riding my rear bumper, I am keeping up with the flow of traffic and there is a car in front of me.
    Of course, I knew what the Buick guy would do....the first chance he got he jumped into the right lane, sped up to get ahead of me, and then wedged himself into the space in front of me (if I wasn't such a nice guy I would have cut him off from doing that - but I figure I'll let him be the jerk he is).
    What was really funny was I was turning left just ahead, I move into the left turning lane, I get an advanced green light, he is sitting at the light right where he would have been anyway.
    In his case, a self-driving car would make the roads safer for everyone!

    Well in that case you anticipated the guy doing that stupid move and adjusted to it. what would have happened if your car was in a self driving mode?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @ab348 said:
    That isn't just a male/female thing though. I remember when I was a kid, my Dad used to drive me crazy with some of his moves as a driver. If it was cold in the car and you asked him to put on some heat, every control would go to full blast and stay there until you pleaded with him to shut it off. And if it started to rain, the wipers would always be set to maximum speed before he would eventually turn them off.

    My wife is like that with the A/C, she must think it has two settings.... off and full forced artic blast.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358
    ab348 said:

    FWIW, Edmunds just declared the 2022 Mercedes S-Class to be their top-rated luxury sedan:

    https://www.edmunds.com/top-rated/luxury-sedan

    Oddly enough, the lack of the Mercedes star in the grille makes it look like a Hyundai:


    Depends on the looker. I think it looks better. ;)

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited December 2021
    driver100 said:

    @driver100 said:

    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.


    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.


    I would say the same, but statistically self-driving cars are probably a lot safer.
    As an example; Yesterday I was headed north in the left lane, 2 lanes going north, speed limit 50 mph.
    btw...I have to be in the left lane because I have to turn left in less than a mile.
    A guy in a Buick Enclave is riding my rear bumper, I am keeping up with the flow of traffic and there is a car in front of me.
    Of course, I knew what the Buick guy would do....the first chance he got he jumped into the right lane, sped up to get ahead of me, and then wedged himself into the space in front of me (if I wasn't such a nice guy I would have cut him off from doing that - but I figure I'll let him be the jerk he is).
    What was really funny was I was turning left just ahead, I move into the left turning lane, I get an advanced green light, he is sitting at the light right where he would have been anyway.
    In his case, a self-driving car would make the roads safer for everyone!
    Another GM story... LOL

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited December 2021
    .

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    ab348 said:

    I don't know if I could trust self-driving either. I know I get bothered by the lane-keep assist in the ATS tugging on the wheel against me sometimes.

    I agree. When I drove my wife's Ascent a few times she asked me why I was swerving. It was the lane keep thingy. I turned it off. (Shhhh. She doesn't know).

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170

    @ab348 said:

    That isn't just a male/female thing though. I remember when I was a kid, my Dad used to drive me crazy with some of his moves as a driver. If it was cold in the car and you asked him to put on some heat, every control would go to full blast and stay there until you pleaded with him to shut it off. And if it started to rain, the wipers would always be set to maximum speed before he would eventually turn them off.

    My wife is like that with the A/C, she must think it has two settings.... off and full forced artic blast.


    I was with Mrs. venture yesterday in her car. The setting for climate was on HI - both sides. I made the mistake of asking why. She said she controls it with the fan speed. You would think we would learn.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    @driver100 said:

    Right, S580 I believe and I believe the 2021 has Level 3 driving ability, the 2022 will have Level 4:

    Level 3 basically means that the car can take complete control of the vehicle and drive it to your destination. The vehicle can recognize road signs, prevent collisions, keep you in the right lane, keep a safe distance from vehicles all around you, and even parallel park for you in some cases.

    While this level could allow you to take your attention away and do other things, it still requires you to be ready to take back control if something happens. According to Jalopnik, the vehicle will alert you ahead of time, and you need to take over pretty quickly. If not, it will start to slow down and come to a complete halt safely.

    Level 4 is almost the same as Level 3, but you don’t need to pay as much attention to the road. We haven’t seen Level 5 yet when the car completely drives itself, and you sit in it as if you were being taxied about.


    I don't know if I could trust a self driving car. I really dont think one can do the anticipation that a human mind can do.


    I would say the same, but statistically self-driving cars are probably a lot safer.
    As an example; Yesterday I was headed north in the left lane, 2 lanes going north, speed limit 50 mph.
    btw...I have to be in the left lane because I have to turn left in less than a mile.
    A guy in a Buick Enclave is riding my rear bumper, I am keeping up with the flow of traffic and there is a car in front of me.
    Of course, I knew what the Buick guy would do....the first chance he got he jumped into the right lane, sped up to get ahead of me, and then wedged himself into the space in front of me (if I wasn't such a nice guy I would have cut him off from doing that - but I figure I'll let him be the jerk he is).
    What was really funny was I was turning left just ahead, I move into the left turning lane, I get an advanced green light, he is sitting at the light right where he would have been anyway.
    In his case, a self-driving car would make the roads safer for everyone!
    Another GM story... LOL
    I just report what I see....no bias.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ....and I am not sure why MrsD100 drives with the a/c on and the sunroof open, and is considering an electric car next time to save the planet!
    Maybe if everyone did this the whole town could be air conditioned.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    FWIW, Edmunds just declared the 2022 Mercedes S-Class to be their top-rated luxury sedan:

    https://www.edmunds.com/top-rated/luxury-sedan

    Oddly enough, the lack of the Mercedes star in the grille makes it look like a Hyundai:

    Good point. The inside isn't too shabby:



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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    driver100 said:



    Good point. The inside isn't too shabby:


    2 screens for all functions, 3-spoke steering wheel, diamond-pattern seats ... reminds me of my mach-e.


    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,358
    qbrozen said:

    driver100 said:



    Good point. The inside isn't too shabby:


    2 screens for all functions, 3-spoke steering wheel, diamond-pattern seats ... reminds me of my mach-e.


    Some buyers are getting screwed.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,433
    Using climate (heat or AC)with a convertible top down is pretty common. I used to drive in winter weather top down quite often. Keep windows up and put heat to the floor setting, and stay quite toasty. Can do the same in the summer using AC.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,315
    qbrozen said:


    2 screens for all functions, 3-spoke steering wheel, diamond-pattern seats ... reminds me of my mach-e.

    Except on the Benz the seat cushion tilts. :D

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    ab348 said:

    stickguy said:

    I don’t even think my wife knows how to use cruise control. I don’t think she ever has. And I know for sure she doesn’t understand the ACC on the current car.

    That isn't just a male/female thing though. I remember when I was a kid, my Dad used to drive me crazy with some of his moves as a driver. If it was cold in the car and you asked him to put on some heat, every control would go to full blast and stay there until you pleaded with him to shut it off. And if it started to rain, the wipers would always be set to maximum speed before he would eventually turn them off.
    Apparently he was digital before it was cool, or at least useful.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,433
    tjc78 said:

    @venture said:

    I agree. When I drove my wife's Ascent a few times she asked me why I was swerving. It was the lane keep thingy. I turned it off. (Shhhh. She doesn't know).

    My wife hates the lane keep assist on her XC90. She always complains. I told her to stay in the lane and it won’t bother you… That naturally started a fight


    You can usually turn it off. The RDX is a little annoying but I think it is just a warning (wheel shake) but doesn’t steer you back. That I can turn off (also takes out the ACC option). I just don’t bother.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    qbrozen said:

    driver100 said:



    Good point. The inside isn't too shabby:


    2 screens for all functions, 3-spoke steering wheel, diamond-pattern seats ... reminds me of my mach-e.


    That does look similar.
    It looks like those 3 dudes in the front of the car are getting ready to roll you!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    edited December 2021
    tjc78 said:

    @venture said:

    I agree. When I drove my wife's Ascent a few times she asked me why I was swerving. It was the lane keep thingy. I turned it off. (Shhhh. She doesn't know).

    My wife hates the lane keep assist on her XC90. She always complains. I told her to stay in the lane and it won’t bother you… That naturally started a fight


    A rookie move. Ya just hate to see it.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,433
    My wife almost never drives at this point anyway so I don’t have to hear much from her.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

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