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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247
    10-15% off on discontinued models at this late date? Doesn't seem like enough. Especially when half the reason for getting high end luxury is to have the newest and the bestest.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    10-15% off on discontinued models at this late date? Doesn't seem like enough. Especially when half the reason for getting high end luxury is to have the newest and the bestest.
    If I buy a 2017 the dealer will take off 3%. One years depreciation is going to be at least 15%. I seem to be trading cars every 3 or 4 years unless something changes (can't go to Florida for health reasons, retirement funds are affected by stock market, a Nigerian Prince needs my bank account so he can wire me a few $100 million) so it just wouldn't make sense. If you keep a car for 10 years, you would probably come out ahead, I think at least 6 or 7 years minimum to come out ahead.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    thebean said:



    Threw on a coat of Zaino on the Cobra yesterday. Looks good for old paint.


    https://flic.kr/p/KVBQe6

    Very nice!  I love me some Zaino.  Nice monkey pics also following the Cobra pics. B)
    Cobra looks great....monkey is cute. GG, I think we got your whole photo album there, not sure you wanted to send it all! (I stopped when I realized what was happening) ;)
    Forget that, he posted his license plate. Now obsessed Edmunds posters will be tracking him down and stalking him. Didn't he ever look at a CL ad? ;)

    Isn't there something about if you post a picture, the bad guys can figure out your location anyway, even without a license plate?

    When, and if, I ever get my new car I'll have to drive it out of town and take my pictures there.

    The only way they can get your location is if there is some landmark in the background that tips them off or your camera has GPS and is set to record the location where the picture is taken. So if you are taking the pictures using your phone turn off the location function.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    thebean said:



    Threw on a coat of Zaino on the Cobra yesterday. Looks good for old paint.


    https://flic.kr/p/KVBQe6

    Very nice!  I love me some Zaino.  Nice monkey pics also following the Cobra pics. B)
    Cobra looks great....monkey is cute. GG, I think we got your whole photo album there, not sure you wanted to send it all! (I stopped when I realized what was happening) ;)
    Forget that, he posted his license plate. Now obsessed Edmunds posters will be tracking him down and stalking him. Didn't he ever look at a CL ad? ;)

    Isn't there something about if you post a picture, the bad guys can figure out your location anyway, even without a license plate?

    When, and if, I ever get my new car I'll have to drive it out of town and take my pictures there.
    The only way they can get your location is if there is some landmark in the background that tips them off or your camera has GPS and is set to record the location where the picture is taken. So if you are taking the pictures using your phone turn off the location function.

    Thanks, I will go by that. BTW, I have made a note to get a dash cam when I get a new car!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,333
    driver100 said:


    Thanks, I will go by that. BTW, I have made a note to get a dash cam when I get a new car!


    Then the bad guys will know where you are all the time!!!! ;)

    Speaking of which, I thought you were traveling to Switzerland?

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    driver100 said:


    Thanks, I will go by that. BTW, I have made a note to get a dash cam when I get a new car!


    Then the bad guys will know where you are all the time!!!! ;)

    Speaking of which, I thought you were traveling to Switzerland?
    Leaving tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. Might not be here too much for 2 weeks. Zurich, Bern, Innsbruck mostly.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congratulations! So did you trade one of your cars or is this in addition to the Audi and Golf?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Would you call someone who leases a Kia a Kia convert, or, do they have ta actually purchase a new Kia ta be considered a bonafide Kia convert? Regardless of what might be the answer to that question, congrats andres3!

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247
    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    Congrats on the new ride. Looks good in the pearl white.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,528

    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    He leased the Optima to daily drive it & keep the miles off his TTS.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247
    nyccarguy said:

    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    He leased the Optima to daily drive it & keep the miles off his TTS.
    Makes sense, I do the same thing with a fleet of beaters.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    edited September 2016

    nyccarguy said:

    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    He leased the Optima to daily drive it & keep the miles off his TTS.
    Makes sense, I do the same thing with a fleet of beaters.

    Yes, the bank account couldn't justify keeping the former S4 as a "beater" as you call it. However, the TTS really is a fun toy, and will be relegated to non-work day duty for the most part.

    The Optima isn't cheap, being new and a lease, but my dabbling in the used Honda and Acura market didn't net any acceptable deals. Those two makes just don't lose hardly any value regardless of miles or years. Still, I think the Optima will save me money in the long run, as it allows me to not waste top of the line tire rubber slogging in rush hour traffic.

    I kept the Wife's Golf TDI, and the TTS isn't going anywhere anytime soon (barring an act of God or negligent driver ruining it *knock on wood* that doesn't ever happen). The wife is leaning towards having the TDI bought back, but that'll happen next Spring if that's what she chooses. Might as well get our money's worth on the non-refundable State's yearly licensing and registration fees.

    I love the TTS (especially tuned to work like it is supposed to work). I can see keeping that toy for a long, long time. Especially if it as reliable the next 80K miles as it was the first 8K miles.

    Even with the stock wheels and tires, and my experienced "spirited" driving in canyon carving and on the track, I really can't see going any faster on public roadways than I can already go. I'd have to memorize every turn on a highway to go any faster. :smile:
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938

    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    It's a limo compared to the TTS. I can almost put the TTS in the trunk of the Optima if I fold the seats down :open_mouth:

    Amazingly, Kia has lightened the chassis of the Optima to get within a few pounds of the TTS! That's how they are able to achieve those very high EPA numbers on fuel economy. It is also why it handles so well for a big mid-sizer sedan!
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    andres3 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    andres3 said:

    For those of you who don't follow other forums or threads, I've now become a first time Korean car leaser with the '16 Kia Optima LX Turbo.

    It has a turbo and a dual clutch that should net more than 30 MPG in mixed driving. It is a Florida car configuration, pearl white with a beige cloth interior.

    Would have just bought a used '14 Accord Sport but the fish weren't biting on my offers. Kia was hungrier.

    Congrats on your punch. Isn't that a step down from a TT?

    He leased the Optima to daily drive it & keep the miles off his TTS.
    Makes sense, I do the same thing with a fleet of beaters.

    Yes, the bank account couldn't justify keeping the former S4 as a "beater" as you call it. However, the TTS really is a fun toy, and will be relegated to non-work day duty for the most part.

    The Optima isn't cheap, being new and a lease, but my dabbling in the used Honda and Acura market didn't net any acceptable deals. Those two makes just don't lose hardly any value regardless of miles or years. Still, I think the Optima will save me money in the long run, as it allows me to not waste top of the line tire rubber slogging in rush hour traffic.

    I kept the Wife's Golf TDI, and the TTS isn't going anywhere anytime soon (barring an act of God or negligent driver ruining it *knock on wood* that doesn't ever happen). The wife is leaning towards having the TDI bought back, but that'll happen next Spring if that's what she chooses. Might as well get our money's worth on the non-refundable State's yearly licensing and registration fees.

    I love the TTS (especially tuned to work like it is supposed to work). I can see keeping that toy for a long, long time. Especially if it as reliable the next 80K miles as it was the first 8K miles.

    Even with the stock wheels and tires, and my experienced "spirited" driving in canyon carving and on the track, I really can't see going any faster on public roadways than I can already go. I'd have to memorize every turn on a highway to go any faster. :smile:
    Congrats on your labor day purchase. Love the Optima it is a very nice car. A couple years ago I had one as a loaner and it was great, albeit a little noisy. I am sure with improvements over the years road and engine noise have been hushed. Enjoy the ride.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    edited September 2016

    driver100 said:

    thebean said:



    Threw on a coat of Zaino on the Cobra yesterday. Looks good for old paint.


    https://flic.kr/p/KVBQe6

    Very nice!  I love me some Zaino.  Nice monkey pics also following the Cobra pics. B)
    Hmmmm...the pics of the Cobra are mine, but not the other ones. Wonder what went wrong?
    Somebody had a pretty good vacation! :D
    There's only one other person who had access to that account, and she ain't around any more.

    :smile:
    So that's not you and your ex on that cruise?


    OF...I didn't dig too deeply on the pics until now. There were some on there that were from years ago of she and I. I'll look again. There are some pics that weren't mine and certainly weren't familiar. I didn't see any pics of monkeys.

    How do you post some, but not all pics on those sites? I should know this given I'm in the tech field. Apparently, I don't!

    I should have dug a little deeper. Sorry for the confusion.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247

    driver100 said:

    thebean said:



    Threw on a coat of Zaino on the Cobra yesterday. Looks good for old paint.


    https://flic.kr/p/KVBQe6

    Very nice!  I love me some Zaino.  Nice monkey pics also following the Cobra pics. B)
    Hmmmm...the pics of the Cobra are mine, but not the other ones. Wonder what went wrong?
    Somebody had a pretty good vacation! :D
    There's only one other person who had access to that account, and she ain't around any more.

    :smile:
    So that's not you and your ex on that cruise?
    OF...I didn't dig too deeply on the pics until now. There were some on there that were from years ago of she and I. I'll look again. There are some pics that weren't mine and certainly weren't familiar. I didn't see any pics of monkeys.

    How do you post some, but not all pics on those sites? I should know this given I'm in the tech field. Apparently, I don't!

    I should have dug a little deeper. Sorry for the confusion.

    No need for apologies. I was just wondering if that was you so that when I trace you from your license plate I know who to stalk....or who to ask for a ride in the Cobra ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    OF.....you're welcome to ride anytime. I'll even let you put down some rubber with it (which it does quite well).
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,686

    OF.....you're welcome to ride anytime. I'll even let you put down some rubber with it (which it does quite well).

    Nice wax job on the Mustang. Made me want to wax my cars over the weekend, but I was down with a sinus infection, LOL.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited September 2016

    2017 Kia Rio

    This is the new Kia Rio debuting at the Paris Auto Show, September 29, 2016. How close this picture comes to the actual new body design will be clarified in France.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    Probably exactly.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    Missed out on a big Labor Day Sale, but had a fun weekend anyway.


    Regarding digital pictures, unless you turn the feature off, it records the longitude and latitude.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,847
    I turn off GPS location tracking on all cameras in our house - iPhones, iPads, SLRs, etc - I do not want that floating around when we post pictures.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    Missed out on a big Labor Day Sale, but had a fun weekend anyway.

    So did I.



    It's a beautiful city from the water.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    I turn off GPS location tracking on all cameras in our house - iPhones, iPads, SLRs, etc - I do not want that floating around when we post pictures.

    My SLR doesn't have GPS and I only have it on on my phone when I am on vacation otherwise it's off.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,288
    Forget that ... I just read that you'll be able to get the Challenger with AWD!

    Pony cars for everyone up north!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247

    I turn off GPS location tracking on all cameras in our house - iPhones, iPads, SLRs, etc - I do not want that floating around when we post pictures.

    Where on the iPad would you go to check? No cell so no worries there and I don't even know what a SLR is so I'm guessing I don't have one of those either.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,247
    Michaell said:

    Forget that ... I just read that you'll be able to get the Challenger with AWD!

    Pony cars for everyone up north!
    You could probably buy two for the cost of the 8 cyl. Turbo but what about the snob appeal?

    BTW, how's the new job coming?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,288

    Michaell said:

    Forget that ... I just read that you'll be able to get the Challenger with AWD!

    Pony cars for everyone up north!
    You could probably buy two for the cost of the 8 cyl. Turbo but what about the snob appeal?

    BTW, how's the new job coming?
    My fear is that the Challenger will only offer the AWD with the V6, like the Charger.

    New job is going well .. was in CA last week. The to do list is growing daily. The fun of having two managers!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,367
    Michaell said:



    Forget that ... I just read that you'll be able to get the Challenger with AWD!

    Pony cars for everyone up north!

    Or better yet, buy a set of winter tires and learn how to drive...

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,367
    Well, my job has at least one perk- I lightly curbed the RF wheel(so lightly I didn't even know I did it), and I had it repaired by the guy who does all wheel repairs for the dealer. Total cost? $40

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    I turn off GPS location tracking on all cameras in our house - iPhones, iPads, SLRs, etc - I do not want that floating around when we post pictures.

    Where on the iPad would you go to check? No cell so no worries there and I don't even know what a SLR is so I'm guessing I don't have one of those either.

    SLR means Single Lens Reflex, it's a type of camera where when you look through the viewfinder you are actually looking through the lens. It's the type of camera that professionals use where they can switch out lenses.


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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    Michaell said:

    Forget that ... I just read that you'll be able to get the Challenger with AWD!

    Pony cars for everyone up north!
    didn't they already make an AWD pony car? Only it was called a Jeep SRT? It was at the car show last Sunday drag racing and winning due to the HEMI + AWD + other mods.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-porsche-911-gt2-driver-201045571.html

    Driver dealt with a high speed tire blowout like a boss. Also notice how the slowpokes move out of the way and move right to allow passing on the left. It's like magic.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Chicago has some very nice architecture Snake. I always felt that two of the nicest skylines to fly over are Chicago and Miami. Going into LaGuardia, New York City is massive and impressive, but I don't think it is really all that aesthetic, other than central park in the middle of it all. It is a good city though and LGA can challenge you whether using the runway or just getting to it from the highways sometimes.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    andres3 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-porsche-911-gt2-driver-201045571.html

    Driver dealt with a high speed tire blowout like a boss. Also notice how the slowpokes move out of the way and move right to allow passing on the left. It's like magic.

    Is he limping along (surely not on runflats) at the end instead of pulling off on the shoulder - you know, when he looks to be "only" going 40 or 50 and grabs his phone?
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130

    Missed out on a big Labor Day Sale, but had a fun weekend anyway.

    So did I.



    It's a beautiful city from the water.
    One of my favorite views of one of my favorite cities. The River Walk area really has turned out nicely.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    stever said:

    andres3 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-porsche-911-gt2-driver-201045571.html

    Driver dealt with a high speed tire blowout like a boss. Also notice how the slowpokes move out of the way and move right to allow passing on the left. It's like magic.

    Is he limping along (surely not on runflats) at the end instead of pulling off on the shoulder - you know, when he looks to be "only" going 40 or 50 and grabs his phone?
    Proves my point that people only text and talk on their phones when they are driving under 100 MPH. Raise the speed limits, raise safety by less distracted driving.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    stever said:

    andres3 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-porsche-911-gt2-driver-201045571.html

    Driver dealt with a high speed tire blowout like a boss. Also notice how the slowpokes move out of the way and move right to allow passing on the left. It's like magic.

    Is he limping along (surely not on runflats) at the end instead of pulling off on the shoulder - you know, when he looks to be "only" going 40 or 50 and grabs his phone?
    I guess great minds think alike at least ours do.

    That grabbing for the cell phone without getting off the road completely is what stood out to me also. I think the Porsche car gods would yank your license if you couldn't drive one handed at less than 100 MPH although this scaredy cat was only going, as you said, about 40 or 50 MPH.

    The only time I have ever been on the ground going around 200 MPH was when I was in the Navy and we were practicing higher than normal touch and go landing speeds in a C-130. I have never felt the need for autobahn speeds, so a trip to Germany would be a waste for me but Son #1 would like to try it and has said a couple of times..."someday".

    That pulling over to right to allow the faster moving cars to pass is purely a survival strategy, not a courtesy.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Proves my point that people only text and talk on their phones when they are driving under 100 MPH. Raise the speed limits, raise safety by less distracted driving.

    I'd hate ta think that legislation is going to have ta be needed that bans cellular phones in cars completely, but, well...maybe it'll be required. Takes away too much of the usefulness of the device, doesn't it? Might need some sort of electronic part installed that "sniffs out" any cell phones in the car and disalloys starting the car with cells inside it.

    Ughh. But this problem with distracted driving isn't going ta go away, unfortunately.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    There will never be a law passed to ban handheld phone use in cars.  The cell phone lobby will stop that.  We normal folks have no chance against the stinkin' lobbyists on any issue.  Such a shame our country has come to this.  It's just like other countries where open bribery is the norm.  
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    Missed out on a big Labor Day Sale, but had a fun weekend anyway.

    So did I.



    It's a beautiful city from the water.
    One of my favorite views of one of my favorite cities. The River Walk area really has turned out nicely.
    Our nephew has a condo in a building right on the north branch of the Chicago river. There is a small marina there where you can rent small boats. That's what we did on Sunday.


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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    Proves my point that people only text and talk on their phones when they are driving under 100 MPH. Raise the speed limits, raise safety by less distracted driving.

    I'd hate ta think that legislation is going to have ta be needed that bans cellular phones in cars completely, but, well...maybe it'll be required. Takes away too much of the usefulness of the device, doesn't it? Might need some sort of electronic part installed that "sniffs out" any cell phones in the car and disalloys starting the car with cells inside it.

    Ughh. But this problem with distracted driving isn't going ta go away, unfortunately.

    So does that mean I have to leave my phone at home in order to go anywhere?

    Does that mean when I arrive at the airport pull out my Uber app and call up a ride and when I get in the car the poor mans (or womans) car goes dead unless I leave my phone at the airport?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,333
    thebean said:

    There will never be a law passed to ban handheld phone use in cars.  The cell phone lobby will stop that.  We normal folks have no chance against the stinkin' lobbyists on any issue.  Such a shame our country has come to this.  It's just like other countries where open bribery is the norm.  

    It is in effect here in Nova Scotia and I think is pretty common in most provinces of Canada that you cannot use a handheld phone while driving. Of course, we are a nanny state here.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    thebean said:

    There will never be a law passed to ban handheld phone use in cars.  The cell phone lobby will stop that.  We normal folks have no chance against the stinkin' lobbyists on any issue.  Such a shame our country has come to this.  It's just like other countries where open bribery is the norm.  

    There are many jurisdictions where handheld phone use is illegal.

    I have a smart watch which I can use to answer my phone when it rings simply by saying "answer" (saying "reject" sends it to voicemail) and then using the watch as a speaker phone. so my question is, is it still hands free if it's attached to my wrist?

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    thebean said:

    There will never be a law passed to ban handheld phone use in cars.  The cell phone lobby will stop that.  We normal folks have no chance against the stinkin' lobbyists on any issue.  Such a shame our country has come to this.  It's just like other countries where open bribery is the norm.  

    At this point, I don't even know that a law would stop those who cannot put their phones down anywhere, much less behind the wheel. Living in a college town, I'm kind of surprised we don't have more car-car and car-pedestrian interactions given how "connected" everyone seems to be.
  • fordfoolfordfool Member Posts: 240
    thebean said:

    There will never be a law passed to ban handheld phone use in cars.  The cell phone lobby will stop that.

    I'd favor an electronic signal that would disable a cell phone in a car unless the
    transmission was in Park and the same with the visual display of a GPS.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    What, I can't play pinball on my phone while riding shotgun?
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