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Fun story though, reminds me of people in the cringe-worthy commercial who think the Malibu is some kind of Tesla-Audi hybrid.
For the depreciation aspect, I think late model used is a smarter long term buy for most cars. If you're going to keep for just a few years, highline cars are better to lease than buy.
Give the legal stuff a few decades to catch up and then let's talk.
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jmonroe
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Smoking weed in public should be treated with the same social contempt as cigs. I don't want to inhale either.
Nobody should care about breaking unjust irrelevant laws created by overpaid corrupt goons. Sometimes, disobedience is the only path to progress.
Bogus argument given that two are legal and widely available, advertised, and socially acceptable (at least cigs were until recently) and the other was illegal, black market, and used only by those who did not care about breaking the law.
Give the legal stuff a few decades to catch up and then let's talk.
Fin said: "Nobody should care about breaking unjust irrelevant laws created by overpaid corrupt goons. Sometimes, disobedience is the only path to progress."
You may be surprised to find (as I was) that public opinion research tends to find about 20% of the populace favors alcohol prohibition, around half +/- favor weed prohibition, and slightly less (around 40% give or take, with a big split between smokers and nonsmokers) favor cigarette prohibition. You may not like it, but others do not all share your views on "progress".
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So this is a difficult for me to admit here among my friends here of whom are all "drivers" and "car guys." I made a potentially deadly mistake which I have seen before on the news and have said to myself: "how does this happen?" Now usually the person is quite intoxicated.
Sunday AM, I am getting back on the NJ Turnpike from Route 73. There are 4 Tolls. After the tolls there are signs that say "NY & North" pointing to the Left and "DE and South" pointing to the right. I went through the toll. I see the divider to go left is pretty close to the toll, so I go left. I ended up driving down the Exit ramp and almost on on the NJ Turnpike going the WRONG WAY! I wasn't on the phone or playing with the radio or even talking to my kids. IN NY & CT, there are these big, red signs that say WRONG WAY. I'm still shaking just thinking about it. Thank-God it was Sunday AM and nobody was coming on the off ramp.
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Most people who are on the wrong side of history don't realize it at the time.
Maybe the pot DUIs (which needs to happen now) can compensate for the lack of funds from EV road taxes and trickle down policy.
The other was ages ago, when I was a student, coming back across the US/Canada border from hockey, 3 other guys and stuff loaded in the fintail - nothing unusual about that. It was after midnight, pretty dark (not as well-lit, this was back before the borders became so tight I guess), and I drove down a closed border lane, not noticing until I was a ways down. I had to back up to get into an open lane. The guys in the car thought for sure the border agent would think I was drunk, but they didn't say a word. Pretty funny now.
A couple years back a person intentionally drove the wrong way on I70 about 10 miles east of I75 and intentionally hit a gasoline tanker truck.
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Wow! Scary, to be sure, would be an understatement! If I was in the driver's seat that night instead of you, I would have s--t a brick and would have needed to stop the car, get out of the driver's seat and get down on my knees to pray. Not something I would want to experience!
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So what's wrong with praying?
jmonroe
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Scary NYC but I think we have all had some lucky breaks to have made it this far in life. It just takes a second of inattention or confusion to miss something. Just be thankful and more careful....treat it as a warning sign to to try to be even more attentive.
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The Genesis V8 is no "knock-off" of anything I am aware of except perhaps the G90 (formerly the Equus)! I drove one last year and, for the money, it's in a class of its own - luxurious, fast and pretty stylish - except for the grillework on the new models.
I don't know how well the Genesis G80 maintains its handling and performance after 3-5 years, but I'd be willing to give it a try (if I didn't have to deal with that over-the-top grillework) - a bit too much flair for my tastes. I also would prefer the 6 cylinder with a turbo for down here in "flat" Florida. But in PA with all those hills and mountains, the V8 might be necessary.
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I sure wish I felt better so I could take them up on their offer. They have another venue just south of Palm Springs, CA. That would be a great winter get-away.
I am also entitled to a complete BMW detail of my 740i once each year. I just have to call and make an appointment with my service advisor and they will drop off a loaner for the day and pick up my car - then return my car at the end of the day and pick up the loaner. Nice "pampered" touch!
Mercedes never offered me stuff like this!
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Yeh, that guy is out of it almost as much as JMonroe. That guy should buy a Genesis since he doesn't know what he he is driving anyway....he's wasting a beautiful Mercedes when he could get the knock off version!
I don't know how well the Genesis G80 maintains its handling and performance after 3-5 years, but I'd be willing to give it a try (if I didn't have to deal with that over-the-top grillework) - a bit too much flair for my tastes. I also would prefer the 6 cylinder with a turbo for down here in "flat" Florida. But in PA with all those hills and mountains, the V8 might be necessary
It is a good car and certainly a great value.....but, it isn't quite the same as the real thing. I will quote Edmunds which praises the Genesis 80, but says it is lacking compared to the segment leaders;
Just like last year's Genesis, nothing can match the G80's value for the money. But there are better luxury sedans if you're willing to pay more. The sporty Cadillac CTS comes to mind, as does the refined and supple Lexus GS 350. If you have extra-deep pockets, the BMW 5 Series is a perennial favorite, and the new Mercedes-Benz E-Class will floor you with its meticulously crafted cabin. The G80 might not have the panache or brand recognition of these rivals, but you also won't have to take out a second mortgage just to get a truly desirable midsize luxury sedan
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I love the comment, "...if you have extra-deep pockets..."! Of course there are better cars if you're willing to pay $10,000+ more! I could be living on a 12 acre parcel with a beautiful mansion if I was willing to pay $30 million, give or take a few bucks - but I'm not willing to part with that kind of money - my financial advisor would have a stroke!
You can always buy better if you're willing to spend more!
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Ya think?!
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Anyway, apparently he's an accountant and loves to crunch the numbers. So he calculated what it cost him to drive that car 9,000 miles in 16 months. He included everything, including the loss when he sold it.
Cost per mile? $13 per.
Yes, the decimal is in the right place.
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I don't know how well the Genesis G80 maintains its handling and performance after 3-5 years, but I'd be willing to give it a try (if I didn't have to deal with that over-the-top grillework) - a bit too much flair for my tastes. I also would prefer the 6 cylinder with a turbo for down here in "flat" Florida. But in PA with all those hills and mountains, the V8 might be necessary
It is a good car and certainly a great value.....but, it isn't quite the same as the real thing. I will quote Edmunds which praises the Genesis 80, but says it is lacking compared to the segment leaders;
Just like last year's Genesis, nothing can match the G80's value for the money. But there are better luxury sedans if you're willing to pay more. The sporty Cadillac CTS comes to mind, as does the refined and supple Lexus GS 350. If you have extra-deep pockets, the BMW 5 Series is a perennial favorite, and the new Mercedes-Benz E-Class will floor you with its meticulously crafted cabin. The G80 might not have the panache or brand recognition of these rivals, but you also won't have to take out a second mortgage just to get a truly desirable midsize luxury sedan
I love the comment, "...if you have extra-deep pockets..."! Of course there are better cars if you're willing to pay $10,000+ more! I could be living on a 12 acre parcel with a beautiful mansion if I was willing to pay $30 million, give or take a few bucks - but I'm not willing to part with that kind of money - my financial advisor would have a stroke!
You can always buy better if you're willing to spend more!
And you can drive something that costs half the price of a 750....like say a Fusion. Will it drive as nicely as the 750? What good is paying less, if you don't have to pay less, and settling an inferior product?
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I am seriously addicted to peanut butter! I used to love Skippy but then I found Jiff Crunchy.....is that ever good stuff. I have to have a some every day.
I think we have covered just about every other topic and product, but have we ever tackled the pros and cons of smooth vs crunchy, and what is the best brand?
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Becoming a peanut butter addict is not an easy task. It takes a very special person with "...powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men - who can change the course of mighty rivers - bend steel in his bare hands...!" Yes, it takes a Superman to take the time to taste every brand of peanut butter - creamy and crunchy - and become so awed at the sugary, peanutty and pasty sludge that can somehow coat the roof of your mouth so that you can't speak or talk - and then arrive at a "best in class" brand of creamy and crunchy sludge.
I've been there and done that - and Peter Pan heads my list of the very best. I do, on occasion, share it with a slice of white sandwich bread with my sweetheart - Lois Lane!
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Smuckers Natural in our house. Only peanuts and salt. There is some work involved in that you have to mix it upon opening, but it is worth it. The trick we found is to store it upside-down in the pantry prior to opening.
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The only thing I store upside down is my Dijon Mustard in the squeeze bottle. I put it on the fridge door shelf. I just never get "all" the mustard out of a squeeze bottle - but storing it upside down is the best way of getting most of it out of the plastic bottle.
As for peanut butter, I find that it is tastier at room temperature than at fridge temperature. My Peter Pan jar is in the fridge once I open it, but I take it out of the fridge and let it warm up to close to room temperature.
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The first vehicles had just been dropped off when we toured the lot with the GSM; he indicated that every mile put on the McLaren would reduce the value by $100.
Not sure if that's truth or hyperbole.
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I'd venture a guess he is way off. First, nobody is coming in and knocking $100 off their offer on a new McLaren that has 1 mile on the odometer or $300 off for 3 miles, etc. "I need to get $1000 off my new $190k car, please get me one with 10 miles on it." Second, when the car is purchased, it is depreciating a HELL of a lot more than $100 for that first mile.
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"And you can drive something that costs half the price of a 750....like say a Fusion. Will it drive as nicely as the 750? What good is paying less, if you don't have to pay less, and settling an inferior product?"
Wow!
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I thought dropping $50K-$60K on a car was my reward. True, I may have picked the wrong car (more true than not). But, I'm not certain I'll drop that kind of money on a car again. Not sure there's one that is worth that amount (or more). Maybe if I had bought a 5 or 7 Series....maybe an E Class, I would feel differently. And, those of you who have those cars, I love when you post pics of them and give your driving impressions.
Maybe I'm just jealous because my experiences in that price range weren't nearly as good as yours?
Not sure.
But, when I was test driving recently, there are some cars that sell for much less, that are really good. Loved the Accord Touring. Not sure there's much else you could ask for in a car (if you're not autox, towing, or racing). And, it's $20K...even $30K less than the others I mentioned. Was just as surprised with the Toyota Avalon. Not a sports car by any means. All the luxury and tech you could possibly want in a car.....all for less than $40K.
Haven't driven the new A/S4s recently, or the 3/5 Series since they've been updated. Might change my tune if they're much better than before.
My Q50 is a blast. Would I enjoy a Q70 even more? Don't know.
Anyway, no point to this rambling post. Just something I've thought about the last few months.
Then there's this....more fun per dollar than I can ever remember having while clothed....
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Taken while preparing for a local car show. Friend of mine lives in the area and she let me use her driveway while giving the Cobra it's final detail touchups before the show got under way.
Good point about price too. I've always looked at fancier stuff, but could never justify stretching the budgetvthat much, and lived just fine at cheaper levels. The RDX was really the only splurge, and that was still only about $32k.
If I want a larger, more luxo, hot rod sedan this next time, the maxima will get a serious look. Huge bang for the discount buck! Or maybe a used Bradd mobile of some sort. Given how little I drive, anything could work!
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I had good luck with the no-name stuff before and it was on sale so I bought a jar of the crunchy (I am going thru a transition from a smooth to a crunchy consumer). When I got it home I opened it. I think it might be the best I ever tasted. It was really good. I suspect it was a Red Wing product based on the style of the jar:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/dining/how-red-wing-became-william-f-buckley-jrs-favorite-peanut-butter.html?_r=0
I do not like Kraft. I used to like Skippy when I was younger but seemed to lose my taste for it, or they changed the formula. Jif was just introduced here, replacing Skippy in most places. When it eventually goes on sale I will try it. I'm not paying $6 for a jar of PB. Unlike @driver100 I am not made of money to buy ritzy PB or designer toilets.
Like @carnaught I am sensitive to peanuts. A few spoons of PB are OK but too much makes me feel poorly. And eating handfuls of actual peanuts really messes up my innards.
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