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    gsfsportsgsfsports Member Posts: 4
    edited March 2015
    Hello, was looking to finalize this deal in Florida for MDX FWD Tech package, 36 months / 10K

    MSRP: $47960.00
    Cap cost: $42150.00
    Tag & Title: + $275
    Dealer Fee: +$600
    Adjusted Cap cost : $43025.00
    Residual: $28776.00 (60%)
    MF: 0.00055

    0 due at signing. 35 payments of $448 + 6% tax.

    Should I finalize this? Thank you
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gsfsports said:

    Hello, was looking to finalize this deal in Florida for MDX FWD Tech package, 36 months / 10K

    MSRP: $47960.00
    Cap cost: $42150.00
    Tag & Title: + $275
    Dealer Fee: +$600
    Adjusted Cap cost : $43025.00
    Residual: $28776.00 (60%)
    MF: 0.00055

    0 due at signing. 35 payments of $448 + 6% tax.

    Should I finalize this? Thank you

    I confirm the MF and residual.

    However, when I plug in your MSRP and Adjusted Cap Cost, I get a pre-tax payment of $435.30/mo

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    gsfsportsgsfsports Member Posts: 4
    Thanks Michaell!! Will try to work with the dealer for final numbers. Does it look like a good deal or I can do better than this?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gsfsports said:

    Thanks Michaell!! Will try to work with the dealer for final numbers. Does it look like a good deal or I can do better than this?

    I don't track transaction prices, sorry.

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    fsudreyer2fsudreyer2 Member Posts: 15
    Michael/gfsports,

    What dealer did you get that price from in FL. I'm in S. FL
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    mkgcmcmkgcmc Member Posts: 14
    Looking at the following deal in PA on a 2015 MDX SH-AWD Tech:

    Lease Term: 36 months/10K miles

    MSRP: $49,960
    Net Cap Cost: $51653.50 (includes negative equity from current lease)

    Residual: $29,976
    Money Factor: .00055
    Title & Registration Fees: $273.15
    Acquisition Fee: $595

    Cash Down: $1,639.40 (covers fees + first payment)

    Cost: $711.75/month


    When I run this myself using the Edmunds tool, I get about $685/month. Did I miss something, or does their calculation look right?
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    eddiesteddiest Member Posts: 25
    How much was your negative equity? Just want to see if your getting a good sales price.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    mkgcmc said:

    Looking at the following deal in PA on a 2015 MDX SH-AWD Tech:

    Lease Term: 36 months/10K miles

    MSRP: $49,960
    Net Cap Cost: $51653.50 (includes negative equity from current lease)

    Residual: $29,976
    Money Factor: .00055
    Title & Registration Fees: $273.15
    Acquisition Fee: $595

    Cash Down: $1,639.40 (covers fees + first payment)

    Cost: $711.75/month


    When I run this myself using the Edmunds tool, I get about $685/month. Did I miss something, or does their calculation look right?

    I'm getting $647.06/mo pre-tax; with 10% tax (ouch!), that number jumps to $711.77. Pretty much in-line with the dealer quote.

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    mkgcmcmkgcmc Member Posts: 14
    eddiest said:
    How much was your negative equity? Just want to see if your getting a good sales price.
    They want to cut a check for the remaining payments ($4394.50) in lieu of giving me a trade in to reduce that. I haven't really negotiated yet, that's just the starting price they gave me. I just wanted to understand how they got to the monthly before I get back to them.
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    gsfsportsgsfsports Member Posts: 4

    Michael/gfsports,

    What dealer did you get that price from in FL. I'm in S. FL

    This is in Tampa- Ferman Acura..

    Thanks Michaell, finally settled down for $425, Dealer gave me all weather mats and 3 free oil changes.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gsfsports said:

    Michael/gfsports,

    What dealer did you get that price from in FL. I'm in S. FL

    This is in Tampa- Ferman Acura..

    Thanks Michaell, finally settled down for $425, Dealer gave me all weather mats and 3 free oil changes.
    Congratulations - enjoy the new Acura!

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    gxjosegxjose Member Posts: 15

    Michael/gfsports,

    What dealer did you get that price from in FL. I'm in S. FL

    Where in South Florida? Trying to work out a deal at Acura Pembroke Pines tonight. I'll see what they offer me on a 36mo/15K lease.
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    gxjosegxjose Member Posts: 15
    kyfdx said:

    codytho said:

    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?

    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gxjose said:

    kyfdx said:

    codytho said:

    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?

    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
    MF stays the same at .0005, 36/15 residual for 2WD Tech is 57%

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    gxjosegxjose Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?
    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
    MF stays the same at .0005, 36/15 residual for 2WD Tech is 57%
    After negotiations, quoted payment was $528 including 6% tax on 36 mo/15k year lease with trade in credit of $1,825. Other costs included acquisition of 595, dealer fee of 699 and tag costs (almost $1,500 in total). Negotiated price was around $43,600 (msrp 47,960). Walked out. I still feel they could've done better. Thoughts?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gxjose said:


    Michaell said:

    gxjose said:

    kyfdx said:

    codytho said:

    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?

    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
    MF stays the same at .0005, 36/15 residual for 2WD Tech is 57%

    After negotiations, quoted payment was $528 including 6% tax on 36 mo/15k year lease with trade in credit of $1,825. Other costs included acquisition of 595, dealer fee of 699 and tag costs (almost $1,500 in total). Negotiated price was around $43,600 (msrp 47,960). Walked out. I still feel they could've done better. Thoughts?

    That dealer fee is pretty high - is this Florida?

    How was the $1825 in trade credit being applied?

    Make sure they are using the base MF on you; keep an eye on all parts of the deal.

    Can't tell you if the negotiated price is good or not - not my forte.

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    gxjosegxjose Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?
    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
    MF stays the same at .0005, 36/15 residual for 2WD Tech is 57%
    After negotiations, quoted payment was $528 including 6% tax on 36 mo/15k year lease with trade in credit of $1,825. Other costs included acquisition of 595, dealer fee of 699 and tag costs (almost $1,500 in total). Negotiated price was around $43,600 (msrp 47,960). Walked out. I still feel they could've done better. Thoughts?
    That dealer fee is pretty high - is this Florida? How was the $1825 in trade credit being applied? Make sure they are using the base MF on you; keep an eye on all parts of the deal. Can't tell you if the negotiated price is good or not - not my forte.
    Thank you for your feedback. I'm in South Florida. On their computer workout sheet, the trade in was reflected as a cap reduction. I confirmed the MF and Residual. I used a online lease calculator and my numbers were of by 15 or so a month compared to theirs using the same figures. Don't know if I was doing something wrong. 
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    gxjose said:


    Michaell said:

    gxjose said:


    Michaell said:

    gxjose said:

    kyfdx said:

    codytho said:

    Looking for feedback. 2015 MDX Tech AWD msrp 49,462. Sell offer 45,700. I'm looking for a 36 mo 15k located in Minneapolis, MN. What residual should I expect and MF?

    .00055 MF and 57% residual.
    Looking at the 2015 2wd tech with MSRP of 47,960 for 36/15k. Can you please confirm the MF and Residual value. thank you for your help.
    MF stays the same at .0005, 36/15 residual for 2WD Tech is 57%

    After negotiations, quoted payment was $528 including 6% tax on 36 mo/15k year lease with trade in credit of $1,825. Other costs included acquisition of 595, dealer fee of 699 and tag costs (almost $1,500 in total). Negotiated price was around $43,600 (msrp 47,960). Walked out. I still feel they could've done better. Thoughts?
    That dealer fee is pretty high - is this Florida?

    How was the $1825 in trade credit being applied?

    Make sure they are using the base MF on you; keep an eye on all parts of the deal.

    Can't tell you if the negotiated price is good or not - not my forte.

    Thank you for your feedback. I'm in South Florida. On their computer workout sheet, the trade in was reflected as a cap reduction. I confirmed the MF and Residual. I used a online lease calculator and my numbers were of by 15 or so a month compared to theirs using the same figures. Don't know if I was doing something wrong. 

    We don't recommend using trade equity as a cap cost reduction - if the vehicle is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

    Could be a fee hidden in the paperwork that is causing the difference in payments - about $500 or so total if the delta is $15/mo.

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    eddiesteddiest Member Posts: 25
    Any April numbers for mdx awd tech package with 10k MI 36 mo.  Any cash? 

    Thanks! 
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    eddiest said:

    Any April numbers for mdx awd tech package with 10k MI 36 mo.  Any cash? 

    Thanks! 

    Current Acura numbers are valid until 5/11/15.

    MDX AWD Tech 36/10 - 60% and .00055

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    gordonf238gordonf238 Member Posts: 13
    Hi Everyone,
    I've been negotiating with a local dealer, and got the following as the best offer:
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    2015 AWD Tech, 36/10 lease:
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    MSRP (excludes destination): $48,900
    Negotiated price: $46,600

    Due at signing:
    --------------------------------------
    Down Payment: $5000
    Sales Tax: 8.875% (NYC): $1790
    DMV fees: $300
    Acquisition: $595
    Dest. Charge: $920
    Dealer Fees: $300
    --------------------------------------------
    Total Due at Signing (incl. first mo. payment): $9284
    --------------------------------------------
    Monthly Payments: $380/mo, 36 months, 10k miles a year.

    All of the above is based on 60% residual, and 0.00055MF.

    Can someone please check my math and give me a thumbs up on whether I should sign the lease?

    Many thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967

    Hi Everyone,
    I've been negotiating with a local dealer, and got the following as the best offer:
    --------------------------------------
    2015 AWD Tech, 36/10 lease:
    --------------------------------------
    MSRP (excludes destination): $48,900
    Negotiated price: $46,600

    Due at signing:
    --------------------------------------
    Down Payment: $5000
    Sales Tax: 8.875% (NYC): $1790
    DMV fees: $300
    Acquisition: $595
    Dest. Charge: $920
    Dealer Fees: $300
    --------------------------------------------
    Total Due at Signing (incl. first mo. payment): $9284
    --------------------------------------------
    Monthly Payments: $380/mo, 36 months, 10k miles a year.

    All of the above is based on 60% residual, and 0.00055MF.

    Can someone please check my math and give me a thumbs up on whether I should sign the lease?

    Many thanks!

    We do not recommend making a down payment on a lease; if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

    With your numbers, subtracting the down payment, I get a payment of $521.21. $5000 down / 36 months = $139/mo, so the net payment is $382.21/mo,or very close to your dealer quote.

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    How do I turn off notifications so that I don't get an email every time someone posts a message?
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    gordonf238gordonf238 Member Posts: 13
    Hi Michael, thank you for your response. I'll probably end-up putting at least $2500 down. Understood about the loss in case of theft. Willing to take that chance. Prefer monthly payments below $500/mo.

    On a side note, are the residuals on 2016s MDX models any different for the same AWD-Tech trim? That being 60%? Thanks again.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967

    Hi Michael, thank you for your response. I'll probably end-up putting at least $2500 down. Understood about the loss in case of theft. Willing to take that chance. Prefer monthly payments below $500/mo.

    On a side note, are the residuals on 2016s MDX models any different for the same AWD-Tech trim? That being 60%? Thanks again.

    60% for 36/15 on 2016 MDX AWD Tech.

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,252
    larryb23 said:

    How do I turn off notifications so that I don't get an email every time someone posts a message?

    Click on your member name to go to your home screen..

    Then, click on the silhouette of head/shoulders on upper right hand corner and choose, EDIT PROFILE.

    Then, look for notification preferences on left hand side of page.

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    gordonf238gordonf238 Member Posts: 13
    Michaell,
    Thanks for the prompt response. Can I assume that residual for 2016 MDX AWD Tech for a 36/10 would be 62% then? With the same MF?
    You guys are awesome, thanks for all your efforts!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967

    Michaell,
    Thanks for the prompt response. Can I assume that residual for 2016 MDX AWD Tech for a 36/10 would be 62% then? With the same MF?
    You guys are awesome, thanks for all your efforts!

    Yes and Yes

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    senate747senate747 Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:

    senate747 said:

    Lease Review Please:

    NY 2015 - ACURA - AWD RDX
    36X10K
    MSRP : $37,200
    $3,038.71 Down includes tax,first month, bank fee, Plate Transfer
    $329 a month

    Thoughts?

    What is the selling price? Any of the $3K going to cap cost reduction?
    329 - First Month Payment
    595 - BankFee
    735 - P-Fee/CapCost
    1152.21 - tax
    -------------------------------
    12.50 - NYS Tire Recycle
    75.00 - Dealer Processing Fee
    10.00 - NYS Inspection
    130.00 - NYS Transfer Registration Fee

    The selling price before negotiation was 37,200.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    senate747 said:

    Michaell said:

    senate747 said:

    Lease Review Please:

    NY 2015 - ACURA - AWD RDX
    36X10K
    MSRP : $37,200
    $3,038.71 Down includes tax,first month, bank fee, Plate Transfer
    $329 a month

    Thoughts?

    What is the selling price? Any of the $3K going to cap cost reduction?
    329 - First Month Payment
    595 - BankFee
    735 - P-Fee/CapCost
    1152.21 - tax
    -------------------------------
    12.50 - NYS Tire Recycle
    75.00 - Dealer Processing Fee
    10.00 - NYS Inspection
    130.00 - NYS Transfer Registration Fee

    The selling price before negotiation was 37,200.
    What was the selling price after negotiation?

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    adie153adie153 Member Posts: 10
    Accura 2015 MDS SH AWD base Lease questions
    36mon/10 K
    Net sale price: 47918
    money factor: 0.0005
    Buyout: 27867
    Residual: 61 %
    Down payment: 0 down payment, (2000$ for taxes, fee and other charges.)
    Monthly payment: 490/month
    Is it a descent deal
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    adie153 said:

    Accura 2015 MDS SH AWD base Lease questions
    36mon/10 K
    Net sale price: 47918
    money factor: 0.0005
    Buyout: 27867
    Residual: 61 %
    Down payment: 0 down payment, (2000$ for taxes, fee and other charges.)
    Monthly payment: 490/month
    Is it a descent deal

    I'm getting $552/mo with your numbers, so your quote of $490/mo looks pretty good by comparison.

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    adie153adie153 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks for reply. I am trying to make sure as well that these numbers add up accurately. These numbers were given by sale person.
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    gordonf238gordonf238 Member Posts: 13
    I'm sorry, did the MF just jump from .0005 to .00167? I was under the impression that .0005 was good until the end of April for top-tier credit ratings. That's a jump from 1.2% interest rate to 3.84%, translating to a monthly payment increase of roughly $82/month in my case. I may have to look at other models, namely Buick Enclave which offer much better interest rates.
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    eddiesteddiest Member Posts: 25
    2015 rates is good.  The 2016 rate is the higher one. 
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    metahimetahi Member Posts: 42
    hi looking for MF and Residual for 2015 and 2016 MDX AWD tech 10K miles/year in MA - thank you!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    metahi said:

    hi looking for MF and Residual for 2015 and 2016 MDX AWD tech 10K miles/year in MA - thank you!

    36/10 numbers:
    2015 - 60% and .00055. $500 lease cash.
    2016 - 63% and .00170 (standard MF)

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    mpressivempressive Member Posts: 9
    Looking for MF, residual for AWD, Tech & Ent, 36/10 in Md. Any incentives??

    Tx
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    mpressive said:

    Looking for MF, residual for AWD, Tech & Ent, 36/10 in Md. Any incentives??

    Tx

    .00055 and $500 lease cash

    36/10 AWD Tech + Ent residual = 59%

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    mpressivempressive Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    Looking for MF, residual for AWD, Tech & Ent, 36/10 in Md. Any incentives??

    Tx
    .00055 and $500 lease cash 36/10 AWD Tech + Ent residual = 59%
    Thank you!!
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    mpressivempressive Member Posts: 9

    mpressive said:
    Michaell said:
    Looking for MF, residual for AWD, Tech & Ent, 36/10 in Md. Any incentives??

    Tx
    .00055 and $500 lease cash 36/10 AWD Tech + Ent residual = 59%
    Thank you!!
    For those that have purchased a 2016 AWD what has been the discount from MSRP on average?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    mpressive said:



    mpressive said:


    Michaell said:

    mpressive said:

    Looking for MF, residual for AWD, Tech & Ent, 36/10 in Md. Any incentives??

    Tx

    .00055 and $500 lease cash

    36/10 AWD Tech + Ent residual = 59%

    Thank you!!

    For those that have purchased a 2016 AWD what has been the discount from MSRP on average?

    I'm sorry, you were asking for the 2016 numbers?

    I gave you 2015.

    .00170 MF and 62% for 2016

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    cnote2cnote2 Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2015
    Need 2015 MDX AWD base mf and residual 36/39m 15k. Any lease cash? Northeast
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    cnote2 said:

    Need 2015 MDX AWD base mf and residual 36/39m 15k. Any lease cash? Northeast

    58% / 56% and .00055. $500 lease cash.

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    eddiesteddiest Member Posts: 25
    When negotiating the selling price does that include the acquisition fee?  I remember my last lease I negotiated a selling price.  They listed that under "agreed upon value of the vehicle". But under gross capitalized cost they listed the price agreed upon  plus the acquisition fee.  Is this because I wanted minimum drive off so they rolled it in? 


    Any input on which selling price I'm negotiating? 

    Thanks! 
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,252
    eddiest said:

    When negotiating the selling price does that include the acquisition fee?  I remember my last lease I negotiated a selling price.  They listed that under "agreed upon value of the vehicle". But under gross capitalized cost they listed the price agreed upon  plus the acquisition fee.  Is this because I wanted minimum drive off so they rolled it in? 


    Any input on which selling price I'm negotiating? 

    Thanks! 

    The acquisition fee is always going to be additional to the selling price you negotiate. You can pay it upfront or roll it in.. they don't care, either way.

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    crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    edited April 2015
    Looking for MF and residual for a 2015 SH-AWD MDX with Advanced and Entertainment package in FL for a 36/15K lease. TIA.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    crikey said:

    Looking for MF and residual for a 2015 SH-AWD MDX with Advanced and Entertainment package in FL for a 36/15K lease. TIA.

    .00055 and 55%

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    crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    Michaell said:

    .00055 and 55%

    Thanks. 55% is kinda low, right? Do you know of a better term with a higher residual in the 36 to 40 month neighborhood?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,967
    crikey said:

    Michaell said:

    .00055 and 55%

    Thanks. 55% is kinda low, right? Do you know of a better term with a higher residual in the 36 to 40 month neighborhood?
    You picked the highest trim level, which has the lowest residual. Base AWD has a 36/15 residual of 58% by comparison.

    Also, with the 2016's already out, the values of the 2015's will naturally sink.

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