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and yes, unfortunately, it does appear that although as a rule Honda makes quality cars, when they don't, they refuse to stand by them, and worse yet, they train their employees to blame the consumer. Edmunds recent long term wrap up notes that rotors were warped at 13k miles. my car only has 11k miles, and Honda tells me it is my fault.
can't help you with the transmission problem, my 03 EX V6 shifts fine. i don't use rear defrosters so i am not sure if it has a timer.
good luck with your problems! i feel for ya!
If it's easilly noticed then it's easy to fix.
It's the one that rattle "sometimes" on "certain roads" under "certain conditions" that are a real pain especially when we can't get them to rattle.
Rainy days aren't the best to check for them with all of the extra road noise.
it is up to the consumer to buy the car that has the features that he/she wants. seems pretty cut and dry to me....
a quality control issue is a rattle, leak, or faulty mechanical/electrical part. a missing feature doesn't seem like a quality control glitch. unless all Accords except one had a keyhole in passenger door of course....
End of discussion. Agree to disagree.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Did he really say that?
If he did, boy your lawyer is going to have a great time.
>>>Does anyone else's seat move forward and then back again when braking hard? They told me that's normal. <<<
how hard?
Having no timer does not bother me.
The service dept. only does oil change or minor services (i.e. coolant
service) on Sats.
i would say it it doesn't turn off, then your car isn't equipped with a auto-off defroster. i would HOPE that Honda could master a simple thing like that, if they meant to.
I must say though that it hasn't really mattered in the past.
I have a '98 Accord and the security system has never failed. I suspect that if its a big deal to a person than they will find the same missing door lock on many other new cars and be equally disappointed. What I really miss is the trunk lock.
It seems that the rest of us are satisfied with the primary system of a keyless remote and a single lock on the driver's side as a backup. Perhaps not perfect, but the "all systems" failure scenarios seem very unlikely to us, so we're not concerned.
If Honda monitors these forums, one of the rationales presented for bringing this topic up over and over again, those who consider this a problem have expressed that opinion strenuously and repeatedly. So if Honda is ever to be made aware of those concerns through these forums, they certainly would have to be aware of them now. They'd have to be comatose not to be.
Obviously, nobody from either camp is having any influence on the other camp, and that's not going to change. So can we agree to disagree, stop beating this dead horse and move on?
Nothing is going over my head. What should Honda have done? Maybe they should have taken an ad out in all local newspapers anouncing there was no key cylinder on the passenger side. Maybe they should give all Accord owners a pamphlet anouncing this same fact. Or maybe they should have bought air time on all local channels. Or someone could just thoroughly check out the car they are buying before signing on the dotted line. I have no sympathy for someone who can spend 2 hours posting about the intricacies of oil and carbon build-up but doesn't spend the same time researching what is the 2nd largest purchase in most American households.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
How long do Accord brakes typically last? About 60% of my driving is highway.
When your "I'm done" statement comes packaged along with your own final shot, you haven't ended anything.
I am taking it back to the dealer on Friday and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this issue.
I am at a loss for figuring out how they are going to correct this issue short of installing a new trunk lid or taking the car back, since there are now 4 misplaced holes in my trunk lid.
o springy or bully clutch (when releasing clutch after shifting from 1st to 2nd)
o pulsations in steering wheel when braking
o flaws in interior finish (miscut floor coverings, hanging "ceiling", etc.)
o very weak engine, especially when the air conditioning is ON; this junk weakly accelerates (and roughly, struggling as if it is over 10 years old)
THIS ACCORD IS A PIECE OF JUNK!
That has to be one of the more assinine comments I have seen here on Edmunds. It's not as if Honda put out a few with the passenger side key cylinder then stopped. The 03 Accord has never had one. You should have made sure the car you bought included all features you find important. You can always go trade the Accord for something that suits you better.
Brakes, transmissions, etc!
Calling someone a "honda employee" will serve as a lightning rod for a deletion by the way.
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Last summer/fall, Honda changed the front pad material (I don't know if it was to the same material as the 6th gen or not). They replaced my pads and I have been driving for several thousand miles since with no problems. The new pads were installed on 2004 models at the factory, so there should be no problems with them.
We had that happen on our GS300 courtesy of a local tire shop. Kind of infuriaing as well because we had just replaced the rotors and pads. But we sold the car before they got too bad.
Let's get back to discussion and leave personality out of it.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I think there is a flaw with the 2003 Accord brake system (grabby). Mine has a come-and-go vibrations/pulsations in the steering wheel when braking. I'm not a brake-rider (nor do panic braking) and still have this problem.
This Accord (and naughty gregoryc1) deserves a whip on the butt.
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In recognition of how badly it was installed the first time, the dealer extended the warranty. So - while I was extremely unhappy with the initial work, I am pleased with the dealer response.
HONDA dropped the ball on quite possibly the most important safety issue on a car - brakes. i really do believe this will be a "60 Minutes" type issue. don't want it to be, since the resale values will plummet as a result.
i am wondering if Honda has changed some magagement staff or something. if this were Ford/Firestone, i could understand. but I have had 2 Civics and an Integra, no brake issues whatsoever. not sure what happened in 02/03 with regard to quality and service....but in 04 things still aren't fixed.
other than that, car runs great. it is smooth, and fast, and quite efficient for a V6. just don't expect the smoothness and efficiency when braking for some reason.....