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section over the cargo area"
Is this a marketing term for the movable bike rack system or is this a real removable roof like the one on some new GM suv/truck with the tailgate that can open down to to the side? Thanks.
Mileage has averaged 12-13 on highway/city mix. No desire for tire rack either. There is a decent amount of room even with the spare, and if I need more, I'll just leave it at home.
I will keep updating on any issues, but right now I am VERY happy with my H2.
That molding is supposed to be held on by doubleside tape. The guy on the assembly line forgot to take the plastic off the tape and just pressed it on. So it was installed improperly. Another problem you should watch out for is weak grab handles. They're held in place with plastic tabs, put too much pressure on them and they'll break off.
I wonder if someone will come out with some headers to improve fuel mileage. I had a full size Dodge Van years ago we used to travel to motocross races in. I installed a set of headers and the gas mileage improved to 2-3 mpg.
Keep us posted for any updates.
Thanks
The front driver's assist handle located on the windshield side interior leaks water after heavy down pours or going through the carwash. It leaks where the cover plate screws/bolts to the windshield frame. (Sounds to me like this is related to a sunroof seal leak or a windshield seal leak.)
After running the H2 through a carwash, the upper front corner on the driver's side of the sunroof makes a gurgling noise as if air and water is trapped inside the drain tubes for the sunroof. It doesn't go away until you hit the highway above 60 MPH and let the air force it out. (There have been 4-5 complaints of seal problems with this new sunroof.)
Had a problem with the "seal" around the sunroof. I noticed this after washing the rig for the first time, and crawling around on the roof to dry the top. Not good, as it appears this seal keeps water from getting between the roof and sunroof.
The sunroof visor molding was not seated?
The horizontal dash grab handle above glove box was loose on left side. (it is similar to assist handles loose/pulling out.)
In the center storage compartment there are 2 "posts" on the driver side like maybe they forgot to give us a coin holder that slips over the posts. Other GM vehicles have exactly that.
Two H2's delivered to dealer with only 1 ignition key each; still waiting for 2nd key. (Actually they should provide 3-4 of these keys (for "spares") as they are a pain (and $$$$) to have made at a later date).
No good place for the left foot when extended out while driving. There is some form of plastic
"box" down there probably electrical or heating-have not looked yet.
Wire harness around parking brake control exposed/loose.
The removable u-steps should have had more of a "punched" tread for the holes. It will be slippery in the winter.
The driver's floor mat is sort of "slippery" when driving and resting your right heel. Foot slides around on the "rubber/plastic".
The 3 overhead compartments to hold eyeglasses should have a more soft lining on the part where the glasses rest. Only one side is covered with "felt" and whatever is up there makes noise when bouncing/sliding around.
The plastic housing above the rear hatchback that holds the large center led brake light, was misaligned. This caused the rubber strip that sits between the front of this part and the roof to warp and "catch" on the roof when the hatchback was opened. This caused the left side of this brake light housing to violently separate from the top of the lift gate and slap back down with a loud crack. It damn near had me hitting the dirt, as it had an uncanny resemblance to "small caliber arms fire". This whole piece had to be replaced.
The check engine light illuminated with about 1/8 tank of fuel left (1400 miles). After filling the tank, the light returned to normal.
Hood latch on the will not lock the hood. (An H2 I saw at a dealer had some fiberglass damage where the hood latches to the body due to misaligned hood catches.)
Lack of door protection from other vehicles dinging the H2 doors. (Evident at one dealer with a 2-week old H2, with U-steps installed.)
Extreme variation in dealer pricing of an easily installed rear swing-away tire carrier, dealer cost $509, retail $795, installed, $1200-$1400.
Difficulty telling if/when AC is on due to indicator button being reverse of normal. (AC off when button indicator is lit.) Also, there has been considerable discussion that the A/C (besides being hard to tell if it's on), is inadequate for this vehicle. (I've test driven 3 H2's and each time the AC had to be set at 60 degrees to cool down the huge interior and keep it cool...humid-90 degrees outside....it never got to 60 degrees...at least in 20 minutes).
It turned out the AC system was overcharged. Apparently it was charged to specs if the vehicle has rear air (3.8 lbs of 134). The tech at the dealership found it as soon as he got his AC service machine hooked up and evacuated the system and recharged with 1.8 lbs.
The service manager also noticed the seal at firewall to inside was missing. They were able to seal it with some of the old black stuff we used years ago to seal ac lines going thru the firewall. A quick check of another H2 nearby, showed no seal. Service manager called factory to see if this was a problem.
Also had to disconnect the battery to reset the fresh air supply door.
It's cooling much better now.
Just make sure to have the dealership fix each and every issue, no matter how small.
-mike
Get that thing dirty!!!!! :-)
#212 of 219 Partial problem list by h1vc Sep 09, 2002 (05:45 pm)
The traction control dash light kept coming on when I first got my H2. I thought I had a brake pad dragging. ...
Sorry. thought you owned one. I don't either by the way, just think they are cool is all. :-)
I can understand saving weight, but I would like to see the grill in stainless or polished alum.
I am talking trails where you get to the end and only Land Rover Defenders, Toyota FJ40s and Jeep CJ5s have made it. Can the H2 handle this?
What about snow...anybody been doing any summer glacier climbing? Any Sand experience? Mud?
The H1 certainly beats it off road, but it is a completely uncivilized vehicle with very little passenger space and zero ammenities. Portal axles kick butt, but you couldn't pay me to drive an H1 on road.
Frankly, for the cost of an H2, I'd spend $25k on a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon for off roading and $25k on a nice sedan.
I think the Hummer is far from uncivilized. It has all the ammenities a normal vehicle has. The ride on road is alot better than the reviews make it out to be, I've driven 2 and ridden in 2. Space in front is good, I'm over 5'11", the rear legroom is tight with the front seat all the way back, but with the seat a little foward rear leg room is alright, better than my cousin's 02 accord. It is noisy, but all diesels are like that.
Again it can be found at:
http://www.elcova.com/h2
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the fact is that this BB, as entertaining as it is, is geared almost solely to new consumers and has a very shallow TECHNICAL depth.
In cases where people are looking for in depth information and technical know how related to a specific vehicle, there are far more informative web sites out there.
This is no slam on Edmunds, but I find it ludicrous that a site dedicated to helping consumers would not want those same people to be pointed toward the BEST place for their questions, where ever that might be.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
We don't have a problem with members mentioning other sites that have message boards. The key word was promoting and it's sometimes a fine line. No other commercial sites tolerate posters encouraging members to leave and go elsewhere. It is a reasonable policy.
Also, notice that the post "in question" was not removed as I concluded the poster was providing useful information to the rest of the group. His use of the word FORUMS (capitalized, no less) might have been construed as promoting the other site. I felt a simple cautionary message was appropriate.
I hope that helps.
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Injuries to all people were fairly minor, including the driver of the Dodge truck which was the last vehicle struck. That driver and the
Hummer driver were the only ones who even visited the hospital, as far as I can tell. As for damage to other vehicles? The last two struck by the Hummer were much damaged, especially the Dodge, which was totaled. Don't know about the others. The Hummer was totaled.
Fix: Reduce amount of fluid in reservoir, learn to love green spots
Problem: Molding loose on rear doors
Fix: Push back on, good for about three weeks
Problem: Headliner sagging below sunroof molding
Fix: None, hope GM will issue a service bulletin on this, needs a couple of screws to attach it to the bottom of the roof (not screws through roof) or extend and strengthen lip of sunroof molding
Problem: Corrosion inhibiting paint on chassis gouged when grounding screws were attached at the factory
Problem: Winch has to be removed to open hood
Problem: Shift handle rotates somewhat, sloppy
Problem: Occasionally feels like I have very little brake
Problem: No locking gas cap
Problem: Some people have bad reception with their radio
Also I read GM is offering 0% financing on leftover 02 Hummer/H2s.
As far as I know, I and few other Hummer addicts are the only ones that calls the original, Hummer and the new one, H2. Everyone else, including AMG/GM calls them H1/H2, and together they are Hummers. GM's release says 0% on Hummer and others.
I finally picked up my new 03 Black H2 yesterday from the dealer, and i had been waiting since the beggining of August when i first put my name on the list, wasn't that long. I had the two TV screens installed in the headrests which should be fun for the kids. The truck is great. I currently own 5 vehicles and my driveway is getting crowded. Im still deciding whether or not to keep the Escalade which currently has 13,000 miles on it and many after-market options. I cancelled my request for a Mercedes CL600 because it was taking too long and am currently looking for a nice weekend sports car to replace my beloved Testarossa. Anyways, the H2 is great......So far, ill update this post with any new info or whatever sometime in the near future.
http://www.motortrend.com/hummer/1.html
I wonder if the H2 is meeting GM's expectations? I don't see many around yet? Cool looking truck, although the interior seems a little too pedestrian.
I remember the Escalade used to command MSRP when it first came out, but now you can get $7K plus off a 2003. I wonder if the H2 will see incentives once the supply picks up a little?
I test drove one and was impressed with the overall experience. Didn't get a chance to do much off road beyond a gravel/dirt road and a couple of curb sized dips.
The turning radius is one thing that helps so much. As far as gas mileage, I am averaging about 11.5 MPG in mixed driving. This is coming from the Denali averaging about 17 MPG and it has the same engine, but the Denali has a 3.73 rear end.
One simple thing I would strongly suggest is that you buy the wrap-around grill guard. The way the top tube is on the front end, it makes it much easier to tell where your 2 front corners are and makes maneuvering much easier.
"The most memorable moment of our off road test came when we pointed the Volvo XC90 up a trail only the most dedicated trucks tackled. With stoic Scandinavian reserve, the five-cylinder SUV methodically plodded up the trail--not once but three times to ensure it wasn't a fluke. To measure how great a feat that was, we attempted to run the H2 up the same hill in street mode (four-wheel drive in high-range, but without locking the differentials). It didn't make it. No Joke."