Hummer H2

h1vc · November 2002

But after they locked the H2, it went up the trail easily (or something similiar, don't remember exact quote). Also before that they said something like that they were so confident that the H2 would do well off road that they left the extraction in the back, and the H2 didn't dissappoint them.

tidester · November 2002

I guess it just shows that the Scandinavians know snow!

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h1vc · November 2002

It should say gear after extraction in my last post.

humnut · November 2002

GM just raised prices on the H2. Base price up $390, luxury package up $225, and sunroof up $400. Just ordered mine this past Tuesday and lucky for me I got the original prices. Leave it to GM to finally come up with a popular vehicle and now try to gauge their customers. I'm sure their profit margins were already very high on this vehicle. 2 years from now after they've diluted the brand with the H3 and H4 they'll be giving these things away.

mikki3000 · November 2002

Humnut, where did you get those price info from?

BTW.... How overprice is H2? And if I may know, how much did you pay for the H2?

h1vc · November 2002

hummer.com under build has it.

h1vc · November 2002

http://www.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/app.pl/albums/large_image_view?id=984342&link_code=sa01_17

araftco · November 2002

I would say the ride is in line with my Denali XL at speed. You notice some stiffness at low speeds such as going over a speed bump. But I have taken the H2 on some back roads and the ride comfort is excellent considering it's offroad prowess.

kgreese · November 2002

Don't let the look of the H2 stop you from driving one.
It has a smooth & quite ride. It goes 0-60 in 9.9 seconds.
Plus being in the mid-$50,000 range, competing against the Escalade, Navigator, LX470, Range Rover, all of these cost $5,000 to $15,000 more!!!
The H1 is the only other SUV that can beast the off-road capabilities of the H2.
Hummer is only making 40,000 a year, no more!

kgreese · November 2002

There is more Markup in a suburab is mroe and also a $35,000 Lexus ES300.!!!

h1vc · November 2002

http://breathlessperformance.com/products/Hummer%20first%20page.asp

Up to 5 mpg. Disclamer; don't have interest in company, never used it, etc.

titanfan1 · December 2002

I recently purchased an H2 from Neil Hayes at Crest Cadillac Hummer in Nashville.Had I gone by what is expressed here in this forum I would have been terribly misdirected.
My H2 rides as nice or better than my wifes Escalade.I find the Volvo too feminine for my my needs and prefer a capable third world design.I believe the sour grapes come from the folks who can't afford one.
Motor Trend will sell Car of the Year too anyone.Remember they gave it to the Corvair!
The Hummer is all Hummer.It doesn't become a GM product until it goes on to a cargo carrier.
Suck it in ladies and gents.The H2 has rocked the world.

wishnhigh1 · December 2002

third world car design? Sorry, but no car manufacturers that sell in this country are anywhere near third world.

Sporin · December 2002

"I recently purchased an H2 from Neil Hayes at Crest Cadillac Hummer in Nashville.Had I gone by what is expressed here in this forum I would have been terribly misdirected.
My H2 rides as nice or better than my wifes Escalade.I find the Volvo too feminine for my my needs and prefer a capable third world design.I believe the sour grapes come from the folks who can't afford one.
Motor Trend will sell Car of the Year too anyone.Remember they gave it to the Corvair!
The Hummer is all Hummer.It doesn't become a GM product until it goes on to a cargo carrier.
Suck it in ladies and gents.The H2 has rocked the world."

Considering how resoundingly positive the discussion has been in this topic, I think someone's getting a wee bit defensive for nothing. :-P

I like the H2 alot, but it is decidedly NOT "all Hummer." It is a VERY well executed GM SUV optimized for off-road instead of towing (like the majority of GM's SUV's & trucks). Other then cosmetics (interior bits, styling details, etc) it is "all GM" and that ISN'T a bad thing in my opinion.

intmed99 · December 2002

Remember that the Lexus GX470 competes with the Hummer H2 and lost. H2 does NOT compare with the LX470 nor Range Rover nor G500.

h1vc · December 2002

What magazine was this? Who won?

Vote for H2

automobile.primediaautomotive.com

daveghh · December 2002

If I had enough money to buy a H2, I wouldn't. Why do people like the H2? It looks like a Tonka Toy I had when I was a child. I am not trying to be offensive, so please don't take it that way.

For that money I would buy an Acura MDX which which is a far better SUV for the road. Then I would buy a slightly used Jeep Wrangler which can go places the H2 cannot.

h1vc · December 2002

People buy the H2 for many reason. SOme always wanted a Hummer but felt the Hummer was uncivilized, too large, too expansive, for the look (they like the tonka truck look), for advertising, safety, etc.

The H2 can do things the MDX and Wrangler together can't. Haul around 6 adults, 7 with aftermarket seat, tow, on and offroad, serve as an advertisement, offroad with the best vehicles on earth, etc.

True, there are places a Wrangler can go that a H2 can't, basically narrow trails, but there are also many places that the H2 can go that a wrangler can't. Every offroad vehicle has their own limitations.

daveghh · December 2002

Yes, I really loved that Tonka truck I had when I was a child.

h1vc · December 2002

I loved my trucks as a kid, still do. I'd basically drive them over everything. The H2 and Hummer is basically a lifesized tonka truck, car and driver agrees, to these owners and enthuaists. For some reason they just love them, for some, me, its become an addiction, and have to have it. For arnold it was love.
"It's difficult to put into words. It's like
love, when you meet that girl, you just know
it. I was like that with the Hummer. I'd been
looking for a car like that all my life" Last I heard Arnold had 5 Hummers and 2 H2s. Any quesions?

daveghh · December 2002

h1vc

Using love, girl and Hummer in one post can get "dangerous" on this board.

h1vc · December 2002

Maybe they won't notice. Hope I helped you get a better understanding.

SUT info: The SUT has been approved for production. Start of production is slated for 2nd quarter 2004 as a 2005 model year VIN.

intmed99 · December 2002

FourWheeler Magazine just named the Lexus GX470 FourWheeler of the Year, beating Hummer H2 and Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, among others.

h1vc · December 2002

The same guys that picked the Tacoma over Hummer, LR, and Wrangler. Hmm...

tidester · December 2002

Using love, girl and Hummer in one post can get "dangerous" on this board.

Notice h1vc mentioned all three and used Arnold as an example - but didn't mention Arnold's girl! :-)

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h1vc · December 2002

Arnold's girl fact: Maria only drives the H2 because she thinks Hummers are too big.

navigator3740 · December 2002

ANYBODY is talking about an Acura MDX on this board?????? As popular as it is, I can't imagine actually taking one off road...unless you're talking about speed bumps in the supermarket parking lot......

daveghh · December 2002

navigator3740,

I simply said for the price of a Hummer H2 I could buy an Acura MDX for everyday driving and I would have enough money to buy a used Jeep Wrangler for serious off roading. The Wrangler could go places the H2 couldn't.

tidester · December 2002

I simply said for the price of a Hummer H2 I could buy an Acura MDX for everyday driving and I would have enough money to buy a used Jeep Wrangler for serious off roading.

And don't forget the space you would save with the MDX and Wrangler compared with the H2! ;-)

(Just kidding guys! No flames please!)

tidester, host

texasjeep · December 2002

Lexus GX470 four wheeler of the year? What a joke.

"breathlessperformance.com
Up to 5 mpg."
That is a big gain. I bet you will only see something close if you can stay easy on the pedal. If you use the extra power the mpg would stay the same. Did you see what those packages cost? One of them is $7,000.

What does the H2 have in the differtials as far as traction devices? Anyone know?

gsgman69 · December 2002

when it is obviously made for private use?

Therefore there are no fuel economy requirements for it under CAFE.

Who made this stupid loophole for these obvious shopping maul[sic] rovers?

Anyway the last laugh may be on GM with the new CAFE rules coming out:

http://www.auto.com/industry/fuel14_20021214.htm

And GM wonders why it keeps losing market share when it produces only larger vehicles instead of making engineering progress in vehicle sized according to people's real needs.

dealmkrjjd · December 2002

Can any of you H2 owners tell me what I can actually expect to get for gas mileage? City & Hwy please. I live in Chicago and have a Land Rover that gets consistantly 10-11 city, 16-17 hwy & 13-14 combined. Not all that concerned with $$, I just don't know if I want to buy something that will be much worse and give the oil barrons of the middle east anymore $$$.

grand6 · December 2002

first 1000 miles of combined miles getting 11.5 mpg. Most others (on Hummer forum) getting 11-13 mpg.

fitnessguru · December 2002

Those not interested in either buying an H2 or sharing their ownership experience should find somewhere else to post. If you think you have a superior vehicle to the H2, why don't you find a message board that shares your view. I, for one, could care less what the Mercedes G500 can do...it's just so damm ugly. Many other off road trucks have been mentioned on this site in an effort to prove how superior they are to the H2 ... and why? Do you think people really take the views of biased non H2 owners to heart when deciding to buy or not to buy? Please...guys get a life. The majority of H2 buyers could care less how well the H2 performs off road. The average H2 owner made their purchase to: 1)Own something very unique 2)Drive something that turns heads wherever they go, and 3) Know if they did have to go off road they had a very capable vehicle. I love my H2 inside and out. I'm 6'-4" 200lbs and feel there is plenty of head room and leg room. The power during acceleration is far better than my GMC Suburban SLT. The stereo system is as good as any luxury vehicle's stock system. I've never owned a vehicle that gets such massive attention like the H2. If you're thinking about purchasing an H2, I would recommend it. I can't say enough about it and my friends and family love it to.

sbcooke · December 2002

I think GM did a great thing by creating an almost affordable offroad vehicle. I wish they would offer the same package in a more reasonable body style. Most of the underpinnings are GM trucks (i.e. Tahoe/Suburban) and they could put the same suspension components, wheels, etc. in a more traditional SUV shape. I see more soccer mom's driving the H2 around in my area, seems quite ridiculous. A traditional shape would get people the offroad ability want to drive around with (but never would use) but also something that looks more civilized.

wishnhigh1 · December 2002

I like everything that the H2 is, but everything that fitnessguru makes it out to be.

The H2 has turned into a car for people who are always suckers for more attention, and for people that desire inflation of their egos.

Pathetic.

bgkanne1 · December 2002

I agree, the H2 is really for people that want to be noticed. But lets face it, most other suv's out there are not too distinctive. If they are different (the G500 and H1 Hummer come to mind) they tend to be grossly over priced and/or impractical transportation. The H2 has it all; distinctive, attractive, practical, low maintenance, great off road capability, competitive pricing and proven GM drivetrain. As long as GM comes out with variations of the H2 and upgrades it accordingly, it will remain a strong player in the market.

bajarider · December 2002

Any thoughts on if, or when, the General will offer a Duramax/Allison powered H2?

144wd · December 2002

I'm new so forgive me if I started a new thread.

I've been hoping the H2 would come in a Diesel too. Besides the disappointing price tag, the only other major disappointment keeping me from real consideration of buying is there's no diesel option. Seems so logical - so many advantages over gasoline, but primarily fuel mileage. Assume they must have considered offering a turbodiesel, so it makes me wonder, what would be their reason for not offering one? (Other than being lame)

I don't know the Duramax/Allison mill, so is there reason for mentioning this for the H2 -above others?

bgkanne1 · December 2002

I would be surprised if GM offers the diesel in the near future in the H2. I believe that the diesel is currently only offered on 3/4 and 1 ton Chevy/GMC trucks. Isn't the H2 based off of the 1/2 ton Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform?

h2owner · December 2002

No, The H2 frame is hydroformed steel and is made up of 3 sections. The front is 3/4 ton suburban, middle is 3/4 ton 2500 HD truck, rear is Chevy Tahoe. While there are parts are used out of the GM parts bin. The H2 is "Manufactured by AM General for distribution by General Motors." This quote can be found on the build tag in the drivers door. I purchased mine on July 24,2002 and currently have 15,700+ miles. I have had fewer problems with this than a Honda Accord. It has NOT been in the shop for one repair. My gas mileage combined (mostly city) is 11.8-12.1 MPG. You can increase your gas mileage by removing your inspection plate off your Air Cleaner assembly. This allows more air flow than found in the hole under the fender. The factory filter flows with virtually no resistance. The plate is not used to secure the air filter. I have used mine as it has been off-road several times and have not had any real obstacles to stop it. The thing that I like most is the smile it puts on kids faces when the see it.

h1vc · December 2002

The H2 has 2 traction systems, TCS and TCS2. TCS is for normal hard surface traction needs, like on-roaduse, off-road rock crawling or ice and snow. TCS2 is for variable surfaces like deep mud, sand or gravel. The TC2 works just like TCS but allows limited wheel spin to help gain even more traction.

Any vehicle with a gvwr above is a commerical vehicle, the h2 has a 8600 gvwr.

Most on the h2ml are getting 11-13mpg average.

The duramax/allison is simply too long for the H2, it won't fit without extensive modifications to the H2. GM is however looking at other engine choices, both gas and diesel, one example is their upscale performance H2 (450hp). My guess is that a diesel will come out with the SUT.

kbowen · January 2003

My lease on a DII is over early next year. The DII is a tank off road with a lot of capability, except for those lousy 18" low profile tires that keep going flat. If I keep the DII, I will have to change out the rims to 16" to get decent offroad tires. I will not offroad again with the 18". I do not plan on releasing/purchasing another DII because of of all the changes (unibody, independent suspension, etc.)My first choice was the Defender which I read would be here in 2004; now I understand it has been pushed back to 2006. The H3 will be out in 2004, but it is an unknown. So I am presently considering the H2, Toyota 4-Runner, possibly the H3, or if the loot is available, the MB G, but that does not seem likely. What do you guys think. I would appreciate any info had on what the H3 will look like and its offroad capability.

h1vc · January 2003

The H3 probably will not come out in 2004. The SUT release date just got pushed back to 04/05, so the H3 probably will come out some years after that. There are 3 H3 illustrations on www.hummer3.net. From what I've heard the H2 is good offroad. At recent events it went everywhere the Hummer did. You can find more offroad info on the H2ML at www.hummerh2.net. Good luck.

megasuvowner · January 2003

My new h2 was totalled in the early morning hours on new years day when it was hit by a drunk driver while it was parked on the street.Tank god i wasnt in the car and no one was injured except for the driver who was taken to the hospitol for minor injuries. He was driving a big ford pickup and he hit the hummer from the side. it looks like i would have been okay if i was in the drivers seat but definately not in the rear passengers seat. Debating whether or not to get another h2 when the insurance check arrives.

tidester · January 2003

I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune.

Do you have any idea how fast the doofus was driving?

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h1vc · January 2003

Sorry to hear that. Well, did you like it? Are there any new cars/trucks that you like just as much as/more than the H2? What others are you looking at? Do you have any pics of the accident?

sbcooke · January 2003

That is a bummer, have the H2's been crash tested? I wonder how the tahoe does in side impact?

On another note, I was getting a coffee the other day and saw a H2 outside, I looked in to check it out and what caught my eye was the coach handbag, lipstick and car phone...a true offroader :-)

h1vc · January 2003

No crash test yet. Tahoe didn't do so well, but the H2's chasis is stronger than the Tahoe's so it probably will do better.

beach15 · January 2003

I'd go for another H2. There's nothing else like it out there on the road, and I just couldn't bear to live without one if I did have one. We have an Avalanche, another awesome SUV/truck, but not as exclusive or capable as an H2. However, if we ever hit the Powerball or PCH, I already know I'll be buying a yellow H2, no questions....

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