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1.8T AWD
Metallic Paint
Premium Package
Audio Package
Lighting Package
Cold Weather Package
17" Alloy Wheels w/ All season tires
MSRP 35,620 Invoice 33,081
I've done my research on the 04s so I knew what prices to expect, but what would be a good deal on an '05 with respect to invoice?
1.8T Quattro 6M (Black w/Ebony Leather)
Cold Weather/Premium/Ultrasport/Lighting/NYS Emissions
Sale Price: $33,799.00
Tax: $2788.42
Fees: $207.45
Sub Total: $36,794.87
Less Rebate: -$500.00
Total Out of Pocket: $36,294.87
The sale price is $500.00 over invoice (his) and I mean to get that down to Edmunds number.
Fee Break Down
DMV Process Fee: $45.00
Two Year Registration: $80.00
NYS Inspection: $10.00
Wax, Polish & Materials: $59.95
NYS Tire Waste Mgt: $12.50
I also have an issue with the DMV Processing fee (seems high), the waxing part is going to have to go. Also need to check into this Tire waste management fee as well.
After talking with literally 8 or 9 dealers in the Northeast corridor I would say $500.00 over invoice is do-able. Provided you use some "skills".
Audi dealers (at least the one's I've dealt with, seem to be in no big hurry to sell cars.
Some will "move" on pricing some will just give you thier number and if you walk or don't call back they don't seem to mind.
Use the tips from Edmunds and set a wide area for shopping (I had to as there is only one dealer in my town).
Good Luck
I think you fees are in line with standard DMV/Registration costs. I wouldn't pay for the other nonsense, which amounts to dealer prep.
Enjoy!
UltraSport
Premium
Audio w/ XM
Cold Weather
2) They expire 30Sept2004
Good Luck! If you were buying a Chevy Cavalier and threatened to walk out of the showroom they would lower the price of the car but still put the doc fee in the contract.
I want to buy from the dealer 100 miles away because I can probably get $100 less and prefer to give him the business, but will it make a difference if I go to service my car at my local Audi dealer? My main concern is whether or not I will get the loaner cars from teh dealer when I drop my car off for service.
regards,
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Probelm is the local dealer already knows you might buy from some one else and I had the sales manager make it quite clear to me that in such event I would not get "priority service".
Did that bother me, not really, but $100.00 on a $35K car is not really all that much. $500 to $1,000.00 however is an entirely different matter.
Silver w/ ebony interior
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Lighting Package
Bose Audio w/ XM
17" alloy wheels
Price:
$34,200 sale price
+$160 doc fee
+$2061.60 sales tax
+$15 title
+$8 plate transfer
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$36,444.60 out the door price.
I think I did pretty well considering the fact that my dealer had to get this car from out of town. Makes it even better w/ the $500 race to audi days certificate
What do you guys think?
But with me it literally was $135.00 difference and I was not as close as you are to the other dealer so I stayed local.
Good work.
3 to 5 percent over the true invoice price of the car is resonable dealer profit.
What I'm trying to say is if you got the car you wanted at or near your target price. Then you did well for yourself.
Some people may pay a little more, some a little less. It's all relative.
Congrats on the new car. I can't wait to pick mind up (post #164). These cars a blast to drive. I'm actually looking foward to winter for a change.
-joel
Ask that manager to go on record regarding not getting priority service. All Audi owners should get the same level of service no matter where the car has been purchased in the united states.
The service department is seperate from the Sales and in all likelyhood,they would not even know when you came in and got out.
Hopefully you will be going to service once a year.
I just came home tonight with a new 1.8 Cab
Here are the numbers:
spec: 2005 A4 1.8T;premium,lighting,audi package,heated seats. Amulet red
4yr lease/15k per year.
$0 down
$549.66 per month include 8.7% tax
I went to Sunset Imports in Beaverton OR
It took 4 hrs to do the deal. I don't know why. I already agree on the price over the phone. It took them 4 hrs to do the paperwork and when I went to sign the deal, they only gave me a lease at 12k per year. I was furious. The finance guy was very rude and I was about to walk out on the deal. The manager finally came back and agree on the final deal. This is reinforce my negative view toward dealership. Overall, the sale guy was very nice....
Did I get a good deal?
What's your thoughts on XM/Cirrus radio option? The dealer told me that it would add $375 to cap cost. When I told him I thought that it was 350, he said, oh ok, sure we'll do it for $350. Is there that much room on these seemingly "standard" options?
Also, negotiate with the internet/fleet managers because they do everything over the computer and get past all of the BS the fastest. When I was talking to my guy at delivery he said he was on track to sell 125 cars this year. So he can afford to give better deals because he isn't "as" focused on his bottom line because he makes it up in volume. Also, the funny thing about looking up the actual invoice price on Edmunds.com and the invoice the dealer will admit to is night and day. That PDI charge is built in profit to assure they make money. Especially with a company like Audi that doesn't offer hold backs to their dealerships. Go for invoice, add $500 and that is the lowest the dealers will even think of going. In most cases add another $500 on top and you get what I paid. That is how it works.
Sorry to tell you Bud, but I got the identical car minus the lighting and cold weather package...mine had the sports package not just 17 inch wheels, for a sale price of $29,700. Did yours have an automatic with quattro?
Oh, I am also cosidering a TSX. Thanks!
My advise is $500 above invoice and then add another $500 for what Audi calls a "PDI" charge. Which is a Post Delivery Inspection charge. Then add $200-$500 on top of that and that is what they could consider $200-$500 above invoice. I just bought a 2005 1.8t 5-Speed that listed for $30,860. The true invoice was 28,486. I thought I would be able to get it for 28,946. I have been an Audi owner for 6 years and the lowest I could get was $29,700.
Also, the TSX is a peice of crap. I test drove that car twice before I bought my A4. The demo car was falling apart. I have read TSX owners write about 2nd rate build quality on the TSX model. That is why they can charge $4k less than an A4. Take my advise, get the A4. I am REALLY happy I did. The Audi's build quality is superior.
I would ask the Rep. to send you exact information about the Special Edition so you can compare it to the standard A4 on sale now. Let me know what you find!
1) The A4 styling, with painted bumpers and dual exhaust, looks a lot better than the 3-Series. Also the front end on the non-coupe 3-Series is much more plain than the A4.
2) A 3-Series optioned out the same as my A4 was $5,500 more. Yes! $5,500 more!
3) The interior of the A4 is much more luxurious than the 3-Series.
4) The front wheel drive makes the A4 safer than the 3-Series even if the performance isn't quite as good.
5) Audi's warranty is just as good as the BMW, but the car costs less.
6) The Audi was much less to insure than the BWM. And at $500 less a year that was important.
7) The BMW dealer wouldn't deal as much as Audi.
All of those factors combined and the fact that the Audi was a really fun/luxurious car helped me decide on the A4. Also, the BMW residual value is only 1% higher than the A4.
After I gave the $500 deposit on my A4 1.8T Automatic Quatro w/ Premium and Cold weather, I called to see if the car came in yet...the dealer told me that he couldn't get that exact car, so he got me one with some "extras" on it. This included a
1. a rear spoiler
2. 17 inch wheels
3. powered passenger seat
all for the same price. Now is this the "special editions" you guys are talking about? Makes me wonder how much of a markup these guys are getting anyway for the "best price". I paid $1357 down (first payment, bank fee, and dmv) and $389/month. I've driven it for a week, and I am loving every minute of it.
For those looking to buy, I strongly suggest finding a dealer who has contracted w/Costco's buying service. Two dealers in L.A. who were affiliated w/Costco offered me any Audi for $500 over invoice. I've used Costco to buy my last 3 cars, so I know it's legit.
Sorry to intrude. I spent months trying to figure out which car would be best for my needs. Any case, Saturday evening, I traded my Saab and took home an Audi A4 Avant, 1.8T with cold weather and premium packages, along with 17 inch alloy wheels (no sports package). It's Atlas Grey with a grey interior. Very pretty.
Here's my worry: The MSRP of the vehicle was over $34,000 with the 2 packages, and the wheels. It is a 2004. The 2005s have come in.
I noticed someone who bought an Audi sedan in Newton, NJ for about $29,700 and it had different bells and whistles, but was certified.
They were originally asking over $32,000 (when someone called around this week for me), because the car had 6000 miles. I was told that it had been the manager's vehicle.
Usually, I'm more saavy, but someone else was buying me the car.
I know the $32+K price was the 2004 invoice price.
They dropped the price to 29,995, and threw in some all weather mats, wind-deflector, and something else.
When we were funneled over to the finance manager, we were told that an extended warranty was $4600, if we didn't take it that day (new car with less miles), otherwise, he'd drop it to $2,600, along with tire and rim insurance ($450), plus an extended maintenance plan, he was asking for $3,700 over the asking price.
In addition, I was only given $2,500 for my '98 Saab (99,000 miles, but it was in good shape).
Before I got the keys, I have learned enough to do a visual inspection of the car. As I walked around, I first noticed a gouge in the back bumper, and a deep, deep scratch in the front bumper.
I asked them, if they could certify the car to avoid paying for the additional warranties, and we were told, no, because the car was never "titled," so it was new.
I looked again, and noticed the black plastic grill on the right side was damaged.
They wouldn't take any more money off the car, or give me a break on the warranty, and we had been there for hours and hours.
I kept asking for the vehicle history report, but the salesman ended up overlooking giviing it to me.
They said, Monday, I should bring the car back, they'll make all the repairs, detail the car, and give me a loaner.
Today, I went to have a Firestone dealer do a quick inspection: he found a deep scratch in one of the rims.
Later, I turned on the car, and it's asking for "Service!"
I think something is really fishy here, and perhaps, I could have gotten a better deal elsewhere. I don't know, $2,000 off the invoice price of a car with 6000K, needing some bodywork, and asking for $3,700 in warranties just doesn't seem right.
No matter how saavy, you think you are, believe me, it's tough to find a dealer who is really honest, I would think.
Oh, I'm glad that I had since Saturday evening to think about it. The car's very nice, seats very firm, discreetly elegant, but I'm going to have to keep it for a very long time.
By this point, I think I should set aside the monies of the extended warranties, and use it for another car down the line, right?
Lastly. Would anyone know why the A4 Avant 1.8T only received a 4 out of 5 star rating?
Thanks alot!
Think of it this way - would you put down a nonrefundable downpayment (not deposit, mind you) to rent an apartment for 3 years? What if you HAD to move, or the apartment building collapsed? Same thing
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