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2- Any money down reduces the interest paid on the lease, just as is the case with a downpayment in a financing situation.
Hope you had a good holiday. You are astute. In the end, I decided to return the car. I just don't need the hassle. I feel the way things are said, and handled during the sales process is critical to the way I will be dealt with by the service department. I found there were several complaints filed against this dealer.
I don't want to fool around taking the car in for repairs and maintenance, I want a no problem dealership that is going to help me get in and out.
I dissolved the contract, took back my car, gave them back theirs and went to a different dealer that I heard was good.
I found another Avant wagon, similarly equipped with 50 miles, premium and cold weather packages, but 16 inch wheels. The smaller wheels makes the car drive much smoother, the ride is much more enjoyable, although the 17 inch wheels are more attractive looking. And, yes, I test drove it, and it has 50 miles!
The price is 28,500. It's been certified, and I get a two year extended warranty included. However, they only offered me $2000 towards my car. It's Atlas Grey with a light tan interior, instead of grey.
I think it's a good price, especially since it has a two year extra warranty. It was in a special program, meaning it was supposed to be the manager's car.
I have to wait until December 2, though.
After all is this, now other dealers are calling me to offer me the cars I was trying to find:
Mercedes C240 4 matic wagon, or a BMW 2004 324xit sports wagon with premium pack, upgraaded stereo, cold weather package, and xenon headlights. I can't recall if it has leather.
I was happy with the thought of the Audi, bec. I couldn't afford even a used BMW, but now I'm noticing that Audi's, even new ones have been having problems -- like multiple trips to the dealers, several reports of needing new transmissions, Audi not being receptive?
Your input would be appreciated. Thanks and happy holidays!
I am looking at an '05 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro, Special Edition
Brilliant Red
Cold Weather
Bose/XM Stereo
Premium Pkg
17 inch wheels
Rear Spoiler (on a wagon??)
The sales guy says MSRP is $33,700. But they would have to order it for me and I may not see it until May. Seemed to me like he was looking through inventory lists while on the phone.
Isn't this car just a money maker for Audi while they get the production line set for the '06 models? Am I wrong to think that I could get this car for under 30K? This guy is just so hard sell, and all numbers he gives me are based on MSRP. HELP!!!
Also, any feedback on the Audi Premier Purchase? What's the catch??
As far as the selling price goes, you should come in close to invoice - anywhere from below invoice to $1k over appears to be the range. I got my '05 A4 3.0 UltraSport for about $700 over invoice in Sept. The dealer had to locate one and have it shipped.
I am getting this A4 1.8T Quattro SE (Premium package, Bose sound system & 17 inch alloy wheel)- $34,320 for $3289 down & 299/month @ 15k miles per year for 42 month.
Pls. suggest how does it look? Am I paying extra /getting ripped off OR any suggestions /inputs?.....this is my first time that I am leasing.
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Since you are leasing, you shouldn't put any money down, either. It will raise your monthly payment but you are not giving the dealer "free money", which is what you do when you put a down payment on a leased vehicle. You do need to pay certain things up front like the dealer/bank acquisition fees and 1st month payment. Shouldn't come to much more than $1200 or so up front. Hope this helps!
I'm currently working on a deal for an 05 A4 Ultrasport.
Here are the specs:
2005 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro
Ultra Sport Package
Dolphin Gray Metallic Paint
Premium Package
Manual 6 Speed
Bose w/ Sirius Satellite Radio
Xenon
Cold Weather Package
Wheel Locks
MSRP OF 09.04: $36,920
MSRP AS OF 12.04: $38,120
INVOICE AS OF 12.04: $35,356
The best deal I have is for $35,285
The lease is for 36 mos w/ 10k miles per year.
$0 down, + costs.
$436 per month
For this time of the year (I have heard to accept nothing over invoice) does this seem like a good deal? Do you think it is likely to get my payments to about $350?
Thanks.
Joe
So...no, it isn't likely you will get the payments down to $350.. I'd guess that you won't get them under $436.
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Cap. Cost $35,285
Residual $19,441.2
Depreciation $15,843.8 = $377.23/mos (over 42)
monthly interest = $26.81
total before tax monthly charge $404.04
Assuming you pay sales tax only on the lease payment in your state 6% sales tax would bring you to $428.29.
I know that 36/10,000 is not the sames as 42/12,000, but the ball park seems to be at the limit. The can won't be discounted much lower even as the 2005s disappear.
You are pretty much at the bottom of the lease paymant range for that car. From what I understand, Audi has already finished its big support for leftover '04s and '05s. As long as the dealer is around or just below invoice and the charge you AFS money factors, there is little more that you can do. Maybe some free winter mats or something.
Enjoy - it's a fun car (I have the '05 3.0 USP)
I'm on the market for a new car and have fallen for the 2005 Audi A4 Cab 1.8T CVT with the following options:
- premium package
- audio package
- lighting package
- 17" alloy wheels
- heated front seats
- color - l. silver metallic
List price is $41.3K, and the dealer has quoted me $38.4 (plus taxes, title & dealer fees), claiming that it is their invoice cost.
Does anyone know if this is a good deal, especially with the 2005.5/2006's coming out in ~3 months?
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I got a quote for a '03 Audi 1.8TQuatro AWD, Sports package, Bose, 17" alloy wheels, 28750 miles, for $ 26,500 (buy) with 3.9% for 60 mths. Please give me some feedback on the deal.
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A4 1.8 Quattro Sedan, manual: $28,150
Special Edition Package: $ 1,200
Cold Weather Package: $ 650
Special Paint: $ 450
Total MSRP: $30,450
Invoice is : $28,231
Difference: $2,219
Please note that I did not include emissions and destination charges as the are the same MSRP=Invoice.
My question to the group is how can I negotiate the Capitalize cost (MSRP)? How much is a fair price/profit over invoice to the dealer?
The advertised lease deal read as follows:
Down payment: $1,995
Ref. Security: $0.00
Acquisition fee: $575
1st Month pmt: $299
Total at inception: $2,869
42 months lease; $299 plus tax per month (I live in NJ).
is is a good deal as advertised? Should I negotiate the MSRP price on this deal?
Thanks guys for your input. This will be my first lease and I am totally confused.
$350 per month including tax
10k per year
42 month lease
My total, I repeat total lease inception cost was $1,309!!!
Included in my lease is free oil change, brake pads, wipers, and tune ups during the life of the lease.
The people at Flemington Audi were amazing. I would totally recommend them.
In almost all circumstances, you can get a lease with only 1st payment, deposits and fees upfront.. Of course, the payment won't be the same.. just tell them you don't want to make a cap cost reduction..
regards,
kyfdx
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Currently sticker price is $39,070 (2005 A4 1.8T Cabriolet) and the salesperson reported that he lowered it to $38,182.00. I know invoice on this car is 33,678.00 and retail is 36,470 plan.
Of course all the ones in stock have upgrades which is how they are trying to get me. I mentioned that I am not in a hurry. I could be without a car for a little bit.
Aside for putting inception fees how low should I try to go?
Sincerely,
Dara
They don't really deal aggressively on convertibles... but, it is winter time and it is a droptop.. You might be able to get that selling price down another $500-$1000...
The only thing to pay upfront?
1st payment
security deposit
title and licensing fees..
I like to roll the acquisition fee and all taxes into the monthly lease payment... Any dealer will do this.. I can't really tell you what the payment should be, as I don't have the money factor and residual numbers... But, I would guess somewhere around $500-$600/month with the minimal upfront costs I have listed..
That is a pretty big spread, I know.. but I'd need the lease numbers to work up a payment..
regards,
kyfdx
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Is this wise? Should I continue to negotiate the $38,182.00 which has the xenon lights & premium pkg.
Thank you so much for your prompt attention.
Dara
They won't care.. they will structure it however you want...
I would surely try to negotiate a lower price... you can't get what you don't ask for...
Regards,
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All the best for 2005!
Dara
My car hunt has concluded, I've decided on a 2005 Audi A4 Special Edition. I've received what I think to be a good offer, but wanted your thoughts especially as I've never leased. Especially you kyfdx--you're the man. Your advice in the past has been tremendous and would be greatly appreciated here.
Here are the details:
-2005 Audi A4 1.8 quattro Special Edition
-Cold Weather Package
-Black on Black Leather
-6 speed manual
-MSRP is $31,600
The offer is $3,500 down with $300 a month (including IL taxes) for 36 months with 10,000 miles.
I know this is a lot to be putting down and is not advised for a lease, but I'm keen on keeping payments in the $300 range.
Also, I'm doing what Audi calls a Premiere Purchase which has been positioned by the dealer as a lease/purchase hybrid. To be honest, I'm not exactly sure how this differs from a traditional lease but it does allow me to be exempt from the city of Chicago 7% usage tax which applies to traditional leases. Total scam by the city.
What do you guys think? It looks like rjorge3 got an amazing deal and I'm starting to question my offer. Please reply as soon as you can, I'm scheduled to pick the car up tomorrow--Thursday.
Thanks so much,
Ro
Let them know you mean business, but have your check book ready if they offer you a good deal (or walk out if they don't) Remember that this week is CRUCIAL for dealers as they love to post good numbers in their books.
I strongly suggest you re-consider making that downpayment.. Stick it in a special account and withdraw $100/mo. to put toward your payment.. You wouldn't believe the horror stories about people having their leased car totaled right away and having their entire downpayment disappear...
It all ends up costing the same in the long run..
regards,
kyfdx
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Hope it helps
Here is what I'm looking at:
2004 A4 3.0 Avant Quattro, 6spd, 12k miles, Brilliant Red, Ultrasport, Premium pkg, lighting pkg (Xenon), On-star, Nav, Cold weather pkg, black leather seats, dual power seats, F&R airbags, manual sun shades, Certified Audi (6yr/100k, 4yr/50k FREE maintenance and roadside assistance). So the car pretty much comes with all the goodies possible to get for it and I must add it's in "immaculate" condition.
Here is what the dealer is offering me:
51 month lease, $3k down, $487/mo ($527 incl. CA 8.25 tax), 2.26 money factor. Car is being discounted from $38k+ down to $34k+.
So, is this a good deal? Please help as I would like to grab this deal if it's good one as I am madly in-love with the car BUT only if it's a fair deal. Thanks in advance.
You can buy that car for $583/mo plus tax for 60 months.. assuming sale price of $34K and $3K down.. 4.9% interest..
Now, a $100/mo. difference might be significant if you were leasing for only 36 months.. But, a 51 month lease? Much better off to buy the car instead, or look into leasing a new one for no more than 42 months..
I don't really have any comment on whether the sale price is a good buy.. Don't really follow the market for used Audis...
regards,
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If you think the car is a good buy.. and I'll leave that to you... (it does sound nice), then I would look into purchasing it... They may even have some low finance rates on CPO cars... If you could get a rate lower than 5%, that would be even better..
regards,
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I picked up the car last Thursday and it's been a thrill. With 10" of snow expected tonight and tomorrow, the quattro will get its first test!
To anyone out there considering the A4, get it, you won't be dissapointed.
All the best in the new year gang,
Ro
I am considering a few different cars and have maybe 60-90 days before I need to take delivery of a vehicle.
I know that A4 prices will be better and choices fewer as the new model launch approaches. Anyone who is out in the market, or otherwise has a sense, please let me know how the inventory of 2005 A4s is holding up.
Has anyone heard that their choice, (ie; transmission, color, interior, etc.), is rare and can't be located or had?
My decision is a little price sensative on the A4. There are more expensive cars I prefer (Acura TL if one that doesn't vibrate is available), I think. But, as the lease prices fall, this might be too good to pass up. This is especially true if anyone is finding 3.0 prices falling as the advertised 1.8T package has.
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Ultra sport
Premium
Xenon
Cold Weather
Bose Stereo
Moro blue paint
Dealer quote: $35,800 USD
Does this seem in line with what everyone would expect to pay given the fact that a new model is coming out in two months? I was hoping for a better deal than this but I haven't negotiated with him much as of yet.
Thanks in advance!
5 manual
Silver/Silver Leatherette interior(I know, this sucks!)
Cold Weather package
Sport Suspension package, 17" tires
Xenon Lights
Heated front and back seats
Tinted windows
Bose system (6 front CDs)
56,000 Miles
Cruise
Sunroof (power)
No power seats
Power windows
Security System
Well, my friend would like get this car, but he wants to know if you guys know of any good third party extended warranty companies that are reputable. He does not want to buy this car without some sort of warranty, as he is afraid that something might go wrong with it in the future.
Do you guys advise to get an extended warranty? How much do they cost? and do you know a good company?
Thanks to all in advance
R
The best place to get advice on different aftermarket products is in our Extended Warranties discussion, so please post questions there and we'll try to help you.
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