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Just curious...
On another note, "Consumer Reports" where you can order "pricing reports" has NOT posted 2008 Accord prices.
https://ec.consumerreports.org/ec/aps/order.htm?INTKEY=nc5-crpricepg
All good things,
George
Cheers,
George
Sounds like a bargain you have. What is the color and particulars? What shape is it in, accidents, interior and tires?
Sounds like the salesmen are doing a good job on you creating an air of desperation around the coupe's availability. "You better sign up right now or they're going to be all gone and you'll have to wait till next year to get a coupe!!"
Even if they don't have one right this moment, there should be plenty coming when they start shipping at full speed.
Not as many people will buy the coupes because they may need the 4-door practicality, so naturally they are going to build less coupes. They will build as many as they feel confident they can sell and then adjust production during the year to match the actual sales pace. There is no reason to restrict the production to an artificially low number since it isn't a "limited production" type vehicle that needs to be sold in low numbers.
I'm sure they will be low numbers for all the new Accords at the very beginning just because that always happens at the launch of most new vehicles. It takes a little while for production to fully ramp up.
Are you familar with the popularity of the Civic SI ? The Accord coupes are enjoying a similar supply/demand situation - as I have talked to multiple dealerships in four states I believe this to be true...
There were no Red LX-S coupes near-by- and even if their were- dealers aren't likely to trade them b/c of the small number of them compared to the high volume sedan.
I was offered a silver or black LX-S from one dealer- with 800.00 off sticker I might add and full kelly blue book for my trade- but I have no interest in these colors. This dealer wasn't willing to order what I wanted- so I went to an out of state dealer who was willing to order one and...
I ordered one- that will be specially built for me- in ohio or japan- and will arrive sometime in november- it is exactly what i wanted- as of right now- the configuration i desired - doesnt exist ; )
Maybe there will be the same low production for the EXV6 6-speed manual or some sportier future Accord version, but certainly not the "base" Accord LX-S coupe.
The car just is just being released and is not even officially on sale until September 20th, so of course, there will be difficulty finding a specific color and trim vehicle at the moment. This is normal, but it will change within weeks.
It'll be interesting to see how the new coupes sell since they have never been that popular in the past compared to the sadans.
V4 sadans.
George
I called Kolbe Honda in Los Angeles and asked them if they were going to stay with the sticker price and I was told the they were going to mark-up the price!
It's insane that people will pay those prices, but they're out there or else the dealerships wouldn't be doing this.
Needless to say, I'm holding out for a reasonable price. I've been waiting for this car for a long time, but I'm no sucker. If anyone has any feedback on any good Honda dealerships in Southern CA it would be greatly appreciated
Some people feel the cars are a great value at MSRP!
The only "value" in buying them at MSRP is that you're first on your block to show them off around town.
Most people know if they wait 2 or 3 months, they'll be able to get them for under MSRP so it's not worth it to them to pay a "premium" to get it early.
As a salesman, you'll make more money off of the early adopters and that's fine. And then you'll lower the price to get the rest of them sold once your lot starts to fill up with plenty of inventory. The people who buy later at a lower price won't get any less "value" than the early adopters.
Not everybody cares all that much about saving a few bucks.
Clearly the market (supply/demand) dictates the selling prices of vehicles.
Most people realize upfront the 2008 Accords will sell at or over MSRP due to new introduction model. Dealers realize some customers will pay a premium to be the first group of drivers with this new vehicle.
Also, on the other hands dealers were forced to sell 2007 Accords at a discount due to large inventory on-hands prior to the launch of the 2008s. This became a buyers market.
Some customers feel a 2007 Accord at a hugh discount is a better value that a 2008 at MSRP, so it is a matter of perspective. Remember in this forum many buyers enjoyed the 2007 Accords selling at a discounted price.
So let the dealers enjoy their profits with the new product selling at MSRP or greater it will not last long as the supply is increased over time.
Customer should also note paying MSRP or greater for a vehicle increases the chance of becoming upside (negative equity) down if the vehicle is stolen or totaled in an accident.
ddwmew
We all know from the addendum window sticker wheel locks, pin stripes, mud guards and a truck mat add $595.00 to the value of the car.
If its totaled surely the insurance company will add this value back into the car!
I think you are real close. . . maybe they would only go down a $100 or $200 more. . .. . I'd take if you've already offered $19,999 . . .
I got my 4 banger Accord SE Auto for $17,693 and that was a heck of a good deal. . . . .$2,300 more for the V6 is on target.
Anybody got any good deal from DFW area lately?
Give the guy a break. It's only his fifth post.
You are suggesting the dealer give up all profit on this car. Little reason for a dealer to lose money.
The car I ordered - or rather- the car the dealer ordered for me as its only allocated coupe till october- isn't anything outrageous- just a plain LX-S coupe with a manual tranny- which they ordered right in front of me- and I have already placed a deposit on it so when it arrives - it is mine
Hopefully, you won't have to wait too long for it.
Incentive dollars go to the DEALERS. This isn't customer cash. NOW, if the dealers are able to use some of these dollars to make some great deals, that is a good thing for both sides. A dealer will do whatever it takes to move product and stay competitve but they have to make money in order to stay in business and be profitable.
For the umpteenth time, holdback IS NOT bottom line profit. It HELPS defray some of the flooring costs. In addition, dealers have this little thing called OVERHEAD!
Still, some people thing that wringing every last drop of blood out of a deal is the thing to do and I guess I have troble understanding that concept.
Oh, and the holdback on a V-6 SE would be less than 500.00.
Carry on...
How can they have 30 orders when they're only allocated one coupe per so many days ?
A customer requests a red 5 speed LX Accord coupe.
The dealer takes a deposit and adds it to his allocation and sends it in.
In order for Honda to produce this car, they have to have at least 29 other orders for that exact same car.
Now...
It's a coupe...not nearly as many are built as sedans.
It's an LX. Not as popular is EX's.
It's a 5 speed. Not nearly as popular as sutomatics are.
It's red. Not a **bad** color, just far from the most popular.
Hard to tell when they will get 30 requests for this exact car but in the case of the poster, I hope this happens quickly!
Isellhondas just tried to explain that. It's not 30 orders from that one dealer. It's 30 orders from all dealers to the factory. Once the factory has 30 orders for the exact car you ordered, they will then produce a run of them and ship them to whichever dealers have ordered them.
If you're in CA, you might want to stay away from Honda of Oakland. A user from another site/forum posted this thread and photos to show. Check out the pics in this thread.
$32K for an I4 EX-L NAVI!
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12877
:surprise:
I started shopping last week because of the incentives I think I got a Deal
Silver/Grey 07 Coupe EX-L auto it had wheel locks mud gaurds and some other dealer installed CRAP
Price was $26,859
I paid $20,500
W/tax and fees
OTD was $21,368
I was Happy but they weren't
Muwahhhhhhh!
What vehicle did you trade in, the Camry?
As long as you're not in a huge hurry you should be OK.
Good Luck!
it was less than what i expected but I shoped it around and the best offer i got was 14,300 06 and older Camrys are cold right now I even went looking for a used one to see what price they would sell it for I found 1 similar to mine and they would have sold it for 15,100 and with a bit more negotiation It would have been at least 500.00 less the asking price was 16,000 so after that I knew it was a fair trade offer.
Honda has been very lucky to be at the top of the list in terms of resale value. I would guess that a large share of the people who post here are looking at Honda not just for a great car, but for long-term resale value as well. However, resale values have begun a downturn.
It used to be that Honda was a safe bet in terms of TCO and resale value. Afterall, Honda has no "fleet" department and has never offered a consumer rebate or 0% financing. From time to time Honda does offer retailer's some dealer cash, not a consumer rebate. While most dealers are happy to share some of the dealer cash, they are not required to.
Back to my point: As a direct result of cheap selling new Honda's, used Honda's are now deprecating as fast as a Toyota.
So, keep that in mind next time you try to pinch every last penny out of your dealer. Dont be offended when you dont get what you thought your car was worth on trade-in.
They don't care.