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Like most rules of thumb, this one is thumb-times wrong. If the configuration truly is desirable and fairly rare, it may well continued to be so prized in the pre-owned market that it will maintain its relatively higher value. It all depends on if the buyers who appreciate the distinction are there to see it....
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if you're the kind who keeps a car a few years and then trades, i'd stay away from manuals...
if you run your cars into the ground, no big deal.
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Check out Gillman, McDavid (my choice), John Eagle, etc. Their stock is usually listed on their website so you know what they have before you email them.
I loved driving the 6-speed, but in the end decided that I would have to get an Accord or TSX auto. I only keep cars for 2 years or so, and resale is a big concern. Heck, I had a hard time selling my 97 Civic EX 5-speed in 99. Everyone wanted an automatic--in a Civic!
Goodson will give you a great price up front. Gillman you have to be a little more knowledgeable. In being informed you can get almost the same price as Goodson; if you work real hard maybe better.
John Eagle has higher prices but has a lot of dealer features: Loaner cars, car washes, etc. But living in SA you probably couldn't take advantage of them.
McDavid is good, but not the best price.
Sterling McCall is a small dealer that sells the 6-spped at MSRP an doesn't allow test drives.
I did everything over the Internet and had a great experience. Although you are in SA, the dealership has treated us great and the extra's are nice.
We worked with Gillman acura as well. They were tremendous, we just liked the Accord better.
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I got the loaded Accord--EX/V6/Leather/Navigation. My deal was a bit complicated since I traded in my leased '02 Jeep Liberty, which had enormous negative equity. Still, I had figured out that I had about $7K in negative equity, and I drove out the door at $563 for a 36 mo/15K lease, paying the first payment only. They did not haggle or try to change the terms--I did it all via email. I'd proposed a price of $26,300, but I think I actually got it for cheaper.
Hope that helps! It's a fabulous car. I had wanted an Infiniti, but the Accord more than satisfies my requirements. It's smooth, accelerates great, and the XM and Nav are too cool. The car has surpassed my expectations and even my 18 year-old daughter likes it. Good luck!
Terrific buying experience at Buerkle Honda (White Bear Lake). Got a quote from them via Honda web site, made an appointment, and our test drive, negotiation, paperwork was all handled professionally and quickly (we had our 2 little kids with us, and it was important to us not to have to be there any longer than we needed to!)
And, the temperature here in Minnesota went above zero today, first time since Tuesday! Yay! (Yes-- winters here can be absolutely miserable!)
On Monday, I'm going to go drive an Accord coupe with the V6 and 6 speed manual transmission. The dealer appears to be willing to negotiate on the price. The only negative is the color, which is black. Make that a double negative - the interior is black too. A very hot combination considering the infernal climate here in south Texas.
Besides the heat factor, can anybody tell me about the black paint used on these cars? I know from past experience that some manufacturers' black paint can scratch easily, revealing swirl marks and the like if not careful when washing the car. I'm just wondering if Honda's black paint should be avoided, if possible.
Too bad the car isn't silver or white. That's what my ideal choices were. Oh well, beggers can't be choosers, right?
Again, thanks in advance for any info.
h0udini
checked the 2 two dealers inventory and the other
6 speeds I looked at are still there. There may
not be on the lots but their not moving quick in
this area. My car is the black on black. If you
want the beige interior you have to get white or
red. The heat hasn't been an issue since it doesn't get above 30 degrees in the Valley Forge
PA area anymore. No issues or problems with the
black paint after a month of snow and ice.
Earlier in the day, had a verbal agreement w/salesman & manager @ Honda Cars of Boston. Deal was $17,500, then $800 for same Volvo. Verbally agreed upon twice!!!, then sales manager reneged. NOT a pleasant experience.
Cars that attract few buyers as new cars are even harder to sell as used.
I'm almost 6'3" and I felt the car didn't have as much headroom as I would have liked. My hair was brushing against the headliner. Are others my height having this problem? Too bad the sunroof on this model wasn't an option, because it lowers headroom an inch or so.
What a shame, the price on the car was outstanding - $22,250 before TTL. It only had 9 miles on it when I drove it. If anybody reading this is interested, the car is at Gunn Honda in San Antonio.
Stopped in on Saturday, drove the car, got a 3.9%/60 mos loan and drove it home. They should all be that easy!
Gunn Honda in SA sold me a brand new '04 EXL V6 Auto(with 2.7 miles on it) for $22,250 + TTL. Same price that Houdini mentioned for the 6MT.
ghulet,
I agree that people should buy what they like. Selling a five speed Accord in the paper will attract the same buyers that walk in a dealership.
Probably 19 out of 20 buyers will pass on the five speeds. It could take a long time to sell, or it could get quickly snapped up by one of the few who are looking for a stick.
Even though the price was a steal, the color and the headroom issue were concerns for me so I felt it best to pass on the deal.
Makes no sense.
You shouldn't really have to negotiate. Read the site and download the spreadsheets at www.carbuyingtips.com. Once we were ready to buy it took about an hour to make offers. Bought it from my bedroom. :-)
We went back into the office were he put the numbers together. He showed me a figure of $34,840.(Here we go I thought, I’ll be leaving soon.) I told him I would give him $26,500 out the door. He took it to his sales manager. He came back and tried to pull some funny math and said I was only paying $23,XXX for the car. I explained to him that the figure of $26,500 was as follows. Invoice, plus $500, plus destination, plus tax, it would give them about $200 to play with for registration. I told him I knew what the invoice was (thank you Edmunds TMV) and that’s what I was willing to pay plus a little more. I explained that only a fool pays MSRP and only an idiot pays $4000 over MSRP.
He came back and tried to explain about a $499 administration fee, he explained that this went directly to the owner of the lot (Mr. Germain). I asked him if I added $500 if we had a deal making it $27,000 out the door. He said “yes”, we shook hands and started the paper work. The sales manager asked me not to tell anyone the price I paid, she said I had obviously had done my homework and was well prepared. She mentioned that she was glad that not all of the costumers did their homework like I did.
I might have been able to get a better deal, however I am happy and the dealership is happy, and I did not have to travel all over Florida, although I would have to get a good deal. According to Edmunds the TMV for what people are paying is $26,848 plus tax, tag and title.
Thanks for all the help.
Selling price $24,768.06
Doc Fee $499
Sales tax $1,516.44
Waste tire fee $6.50
Tag fee $189.50
Agency fee $20.00
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Total $27,000
Again, good deal and have fun (and watch out for cops, red is a ticket magnet!).
Chris
Purchase price $23665.00
Deal Admin fee $498.00
FL waste fee $6.50
Tag $100.00
TOTAL PRICE $24269.50
I leased this through American Honda Finance at $337 per mo. with NOTHING down!!!!! Car had 20 miles at delivery and the dealer gave me FREE Honda splash gaurds. Supposedly, there were only (4) V6 6 speeds in the state on the day that I purchased.
The break in period isn’t too bad, no hard starts for 600 miles and no heavy breaking for 200 miles.
I really like the XM radio; I will purchase it after the free trial period is over. Enjoy the car!!
I live in the Scranton area of PA, and had to trade my 99 EX accord w/90000 miles.
I did get a quote of 24144, but the place was over 100 miles away, and wouldn't give me a ballpark figure on a trade.
Went to Burne honda (in Scranton), told them the offer I had, they told me they would sell it to me at invoice.
24,344 (includes destination).
Offered me 6000 for my trade in, negotiated to 6500. I paid full retail for splash guards and moonroof visor.
I am taking advantage of the low financing Honda is offering.
PA has a 6% sales tax, tire tax 5.00, title fees 33.50 docu. fees 55.00,registration fee 26.00 splash guards and moonroof deflector 214.00.
total OTD price 25724.00 less 6500 trade 19250.17.
I think I did ok. I felt very confident with what I've read here, mostly the town discussion.
If you're in this area I recommend you stay away from Motoworld, they'll gorge you on trade-in and tell you their only making 95 bucks (over invoice).
I'll appreciate any comments on how I did, considering I feel like a student and all you subscribers my mentors!
Best advice I've read, negotiate car price and negotiate trade in as two seperate deals.
Also, how much are people paying for fog lights?
Is XM really worth 10 bucks a month?
Thanks again, you're impact reaches many!!!!!!
There's been some conversation about the XM radio in our general Honda Accord discussion - you might want to follow that link and use the Search This Discussion feature on the page bar to see what others have said.
Have fun!
$ 51 Documentary Fee
$ 120 4 piece gold emblem kit installed
$ 100 4 piece all season mats
$ 88 Cargo Tray
$ 250 Auto dimming mirror installed
$25,109 Total before tax
$ 945 7 yr/100K Honda Care 0 deductible warranty
Got a price of $26011 (including dest) + tax,lic,doc. No dealer add-ons, no warranties. Also got the Honda auto loan for 2.9%APR.
I am very happy with the car, the experience and the deal I got. Thanks to all the helpful posts on this board.