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Are you talking about the Edmunds article? That's their very first fill up. Over the past two months, I've averaged about 19 mpg in my manual Altima 3.5, and that's with 80% stop-and-go, 30-mph-speed-limit driving.
Isn't it obvious? Look at his user name. :-)
afty and thats with a manual , what do you see the auto getting ?>
My point exactly! I care a lot more that my car is the better car and not whether or not it sells more (either more varieties or just more total cars). In fact, I see high volume cars as a negative because I don't want to see my same car coming and going everywhere I go. I'd much rather have a low volume, more unique car. Thus, I wouldn't mind if I had the only model of a car on the road and that no one else bought the car. This is why I would never buy a Camry, Accord, Jetta, Taurus, etc. For one thing, I'll never be able to find my car in an airport parking lot!
May be you ought to buy an Aston Martin. I have never seen one driven on the road, ever in my life
Did Motorweek do a road test on the G35 last night? If so, what did they say? I had planned to watch Motorweek on Speedvision last night but somehow forgot. :-(
Low volume does not equate to bad cars. If so, the Porsche 911 and BMW M5 must be pieces of crap. Conversely, high volume does not equate to good cars. If so, the Ford Escort and the Chevy Cavalier would be the most awesome cars ever to hit the American roads.
I'm hoping the G35 will be that rare commodity......a great, relatively low-priced car that sells in low volumes.
Not great. Maybe a 6 speed auto would be in order. LOL.
Now everyone back to the G35, the whole thing, not the manual v. auto thing.
We must all agree, by now, that they should release the manual initially for MARKETING purposes, but that yes, most people will by the auto.
Infiniti hasn't said anything to us about no test drives. However there aren't that many cars in the states yet. Also the G-35 I drove was a pre production model. We only had the car for a few hours due to the fact that it had to go to the Chicago auto show for display. It was very fast. But I was told the production cars will be faster.
they are doing the finishing touches on the car so the ones you buy will be faster. I cant see how they could improve on the performance of this car, other than the 280 HP. version that will follow. I'm just as excited as the rest of you out there about this car!
The coupe may be 280 HP. However Infiniti is going back to their roots as a High Performance manfacture, so maybe we will see 280 HP. in the 4 door as well. We'll all have to wait and see. How about all wheel drive? Infiniti is going to become a leader, we'll see the others in our rear view mirrors while they eat our dust.
BTW, if the auto goes 0-60 in 6.5 sec than we can probably assume the 6-speed manual will be well under 6.0 sec, maybe as fast as 5.5 sec?
P.69 G35 0-60 is 6.5 sec est
P.115 Beetle 0-60 6.5 sec, too (stick shift)
Somehow I have the feeling that a production G35 can do 5.9!! not 6.5
I couldn't agree more!!
LOL
Maxima: Auto is rated 20 city/26 hwy, 6-speed manual is rated 21 city/28 hwy
Although if the G can get into the high-fives, that would be sweet.
Can't wait to see the published number when real cars are finally tested!
If the gearing posted is correct, then it will be around 3k at 70 mph.
We have: 2587RPM @ 70MPH
2217RPM @ 60MPH.
Not so bad. Beside it's a VQ. How many of you have accidentally turned off overdrive in your Maxima / I30/ I35 and driven for miles on the highway before noticing it? I know I have. These engine are so smooth and quiet.
As for gas mileage, for comparison, the Lexus IS300 does 18/25. So 18/24 for the G35 is not so unreasonable considering the extra 45HP! I think Infiniti did the right thing to sacrifice a little gas mileage for better performance. For someone spending $30k+ on a sport sedan, the gas is a really small thing. Compared to a 330i which has a better EPA rating of 19/27 (23avg), for someone who drives 15,000 miles a year, we are talking 60 more gallons of gas a year! 6 dollar a month! Not that big a deal for me to drive a G35.
i do agree that most cars need the last gear aimed toward cruising, low rpm, high gas mileage, and NOT for acceleration. that's what downshifting is for.
Hear! Hear! We can't expect both high performance AND great fuel economy. There has to be some compromise somewhere.
I do hope that the engine does not get too raucous at high speed.
BTW, Motor Trend said that the ride is as good at 100 mph as it is at a lower speed. That must be a good sign.
However, they may have to fire Mr. Csaba Csere and replace half of its editorial staff before they put a G35 ahead of a 330 or 530. (LOL)
I agree with tco99 about the smoothness/quietness of the VQ engine. This engine is so smooth and quiet I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference between 2500 and 3000 rpm at highway speeds.
That said, the G35's gas milage will suffer with such aggresive gear ratios. This is the trade off (that many of us are willing to accept) for better performance.
The car accelerates like heck and cruises effortlessly at relaxed RPMs at high highway speeds. When you pass, you DOWNSHIFT. Not unlike how when you accelerate over time and get up to speed you eventually have to upshift. Everyone isn't driving around holding 2nd or 3rd gear all day!
IS300 gets terrible gas mileage due to its boy-racer gearing. My '98 540i 6-speed manual with 4.4L V-8 gets 24 mpg on highway, turning over at 74 mph at about 2,100 RPMs. Why have a smaller, lighter car with smaller engine that is less efficient??? Infiniti should follow Acura and avoid Lexus' mistake.
The interstates in my area include 65 mph, 70 mph, and 75 mph posted limits. You can drive about 9 mph over without a ticket. Driving effortlessly in a relaxed manner at 74 mph, 79 mph, and 84 mph is important to me.
My experience is colored somewhat by my last car, which had a small 4-cylinder turning 4000 rpm at 80 mph.
Hope to hear from you before Feb 22 via the Talk to the Press discussion or at jfallon@edmunds.com with your thoughts and contact information.
Thanks as always,
Jeannine Fallon
PR Director, Edmunds.com
Both my wife and I noticed the difference after road trips, which we do often (and they are typically longer than one might do in the Northeast). A trip in the Acura was effortless and we would arrive refreshed after 250, 400 or 700 miles. The Maxima would wear us out after the same drives.
Both cars carried virtually the same MSRP and the same creature comforts.
While my opinion is subjective, and in a lot of respects intangible, there was a noticable difference in the two.
BTW, the Acura TL was never in serious contention on my short list because it has two, well three, major flaws: 1) no manual; 2) it's FWD; and 3) Too many already on the road so it's too common.
Wow! Now just get me the car and let me like it and we have a confirmed sale.