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-juice
I've been in moderate confusion of the several reviews of the G where they claim that there is little to no wind noise at all... They do cite reference to the tire/road noise on concrete and very little on smooth asphalt and I have definitely witnessed that, but the absence of wind noise assessment is a bit troubling to me.
What I have noticed is that at anything under 90mph wind noise is generated by the largish windshield wipers. There is not enough of a fairing effect on the rear of the hood to deflect the airflow up and over the aerodynamic "dirtiness" of the wiper arms and you can actually hear the noise at a moderate level and very distinctly as passenger if you move your head close to the windshield...
Also, if you turn the wipers on while at speed you you can hear the alternating "whoosh" and "silence" as the wipers move thru their arc.
It is just a guess but I am thinking that the reason that the noise diminishes greatly at 90+ is that the pressure area around the bottom of the windshield increases and causes the airflow to lift above the wiper arms...
Try it sometime on the freeway, not the 90+ thing! *laughing*, but the turning on the wipers and listening for the change in sound...
I could just as easily be full of it!
Faenor/Dane4
The coupe just looks amazing. I've been interested in the G35 for awhile and tried convincing myself that the sedan was what I wanted...and it's nice, don't get me wrong, but it's not as exhilarating as that coupe!
Can't wait for November!
The first photo makes a perfect wallpaper on your desktop pc.
If you balk and go to another dealer, you'll be at the back of the line at the 2nd dealer, right? I wonder how many Coupes Nissan is thinking of shipping over here per year?
The M45 on the other hand looks like it was born with gray hair, bad eyes, and dusty farts.
Apologies if I'm repeating, but there's no way I can keepup with all of the posts on this board and keep my job! An interesting feature at the Infiniti dealerhsip that I haven't heard: a specific salesman is named to specialize in one model of the car and it's his job to know "everything." This is Sal Hansford at Inskip and he really does know the ins & outs.
How come no one makes a fuss over the washers? Mounted on the blades, they will be more effective, especially at speed, than any design I've seen.
My estimate: the comparison to the BMW is deserved. In spite of all the boyish chest beating that has gone on here, the car is very fine. The comparison to the Altima is also well-deserved. Now, why the Nissan designers allowed this to happen is beyond me -- certainly being a different platform made it so they were free of the constraints they found with the Altima. Fortunately, both cars are beautiful, and the G has enough differences that you're not going to get confused in a parking lot, or at least not like you can if you own a TL and it parks near and Accord.
The emerald mist is stunning in the sun, not so hot in the shade. FYI, the blue is the same as is available on the Q45, for those who have struggled to find it (according to Sal). The rest of the colors are sort of dull. In size, the car (by feel, not dimensions) is between the 330i and the 530i, with a trunk only a bit larger than that of the 3 series.
Inside, I had no problem with the things people complain about: couldn't even find a "bump," and I found the black interior clean, intuitive, and high quality consistent for its price. (If you want more, you'll have to pay more, like always.) I really liked the airiness and brightness of the cabin.
My guess is that people who claim that it will "blow away" the 330 or the 530 and maybe even approach the 540 most likely are coming from a car that was cheaper, or a loaded version of a cheaper design, maybe a Volks or a Maxima, all fine cars but not in the same class as the G is aspiring to at all. That, combined with a lack of significant experience with a BMW, could be very misleading. Certainly the G can outaccelearate the smaller engines, the 325, 328 ... and the ride is very similar.
Steering: precise and moderately heavy, similar to 530.
Steering feel: good, but not so good as the 530/330.
Suspension: well-planted, but maybe a little too easy to "surprise." (More time needed:-) I would have no need for the sport suspension as this was "just right," like the BMW.
Transimission: shift points are perfect for auto driving; doesn't drop a gear unless you really mean it. Auto/manual gate is on the wrong side, away from the driver, imo. But it has a nice touch.
Engine: eager, powerful. Similar to the 3.0 series in the BMW again, but not so smooth. (I've never found a V that was a smooth as an inline.)
Brakes: Exceptional! Firm and steady ... I used them a lot, and in one 'emergency' that would have been if the brakes hadn't 'seen' the truck deciding to turn in front. Absolutely lovely.
Exhaust noise: Good volume under power, but a little 'metallic' and artificial(?), I thought.
Seating: Shoulder room and bolsters were very good, except in my thighs, especially on the right. Not a problem, but I could have been more comfortable.
I would truly like to try a 6M, so I asked Sal about the coupe. He said that his GM has just come back from a meeting of some sort and they are trying very hard to get the date moved up as they want to ride on the popularity and interest they have now. I don't know what to make of this. He wasn't trying to sell me and I believe that he believes it will happen, but .... and maybe they'll have better colors for that one.
I asked him about the M45 and the rumor I'd heard here that it would compete with the 5 series of BMW with its V8. He said that was not correct. This one he said would sell mid-40s and ride more like the Q.
Anyway: I had a great time and conclude that this car is a terrific bargain. (Doh.)
Take care.
Joe W.
-Infiniti is the only automaker that I know of that offers 20 different shades of grey.
I had washers in the wiper arms on my Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and they were OK. I did not think that it was a particularly special feature.
I prefer the washers in my Chrysler 300M that shoot three streams each from nozzles on the hood.
Thanks to all the reviews and advice from everyone, I finally took the plunge tonite.
I have been lusting after this car for the last 6 months and now it is in my driveway
It's a beautiful car. You have to see in person, the picture does not do it justice. The ride and handling is superb. BMW is still the standard for all sport sedan in my view, however this G is pretty darn close in handling even with the non-Sport suspension. I will give the G an edge for over all performance dued to 260 Hp and 260 ft/lb torque.
I actually test drove the G twice and each time the salesman was cool, he let me push the car pretty hard. Even without sport suspension, there were hardly any body roll through this back road, twisty course. I can imagine how tight it would be with the sport package. I was able to see the VDC (vehicle dynamic control) at work, I did fast circles in this tiny island, and I was actually glued/pin to my seat. The VDC assisted the braking whenever I oversteer or understeer (very impressive).
I got brilliant silver on graphite interior. I love the design on interior, clean and ergo looking. The titanium looks good on black also. I opted not to go for premium or sport package, if I wanted luxury I would have gone the Lexus es, I35 or Merc C320. I got what I wanted; bose, roof and leather. I really wanted xenon also, however most local dealers ordered xenon with premium package. So I will have to get my after market HID xenon elsewhere.
I'm really excited about this purchase. btw. I did test drive the BMW 330 also to make sure I won't have buyer remorse. The G wins for overall value. The G is about the closest you can get to a BMW without the extra 7k. Anyway, too many dam BMW's in this area (DC metro), I don't want a car that everyone has
I paid 500 us dollar off the MSRP, for anyone who is interested. This is one hot car! it will stay near MSRP for a while. Get it while it's hot.
Regards,
Tony,
I found the 330 a nice ride, as I had before. However, it fell short of the G35 in performance in many areas. The handling was slightly worse than the base G35 (see my previous message about my lack of respect for the sport package). Considering that this 330 had MUCH wider, lower profile, and higher quality tires than the G35 does, it REALLY doesn't speak well for its handling vs the G35.
The braking was about the same. Very similar with the ABS being noticable, but not in your face. I had the same problem with getting a smooth stop with the 330 that I (and others) have had with the G35.
The accelleration was definitely, resoundingly a step below (the recently quoted Car and Driver test supports this). The extra 35HP and additional 46ft-lb of torque of the G35 sure make a difference.
Hey, one thing I have to admit that BMW has ALL OVER the G35 is the drivers seat. The $1200 sport package comes with a pair of the best front seats that I have EVER sat in. They HUG you in place and it is a great feeling. I'd be WELL willing to spend $1200 on an equivalent sport package for the G35. Heck the seats are almost worth that much. (You really need to sit in them to see what I mean.)
So, the bottom line? Are the seats worth a full $7000 more in the BMW? No way! The G35 blows the 330i away in the value category. In addition to the superior performance, you get much more interior room (especially in the back seat) and a much larger trunk.
Thanks Infiniti for a real winner!
Scott
blueguydotcom - The quote about HP for the G35 coupe said "275-PLUS" HP. How do you figure that means less than 275HP? Or was "will not" supposed to be "will" be more than 275HP?
Also, where did you get the information about Nissan offering aftermarket performance parts for the G35's with warranties? Would LOVE to take a look!
ateixeira - I heard that the "Z" will be putting out ~300 HP from my Inifiniti dealer (or at least that what he said he'd heard).
montmax - Only .84G's?!? Heck, the Acura 3.2TL Type S did .83G's. I thought the G35 would have performed MUCH better than an Acura. Hmmm, maybe they were testing the Sport package. One good piece of news is that the 0-60 and 1/4 mile put the G35 solidly ahead of the 330i in speed.
68bullitt - I like your enthusiasm for the G35, but I can't see ANY way that a manual could cut 1.2 seconds off a 0-60 time (or 1/4 mile either). .2 to .4 seconds? Yes. >.5 seconds? I don't think so. (I WISH!
gandhim - For extra HP I wonder if we will be able to plug in the Coupe or "Z" computer chips and get some extra HP? (I hope!
neo_gtrw - My bet is it was the base model in the test. The Sport package isn't very good. I found the handling to actually be WORSE! I wish I had a "G" meter to do my own testing...
jwilson1 - In your description of "smooth" in relation to the 330i's engine, could you describe what you mean? I drove one today and did not find it any better or "smoother", just less powerful.
Scott
Scott
All the body kits that Infiniti is offering right now on the G35 are actually Nismo kits. Presumably sometime down the line as the G models get a bit more established, more goodies will be sent our way from Japan.
Enjoy your G,
Tony,
Back when Nissan announced Nismo and R-Spec this was included. You'd have to go through the nissannews.com site to find that. Nissan's doing exactly what Toyota, MB and BMW have done with TRD, M and AMG. They're finally encouraging tuning. Honda's about to jump into the fray too.
Scott
1. Manuals are usually faster by at least 0.5 sec vs. most automatics.
2. Extra 15-20 HP probably good for another 0.3 sec.
3. The wider rear performance tires (235s vs. 215s) will provide superior grip upon acceleration from a standstill good for probably another 0.2 sec.
4. The likely lighter weight due to the coupe being a shorter and smaller car with two less doors probably good for another 0.2 sec.
Thus, add this all up and I wouldn't be surprised if the coupe with manual is 1.2 sec faster than the sedan with auto in 0-60 mph.
I'm betting on 7 horsepower. Total. It'll be a really fancy Model T. Hopefully the crank won't be too visible on the front.
Scott
Scott
http://www.wingcast.com/products/index.htm
This G35 and the upcoming coupe model in November keeps amazing me!
http://www.auto.com/industry/infini29_20020329.htm
The G35 coupe is wider (2.6 inches). But, it's also lower (3 inches) and shorter (4 inches). I guess I just find it rather amazing that Infiniti managed to make the bigger G35 sedan body more aerodynamic then the smaller and sleeker looking G35 coupe.
I wanted to know if the Titanium interior only came with the sports suspension?
And which interior to people like best base,titanium, or wood?
Any pictures would be great
This may also explain why the sedan has narrow tires - compared to all the other sports sedan competitors.
"Unlike the sedan that went on sale in March, the coupe will be launched in November with the Z car's 6-speed manual transmission. The sedan will get the same stick a few months later. Infiniti estimates as few as 5 percent of buyers would opt for the manual, but the option is critical to sport-sedan credibility among enthusiasts and media."
The main thing I am worried about is a sports suspension so harsh that it knocks my fillings loose...