Honda CR-V Maintenance and Repair

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  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    BTW, I have the same unit, appears to be the same, mounted under the drivers seat in my Subaru.

    Make sure, before buttoning it all up, you advance the gain on the high and low adjustments. Does your car have separate tweeters? If not, just adjust the bass volume before you tighten it all. I didn't have the dealer do it, they left it at the factory settings, and I had to unbolt it, pull it out, and turn it up. ;)
  • gjbwjgjbwj Member Posts: 27
    Thank you for youe tips. I think mine had tweeters, since it is EX model.
  • battlestationsbattlestations Member Posts: 14
    I bought an 06 Civic EX sedan, and because of a paint problem, swapped for an 07 coupe EX w/sub. I tested both cars with a special cd with "no expense spared" mixes.I can tell you the OEM sub makes a huge improvement in the sound. Lets you keep all the clarity and crispness plus adds the punch that lets you "feel" the kick drums and bass when you crank it just a bit, and also allows you to get great sound at much lower volumes. One of the best OE car sterios I have heard. When someone comes up beside you with nothing but muddy, window rattling bass, you can show them how the artist meant for it to sound.
  • gjbwjgjbwj Member Posts: 27
    Thank you, that's nice
  • crv202crv202 Member Posts: 7
    I would like to change my O2 sensor by myself. From under the car there are two sensors going into the Cat. Which sensor should I change? I have codes P1166, 1167, 1164">
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Don't forget to go to Crutchfield or Best Buy and buy the connectors and what-nots you will need to connect it.

    The OEM kit comes with wiring harness and connectors that connect to the factory head unit. Then you route the harness to the sub under the driver's seat.

    Because of it's location, it is very good at getting your girl in "the mood" when she is driving by playing tunes with SOME bass. lol
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Oh, how hard to do it yourself. Is it easy to open those covers. There are several clips hooked them up. What caution I should pay without damaging the clips. Thanks

    It is not difficult if you know the difference between a screwdriver (not a drink) and hammer.

    Follow the instructions. It is pretty straight forward. Almost every one breaks a clip or two on their first Honda DIY project. :D
  • gjbwjgjbwj Member Posts: 27
    Thank you. Hopefully I will not break the clip on my first DYI
  • crv202crv202 Member Posts: 7
    After having codes read at AutoZone, I researched on internet and found a Honda Service Bulletin #02-028 regarding code 1164. It says the problem is a Honda Software problem and not a problem with the airfuel sensor. Since my car is a 2002, it is out of warranty. I asked the Dealer to check if they would repair the problem as a goodwill repair and Honda said no.What next? Go back to AutoZone for another check or do I replace the O2 sensor myself? Will that remove the code?
    Interestingly, Honda refunded my money for my replacing an O2 sensor on a 1996 Honda Accord as part of a recall even though the car is 10 years old.
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    The reason that your 1996 Accord was covered was due to a violation of the rules regarding emmisions testing of some 1996 and 1997 Accords. The Feds as a settlement, required Honda to extend the emmisions warranties out to 15 years or 150,000 miles for those Accords.

    If you remember as part of that settlement you got a free tune up at 90,000 miles. I just got a letter from Honda reminding me that my 1997 Accord was still covered and that if I had already paid for emissions repairs, to submit the bill for potential reimbursement.

    Jack
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    Error code P1164 manifested itself early on in most '02s by tripping the CEL. Since you didn't get the CEL then (or did you and they diagnosed something else) I can see why Honda won't cover it. Then again it is a known computer glitch from more than four years ago. I don't think the 02 sensor will fix that code, it is a computer issue. Try again with this info and maybe they will goodwill the repair.
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    Part 1 of your question, I would not ask the dealer to talk to Honda for you. I would suggest that you call Honda customer service yourself. They will assign you a case number and will give you a decision. While they may not have a blanket resolution that the dealer can tell you about, your situation will be judged on it's individual merits.

    I'm not sure if you will actually have to replace a sensor but I just replaced the air/fuel sensor (which some folks call the O2 sensor). There is a front and rear sensor. I forgot the code but for all intents it was a preheater function on the front one which went bad. Be prepared for sticker shock since the part alone is $200+ dependent upon the dealer (I found a $50 variance here in St. Louis). I found a Honda dealer on the east coast who mail orders parts and got the cost down to $190 or so without having to pay local sales tax. It was a snap to replace and it took care of the problem.

    Since that front sensor has a preheat function (the problem with mine), only buy the Honda unit. Most folks who bought the after market brands found that those replacement sensors do not always talk to the computer correctly and they still end up with a check engine light. Spend the $$ and do it right the first time.

    Jack
  • crv202crv202 Member Posts: 7
    Since I had no luck with Honda regarding code 1164,a goodwill repair of an out of warranty 2002 CRV, I went back to AutoZone for another check of codes. This time I no longer had codes 1164 or 1456. I still had codes 1298, 1166, 1167. This makes me believe that I indeed have trouble with my O2 sensor. I am getting close now to installing by myself a new O2 sensor and hope it fixes the MIL (Check Engine Light). From under the car it looks easy to replace. I am thinking of getting a Honda part as opposed to buying a Bosch at AutoZone.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Please be sure to inspect the cable (wire) from the unit. Many have been known to become burned or frayed, making the sensor seem to have failed. This is usually near its connection to the unit. ;)
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    I'm not sure what to tell you. I ran into the same issue with code P1164 and ended up replacing the air/fuel sensor. I did the job myself for the price of the part around $250 and the special socket for an additional $10. If the dealer said the computer needed updates then they should be willing to cover under the Federal Emissions warranty which is 7 years or 70,000 miles?. In my case I had to replace the sensor because resetting the computer did not clear. :confuse:
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    Correct, get the Honda part. The Bosch unit may not interface correctly into the computer. Lots of folks have talked about this over at the Honda CRV site. It's tempting to save a buck but too many have reported that the aftermarket sensors don't work well with the Honda computer.

    Jack
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    1166 and 1167 deal with the front air/fuel mix sensor. I was getting an 1167 on mine which noted a failure of the heater which is built into the sensor. The 1298 error is the Electrical load detector circuit high voltage error. I guess you go after the front air/fuel mix sensor first, reset the computer and see what you get.

    Jack
  • hondacrvgascaphondacrvgascap Member Posts: 2
    CRV malfuction indication light... BEWARE
    First time when it came on, at 10,000 miles, then 20,000 miles after that it's on/off with the cap/recap and trips to the dealership with the code P1456 and P1166...being told I wasn't capping it properly ...the three clicks...
    At close to 30,000 miles service, I was fortunate to have a service manager(she has since left) that look into my concern and noted the fuel gas cap was not properly sealing. I got a replacement under warranty. Not problem for about 2 yrs....
    Just before 60,000 miles service (out of warranty), the malfuction light came on again. I was told the Gas Cap failed the leak test, found code P1166 and P1456 again BUT this time the OXYGEN SENSOR need to be replaced(special order-because part is out of stock). I was charged a whooping $$87 just for the diagnosis and a new Gas Cap (NOT including the oxygen sensor replacement that will soon follow).
    So I am on my third gas cap with a 4.5 yrs old car.
    Can this constant problem with the gas cap cause the O2 sensor to breakdown eventually????
  • acarpersonacarperson Member Posts: 13
    I kind of doubt the gas cap problem has any effect on the O2 sensor. The O2 sensor is just that, a sensor. One of may sensors that provide input to the car's computer. There is another sensor that senses a loss of pressure in the fuel tank system (gas cap leak). The two do not affect each other. Kind of like feeling something with your right hand does not affect smelling something with your nose.
    I wonder if the sensor that is detecting a bad gas cap (or leak in the system) might have an intermittant connection that is occasionally telling the computer you haven't put the cap on right or that you have a leak.
    Did the dealer do a leak test on the 1st gas cap?
  • hondacrvgascaphondacrvgascap Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the O2 sensor explanation.
    Yes, the 1st cap also failed the leak test.

    All the caps initially went into smoothly then gradually seems to just get sticky.
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    Anybody run into this one? My '02 EX has a rough idle once in awhile when I first start in the morning cold. It feels like it is running on 3 cylinders until it warms up or I put into gear. The CEL is off and there are no codes stored. I replaced the air/fuel sensor about a month ago for a code P1167. I am considering replacing the oxygen sensor as well since my mileage is down a few miles per gallon. I replaced the spark plugs last year at 30,000 miles. Thanks :confuse:
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Well, that is usual in most any car when cold. Now that Winter has come to most of the country, I am not surprised. It is also good practice with any vehicle, and especially with one that has 35/40,000 + miles on it, to let it warm up three to five minutes before driving off. ;)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That's debatable - I lived in Anchorage for 20 winters and rarely idled my cars. Idling the engine does nothing to warm up the tranny or other systems and you'll corrode the exhaust system. Better just to put it in gear and ease gently out into the traffic. (link)
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    I'm thinking of starting it and then quickly running around to the back and taking a look at the tailpipe. Maybe the exhaust color will tell me something. Could one cylinder have some sort of moisture in it which burns off? :P
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    That's debatable - I lived in Anchorage for 20 winters and rarely idled my cars. Idling the engine does nothing to warm up the tranny or other systems and you'll corrode the exhaust system. Better just to put it in gear and ease gently out into the traffic. (link)

    I wholeheartedly agree with you. People think that if the heater is cold, or of they are cold, that the car is cold, but when the heater blows warm air the car must be warmed up. You are absolutley correct that warm engine does nothing to the tranny, nor the brakes, nor the power steering, nothing. People just do it so they feel comfortable, but you an excuse that the car needs it. The OWNER's MANUAL says that after strarting the car in the morning it can be driven after 1 (one) minute.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Steve! That's some Canadian study! :sick:

    "Unless it's below freezing, cars don't need to be warmed up at all. Driving them gently is the best warm up there is. If it's 25 degrees out, you might want to let it warm up for 30 seconds. If it's 10 degrees out, warm it up for a minute. If it's -10 degrees out, move somewhere warmer." :P http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/fueleconomy/

    "When you crawl out of bed on a cold winter's day, it probably takes you a little while to warm up. Your car, too, needs some time to warm up so it can be driven safely. Always start a car with your foot on the brake. You'll be sure not to lurch backwards or forwards, and the car will start more easily. You don't have to let the engine run on and on before driving away. About a minute is all that's needed to sufficiently warm up the engine."
    http://www.yins.ns.ca/tips/tip40a.htm

    First, this wears heavily on an engine, lowering its overall efficiency and the efficiency of parts related to it (including pollution controls). Next, most computers enrich the fuel/air mixture in a cold engine to make it burn more effectively and run properly. At idle, this process takes in very little fuel. However, at highway speeds, it requires massive amounts of fuel to move such a large object and make the engine run in a proper manner. Additionally, computer controls will prohibit a car's torque converter from locking up until the engine has warmed up, making the car run an average of 500 rpm faster to maintain the same speed. In three ways, not allowing a car to warm up destroys fuel economy in both the short and long term. Those driving Turbo's are also advised to not only warm them up before engaging drive, but to also cool them down in hot weather before turning off the car.

    A websearch turns up very conflicting information. Most automobile engineers say there is no need for warming up above 45*F or so, and at lower temps, a minute or two, at the most is advisable. I think lots of people think they need 5 or ten minutes, when a minute or two is all that is needed.

    Also, most people just want the car warm when they get in, especially someone living in Buffalo. Toronto or Detroit. A big help would be an engine block heater. :)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If it's -10 degrees out, move somewhere warmer.

    I did. :D

    I should eBay both my blockheaters I suppose. I rarely used them in Anchorage - when it got down to zero or 10 below F, I'd turn them on for an hour in the morning (if I remembered to plug the cars in the night before). I ran plain old oil up there too and didn't have a garage. Cars aren't wimps. Put 'em in gear and go.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Any chance you're an ex pilot, Steve? :P
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Nope - flying's ok, but I'd much rather drive cross-county in a new CR-V. :shades:
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    My experience is that "warming up" a standing car in very cold weather takes a LOT of time while driving (slowly!) for a few minutes gets the engine and other parts moving smoothly quite effectively and nicely. 30 below on the Snake River Plain (5000+ feet) is not all that rare.

    tidester, host
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Yes. Last year I took the Viper on its last long trip. The stinking &$#@!*% piece of #%&*@ !

    Great Falls in October. Boy did it complain and cry at every start up! Certainly it isn't a typical car, but the Murano is exactly the same...here in Reno it is down to 25 or so at night now, soon to the 10's, and I start it, come back to it in a couple of minutes. It is much happier, and drives without the cold valve chatter and knocking. ;)
  • jpfjpf Member Posts: 496
    If its really cold in your area and you have access to an electric outlet, consider having an engine block heater installed. Your car will be easier to start in cold weather, you save fuel, and it prevents engine wear. Good luck.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Yes, exactly what I said, two or so posts above..... :P

    Won't help the Viper, however....its headed for the scrap heap, lol.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    If its really cold in your area and you have access to an electric outlet, consider having an engine block heater installed. Your car will be easier to start in cold weather, you save fuel, and it prevents engine wear. Good luck.

    You may save fuel, but you will pay for the heater with your electric bill, unless you get free electricity.

    5W-20 flows well into -30's and 0W-20 flows at -40 or so. No need for electric heater. With the global warming rapidly rising overall temps, pretty soon Buffalo won't have much snow in the winter. As it is, I have lived here for 2 years, this is my third winter in Buffalo, I have only seen -10 once. Supposedly it was a regular occurence. And the lake used to freeze up in the winters, not anymore. Say there is no global warming.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    I will. Even though political comments, like you made, are seriously off-topic and inappropriate for these forums. ;)

    Variations of temperatures have been with the planet since it was formed. Colder and warmer cycles have been documented in Earth's history for all time.

    Now, some use the current warm trend to justify their own agendas and beliefs, but it does not make a real "emergency" or make fact that greenhouse gases, from technology, made it happen. Thousands, tens of thousands of years ago, massive volcanic eruptions, over hundreds of years, brought on ice ages. That's simply fact as well.

    Those who seek gain for their own purposes have done a masterful job of self-promotion and double speak, making a normal occurrence for the planet, seem like a dire emergency... :)
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    "Those who seek gain for their own purposes have done a masterful job of self-promotion and double speak, making a normal occurrence for the planet, seem like a dire emergency..."

    Geeeeesssssssh...!
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    We're not going to fight the global warming wars here so let's get back to topic. Thanks! :)

    tidester, host
  • db2db2 Member Posts: 10
    Wondering - I'm finding that if I'm going uphill and have to slow down for traffic, then hit my gas peddle, there is hesitation, then a jarring when it 'grabs and goes' - I'm wondering if anyone else has had this issue? I think I had better bring it in - I have a 2004 EX w/ 43K on it
    Thanks!
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    I think I solved my cold idle problem. I'm going to harness the hot air blowing around on the forum and heat my engine block with it!! :P
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    If you did that, you could heat the world! :P
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    I can already feel the polar ice caps melting. Uh-oh - my A/C vented R134 this summer also. Wait - that should be on the other board for climate control... ;)
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    Just 1000 miles old Honda CRV 2007 LX 2WD model, there is no reminder to tell us whether we kept the lights on. :mad: I left the lights on twice already and the battery got dead and have to call AAA both the times. Even the AAA guy is not happy how come 2007 honda doesn't come with lights reminder. I think the same. Is it only for the base model? I wonder what others do. Will that cause any effect to my battery or any other parts? ANy preventive measures that can be taken to avoid this?
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    How much will be the jump starter costs? Can I find good deals of it this thanksgiving? If so, where to look for them?
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Battery chargers can be found in any Walmart or K-Mart, anywhere in the world. You connect them, let them charge the dead battery, or use the jump-start setting on them to start your own car. They are not expensive. $30 and up.

    The battery will suffer some loss of life if it is completely discharged several times.

    As for the lights, that is indeed a failure on Honda's part. To prevent it happening again, stop and think what your Grandfather had to do. He had to remember to turn them off. ;)
  • lzclzc Member Posts: 483
    My 2007 CR-V emits a clearly audible warning chime the second I open the door with lights on and engine turned off. It works the same as it did on the Accord it replaced. It gets my attention every time.

    You might want to check with the dealer for a malfunction here.
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    I think he was expecting the "auto-off" feature. Even Kia has that. :P
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    Yes, the auto off feature!!!! I had 95 Camry before. It has that feature. Lights automatically goes off, when you switch of the engine and open the door.
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    My 2007 CR-V emits a clearly audible warning chime the second I open the door with lights on and engine turned off. It works the same as it did on the Accord it replaced. It gets my attention every time.

    You might want to check with the dealer for a malfunction here.


    I don't hear any warning chime. As you said, I will check with my dealer. Does this chime sound apply to all 2007 CRV models?
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    As for the lights, that is indeed a failure on Honda's part. To prevent it happening again, stop and think what your Grandfather had to do. He had to remember to turn them off.

    Well, my grandfather doesn't have to park in the busy parking lot and catch the bart train at 7:01 am :blush:
  • kay_jaykay_jay Member Posts: 33
    Battery chargers can be found in any Walmart or K-Mart, anywhere in the world. You connect them, let them charge the dead battery, or use the jump-start setting on them to start your own car. They are not expensive. $30 and up.

    The battery will suffer some loss of life if it is completely discharged several times.


    Thanks for the advise reg. jump starter. I didn't know that battery will suffer some loss.
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