Honda CR-V Maintenance and Repair

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  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    it's possible they tried to use a plier / wrench to tighten it. yes. hard to say if it is the original or not. either way, it shouldn't be necessary to use excessive force to put the new filter on firmly.

    you might find that to take the one that is on there off, you'll have to use a large pipe wrench, or even a specially designed thing that fits on the end of the filter.

    out of curiousity, how low is your current oil level? that 10K recommendation personally seems far far far too long. even 7.5K seems too long to me. if you had synthetic, I'd be willing to see 7.5K maybe, but with regular oil, I think 4-5K is a good change period.

    i remember hearing it's more important to change the filter than the oil. i have trouble believing that, but regardless, i think you're pushing the envelope on regular oil.

    just because your mileage is below average does not mean you don't fall under a "severe" schedule.
  • cbfr25cbfr25 Member Posts: 2
    The oil level is still full. New car should not consume oil, should it?
    I will use synthetic from now on and change oil more frequently.
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    Because of tighter tolerances and better machining, new engines should consume little if any oil if broken in properly. Oil changes are dependent upon mileage and the type of driving you do.

    I have an American vehicle that gets about 6,000 miles a year on it. All of the mileage is highway with adequate run times to heat the oil up. With that type of running and also using synthetics, an annual change is very adequate. Now change that 6,000 miles to stop and go, short trips, and the oil change frequency increases.

    My Accord hit 150,000 miles and most of the miles are highway oriented. I go about 5,000 miles between changes. Again these are good miles and dino oil should be able to give good protection based on this type of driving.

    Jack
  • darrengilsondarrengilson Member Posts: 3
    please could someone help soon, i am concerned about driving it and need to know
    many thanks
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Look in your owners manual, it will describe each warning light.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    you went 10K and the oil level is still on F.

    amazing.

    maybe yours was over-filled to some extent (maybe a 1/2 pint) to begin with. ;)

    yes since oil coats the cylinder walls, i believe it is practically impossible NOT to consume some oil at some rate. my accord and odyssey consume some oil, but not a lot. maybe 1/4-1/2 pint in 5K.

    if i switched to synthetic, 7.5K - 10K seems like a good interval. 4.5-5.5K for the regular stuff seems good to me also.

    people's opinions on the matter vary a good bit.

    i just think 10K is pushing it. specially with the regular stuff. always always put on a new, correctly sized good quality filter.

    i think if you've got a car that is an oil sipper, practically no-consumption, rejoice, but, check your oil on a regular basis anyway (every two fillups is what i do). if something that's working perfectly develops a problem, you want to catch it sooner, rather than later.

    enjoy.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    you went 10K and the oil level is still on F.

    amazing.


    It sounds like you expect oil loss between changes. As the other poster said that really shouldn't happen with a modern vehicle, especially a Honda. If a Honda is using oil between changes there is a problem. If the loss is being measured in ml that's ok, but more isn't normal. My $0.02.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    blueiedgod had said: "...the transmission retained the spacer reserved for the 6th gear. Some have replaced the spacer with the 6th gear... & now have 6th gear"

    Does this mean I could replace the spacer and add a 6th gear on my 2003 CR-V?


    Yes, people have done it on the other site
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    you went 10K and the oil level is still on F.

    amazing.

    It sounds like you expect oil loss between changes. As the other poster said that really shouldn't happen with a modern vehicle, especially a Honda. If a Honda is using oil between changes there is a problem. If the loss is being measured in ml that's ok, but more isn't normal. My $0.02.


    Expectation of no oil loss is from lack of understanding how engines operate and how oil is used.

    Regardless of the tolerances, oil will be used because if the oil scavanging ring removed all of the oil from the cylinder wall the friction would be so immnese the engine would not turn.

    After each pitson ride down an oil film at least (in perfect world) 1 molecule thin is left behind and is burned off. These layers add up to a mesurable amount over 5000 miles.

    Some looser engines allow some of the combustion byproducts in to the oil. The gases then condense and add to the oil level, which may give someone an impression that the engine is not losing any oil at all. The looser the engine, the more products get in. Some may even have higher oil level after 5000 miles than they began with. It is not good either.
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    There is a type of filter wrench which resembles a large pair of channel-lock pliers. The filter may be buried up against the firewall, above the suspension and hard to get to. On my '02 I actually end up reaching around the tire and using an end-cap type wrench. The dealers may not find it practical to keep a different wrench for every size oil filter that they may be changing so they use either the strap type or the pliers type. My oil change at the dealer had small dents around the filter also. It may be that after the scare a few years ago about fires resulting from improper installation of the replacement filter that the technicians are erring on the cautious side and slightly overtightening the filters.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    One of the posters implied he loses enough oil that he has to add some between changes (or should to bring it back to the normal level). Your explanation not withstanding, that isn't normal for a Honda.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    the rate of consumption should be very low, but a vehicle will burn oil as blueiegod described.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    One of the posters implied he loses enough oil that he has to add some between changes (or should to bring it back to the normal level). Your explanation not withstanding, that isn't normal for a Honda.

    Actually, Honda spec is 1 qt per 1000 miles as an acceptable oil loss.

    If there is no smoke out the tail pipe the oil loss is normal. It just means that the seals in are doing their job in preventing combustion by-products from getting into the oil.

    Having heavily contaminated oil is much worse than having to add some oil between oil changes. No oil loss gives the owner a false sence of security.

    If you have a vehicle that "does not burn a drop of oil" take out the dipstick and smell it right before changing oil. It will smell like gasoline. Open a bottle of oil and it does not smell like gasoline at all.

    Some of the smell is obviously attributed to the broken down olefin chains, but most of it is from combustion by-product contamination.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    I understand oil gets used. In 17.5 years of Honda ownership I have never had to add oil between changes. According to blueeyes I've had 17.5 years of false security (and nary a problem). YMMV
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    i've owned hondas for a decade. if i went a long period between changes (say 5-7K, yeah, my cars have burned perhaps a 1/2 quart or so). i didn't really have to add oil either as i didn't get below MIN on the stick did i? ;)

    blueiegod was backing up my assertion and providing some more background as to how the consumption occurs and how it may appear to you that you haven't consumed much if any.

    i'm sticking to my original assertion. at this point, we are arguing minutia. check next time between changes if your engine has consumed ANY oil. we say yes, you say no.

    there are great engines in these vehicles if you keep the oil changed on a regular basis.

    peace.
  • darrengilsondarrengilson Member Posts: 3
    hi, thanks for at least replying however i donbt have an owners manual. I bought my car as a [non-permissible content removed] import however i do have a technical manual which shows the back of the dashboard and all the warning lights except this one. It sems to be a [non-permissible content removed] thing.I have been told it is the immobiliser light, if this is actually the case then i am not too worried as the car starts and goes no probs. If you knoe any different i woild love to hear from you or anyone else who might know.
  • mnfmnf Member Posts: 405
    It would be better said that it was a JAPANESE thing or ASIAN thing. I am sure you ment well but perception is reality for many. Good Luck with your wiring light issue.

    MNF
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    why not call or write to honda? i'm sure you can acquire another manual.

    or try googling it. you can probably find one for sale on-line.

    i suggest you use japanese in your google search phrase.
  • fussycrvownerfussycrvowner Member Posts: 179
    OK so maybe this one sounds rather basic. :blush: What is the best way to check oil level? A cold engine before starting will usually show that the oil level is higher. A warm engine before letting the oil drain back into the pan will show that the level is low. How long should I wait with a warm engine to let the oil level settle to get an accurate reading?
  • jpcanaverajpcanavera Member Posts: 33
    Normally cold shows the most exact state of your oil supply. If the engine has been running, I'll normally check it after I finish pumping gas. That allows for time to get the oil back into the pan. The difference is really minor and not enough for you to be concerned about.

    In your specific situation, if you are that close the difference between measuring cold and when the engine is hot is not a big deal to the lubrication of your engine. The area between full on your dipstick and the add line is within the normal tolerances that your engine can run in.

    Jack
  • harvey44harvey44 Member Posts: 178
    Can anyone recommend a brand or style? We've encountered a few situations when they would be needed. Scary stuff.

    THANKS.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    warm or cold doesn't matter much to me, IMHO, it's more important in my opinion that you check the level on level ground without the vehicle on any sort of incline.

    when i do check the engine level warm, i do so a number of times in succession.
  • ted16ted16 Member Posts: 7
    Did you have any luck with Honda? Computer analyzer says my problem is driver side female seatbelt buckle. Sounds like we have same problem. Beat price I have found for buckle is $140 from Majestic Honda via internet. ted16
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Did you have any luck with Honda? Computer analyzer says my problem is driver side female seatbelt buckle. Sounds like we have same problem. Beat price I have found for buckle is $140 from Majestic Honda via internet. ted16

    Seat belts and hardware are warranted for life. You should not pay to have them replaced.
  • zengszengs Member Posts: 6
    I had 1998 Honda CRV~! It has 82000 miles on it.

    I had a problem.

    no matter what temperature is outsite. Every morning, I start up my car, the idle speed goes up to 1800 RPM.
    Couple more minutes later, the idle speed goes back around 1000 RPM.

    If anybody knows the issue, please tell me sa.

    I will really appreciate.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    I had 1998 Honda CRV~! It has 82000 miles on it.

    I had a problem.

    no matter what temperature is outsite. Every morning, I start up my car, the idle speed goes up to 1800 RPM.
    Couple more minutes later, the idle speed goes back around 1000 RPM.

    If anybody knows the issue, please tell me sa.

    I will really appreciate.


    Did you own any other car previous to the CR-V?

    I think it is called fast idle for a reason. Because it is fast. It is needed to warm up the engine quicker.

    After you have driven the car for a few miles, what RPM's is it running at?
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "blueiedgod had said: "...the transmission retained the spacer reserved for the 6th gear. Some have replaced the spacer with the 6th gear... & now have 6th gear"

    Does this mean I could replace the spacer and add a 6th gear on my 2003 CR-V?

    Yes, people have done it on the other site "

    That's pretty interesting, since the 2003 CR-V only had 4 gears normally, rather than the 5 gears used in the 2005 and later models...
  • ramanath_mramanath_m Member Posts: 7
    Hi All,
    Just Completed my first 3000 Miles on my 07 CRV. Please suggest when do I get it done my first Oil change and service.

    Your suggestions and tips will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks a lot for your reply.

    Regards
    Ram
  • zengszengs Member Posts: 6
    After the engine warms up, everything goes back to normal.
    Thank you for the response, though. :)
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    That should be in your owner's manual. Have you read it?
  • richk6richk6 Member Posts: 87
    Actually it's not in the 07 manual. You're supposed to use the Maintenance Minder system in the CRV's computer.

    Personally I printed out the maintenance schedule page from the 06 CRV (online) manual and pasted it on my 07 manual back page.
  • zengszengs Member Posts: 6
    1998 CRV LX with factory std cd player. It plays a cd fine until you eject
    it or stop it then it displays an error message --can't read cd until you
    let it sit for 5 min then it will work again. Anyone have this problem and
    what did you do to fix it short of replacement.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    That's pretty interesting, since the 2003 CR-V only had 4 gears normally, rather than the 5 gears used in the 2005 and later models...

    That is because REAL Transmissions, not slush boxes, had 5 gears on every Honda since 1984, and were optional even earlier on.

    These are Acura5150's pictures.
    Original 5 spd Tranny
    image

    Modified 6 spd CR-V tranny
    image

    Modifing a slush box vehicle is like giving a Ferarri to a quadroploegic.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    " That is because REAL Transmissions, not slush boxes, had 5 gears on every Honda since 1984, and were optional even earlier on. "

    Sorry, I don't understand your response. Are you saying the 2003 CR-V 4 speed transmission could be modified to a six speed?

    And anyway, aren't these automatic transmissions electronically shifted, which means the CPU has to be setup to shift correctly?
  • snoopy21snoopy21 Member Posts: 114
    Seat belts and hardware are warranted for life. You should not pay to have them replaced.

    yes, that is my understanding as well. in fact, honda changed out a defective seat belt for me in my 1981 civic when it had 220,000 miles on it and was 6 years old...all for free.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,565
    He didn't modify an automatic... He added 6th gear to his 5-speed manual transmission.

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  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    He didn't modify an automatic... He added 6th gear to his 5-speed manual transmission.

    lol

    Slush box - automatic, power is tranferred from the engine to the wheels through fluid medium, like the hydraulic fluid, aka ATF - Automatic Transmission Fuild.

    Manual - real transmission - power is transmitted to the wheels through a clutch and bunch of gears, usually 10 (5 spd) or 12 (6 spd). MTF - manual transmission fluid is only served as lubricant, not transfer medium.
  • jbfrancesjbfrances Member Posts: 1
    I am looking at buying a used CRV 1999-2001, but have noticed on three of them rust on the driver and left passenger door on the bottom inside. Is this common? Is there a problem there with the drainage? As well, when inspected by my mechanic, each time he says that the exhaust system and numerous bolts and nuts rusted. Is this also common? Should I be concerned.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "Slush box - automatic, power is tranferred from the engine to the wheels through fluid medium, like the hydraulic fluid, aka ATF - Automatic Transmission Fuild."

    Hmmm, I thought that the clutches were engaged via hydraulics, while it was the various planetary gears that caused the transfer of power. That is a bit different than having the power actually routed "through a fluid medium".
  • madams1madams1 Member Posts: 101
    Like a lot of folks, the check engine light has started to appear. Made sure the gas cap was correct, goes out, but comes back on again. Each time it comes on the engine bucks especially at stop lights. Also, noticed the rpm's got real low at times. Took it to the dealer and as I suspected from reading other posts on this site, it is the throttle body and the whole thing has to be replaced. We bought the Honda 100,000 mile warranty, so it is covered.

    Our CRV is a 2003 with 59,500 miles.

    Just thought I would let folks know since this seems to be a common problem with the CRV's
  • gmoney2gmoney2 Member Posts: 31
    Any idea how much it would have cost to replace the throttle body?
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    this link is for the EX with Automatic Transmission:
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=CR-V&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=5DR+EX&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5=THROTTLE+BODY

    Did you call Honda to see if they would help you? It seems odd it would fail.
  • madams1madams1 Member Posts: 101
    Wow, I did not realize the part would be so expensive per your link. Glad I paid the 800.00 for the warranty. We almost did not purchase the warranty based on the reliability of Honda's.
  • madams1madams1 Member Posts: 101
    As I understand, the fuel filter cannot be replaced by itself since it is part of the fuel pump. Has anyone had any experiences with the fuel pump being replaced because of a clogged filter, bad gas, etc?

    I spoke to the guy who does my service(specializes in Honda and Acura) and he said that he has only had to change out twice, on I believe Accords. One of those was due to contaminated gas.

    Just one more maintenance item(fuel filter) that is tied to another part.

    I guess I do not understand how a fuel filter can last as long as the pump, but maybe it is too 'high tech' for me to understand.

    By the way, if anyone experiences a bad throttle body out of warranty, there are a couple of posts a while ago that talked about getting them replaced for free even when out of the factory warranty.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Hmmm, I thought that the clutches were engaged via hydraulics, while it was the various planetary gears that caused the transfer of power. That is a bit different than having the power actually routed "through a fluid medium".

    Check out torque converter operation. The actual medium transferring power from the engine side to the tranny side is hydraulic fluid. Until lock up kicks in.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    By the way, if anyone experiences a bad throttle body out of warranty, there are a couple of posts a while ago that talked about getting them replaced for free even when out of the factory warranty.

    I believe if you call up Honda corporate (number on the back of the manual) and present your case (loyal Honda owner, many honda's blah, blah, blah), they will most likely cover it, or at least cover it partially.
  • zengszengs Member Posts: 6
    I had a 1998 HONDA CRV.

    It has 82000 Mileage on it right now.

    Every time, I start up my car in the morning, the RPM goes up to 1800 RPM. At the same time, TWANG NOISE FROM THE FRONT SUSPENSION THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SPRING CONTACT appeared.

    2-3 Min later. The RPM goes back to normal, as well as the noise.

    Is it normal? or just some problems causing this noise?
  • bobintampabobintampa Member Posts: 10
    I listened to a groan from the rear of my 2005 CRV EX for a few weeks when making a hard turn, :shades: and then searched this forum and wohooooo!! I found the mention of having to change the rear diff fluid much sooner than the recommended 90K. My CRV had about 30K, picked up 2 quarts of the 'dual pump fluid' from the honda dealer and had my garage change it - no more groan.
    Thanks to those folks before me who posted this problem, and solution. :)
  • taykinitezytaykinitezy Member Posts: 56
    coincidentally my rear diff. also started to groan in the last couple of weeks (at 39,000mi.) I seem to remember reading some time ago in this forum that a typical fluid change at a Honda dealer was about $75.00 so I called a few of my local dealers and got pricing @ $55, $77, $95, and $99. I went to the $55 dollar shop and watched them do the job. My CR-V was on the lift for 15 minutes.(actual hands on time was about 5 minutes) 2 qts. of fluid was 12.50 (retail). that leaves about $42 for 15 minutes ....or about $168 per hour for labor and overhead. If I had gone to the $99 shop from not knowing any better, the labor charge would have been $86 .....or approx. $340 per hour...what baffles me is that this is less labor intensive than a $20 oil and filter change.....any comments on why dealers try to gouge to such extremes...
  • joanjjoanj Member Posts: 1
    Coolant has leak inside motor, suspect head gasket problem, CRV has 79,000 miles. Is this becoming a common problem for Honda CR-V owners? Email me at sriver@ida.net stuck 1,000 miles from home and worried about repair costs.
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