Honda CR-V Maintenance and Repair

lzc

>>Does this chime sound apply to all 2007 CRV models?

Yes. See page 75 in your owner's manual.

terry92270

"Well, my grandfather doesn't have to park in the busy parking lot and catch the bart train at 7:01 am"

Your Grandfather wasn't up using the computer or watching TiVo until Midnite, either.

fussycrvowner

What about playing innocent and having the Honda dealer diagnose why the battery dies? It could be a combination of things meaning the lights on reminder and an already questionable battery.

terry92270

That would be dishonest, no?

kay_jay

">Your Grandfather wasn't up using the computer or watching TiVo until Midnite, either.

Thats very true.

drive62

Every Honda I have owned since the 80's has had a chime that sounds if the lights are left on. Many domestics don't have this feature, or auto off headlights for that matter.

fussycrvowner

I stand corrected. Thanks for making me accountable. I don't mean to come across sounding like a deceptive customer. Giving the dealer the history of the problem will aid them in troubleshooting. To them it may be a nuisance issue but if it doesn't work, It doesn't work. The dealer is paid by Honda to support their product. My OEM battery lasted a year and wouldn't start reliably in the winter months. I decided to replace it with one of my choosing rather than trust another Honda one. The second one didn't last either and had me re-thinking my strategy. The charging system tested out OK and I ended up putting a high performance battery in. Two years later and no more problems. In Grandpa's days, the phone and the radio and the A/C and the like were left in the house. TVs and computers were still science fiction, unless the government had them. I think blankets were the exception. Nowadays we seem to live in our cars. The charging system is expected to keep up with more and more electrical loads. Bottom line - nicely ask the dealer to perform a load test and inquire if leaving the headlights on would drain a battery. Also ask them to show you how the lights on reminder and if there is a delay-off operate.

terry92270

If forgetting to turn off the lights is a chronic deal, perhaps there are gadgets one can add, after market, to turn them off automatically, eh?

annsroad

I have had my 2006 for approx 3 weeks and have the exact same problem. Yup, been to the dealer for alignment, switched front wheels, and straightened the steering wheel (it wasn't crooked). Finally the service manager told me that it is a flaw in the design and he cannot fix it. So now I have written to Honda for assistance and have posted my complaint to be on the TSB. Not sure where this will take me.

blueiedgod

If forgetting to turn off the lights is a chronic deal, perhaps there are gadgets one can add, after market, to turn them off automatically, eh?

Yeap, it is called Battery Buddy, or Battery Saver, every auto parts store has them. I don't think they cost more than $50, and are easy to install. Once the unit detects that battery draw is not being replenished by the alternator, it shuts off the main circuit. I am sure there must be a by-pass for the radio and computer to keep the settings on. I am not 100% sure on the compatibility with Honda's "alternator off" mode.

crv202

I just installed a new O2 sensor in my 2002 CRV. Purchase genuine Honda O2 sensor via internet from Honda Dealer. Attempted to install myself, as the part is easily accessed from under car. I borrowed the O2 socket from AutoZone.
I had difficulty pulling the electrical connector apart so i brought the car to my retired mechanic neighbor. He had no problem seperating the connector and reomoved the old sensor and installed the new one with no problem. He charged me $10.00. It's been two days and no more check engine light. The car drives fine, just as it did with the check engine light on. It was just annoying to see it on. The car has 55, 00 miles on it. I am the original owner. Just installed new Michelin HydoEdge tires at Costco. Tire noise is still there, maybe quieter. Concrete roads are noisiest. Quiet on Blacktop Asphalt. Overall happy with CRV. Plan to keep for another 50,000 miles.

fussycrvowner

There was a bulletin 03-004 for the 2002 model. It involved removing the front struts and rotating the springs to change the angles. I had the PTTR and specifically requested the mentioned service. In my case it fixed it when several alignments before did not. Do not know if the fix will work for the '06 models. I have been hearing of dealers having to shift the subframe before the PTTR is gone. Another bulletin is SN030915 addressing drift at highway speeds. Basically, if the vehicle takes more than 5 seconds to change lanes on a flat road (no hands on steering wheel), it is considered to be normal.

motex

This has just started occurring and is intermittent. When I turn my lights on at night the headlights come on but the dash and taillights do not. Sometimes if I flick my brights on then the dash and tail lights will come on.

terry92270

Sounds like a faulty switch or relay.

If under warranty, take it in. If not, take it to a competent shop that deals with vehicle electrical troubleshooting. Do not delay. These types of problems can most certainly lead to something more problematic and expensive to fix.....or a fire. :sick:

Think about the taillights going off on a dark road, and someone plowing into the back of you, or worse, the taillights working, but the headlights going off, and you hitting a wall. :surprise:

user777

i wouldn't put anything aftermarket into the electrical system myself.

if the CRV is anything like my odyssey and accord, there's a quick repeating chirp if you leave the keys in and open the driver's door, and if the headlights are left on, a different chime.

if those aren't working, i suspect an ignition switch assembly problem.

now then, you CAN leave interior lights on and if i remember correctly, not have any indication, but the battery drain on a good battery shouldn't kill it overnight. if it happens once or twice to ya, you get in the habit of making sure all the lights are off before you leave the vehicle.

an auto-off feature is an OK think to have, but it isn't a necessity.

again, i would avoid modding the electrical system in the vehicle.

mungomad

Hey there. Did you get any help for this? I have a new '06 CRV and very soon after I bought it noticed that the fuel gauge didn't want to read full, or bounced around from below full to above full. My local honda dealership repair shop thought I was crazy because I couldn't demonstrate the problem to them but replaced the fuel sending unit to get me off their back. I'm still having problems. Two days ago, after filling the tank it read full then dropped to 3/4 full and then took about 5 to 7 minutes to slowly creep back to full. Now I don't know whether to trust it or not. My mechanic who does not work at the dealership said that Honda has had problems with the fuel gauges for some time and that mine should be replaced. He said I should probably wait until the problem is very reliable and more pronounced. Anyway, just thought I'd share this with you. I love Hondas....still have my '95 Civic with 213,000 miles on it and no breakdowns and very few repairs! But I've not been happy with this issue even if it is fairly minor and I am being fussy!!!!

fussycrvowner

On my '02 the interior lights turn off after about 5 - 10 minutes. They go out regardless of the switch position on the dome light. This may sound silly but what happens if you leave the key in with the door open? The reminder for the key and the headlights may be on the same circuit. If the reminder works with the key in then the chime module for the headlights may be bad.

user777

i didn't think any of the LX Honda models had auto-off feature, but then, maybe you have a security system or door unlock with a FOB.

blueiedgod

The reminder for the key and the headlights may be on the same circuit. If the reminder works with the key in then the chime module for the headlights may be bad.

There is just one "buzzer", piezo speaker, in the gauge cluster.

fussycrvowner

Good point. I have an EX model which has the standard security system. Isn't the LX sort of like the EX?

gjbwj

I am so dispointed with Honda's service. It already more than three weeks, the part was still on back order. I called dealer several times, they said they can not help if Honda did not have this part now. It is just a seat belt switch!

I also felt the dealer is kind of stupid, 'cause I told them it might not be the seat belt switch. Before I bought this car, the dealer said they already put the new one on it. Therefore, the deaker actually can check other issues, like some wires. But they said they need to put the new part first, if it didn't work, then they will check others, 'cause the code told them it was seat belt switch.

Anyone has experienced this issue, selt belt sensor is on during driving. Is it a serious problem? 'cause it might affect the air bag sensor if seat belt was sensed not right. And, can I say I get a lemon car if this problem come back over and over again.

By the way, it might be confusing. I bought my car (06 EX 4WD) 100 miles away, so the local honda dealer is looking at my car. Is it the reason that they are not very responsive, since I did not buy this car in their hand. Thanks

terry92270

No.

user777

besides the pleather, moonroof and the alloys? wait maybe that's the EX-L.

the LX does have electric windows though.

the standard security system which the LXs don't have (i'm thinking in any model be it CRV, Accord, Odyssey) probably does have some auto-off something.

i'm weary about aftermarket mods that change wiring. if honda wanted it on their vehicle they'd design for it on their higher trims and provide a wiring harness connector for it.

splicing in non-OEM stuff is just risky in my opinion. better to do stuff the way the manufacturer designed the system as a whole to operate.

kay_jay

Yes. See page 75 in your owner's manual.

Yes, I do hear the chime sound after you told me. But this is much similar sound when I open my old camry door. The chime is not really like a warning though. Hope I will get used to the chime when I drive more with new crv.

terry92270

Me too! Hate to think of you heading out on a cold morning, and finding a dead battery! That absolutely sucks! :sick:

blueiedgod

Good point. I have an EX model which has the standard security system. Isn't the LX sort of like the EX?

Do the 07's have security system? Gen 2's did not have standard security system. It had immobilizer, and standard keyless entry on the EX ans SE (maybe LX as well), but no security system.

fussycrvowner

One way to find out is to test drive an '07 and get a brochure. Then again, one might fall in love all over again and consider actually buying the third generation. One nice thing is that the '07 has standard DRL.

blueiedgod

One way to find out is to test drive an '07 and get a brochure. Then again, one might fall in love all over again and consider actually buying the third generation. One nice thing is that the '07 has standard DRL.

No way I would fall for a vehicle that does not have a manual transmission.

drive62

Better move to Europe or Asia then , your choices here are getting slimmer and slimmer. Especially in specific classes of vehicles such as SUVs.

adamp

I just bought a 2007 CR-V 2 Weeks ago and has 750 miles on it, It started making grinding noises when turning, the Dealer replaced the fluid and 30 miles later it makes the grinding noises again...

Is this a lemon? :lemon:

Adam

terry92270

One would have to know where the "grinding" sound was coming from, and what type of fluid was replaced......

A "Lemon" is something the Owner documents. Usually three or more visits with the same problem, and no resolution, or promise of one in the near future, by the dealer.

joecarnut

I dont think its a lemon overall but the early japanese built 2007 CR-Vs rear differential have had these problems.

There are some websites like www.hondasuv.com that discuss this very problem.

Some people are having the dofferential replaced and some having parts replaced. Also they may extend your warranty if you push as others have had that done in response to this problem.

grandizer

Hi all, my first post here as I'm about to buy an '05 CR-V 4wd LX. I checked out a nice one today. The only problem is that the spare was never included in the rotations and the front passenger side tire is a little newer than the others (noticeable tread depth difference, but I just did the penny test - maybe 1/8" difference). Its a Cert. PreOwned honda. I got them to throw in 4 new tires to go with the new spare. So I'm not worried about any future problem, but could the past miles with uneven tires have caused damage to the differentials or the viscous couplings? The car only has 26k miles on it.

Thanks for any advice.

terry92270

At 26,000 miles, it is doubtful, that uneven tread wear would. I am assuming they were balanced and the alignment was not so out as to make steering difficult.

blueiedgod

I just bought a 2007 CR-V 2 Weeks ago and has 750 miles on it, It started making grinding noises when turning, the Dealer replaced the fluid and 30 miles later it makes the grinding noises again...

Is this a lemon?

Adam

Each state has its own definition of a lemon. What does your state define as a lemon?

rainbow111

Hi all, This is my first post. I just got a brand new 2006 CR-V LX AWD model. Right now it has about 650 miles on it. I noticed there are some deep loud noises when the Engine RPM reaches about 1800 and only at 1800 RPM. No matter how fast and slow the speed is, the noise will come out of engine provided that RPM is 1800. That noise is definitely not normal engine sound as I tested other 2006 CR-V, not such noise. That noise is like the sound from woofer. And I had Honda service manager test it. He admitted this is not normal. Now they had CR-V at the deal ship to check it out. But I am not sure they can fix it. Just wondering if anybody has this similar problem or any suggestions. Beg for you help!!!!

Thanks a lot!

user777

it might be as simple as a poor or missing exhaust system hanger allowing contact with the car body, or a bad engine mount. make sure if they tell you it is fixed to have them document what it was to your satisfaction, explain it to you thoroughly, and before accepting the vehicle, make their lead tech or foreman ride with you to verify it is infact fixed.

rainbow111

Hi user777

Thanks you very much for your help. I'll go by what you suggested. Yes, when the service manager tested my car, he also suspected something wrong with exhaust system. I googled "exhaust system hanger and engine mount". To me, they looks like small parts. However do you think it is a serious problem on a new car. I am almost blind on the auto mechanics. So please forgive the possible naive question.

Thanks again!

user777

well, an exhaust hanger is typically just a big rubber-band or grommet which connects a part of the exhaust system to the vehicle body, but because it is rubberized, any vibration energy is mostly de-coupled and not transferred between the two. if one is missing, then part of the exhaust system (from exhaust manifold to cat convertor and on back to muffler) may make contact with the vehicle body. when it does, expect to hear lots of noise. the hangers tent to keep things in their proper place side to side and even up and down.

an engine mount is a device which helps hold the vehicle's engine in place in the engine compartment. i think it's a spring/rubber and perhaps even vacuum- or otherwise active device that is designed to decouple engine vibration from the vehicle while also providing support.

neither is a really big deal in my opinion. people loose hangers all the time. a broken engine mount is more serious - but i've heard of people havng vehicles which were new but had a bad one. it happens.

if it's either of those problems, then i would think the issue was no biggy.

but - and i don't want to scare you, if there's something mechanically wrong with the engine internals, and there's too many to mention, then it could be very serious, enough so to warrent even a new engine.

i'll assume that the length of time needed to repair the vehicle will telegraph their ability to diagnose and correct. if it isn't fixed already, i'd say you need to be vigilant about what is done.

if it requires a major part be swapped, you may want to ask they provide you with a free Honda Extended Warranty, or if an entire new engine, maybe a replacement vehicle.

chances are, it's not that serious. but, let everyone know what it turns out to be.

rainbow111

Hi user777,

A bunch of thanks for your help. It's amazing that you told me so much. Let me put some more details about my car. I got this car with about 110 miles already on it. When I picked up the car, on the way back home, I've already heared the noise. Since this is my first 4 wheel drive SUV, I didn't pay much attention at that time. I drove back this car to dealer on Tuesday Nov 28. And today Dec 1, I was informed that car has been fixed. It took about 3 days. I don't know it is long. Another thing is I feel my CR-V drifts to right or PTTR. Like, when my hands are off the steering wheel, you can notice the steering wheel turns a little bit to right.

Anyway, Honda gave me very unhappy experience this time comparing with my expectation to its reputation. I had another 2005 Hyundai Elantra. So far it's good except a minor exchange a wiper. If I had known the fact of Honda before, I'll switch to Santa Fe or something else definitely.

Sure, I'll keep everyone here posted. And I am considering other alternatives if I am not satisfied with their fix. I'll go BBB or Lemon law, if there are no other ways out. :mad:

Thanks really again for your continous suggestions!!!!

rainbow111

Hi user777,

I found this link "http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Honda/1153292400000_1154934000000_06-044/6044.html".- This service bulletin by Honda indicated that 2005 CR-V 4WD and 2006 CR-V 4WD drone, moan and buzz at 1800 and 3600 RPM. I checked the VIN range, which shows my car falling into it.

Main problem is the propeller shaft dynamic dampener has deteriorated. It says the corrective action is to replace propeller shaft.

I am stunned as I googled the propeller shaft. It looks like a major part of the car. However in the bulletin, it only takes 0.4 hour to change the part. If you could take a look at the bulletin, to your knowledge, how serious it could be?

Thanks for your time and help!!

user777

i hadn't seen that before. is that what was fixed?

as far as a PTTR issue in the CRV, i've read about it here. you know more about both issues than i!

madamiak

I have a 2002 CRV and everytime I start it the daytime running light relay under the dash above my left foot will buzz untill I turn the headlights on. I also notice when this buzzing noise is happening the passengers DRL will not be on but the drivers side will be. I have tried a to relace the relay from another CRV but it didn't make a difference. What could it be??

joekinso

I had the same problem same 2002 CRV. I replaced the "running light" module. It is located under the dash above the removable plastic panel above the brake pedal. It cost about $105.00 Cdn. at the dealer. There are two modules bolted to a bracket. The larger (about 1" x 2" x 3") is the correct one and is marked "running light relay" Working fine for 6 or seven weeks.

rainbow111

Hi user777,

The dealer changed the propeller shaft. They referred to the TSB# 06-044. The noise has gone. Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

But I still highly suspected the PTTR problem with my car, as every time my hands off the steering wheel, I find the steering wheel will automatically turn a little bit to the right about 1-2 degree. I guess that's the reason why the car will drift to the right. In TSB# 06-068, they mentioned it. Any suggestions?

Thanks again.

terry92270

Every automobile I have owned will "drift" to one side or the other.

The important part is, how fast.

nsteblay

My new CRV has the identical problem. There is another thread on Edmunds that discusses this. Appears that they put bad fluid in the differential at mfg. My dealer is replacing the differential (I think). My concern is the silence from Honda. The dealer says they know nothing about this problem. I have been a loyal Honda buyer since the first Accord. I have put over 150,000 miles on five Hondas with no major repairs needed! I preach Honda when ever I can. I am starting to question Honda's current committment to quality and honesty based on this recent experience. I hope they come clean and recall all vechicles that may be affected.

terry92270

Try checking back with the Service Manager of your dealership, another dealership, and calling US Honda again....

fussycrvowner

I am having some issues with my '02 CRV. This summer, I replaced the air/fuel sensor for a code P1166 (heater circuit). The MIL has come on again after a few months with a code P1163 (slow response time). Could the replacement sensor have failed or would there be another possible issue? I have religiously maintained the vehicle and replaced the air and cabin filters this past spring. I am also considering if the secondary oxygen sensor may be starting to go bad and throwing off the fuel or exhaust mixture. Any ideas? :confuse:

terry92270

Check the connection leads. Sometimes, due to heat or other issues they become loose.