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he told me approximately 16-19 weeks for delivery. find a dealer who will guarantee you a delivery time for a 4-door and i'll show you a man who's been out of it for quite a while. after the experiences thus far with the four door, i'll believe it's in production when i GET mine. the way he told me it works, the earlier you get your order in, the higher on the pecking order you'll be when production begins. refer to my earlier post for his email/toll free phone number.
Delivered in 10 weeks. I love it! contact
Beardmore Chevrolet, Carroll Iowa, ask for Mark
Paid $26,149. before taxes.
2000 Silverado LS 1500 2w
Ext. cab
Long bed
5.3
Auto Trans.
Locking Diff.
Air Cond.
Trailer pkg.
Heavy duty opt.
Aluminum wheels
All of the electrical options including heated adjustable mirrors and a cd/cassette player.
All the bells & whistles with the exception of the heated seats (dislike leather).
Been so long since we ordered this truck, without digging out the contract, I can't even remember what all we ordered! Do remember it was $500 above invoice, after going around to all the dealers in this area, that was the best I could do. I'm used to paying under invoice, so that was a little hard to swallow!
Hubby and I are really looking forward to enjoying this truck for years to come!
kyle
v-8 5300 vortex cast alumi. rims- 4 speed automatic trans- bucket seats no elect seats-
dark tint windows- 4 door not full size 4 door-
p-255/70r16 wol tires
walctrp@aol.com
you can "build" your own truck on their site and it will give you the invoice and msrp price breakdown. their prices are right on. if you're looking for a dealer to pitch you a price, edmonds isn't the place to fish. they don't let dealers solicit sales on their site. however, if you are looking for a dealer, my recommendation is to go with greg stancill at montgomery chevy in louisville, ky. he will deliver your new truck to you wherever you live in the contiguous united states and pick up your trade if you have one. all this for $500 over invoice. you'll struggle to beat that for a four door silverado at your local dealers...trust me. i've already ordered with him, mine should be here in late march. want more info...write back.
kyle
kwerking@aol.com
Thanks,
Rob
to a major chunk of change. But I believe you
can find some very good deals from the dealers
around here.
Greg
lmurf
clinton2701@aol.com
You can find GMC's or Chevy's and it works great!
Scrambol- Texas sales tax is 6.25% but you deduct your trade in so you only pay tax on the net amount. (new truck price minus trade in value)
$23,870 out the door
auto/CD/Autotrac/cast alum wheels/tow package/
extended warranty
Haven't paid taxes yet. Military car sales....
Anyone real close to that, or did I get shafted?
2000 Silverado/Ext Cab/LS/2wd/4dr/Locking Differential/Auto Transmission/4.8 Engine/Cast Aluminum Wheels
I paid $23,870 out the door
Drafter
kyle
details? email me at kwerking@aol.com
Ryan
Ryan
Ryan
I have no doubt that someone came in the dealership and offered them more for it today..what a dirty deal..but still not worth getting a lawyer for.
The salsman was out when I went back in to order, and the Enventory Manager said he didn't need anything from me. I didn't have to pay a dime down when I ordered, and yes I have an order # and a build date.
Drafter
kyle
The vibration and steering feel get worse with age.
Hope you get a good one....
Ryan
We are going to try to re-order at same price at another dealer.
This dealership was in Clifton Park, NY (outside of Albany).
Ryan
The saga continues..we went to order another, and the invoice price just went up $275 ($250 on truck, $25 on delivery). So we have to start the bargaining again.
Chevy will not help, becasue they said it's between the dealer and us..also, they are closing the case, since I asked for my deposit back (gee, what would they do, the dealer had told me I forfeited it..I said I did not, and he darn well better return it.By my saying that, there is no longer a deal. I'll prob ask if the new dealer will split the diff..I'll end up spending the same, but to a diff dealer {{sigh}}. Also was told today that the computer still won't take the 4th door for the 3/4 tons..only the 1/2 tons.
Ryan
invoice includes advertising fee. >>
No, actually, we discussed the advertising fees, since others had included them in their quotes (and one place was still cheaper then this place, but we had good feelings about them). He said they don't charge them, they take it out of their holdback. We did ask if there would be any other charges..he said the only difference would be if by the time the truck was ordered if the price of the truck had gone up. And it hadn't (yes, it has now, but not at that time). He did tell us afterwards that he knew there would be higher charges, that there always is, but that he meant, their dealership wouldn't charge advertising fees.We did have a binding contract at that price, since the contract says on it nothing can be added, and they accepted our deposit, so it doesn't matter that the contract was not signed. If they are dishonest, why would we want to contnue to buy the truck -I don't think you see the point in this..he lied.
The good news is, we have negotiated with the other dealer, at the same price (and no advertising fees!). This makes the truck, with the new price $225 over invoice, except it's a solid price and not based on invoice (which our first contract also shows, a solid price). What if it wasn't just the $135 added to the price..if they decided to add $1,000 for advertising, should we have paid that too? Attorney General is interested, so we'll let him handle it. They have a copy of our contract. And what are you so mad at?
Ryan
I also recall reading somewhere that invoices on trucks are not regulated in the same way they are for cars thus allowing for dealer created "factory" invoices.
dealer co-op advertising fee of around $271 on a
msrp of approx. $27,000. >>
That part was blank on the computer generated invoice we got from the dealer, because he had originally said he wasn't charging them. When we went to the second dealer to give our downpayment, after he made the agreement (we were going to sign it at that time), they popped up, and he said that they too had to charge them, and I think they were about 1.5%. Again, after he had told us they wouldn't (they are only a few miles from the original dealer, and we got the distinct impression that they had chatted). I asked him, what about the agreement we had over the phone, and he shrugged his shoulders. Since I last posted here..we went over to GM, and even though their invoice printed out higher, the manager of the dealership said we had been through enough..he WAS going to honor the first price we got, from the original chevy place. It worked out to the same $500 over the original price, $225 over what it would be now, since Chevy had the increase....and invoice price with NO advertising charges for a GM (I'm sure there must be some benefit in it for him..maybe a bonus for selling so many trucks, from Chevy or somtehing). This is the same dealership, when we were first buying, that looked at the price from where we ended up buying, and said he would be very surprised if we actually got it from that dealership at that price..but he wouldn't say anything more at that time, and won't now. The GM has a slightly higher pulling and capacity rating..we are both happy, and he had no problem signing the contract. So, we will be scooting over to the GM Sierra board now (I find it interesting that they are just about the same trucks, but no one has mentioned a vibration problem). He siad they would appreciate it if we considered them, when we brought any of our three chevy's in for service. Thanks for your support. We now start waiting for the new truck to come in (and praying nothing changes..but he does know we had our lawyer look at this contract!).
number one, you're justified in being upset with your original dealer jacking the price on you after you already had an agreement. i'm glad you stood up for yourself out of principle. i would have done the same thing.
however...
number two, you're fooling yourself if you think any dealer you buy from isn't going to make money on your deal. from the way you talk, it sounds like your sole purpose in life is to siphon every last cent out of a dealer that you possibly can. who gives a rat's behind about the advertising fee? it's just their way of phrasing "more profit for us". regardless of whether or not you want to pay any fee, the dealer still has a bottom line he/she will not drop below. they can call it advertising fee, transaction fee, dealer profit, prep fee, or whatever. they're still going to make their dollar.
are you aware of dealer holdback? if there's a fee i was going to go after, i wouldn't be so concerned about $300 advertising fees as i would be about $950 dealer holdback on a vehicle which, if ordered, they're not going to utilize the holdback. that's a fee to attack.
sorry for the preaching and the long post...this whole thing is just getting old.
kyle
Advertising fees are done regionally & are negotiable, but dealer will have to absorb this if he does not charge you beacause he has to pay no matter what. Advertising fee is 1% of dealer invoice for vehicle. Hold back for GM vehicles is 3% of MSRP and usually NOT negotiable, however if you are ordering a vehicle new the dealer CAN work into his holdback if he wants, not many will.
Edmunds has a good article pertaining to Hold Back & Advertising fees under their new car pricing page, check it out & you'll see the picture will become clearer on these charges.
I went thru similar experience with ordering my 2K 2500 Silverado shortbox Ext. Cab 2wd, ended up cancelling order with original dealer in Highland N.Y. after 14 weeks of waiting for an allotment and ordering from one in Danbury, Conneticut who had the allotment & placed the order while I was there. Without an order # you can't track the truck at all thru GM Cust. assistance.
I am now awaiting for TPW (target production week) schedule from GM which should get me that much closer to getting vehicle (I hope). If I have by April I'll be happy but sooner would be nice.
As for the NYS Attorney General's office, don't get your hopes up the only thing they can do is get back your deposit for you but as far as the truk order you lost it's water over the damn, a letter to the editor in Albany paper will serve some justice for you but cut to the chase & don't be lengthy with letter because remember your dealing with a newspaper now & they ARE political (they get advertising from this dealer I'm sure).
Good luck with your GMC when you get it.
Ray Tetrault
Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
Ryan
<<it sounds
like your sole purpose in life is to siphon every
last cent out of a dealer that you possibly can.>>
This was not a nice statement, and not at all what my husband and I had in mind..all I wanted was the deal we had agreed on..I appreciate the GM dealer (yes Ray, we went to a GM, not Chevy)giving us that price..it was the price we had negotiated originally with Chevy, and what we wanted to pay. Do I want to pay the least amount I can..you betcha! The word no is always available to any dealer..but once they say yes, I shouldn't have to fool around and guess at the price. I can only say again, that I didn't have a problem with the ad fees..just that they were added after the fact, so it didn't enable me to fairly put his price against other prices that we had gotten.I also understand that you are saying this is an old subject..so if you don't respond, then I won't have to restate what I said : )