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Nissan 350Z

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  • charliemikecharliemike Member Posts: 87
    IIRC the Porsche Boxster S is rated at 252hp.

    Not really a round number either. =)
  • blacktalonblacktalon Member Posts: 203
    I was pleased with all of the other C&D stats except the weight. 3300+ seemed much too high, though 3200 is a little better.

    To be fair, a 911 C4S weighs in at 3395 lbs and a new M3 weighs 3415 lbs. Of course, neither is a RWD 2-seater, but at least it's not impossible to make a 3200+ pound car handle with agility. However, it remains to be seen whether Nissan can follow the examine of Porsche and BMW...
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    Hi,
    If you want to see some newer 350z pics, go to www.my350z.com. I apologize if this URL has been posted before. Cant wait for the 350Z roadster!
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    www.edmunds.com has a review up. Pretty good overall - has its minuses but a steal for the price.
  • defbringer2defbringer2 Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking to get into a lease with one of these cars. What are my chances of being able to find one in the US sometime this fall? I'm willing to travel out of state to get one. I'm not too picky, I prefer a black, blue, silver with a manual in the enthusiast or lower trim level.

    Will I have to settle on an above-sticker price?
  • wolfxwolfx Member Posts: 72
    but you may be surprised depending on the economy; the G35 appeared to be a big hit at first, but by the 3rd month, many dealership had a whole bunch just sitting around

    the key is to call not just local dealers, but call nationwide; wait at least 3-6 months for the first wave of 350Z hysteria to die down or you will be paying MSRP and waiting, unless you get the more expensive Track model for $35,000 which my guess is that there will be less of a demand there (compared to the $28,000 base models)
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    I saw a red 350 Z with Factory distributor plates this afternoon. It had a black interior. It was turning into the parking lot of a Nissan building.
    I was told the office of the midatlantic region of Nissan is located in Herndon VA. This is a block from where I live.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Detroit has a technical center or something that's Nissan, but I only see only Sentras, Altimas, Maximas usually. There are Nissan and Infiniti dealers around, but they are in out-of-the-way locations compared to other dealers. Woe is me.
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    Hello all,

    I took this pic this morning at the Nissan regional office. Its a few blocks from my home.

    http://photos.yahoo.com/kvsm3
  • 759397759397 Member Posts: 79
    Maybe it is the angle but it looks chunky to me. Is that the impression you get in person?

    I knew it was going to be rounded similar to TT meets 911 but I'm not impressed from that angle.

    Hope it is just a bad viewing position.
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    Its probably the angle of the pic. I didnt think it was kind of chunky. the color might make it look that way also.
    if it was black, it prob wont look as chunky.
    Believe me, in person it looks much better!
  • donovanbdonovanb Member Posts: 1
    I've called three dealerships about the 350z- here's the results...

    Dealer #1: We've got six coming in, but don't know what style, color, options they'll have. All six are spoken for. We'll put you on a list ($5K deposit) for whatever becomes available after that. Selling at MSRP + $600(underbody protection, wheel locks).

    Dealer #2: Seven coming in, again no specifics on options or trim levels. Three are spoken for. A $1K deposit puts me in line for whatever arrives fourth. Saleswoman speculated a markup of 5K, 8K or even 10K, but couldn't say for sure. Originally told me all were sold, and $5K for a deposit on waiting list, then spoke to manager.

    Dealer #3: Selling at MSRP, will order whatever color, options I want, and deliver in aprox. two months.

    All dealers claimed the deposit was refundable if I drove it and hated it. Any opinions on the range of answers I got?

    On one hand I really believe this is the car for me, but on the other I don't want it if:

    a) I pay over MSRP without a test drive and see a dozen on the lot in six months going for TMV or less.

    b) I order from dealer #3 and spend the next six months wondering "where is my car?"

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated...
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    No car is worth sticker price, let alone above sticker. If I were you, just wait till the hype is over and I am sure you will be able to get a good deal. Also since the 350Z is in its first year, there could be potential recalls and bugs.
    Then again,being a Nissan product, there might not be any recalls and we all know how bulletproof the VQ engine is. This is no Ford Focus with 8 fed investigations going on.
    The cars are supposed to be available at dealer showrooms by sometime in August. If you can wait till December,or next year, the hype might subside and you can prob get one below sticker.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    What's all the "where can I get mine?" fuss about? You're six years too late for a nice 300ZX.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I saw a late model 300ZX on the road today. It was a little plain in the old Porsche kind of way, but I think it looked a lot more aggressive than the 350Z (at least the 350Z in pictures).

    I wouldn't pay more for one now. If they're really making 30k of these a year, you'll be able to get them for dirt. Moreover, I don't think the market is big enough for a $30k two-seater with no mooonroof. The 350Z, on some levels, is basically a less practical Mustang GT that costs more, looks odd and is much less practical. I could see this car sitting on lots after the first 20,000 units sell out at MSRP.
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Member Posts: 865
    Why would anyone want to pay $40 grand for a fat (but not slow) 300ZX? Yeah, it was a nice car, but it was far from its sports car roots at that point.

    Now that I mention it, the old car couldn't sell, and here we are with the new one.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I certainly wouldn't pay $40k for the 300ZX, although it would have been nice if the 350Z maintained a little of the aggressive attitude of the old Z. I can't help but think "Mitsubishi Eclipse" when I see photos of the new Z.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    The new Z is not pathetic; it does not say "Mitsubishi Eclipse!" >;)

    I like 2+2 GT coupes, therefore I like the 300ZX.
    350Z is indeed more like the old 240/280 Z cars... definitely a sports car instead of a sporty GT coupe.

    Vero just ran out of adjectives again. Check my profile for 'cars I like' and see if you can discern any trend or phenomenon.

    Detroit region, as Sphinx and I know, really isn't the place to check out Nissan-Infiniti cars! I just visited Fred Lavery Infiniti a few hours ago, but it's a crappy dealer if you just want to look. When the 350Z's Uptown Brother comes out, the G35 coupe, I'll be nosing around Suburban Infiniti again. As for Nissan or Mazda dealers here, I can't imagine giving them 350Z or RX-8 models. They have just enough horsepower in the brains to sell, uh, Sentras and Proteges (noth nice cars). This in a town where Corvettes are everywhere, you won't be able to run around town in your new 350Z without listening to Vette owners laugh (they should be laughing at themselves, of course >;p).
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Member Posts: 865
    These days, Vette owners can laugh at just about anybody they choose.

    2+2's are crazy to me, who can even fit in the back? It's just an insurance ploy, I don't see the point in really loving them. Not that there aren't some nice ones, but if it weren't for being more expensive to insure, I'd rather have a 2-seater.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Well, muffin_man, I have been able to put guys taller than me in the backseat of my 2+2 Integra, if you'll believe that. More than anything, though, I like the rear "seats" to use as shelves for books, CD cases, etc. when I'm running around town.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    the integra is in fact a 2 door compact SEDAN. a 2+2 is a COUPE with 2 "jumpseats" in the back that no grown human can fit in... see 90-96 300zx, 93-97 Supra, 3kGT / Stealth, etc.

    -Colin
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Member Posts: 865
    I guess that's true. I've never owned one, so I didn't really think about it.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    but Colin's right. A compact fastback that was also available in a compact sedan variant is going to be more useful with its rear "seats" than a pure 2+2 sports coupe.

    I'm still plenty single, last time I checked, and only occasionally do I have a passenger... 350Z would actually work fine for me.
  • greddygtrgreddygtr Member Posts: 54
    Let's give Nissan some credit for building as many 350Z's as they are. Many companies decide to go with conservative production numbers for a car in its first year and this makes it impossible for many people who would otherwise want that model to purchase it at a reasonable price. The Honda S2000 and Mini come to mind as cars that could have used a lot more production. Within a 6 months of its introduction just about any buyer should be able to find a 350Z at msrp or below. To me that's a very good thing.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Will auto-tranny models sell below MSRP moreso than manual-tranny models?
  • cyber_xcyber_x Member Posts: 37
    The S2000 is intentionally limited production. The S2000 isn't as vital to Honda as the 350Z is to Nissan.

    The S2000 is more of a showcase car for Honda, similar to how the NSX was a decade ago. Honda can rely on the rest of its lineup for sales, with the S2000 there to show off and keep Honda in the minds of driving enthusiasts.

    On the other hand, the 350Z is a car that's vital to Nissan's image and possibly its survival. I think that's part of the reason there's so many being made - Nissan needs the 350Z as a source of revenue.

    Btw, sphinx99, finally got to test drive a S2000 last night. Very fun car!
  • 759397759397 Member Posts: 79
    I think the S2K has kept at least myself from lumping Honda in with Toyota as manufacturing driving appliances devoid of performance enjoyment. The Civic Si didn't have the same impact on me as the S2K did for showing me "Honda Performance".

    Right now Toyota could use a shot in the performance arm as well, the Celica to me is just an "appetizer" car. New Supra....build it.
  • cyber_xcyber_x Member Posts: 37
    Toyota definitely needs a new performance car. I've currently got a '95 Supra (which I'm contemplating trading for a '02 S2000) and if a new Supra comes out, I'm right there. I sure hope the new Supra rumors are true.
  • kkollwitzkkollwitz Member Posts: 274
    is essential for parents like me, who have to run the kids to & from school...which is why I just bought a practical new Z28.
    Can't wait to see the new Nissans on the street. ;-)
  • aftyafty Member Posts: 499
    If you want a 2+2 version of the Z, buy the G35 coupe. Same chassis, same engine, just in a 2+2 configuration.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    RX-8 pricing will be in line with 350Z? What have you heard on that?
  • philly2002philly2002 Member Posts: 41
    Does anyone have any information about this vehicle?

    What is it?
  • habitat1habitat1 Member Posts: 4,282
    I just got an e-mail from Nissan indicating the 350Z roadster (convertible) version will be out by next spring.

    However, not to beat a dead horse, but given the hefty weight of the coupe, it will be interesting to see if Nissan does it as a chop top to the existing car, or makes substantial ground up changes to the chassis, suspension, etc. A chop top version of the 350Z coupe would be unlikely to be able to compete with the precise handling characteristics of true roadsters like the S2000 or Boxster (and possibly new Z4).
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    Hey everyone,

    I took these pics of the 350Z near my home.

    Take a look

    http://photos.yahoo.com/kvsm3

    The car and color look very good in person!
  • 759397759397 Member Posts: 79
    kvsm3 - Nice shots of the blue one. I like the blue better than the shot you had of the red that I commented on earlier. I still think it looks chunky in the back quarter but overall it is a head turner of a car.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    The daytona blue is an awesome color especially in bright sunshine! It looks so much better in person than in the pics. The blue one I took the pic is a base model. In fact, as I drove by the nissan building a few minutes ago, someone was driving it out of the parking lot.
    Very nice car and guaranteed it will sell like hotcakes!
  • onebeandeeponebeandeep Member Posts: 4
    I saw a 350Z on the road this weekend in SoCal sporting "DST" plates. It had a nice sound...they were really pushing it through some curves in the Newport Coast area. I was able to view it from all angles. It does not have the same fluid appearance as the autoshow prototype. The car was the Le Mans Sunset color. I will have to see it in silver before making a final judgement on the overall look. After five minutes of staring...the design does not flow from front to back. I believe this criticism will surface in any comparison to a premium brand (e.g., boxster).

    I also saw a silver Murano on the road. It looked great. This design really sings.
  • kvsm3kvsm3 Member Posts: 32
    For those interested, Sheehy Nissan dealers in the NVA/MD/Wash DC areas can order their 350Z for below sticker.
    www.sheehy.com
  • gregfockergregfocker Member Posts: 39
    I was at La Valencia hotel in La Jolla the other day and they had four beautiful 350Z's out front. I talked to the valet parking attendant and he said they were about to take Australian car review magazine reporters out for drives up the coast and out to the mountains. They looked awesome but I did not like the door handles. Looks like a winner for Nissan!
  • gsxrter1994gsxrter1994 Member Posts: 24
    I will buy them all see how many you can get and i will pay a finders fee!!
  • snaphooksnaphook Member Posts: 130
    Why don't you just get a refund on your deposit? Afterall, you didn't order this car with the idea of turning it around for a profit, right?
  • ligartligart Member Posts: 109
    ...is the appropriate forum for selling things, not here.
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    Tonight at 11:30 in the North Park section of San Diego, I passed a new 350Z in the Lemans Sunset Color. No license plates -not even MFG plates on this one. Parked at the curb with a young couple in it -near a night club.
    Could this possibly be a dealer's car, taken out before the official intro?
  • ligartligart Member Posts: 109
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Member Posts: 956
    ... if the activity on this board is at the level of public interest for this car, dealers could be discounting next week.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    Call me a doomsayer if you must, but I think the plummeting Dow, mass earnings restatements and ongoing headcount reductions have stolen some of the thunder from the Z/RX8.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    It's really too bad, sphinx!

    I was at Twelve Oaks Mall a few hours ago... I had to circle around a mid-1990s silver 300ZX that was sitting in the nether regions of the parking lot. Perfect condition!

    So, what is the intro date for the 350Z? What night should I descend on the dealer lot again? Nissan needs coupes for me to cruise by their lots more often!

    oh, sphinx... don't shop at Bill Cook, dude. Their driveway and parking lot is a pain in the a**... I almost kissed two Mazdas, an Altima, and a VW Jetta trying to just get out and back on the expressway!

    Hmm, Ann Arbor Nissan, Bill Cook Nissan, Dick Scott Nissan... plenty of Nissan dealers to check out when the 350Z hits the stage. Jackson has a dealer too. Metro Detroit has Suburban Nissan, Tamaroff Nissan, Jeffrey Nissan, Key Nissan... ah, more excuses to jump in my car. But will anyone actually have 350Z's in stock??
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