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Nissan 350Z



  • Everybody is quick to critizise the Maxima's handling, yet nobody has come up with one mid-size car in the Maxima's price range that outhandles it.
  • The 3.5L DOHC V6 engine incorporates CVTCS (continuosly Variable Valve Timing Control System), which provides a broad range of HP and torque (Guess what Z will have???). Molybdenum-coated pistons reduce friction, retaining engine power.

    On top of that we have Nissan Direct Ignition System (NDIS) to ensure accurate combustion timing and max power.


    - High-efficiency intake manifold with equal-length intake runners

    - 10.3:1 compression ratio

    - Noiseless timing chain

    - ETC (Electronic Control Throttle Chamber)

    - Drive By Wire (my favorite!) for faster throttle response.


  • The Z has a Corvette engine that is modified to be H-configuration.....
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    response to #421 Thats because they don't sell them here in the US. This is strange because we have the biggest market in the world for mid-size cars.

    I wasn't knocking the maxima like I said. For what kind of car it is meant to be, it is great. But that still doesn't mean I would call it sporty. Its not a sporty car so not calling it that is not an insult.
  • 92drexel92drexel Posts: 153
    Hey the March 2002 issue of Motor Trend (pg 56) has a picture (only 1 picture) of the 350Z convertible. It looks pretty good (sort of reminds me of an Audi TT). I wonder what the premium will be?

    I agree that the Maxima is "sportier" than its intended competition. It's no BMW 330 (and far from a boat), however it has great options, great power, will out-handle most in its class, and offers a manual transmission with a V6. I think the manual transmission is what gives it it's "sportiness".
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    It kind of surprizes me that honda didn't offer the type-r accord over here. It would have had no competition in its price catagory and considering that the USA is probably the accord's number one market, I highly doubt it would have failed. I think auto manufacturers in the last 10-20 years have been unwilling to take any chances with us. They always play it safe. Well I think that is all changing now, (i hope so anyway).

    So yeah, the maxima is the sportiest mid sized sedan for the money. Nobody else has even tried.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    I still don't see how a car with the body roll of the Maxima can be considered sporty. My impression of it was more like a poor man's LS400. Solid acceleration, features, and a pretty comfy ride. With the sloppy suspension bits (and especially those shocks) it didn't feel as nimble as a base Accord on turns. And it's rather pricey.

    I'd take a base 325i over it for basic things like a real suspension, precise steering, and good tires. Someone please supply some empirical evidence that the Maxima handles well, because from driving impressions it sure doesn't.
  • rezo00rezo00 Posts: 103
    LS430 Motortrend july-2001
    Slalom, mph 58.10

    Infinity I35 (the luxery clone of the maxima with a softer suspension) Motortrend Nov-2001
    Slalom, mph 62.40
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    This month's Motor Trend has a one-year test wrapup of the 2000 Maxima. Their headline is, "A legitimate player in the mid-priced sport-sedan contest." They also say, "Senior Editor Matt Stone dubbed it 'one of the few front-drivers that qualifies as a legit sport sedan.'"
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    Did you drive the SE model or a different one? The SE model has a firmer suspension and better handling than the other two models.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    ..since I think I've seen your a fan of the S2000. But I kept my 1995 Maxima SE when I bought my S2000 and still feel compelled to defend the Maxima honor.

    Look, it's not a 3-series. And no FWD sedan made by anybody else is, either. The 3 series is the premier SMALL RWD sedan in the world. But the Maxima is clearly the leader within it's class, IMO. No Accord, Camry or other Japanese offering has ever come close to offering the same "fun to drive" rating. The last R&T issue I have listed the 2000 Accord EX V-6 at a whopping 0.76g on the skidpad. My wife's Isuzu Trooper could almost match that (0.74g). The only FWD cars I have ever driven that I would concede as near equals against my 95 Maxima SE relative to handling are Audi A4 and VW Passat. Neither of which had anywhere near the power/acceleration at the time (1995), and still haven't caught up.

    I know from your previous posts that you own a Prelude and are quite satisfied with it. However, with all due respect, you're living in a glass house when it comes to cars that are oxymorons. I've seen plenty of criticisms of the Prelude as being the best car in it's class - which is????? None. There is no such thing as a FWD sports car. It's too heavy for a sporty coupe. And on and on..

    So, whether you personally consider the Maxima a "sport sedan" or not, I respectfully suggest reevaluating it against the true competition. I just had a buddy of mine over who got a new TL-S that he wanted to show off. After a few spins through my favorite test course, he conceded that my 7 year old, 120,000 mile 5-speed Maxima was the sportier feeling of the two. Albeit I conceded that his TL-S was smoother and quieter.

    P.S. As for other's who suggest the new Altima may be a better handler than the current Maxima, you may be right. But I don't think by orders of magnitude. And if you can overlook the Altima's inferior interior, you are a better purist than me.
  • When shopping for a sporty 4 door sedan I test drove the Honda Accord V6, the Toyota Camry V6, VW Passat V6 and the Maxima SE. By far, the Maxima was the sporty one in the bunch. Not only in terms of acceleration, but the ride was more taught than all others except maybe for the Passat. Nissan also make the sweetest V6 in the planet, the VQ was so ahead of the competition it was no contest. Sorry folks, but there is only one japanese mid-size sport sedan in the low to mid $20's and it's the Maxima SE.
  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    Is this the 350 Z forum? ;-)
  • jay_75jay_75 Posts: 10 long as we are talking about the VQ, I'd say we are are kind of on topic.

    Does anyone know what specific engineering challenges there were in converting an engine from FWD duty to RWD duty? I would think it would be pretty tough....different transmissions, weight balance, etc.

    but then again, I'm not an engineer
  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    I was initially interested in the performance pack with its 18" wheels and vehicle dynamic control. But after thinking about the differences in 17 vs. 18 inch wheels and the $2200 dollar difference between the enthusiast and performance packages I am now considering the enthusiast trim level. Any thoughts out there about the pros and cons of the different wheel sizes. $2200 is a lot more imho. I know VDC comes with it, but hey the enthusiast has traction control and a limited slip differential.
  • rezo00rezo00 Posts: 103
    The primary change involves rotating the engine, since its a V6 (as apposed to a longer I6 or even V8) it is about square so no mater what way you put the engine its about the same size...The transmission will be very different though, as will the torque converter in the auto version.
  • Hey, I'm on your side with the Z and Maxima. I do like the Max a lot. In fact, it's the best car in Nissan's current line up. Love that engine. And while I'm not big on the non-IRS, the car still feels way ahead of its comp in everything but luxury, which the Passat wins easily.

    As for the Z, I'm looking forward to trying one on. That FM platform seems keen. Of course, I'll probably go G35 if the fun quotient is high enough.
  • I noticed that has put up some prices and info on the 2003 350Z. They show list prices in line with the Nissan web site. The TMV (true market value) is listed at $1,800.00 over. They also comment that dealers will get list price and demand will be very heavy. From what I have seen, the "TMV" tends to be pretty close to the truth.(While of course not 100% accurate, especially in certain regions, I think it gives a good sense of the country's average selling prices on new autos). However I wonder how they got this figure on the 350Z only two weeks after the pre-sale started.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    I don't know how accurate Edmunds TMV really is. It seems like an informed shopper can almost always do better than TMV. For example, I bought a new Altima a few months ago. Edmunds TMV at the time was straight MSRP, but I got mine for $2k under MSRP with no haggling.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,315
    It depends on the region you're in. I remember back over the summer when TMV on a Honda S2000 was a few thousand more than MSRP, dealers here in NY were advertising them for a few thousand under MSRP. Check with your dealer. There's a guy on this board who says there's a dealer in San Diego that will give a discount from the get go (and if you're willing to wait).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    That was the ad on sticker on a new honda coupe when they came out. I dont know what idiot thinks someone is gonna pay OVER sticker on one of the biggest mass produced cars, but o well. Nothing like unscrupulous dealers...

  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    Just let the lemmings swim into the dealers and pay over MSRP for a brief time. This car is awesome and will be a great deal, but the hype will die down. They are going to make so many of them. I bet below MSRP will occur around this time next year.
  • NissanDriven just came out with 3-4 additional photos for Z. One is for rear spoiler and other is carbon fabric interior.

    Carbon fabric looks real good but spoiler sucks! This spoiler looks more like old infiti XJ?'s spolier.

    Also, Ray's 18 incher looks lighter.
  • rezo00rezo00 Posts: 103
    you can delete the spoiler at no cost.
  • I pre-ordered my Z Saturday. Got a Silverstone Enthusiast 6MT and was interested in leather, but the dealer said leather was only for Touring and Performance models. Oh well, at least i got it for MSRP. Can't wait until August!!
  • dat2dat2 Posts: 251
    Am interested in opinions on ride quality of the new z. a quote from nissan in one of the magazines says they are shooting for ride that is not bone jarring...more mature or sophisticated. very un- s2000.

    i currently drive a 96 240sx with 115,000 miles, and am considering the new z, howver dont think i want a car that rides much harder than my 240 (for daily driving). any thoughts on this?

    i am pretty confident the new z will be fast, and handle solidly, howvr am curious about what the ride will be like!
  • Is it ok to drive a car w/o a license's plate on the rear? Or is it the front? Does it depend on the state u live in? Thanks.

    P.S: Dat2, not sure about the ride since no demo Z will be at any dealerships. The owner will be the only one to drive the car.
  • snaphooksnaphook Posts: 130
    Unfortunately if your state issues you 2 plates in all likelihood it is mandatory to place them on front and back. I live in one of these states (MD), and I really think the front plate will detract from the appearance of the Z. It amazes me that with all the technical innovations that have occurred in the auto industry we are still using the same archaic method of identifying a car. Also, if your state issues only 1 plate, like FL, it must go on the back.
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