Mazda6 Sedan

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  • buddy_2_buddy_2_ Member Posts: 30
    ok i am a little confused about this car now. ON all of the posts it says that everyone has a 2003 model, but on the mazda websight it says that it is the 2004. I even have a brocher that says that it is a 2004 and the guy that i have been dealing with at the dealership says that it is a 2004. supposed to be getting it in may or june.

    So for insurance purposes do i insure it as a 2003 or a 2004......
  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    If you buy it in the USA right now, then it's the 2003 model line, but I've heard that if you buy it in Canada, then it's a 2004. The car wasn't released in Canada until a few months ago, and I think they just decided to set it as the 2004 model.

    Mike
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    for free too. I agree Mazda is kinda missing the boat on that one.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    Patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. - and Mazda has their hands full with the 6, RX-8 and the upcoming replacement to the Protege.

    Plus - making an SUV with Mazda DNA as they call it can't be easy. But if/when they do - a poor man's Cayenne is what I'd sort of expect.
  • rphillips2rphillips2 Member Posts: 40
    I too was disappointed that I would have to pay $39.00 for the event. However, it looks like in CA it has been a huge success for Mazda with 1200 people signing up at each event. After seeing all the different Mazda vehicles you get to test drive without having a salesmen next to you, it seems like a pretty good deal. I too can autocross for $25-30.00, but thats in my car with wear on my tires. I can't wait to try out the 6 in an autocross environment. If it feels good there, then I'll put my order in.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    $39? Cry me a river and then get over yourself.

    First - there will be a lot more going on than just showing up for an autocross run on a Sunday morning. Test drives, instruction and other minor attractions. If you don't walk away with more than you came with I'll be very surprised.

    Plus your local $25 autocross doesn't give you the opportunity to beat on somebody else's car or take your quick time and compete for a brand new car at Laguna Seca or meet with a group of other 6 owners & prospective owners.

    As for other manufacturers doing something like this - I know of no one who's gone to 15 different cities in one Summer as part of a driving school/autocross tour.
  • beanboybeanboy Member Posts: 442
    $39 isn't bad considering you get the car, helmet and some instruction thrown in for the price.

    Local clubs have a $25 fee along with an initial club fee along with having to work the course. Max number of runs is usually 4 to boot.

    I think it is a great idea, I'm signed up for 7/12 group 14a, and so is my brother.

    -B
  • boxfanboxfan Member Posts: 180
    What Mazda vehicles do they have? I only saw that they have you driving a 6S, and I am assuming they only have automatics. I would like to try a 6i manual, do you think they'll have any?
  • boxfanboxfan Member Posts: 180
    Saw a 6 on the road, steel gray, sport package, looked great. I don't know if it's that St. Louis is behind the rest of the country, or just that I don't spend a lot of time driving, but it sure took a long time before I saw a 6. I've already seen a Cayenne on the road; didn't that just come out? Anyway, it looked great in person. I'm starting to really like the sport package.
  • beanboybeanboy Member Posts: 442
    6S with auto only so I've heard. Understandable with most folks clueless about manuals nowadays. *sigh*

    -B
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    They'll have other cars there for normal test driving. Seems reasonable they'd have an MT, but who knows.

    As for racing on an AT - with 90% of the buying public expected to buy the AT, it only makes sense. It's also a vote of confidence for the AT's reliability. These cars are going to get ripped on.

    It also evens things out for normal drivers. The enthusiast that can work an MT really well no longer has that advantage.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I've heard bad things about masks as well. But I'm one for taking VERY good care of my cars.

    I will put it on for long drives and in cases when I know I'll be in for rock chips and bugs (country roads).

    Most of the time I'll keep it off, for around town and back and forth to work.

    My mother lives over an hour away and I always seem to kill about a billion bugs back and forth from her house.

    Also, we often travel to Seattle and to the coast and both trips are rock chip hell. I'll use the mask during those times.

    My hope is that once I've installed all the "hardware" that I won't have to re-install it every time I put the mask on.

    I'll let you know how it goes.
  • skyrayskyray Member Posts: 156
    I think the price may seem out of line compared to an autocross (although if a $15 difference is that big a deal, you're probably not a prospect for buying a new Mazda anyway), but this isn't an autocross. The $25 you pay for a day at the autocross track doesn't include lessons.

    For people who aren't experienced autocrossers, though, the classes and the chance to learn to do it on someone else's car are well worth a measly $40.
  • jeffb1jeffb1 Member Posts: 42
    Cookie01, yes it is close to the lip of the hood. I've never had a mask, for the reasons stated by others, and just general fear, but as clean as I keep my car (especially since it's black), I'm going to consider one. My question, as you indicated, is how hard it is to put on/take off. Since I won't want it on in certain weather situations, I'm hoping it will pop off easily. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks!

    Jeff
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    It's a lot more money - but I just had a clear mask applied to the bumper, hood and mirror backs on my 6s. From 2-3 feet, you simply can't tell it's there and stones are NOT getting through. No rubbing issues, no on/off issues.

    www.xpel.com
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    they are using a Mazdaspeed Protege for slalom course training!

    I want to test drive a Miata!

    oh yeah, I signed up for the 7/27 morning session at FedEx :-)
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    compared to the fact that you get good instruction, cars provided, and basically no limits on how you drive the cars. To me, signing up was a no-brainer but if it's not for you, ok.
  • tiredofmanualtiredofmanual Member Posts: 338
    It's true that I'm not a candidate for buying a new Mazda - I have an 8 month old A4 that I'm in no hurry to replace.

    My main complaint is that other manufacturers set up these traveling events to show off their cars, yet do not charge attendees. But Mazda does.

    And of course, the prize... I am 100% sure that the only people that have a chance to win will be either professional drivers or very, very experienced autocrossers. I am neither.

    And the autocross aspect. I go to the Indiana Northwest Region autocrosses because they are much less crowded than the Chicago or Milwaukee regions (plus half of their events are held 1/4 mile from my parents place). You do indeed get 6 runs for $25, plus at the end of the event they usually allow for fun runs and ride-alongs with experienced drivers, allowing for the kind of instruction that the Mazda event probably wont be able to match. In addition, working the course between runs gives you the opportunity to view what more experienced drivers do around the track from a perspective not afforded to anyone sitting in the parking lot waiting their turn to drive.

    And lastly, I'm not about to pay $39 to drive an automatic transmissioned car around a track, unless it's a Porsche or something.

    Oh yeah, and the location they chose for Chicago... Crete, IL? I don't know how they can even call that Chicago. I could be in Wisconsin or Indiana in less time than it will take to get there.
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    ...to get in, only the driving school and race are $39- well worth it. Go-Karts, admission, and the gobs of other exhibits are free.
  • rphillips2rphillips2 Member Posts: 40
    From what I've read, the auto-x will use the automatic 6. They are going to have other Mazda vehicles for test drives, but I don't know if they are manual or auto. Check out this page for answers to some questions. http://www.mazdarevitup.com/FAQs/f_default.asp
  • chicagoprochicagopro Member Posts: 1,009
    ...oops, never mind, I don't even know you, Brian.

    Yes, I'm sure there are more wonderful autocross experiences out there...this is probably not the best venue for more seasoned folks. But this is a traveling gig, Mazda is not in the business of setting up courses and training autox'ers, etc., etc., etc. They are trying to sell you something.

    But this is a much more fun way of selling something than sending you a brochure or having a silly web-based game.

    $39 is a chunk of change if you're used to paying a little less and getting a whole lot more, but we have to consider the fact that they're carting that crapload of cars and other equipment around the country.

    As far as Crete is concerned...yeah, I wish it was a little closer to the city. But I can't really think of a place IN Chicago that would be suited to this purpose, especially if it's really drawing big crowds. According to mapquest, I should be able to get there in just under an hour, which is about how long it would take me to get to WI or IN.

    And I'm all signed up, June 21st, session 14b.

    Zoom zoom!
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    'Scuse me.

    You're right - you're not the kind Mazda wants. One post and I can't stand it. I'd hate listening to your attitude in person for an entire day. You make autocrossing sound like work, not fun.

    "And lastly, I'm not about to pay $39 to drive an automatic transmissioned car around a track, unless it's a Porsche or something."

    How completely elitist.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Someone has to be better than the other plebian people. It's very hard to hide obvious superiority.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I wasn't going to sign up, simply because of scheduling issues. I am definitely going to now, that I find out there are other cars to drive there.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    Okay - so Ruefus...what the heck IS that exactly? Is it a "painted on" clearcoat, or a "decal-type" rubbery stick-on thing or what?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Here's an example of this product:
    http://www.stongard.com/sgcontent/default.asp

    It's a clear film that adheres to the car, usually on the front hood and headlights. Protects against rock chips, etc.
  • rphillips2rphillips2 Member Posts: 40
    Does anyone know what happened to the Edmunds Live events? I did the one in Atlanta and had a blast. Best $15.00 I have spent in a while. I would pay $30.00 or maybe a little more to get to do that again. They let us push the cars as hard as we could on each course. I really got to compare alot of cars in a short amount of time.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    A friend of mine has this on his VW GTI, you can't see it until you get up close. The only thing is that you have to be careful when waxing the car. Also, it might show up for darker colors more prevalently than for light colors. I also thought fading would be an issue as well.

    Personally, it's easier to deal with than a front mask, but I don't like the idea of something permanently stuck to the front of my car either.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I went to the Edmunds Live event in DC when they had it, and I had a great time as well. I asked one of the hosts, and they said there wasn't enough particpation. I think the thing was that there wasn't enough profit to have it again myself.
  • rphillips2rphillips2 Member Posts: 40
    I think you're probably right. There wasn't much participation in Atlanta either. It sure was a great idea though.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I know I had a great time at the DC one! They did have to go and replace the tires on the IS300 they had though... :)

    Also, I thought it was free. It's been about 2 years, but I don't remember paying a fee. Maybe there was...
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    ROFLMAO...

    That's just hilarious.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    It's a film that's adhered to the front of the car. If you've ever seen vinyl graphics put on - with spray bottles and small squeegees, it's essentially the same process. Check this out:

    http://www.twoguysgarage.com/site/presection.php?PreID=118&Se- gID=281

    It's a gross oversimplification to be sure - but it's kinda like a giant, crystal clear sticker cut in the shape of the front of the car.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    I have to wonder if it will yellow or get cloudy over time. Personally I'd pass on it.
  • cwrigh01cwrigh01 Member Posts: 23
    There is a reason they are using automatics:

    (1) they would like to reach out to the most people possible, and many people can't (or won't) drive a stick
    (2) this is not geared toward the autocrosser, but the average auto enthusiast--that while into cars, don't exactly take theirs at 9/10's.
    and
    (3) there are a lot of safety manuevers to learn, and they would like people to concentrate/focus on mastering those, not what gear you they in.

    The Lexus IS300 and BMW ride-n-drives I have been to have all used automatics as well.

    Chris
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    Vocus - fair enough. My aversion to a sandblasted front end overcomes the other concerns.

    mazda6s - To each his own. But if you bother to do the reading as opposed to simply dismissing it outright, you'll find that it doesn't cloud or yellow. Porsche has been using this stuff on the fenders of their 911 Turbos for years. This is NOT a new material. Both 3M and Avery Denison have been making it for years.
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    as tested, the Mazda6i did have a better weight distribution than the 6s. Both were automatics, and fared at 60/40 and 62/40 respectively. The 6i with a manual, then, must be 59/41. Not bad for a front-wheeler!
  • buddy_2_buddy_2_ Member Posts: 30
    just wondering what speeds the car redlines at. For the manual tranny. EX 1st 50kmh 2nd 80kmh 3rd 130kmh etc....

    Those are the speeds for my 89 nissan pulsar 4 cylinder...
    cant wait to get rid of that thing..
  • thegreatvudinithegreatvudini Member Posts: 103
    Whiteatenza:

    Sounds like a fully-loaded machine. What was MSRP, and what did you pay for it? Wonder if we get the same deals up here in Bay Area.
  • tiredofmanualtiredofmanual Member Posts: 338
    I wasn't aware that the rest of the event was free. Thanks for the information. I may stop by then.

    And to the rest of you. Sheesh, this is only my opinion and if you think I'm elitist, well, you're wrong.

    Also, mazda6s, the film that Vocus and Ruefus and others are talking about has been around for a while and, from what I hear, it works very well.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I'd love to go to one of these test drive events.. but they don't have them here.

    sigh...
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I hate that it died out as well. It's my understanding that the attendance just didn't cover the costs and while no one has said they will never happen again, no one has said they will either.

    Whoever thought that admission was free, btw, is wrong, it was $15. What a deal! I had a great time there; well we got in free, but I'd have paid twice that or more for all that was offered there.

    The one we (hosts) attended was in Chicago. I don't live in that area and I have no idea where I was, but I wonder why Mazda couldn't hold the Rev It Up there instead of having to go so far out of town? I think it was a race track stadium of some sort.
  • jhtlagjhtlag Member Posts: 39
    Pat Goss on Motorweek talked about it and recommended it a while back.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    maybe if they can get several manufacturers to co-sponsor the event, then it'll cut down Edmund's own initial cost :-)
  • pyranhamdpyranhamd Member Posts: 15
    Just signed for my 6s tonight. Got MT, Sport, Comfort, Moon Roof in steel grey. With the college grad rebate we ended up right at invoice for the vehicle. Can't wait till it makes it to the dealer next week!
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    I recall reading on another discussion group, that there are at least two commercially available plastic film protectors for the front of your car; one will yellow with age, the other will stay pretty clear for years. Sorry, but I don't remember the brand names. You might try a search on Edmunds.

    RE: the Rev-it-up.. I was fortunate to participate in a Mercedes "Power Drive" event in Boston in 2001 and I got to power-drive an ML430 and an SL500 around a short course but with no MB people in the car. Getting to beat on an $84,000 roadster was a thrill that was worth some money.. Not only was it free, but they had refreshments and handed out nice baseball caps embroidered with MB logo and such. I could have driven any model, if I wanted to wait in line. I also could have ridden in one of four AMG models driven by pro-drivers around a separate course. Nothing like hearing 4 MB-AMG's (E55, ML55, etc) screaming around a parking lot with tires wailing.! Sounded like the Thompson, CT track! But the lines for that joyride were well over an hour long.

    I am seriously thinking about going to the Boston Rev-it-up, even if only to just do test drives of all their models. I still miss my 1988 MX-6 and I suspect the the Mazda6 is going to be very similar in handling performance; excellent.!!
  • miata10aemiata10ae Member Posts: 90
    alcjew: I will be posting pics soon. I think I will wait till the weekend.
    Today it was the first time that I drove the car in day light and I am already getting the thumbs up. What a great feeling.
    I am planning to be at the Mazda Rev-it-up in Orange county on the 12th or 13th so I might see some of you guys there.
  • wvelezwvelez Member Posts: 16
    Does anyone know if the rear badge/logo has holes behind it? I'd like to remove it if possible.
  • whiteatenzawhiteatenza Member Posts: 11
    Yeah, it was pratically fully loaded. MSRP was a bit over 27 grand. The manager gave the car below invoice at 23,996. With tax, title and all the other costs, it came to be about 25,950 or somewhere around there. My dad paid for it, i really didn't see the final price.....
  • alcjewalcjew Member Posts: 173
    wvelez: I don't or even care about removing the rear Mazda emblem, why the heck do you want to remove it? I think it makes a statement for 6! You might as well remove the "MAZDA6" and while you're at it, might as well remove the "V6" on both front doors if you have 6s.
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