Mazda6 Sedan

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  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    my MSRP was $25,700

    my price was s-plan.
    take off loyalty+grad rebates on top of that.
    add Tax, tags & Title fees.

    $23,000 was my final OTD price.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    If it's fairly recent, the high mileage is ok. If it's not recently built, the story about just transporting (mostly hwy miles) may not be true.
  • combustible1combustible1 Member Posts: 264
    somebody here said that once.. I'm wondering if anyone else agrees?

    I tried it out myself, but not one right after the other (power vs. non-power).. so I'm not sure.

    If true, it may make me feel better as I comtemplate purchasing a 6 without the 8-way power seat (but it's one of the few that has SAB/SAC.. a non-negotiable with me). This way, I can get an aftermarket moonroof, and have a little more headroom to work with.
  • wenreder1wenreder1 Member Posts: 26
    trading in (or selling privately) my ACURA 3.2TL (2000) orig. owner, w/ 33K miles, always garaged, never winter driven, waxed 4 times a years, Mobil 1 synthetic oil & filter changes every 3K, CD Changer option, Bridgestone SO3-Poles, and in perfect, excellent condition !! The engine is the BEST I have ever had w/ plenty of low end torque........ BUT the gas milage is killing me at PREMIUM FUEL ONLY and a max. of 18 MPG and the darn Acura front rotor warpage problem continually plagues my car as well as 75% of the other TL's & CL's!! The MADZA6 will accept "regular" 87 octane gas with no problem (although I will probably alternate w/ 89 mid grade) and am hoping for a realistic 24 MPG :-) !!
  • wenreder1wenreder1 Member Posts: 26
    ........ the 2003 Mazda6 option packages and accessories are VERY GOOD, in my honest opinion..... it's the new 2004 PACKAGES that make it very, very difficult to order "specific configurations" without having to bundle thousands of dollars worth of "unwanted" items. For example, for '03 the 8-way power drivers seat adjustment was standard on all no matter if cloth or leather seats, NOW for '04 it's a $300 option. But the real problem blossoms when a person like myself wants an '04 MAZDA6s with 17" (50 series) wheels/tires but does NOT want a moonroof or the SPORT PACKAGE (I want "clean" lines of no rear spoiler or side flares - I want a sophisticated "626 or "Millenia" look) and I want a high end Bose Audio and side air bags/curtains !!
    One very nice '04 "package/ option change" is that now the Sport Package is not just limited to BLACK interior. :-)
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    They based the option package changes on real world consumer sales and requests. Regretfully not everyone will like the combo's......They also package the car to help increase re-sale values.

    Go back and read the posts about the packages for 2003 MZ6 intro....besides me, your the only one on edmunds who thought they were good. so it goes to show what works for one guy may not work for another. Remember they build for the masses.

    AKUMAZ....we have 2004's MZ6's in stock. Had them for a week or so. I just havent gone out to look yet.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    I am going to tell myself that this SAB available only with a moonroof and 6 disc changer thing is just until a number of 2004's get built. I hope that is the case.

    Perhaps the configs will change once a suitable inventory is built up.

    Realistic? Or should I start looking elsewhere NOW?
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    really are not reflected at edmunds. In all honesty people in here are the same 25 over and over. All great people, but not a reflection of the masses.
  • wenreder1wenreder1 Member Posts: 26
    .... when you said:
    "Go back and read the posts about the packages for 2003 MZ6 intro....besides me, your the only one on edmunds who thought they were good. so it goes to show what works for one guy may not work for another."
    ..... and in MY case where I wanted an '03 Sepang Green Mazda6S equipped with only Auto. Trans. ($900), Beige Leather Seats ($860) and Bose Audio ($635)the only "unwanted item" I would have only been forced to buy is the Power Moonroof ($700). This makes $3095 over BASE MSRP.
    NOW, for '04 - to get these above items (in addition to the AT -$900) I will have to buy:
    *(1LX) Luxury Pkg. $1500 (for the seats) WHICH NOW REQUIRES (1SE) or (2SE) Sport Package !!
    *(3RA) Bose Audio $635 (which REQUIRES Sport Pkg.)
    *(2SE) Sport Package REQUIRED to get the BOSE - (and now I have unwanted side body extentions that lower my ground clearance) $710
    *(MR1) Power Moonroof (requires Sport Pkg., Bose Audio & Side Air bag/ curtains) $700
    *(AB6) Side Air Bags / Curtains $450
    which totals $4895 that is $1800 MORE for these "unwanted" items !!
    I guess I will STOP beating this dead horse....
    Come and join me "johnclineii" (from above post) let's go look at some OTHER vehicles.......
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I'll get myself a new business card now, adding "Great Person" next to BA, BEd, BSc, BBA, MBA, LLB. J/k :)

    But you're right - I don't know too many people that want to pay extra $ to get SAC/SAB if they are available as individual options, let alone if forced to get leather, BOSE, etc for them.

    I tried to prep a Mazda6i on MUSA w/ABS, SAB/SAC and a sunroof and it's impossible. It said that I must chose b/w the roof or the safety bags - Question to MUSA: Why? Why can't I have BOTH?

    Another beef: Why only 16" alloys? Why is ABS not standard?

    Did somebody get dropped on their head lately at MUSA?

    Dinu

    PS: Not that Mazda Canada is much better, but it's still a little better.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    even in this capitalist US market, have u guys wondered that when u go to buy a pair of trousers, what choice so u have? NONE. you have to buy what the store carries. you do not have the services of a tailor who can stitch you what u want. custom fitting has gone the way of the Dodo.

    Mazda is FOOLISH giving so many options OPENLY on the websites. Mazda should just build the cars in some of the best combinations(popular and economic) and put them on the dealers lot. they will sell if the car itself is fundamentally good.

    my $1.00
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    "even in this capitalist US market, have u guys wondered that when u go to buy a pair of trousers, what choice so u have? NONE. you have to buy what the store carries. you do not have the services of a tailor who can stitch you what u want. custom fitting has gone the way of the Dodo."

    Really? You make it sound like the only place to get pants is some Soviet-style gray storefront that says "PANTS" in Cryllic and carries only one style. This may be true with Mazdas, but it's certainly not so with clothing. I live in the middle of Iowa, and within 5 miles of my house, I can think offhand of three men's clothing stores that do custom tailoring. If I can find it here, no one should have any trouble finding it anywhere else, unless they live in a cabin in Montana or something (do you?)
  • r2s2r2s2 Member Posts: 93
    Is there anyone here, besides me, who actually likes Mazda anymore? Even though I had to wait seven months for my Redfire 6s MT, and couldn't have beige leather with my SP, I love my eight week old car, which has 1300 miles and NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM so far.

    We sound like a bunch of spoiled children here. Chikoo's point was that we don't have unlimited choices in this life, but we sure as heck have a lot of them, even with Mazda. Pick a car -- it doesn't have to be the MZ6 -- move on, and enjoy life!
  • kstukstu Member Posts: 13
    My Mazda6i MT just turned 4000 miles and I am very pleased with it. But I understand the frustration with the option packages. I wanted ABS and SAB but didn't want to pay mid $20k's. Last fall I almost crossed the 6 off my list because of the packages. Around February, Mazda started making 6i MT's with premium, ABS, and SAB. These listed under $21k with an invoice around $19k. My dealer ordered one for me in April and it arrived the first week of July (same time frame as Marla). With the incentives, I wound up paying $16.5k plus ttl. I love the car and was thrilled with the deal.

    It's possible that Mazda may offer different combinations again later in the model year. Otherwise, you could look for an '03 if there is a current combination you like. Looking at the '04 packages, I'm glad I got mine when I did.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    I'm glad I got mine when I did, too - 'cuz Speed Yellow isn't a color option for '04! :-D
  • hokiedoghokiedog Member Posts: 24
    If you get the chance... would you check on the seats? Are they different? At this point, that is my main concern (besides a dealer not budging on the price) with getting the Mazda6... I've read reports about the current ones already fraying.

    dino01: If you can handle Sports and Bose, you can get the ABS/SAB/SAC and Moonroof.

    wenreder1: You get get a 6S auto in either configuration:
    8-way power seat + 6 CD Changer (dealer option)
    Sport package, Bose audio

    You are still stuck with the Sports if you must have Bose, but either way you can always take the thousands you save and get aftermarket leather seats and an even BETTER set of speakers + woofer if you want.

    One final comment: Am I the only one on here that feels that a 6Cyl on a 'family' sedan is a bit of a luxury? For that reason, I don't find it surprising that Mazda is going to favor luxury items on the 6S. They do, afterall, have the 6S Sports + Bose type packages for the young shopper who wants a Mazda6 but doesn't want to waste money on 'boring' options like leather and SAB/SAC.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Am I the only one on here that feels that a 6Cyl on a 'family' sedan is a bit of a luxury?

    You're among a group of people who think 4 cylinders is enough. Others, such as myself, can only conceive of a 4 if it's on a small roadster (Miata - though I'd probably buy one with a renesis) or it's hyper free-spinning and fun like the TSX.

    For that reason, I don't find it surprising that Mazda is going to favor luxury items on the 6S. They do, afterall, have the 6S Sports + Bose type packages for the young shopper who wants a Mazda6 but doesn't want to waste money on 'boring' options like leather and SAB/SAC.

    Leather is boring? Huh, to me it's a must-have as cloth just doesn't age well in my experience. And it's never very comfortable to me.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I am enjoying my 1 month old mazda6i very much so far. No problems at all. I just feel sorry for some of the people who can't get the options they want . I went through the same deal before purchasing mine, but compromised slightly on some options. I was very close to going with a different make though. I think Mazda does pay attention to some of the posts here. I doubt such a big auto company can't find 1 person in their marketing dept. to scan these forums once in a while. I just hope they pick up on some of the gripes here and fix it so people will find less reasons to go to a different make.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I'm sure someone reads this stuff. At bimmerfest BMW brass will send cease and desist letters regarding inside info that's posted in the forums. If they're watching a little website, you can be certain a giant place like edmunds gets looks.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    will be announced on 9/4, per an email from MazdaUSA. the current incentives were extended one day, thru today.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    do u avail of their services?

    All I said is they are going the way of the Dodo.
    I did not say u cannot find them.

    but what do most people use? custom tailor or off-the-rack?

    think about it.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Which would most people rather pay for: custom tailor or off-the-rack?

    I presume the latter.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    exactly.
    so why does Mazda go about giving the option of customizing, raising hopes, and then in the end say No?

    disillusionment, at its best.
  • hokiedoghokiedog Member Posts: 24
    blueguydotcom: Mainly I used ‘boring’ in regards to leather for lack of a better term. Actually, to be fair it is a draw between leather and cloth for me, but leather does tend to be a bit classier, something that doesn't interest everyone. SAB/SAC could be considered ‘boring’ (although necessary, IMO), however. :D

    As for the 4cyl, yeah, I tend to think a 4cyl is adequate for a ‘family’ sedan. I won't deny the 6cyl is more fun, I personally just can't make myself pay the extra money in price and gas mileage for power that I would only get to enjoy maybe 5% of the time. Then again, the M6 is on the upper end of my budget, so cost riegns supreme over fun in this case.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    the 6s doesn't have break-away outside mirrors, does it?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Yes Mazda is customizing, but in reality they are limiting the customization to certain options together. At that point, why not just go with trim levels ala H & A and drop options?

    Mazda isn't trying to drive buyers crazy. I'm sure their research shows that people want or are willing to accept the option packages as offered.

    Full customization would be near impossible without higher prices and longer lead times.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I personally just can't make myself pay the extra money in price and gas mileage

    Depends on the vehicle. The 6 suffers a mileage penalty with a V6. In some cars the freeway stuff is nearly the same and on freeway jaunts I love the simple pull of a 6.

    for power that I would only get to enjoy maybe 5% of the time.

    I hear this often and feel a bit confused. My area is pretty populated yet I find myself shifting at 6500 rpm quite often through the first two gears. Or if I want to shoot a gap on the road. Regardless, I tap into my engine's power quite often during simple drives. In my jaunt out to grab some lunch I only drove maybe 10 miles roundtrip, but I came near redline a few times. All a matter of driving styles. For some of us the power's always used. :)
     Then again, the M6 is on the upper end of my budget, so cost riegns supreme over fun in this case.
  • mes58mes58 Member Posts: 21
    I was advised to bring this topic here so here goes.

    My 6i has been running great in the two months I have had it. None of the problems I have read about here (touch wood) in 5K miles of driving!

    My problem is with the appearance package I have on my car. The plastic add-on pieces have a fairly low profile. I am thinking about removing the plastic piece at the front of the car and leaving the rest of the package in place. Would this ruin the look of the car do you think? I have found it awkward parking in places where the car's front overhangs the curb. On occasion, the plastic piece has grated against the concrete and I fear further damage may follow.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    park further away from the curb!!!!!!

    this is a big pet peeve of mine, people park so far up in a parking space that their front tires touch the curb/barrier, and the nose of the car sticks out into the sidewalk, and I have to look out to prevent a nasty bump with a car's front bumper.

    the parking space's plenty deep for most cars, save for full size SUVs/pickups, why park so deep!!!!???? grrrrrrr
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    flawless miles on my MZ6.
  • combustible1combustible1 Member Posts: 264
    no break-away mirrors on the US version of the 6. However, we do have break-away doors though.. you break the mirror, there goes the door!

    Thanks for info on rebates.. I'll be anxious to hear what they have to say. (Maybe it'll help ease the disappointment of my aborted car purchase attempt last night, as documented over in the 'prices paid' section).
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I sometimes like to park deep in a parking stall so to minimize other cars backing into mine. I think the more my car's behind protrudes into the driveway, the more likely someone's going to put a ding on it. This is assuming there are no 'hazards' on the protruding side. Just one reason I guess.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    combustible, you're joking about the mirror right? If not I would guess the mirror would just come off cleanly, and you'd have to replace the whole mirror and the plastic housing. Cars don't have breakaway mirrors, they have foldable mirrors, which still get scratched badly if someone were to actually hit it.
  • combustible1combustible1 Member Posts: 264
    My understanding is, with a break-away (more accurately, folding) mirror, you would only have to replace the mirror and surrounding housing/support.

    A non break-away would damage the door too, and it would be that much more expensive to repair.

    someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    oh, and I'm with the ya on the parking up close to the barrier, sidewalk, etc., being more fearful of someone smacking me from behind. Damage from a pedestrian crossing in front isn't as potentially damaging as a car striking from the rear.
  • ian2ian2 Member Posts: 168
    As witness in the recent mishap to my 6, just about everything is "break-away"... bumper, quarter panel, lights and moldings. The tech has just finished welding the new quater panel back on and it will get painted sometime this week. If I'm lucky, I'll get it back before next weekend.
  • miata10aemiata10ae Member Posts: 90
    The 2nd part of the movie "Rush" is now available at the japanese web site:
    http://special.atenza.mazda.co.jp

    Enjoy!!!
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    sure!!

    u break the mirror, it will fall away.
    It would not bring the door down with it. why should it?
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I also don't think breaking the mirrors will take the doors with it. The doors are held together by metal, and the mirrors are just plastic. So I'd think the plastic mirrors will break off a lot easier than unlatching a metal door. It might get scratched though, but structurally the door will be undamaged.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I just heard the October issue supposedly raves about the Mazda6, and how it compared better than cars that cost a lot more such as Nissan Maxima, Subaru WRX, Lexus IS300, Audi A4, Saab 9-3, and Mercedes C230K. I always thought the Mazda6 felt and looked like a car costing a lot more. What a great value. I'm enjoying my M6 more every day.
  • thegreatvudinithegreatvudini Member Posts: 103
    On MAUSA site, all incentives were extended until 9/8/03.

    Automobile voted the Mz6 Family Sedan of the Year, and has a pic of a yellow 6 (mine) in the fog in front of a lighthouse.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    It looks like the 6 is finally carving out a niche in the automarket. 7,328 6's sold last month. It looks like the car is finally on car buyers shoppers list. 39,000+ 6's sold to date. Overall Mazda sales were down but the 6 looks like it will be a hit in the mid size segment for now anyway.
  • kstukstu Member Posts: 13
    Mirrors on the 6 don't stick out past the doors as much as they do on many cars. Walking past the 6, I might bump my arm on the mirror, but my daughter's Focus will catch me in the side.
  • ian2ian2 Member Posts: 168
    Have ever tried walking past an Excursion? The thing wacks you in the face.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    ***Have ever tried walking past an Excursion? The thing wacks you in the face. ****

    Only if it doesn't like you! :)
  • cubfan2cubfan2 Member Posts: 18
    Mine has 1,100 miles on it and I love it.

    My ONLY regret is no Bose Sound System. Error on the side of packages that include this feature would be my only advice.
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I see the M3 has taken the PRO's and M6's place on the Top 10 today:)

    The Zoom-Zoom Crew is back!!!

    Over 7.000 sales in August? Great news!

    Dinu
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    If that keeps up, they will sell well over 80000 next year. So much for the doom-and-gloom that we heard so often in this discussion a while back.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    massive incentives in aug...
  • uncledaviduncledavid Member Posts: 548
    The Automobile Magazine article referenced above had the following ranking:

    1. Acura TSX
    2. BMW 325i
    3. Infiniti G35
    4. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
    5. Mazda 6s
    6. Subaru Impreza WRX
    7. Lexus IS300
    8. Audi A4 1.8T Quattro
    9. Saab 9-3 Linear
    10. Mercedes-Benz C230K Sport
    11. Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Comp G
    12. Nissan Maxima SE

    I haven't seen it yet, but people who have report that the article is very badly done and it was really not clear why they named the TSX at the top of the heap. Statistically, the TSX was outperformed by many of the other cars (in terms of braking, 0-60, etc.). Note, however, that the M6 wound up ranked higher than cars that cost $10,000 more.
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