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I'm looking at January for the invoice prices. As soon as the factory gets up to speed and the inventory gets on the lots. Right now the demand is hot and the inventory is cool.
2. High beam
3. Turn indicator
4. Fog light
If the car doesn't have the sport package, the fog light is replaced by a dummy bulb.
There will always be a place for the traditional car dealership with salespeople for consumers such as WonderWoman who want to interact with a person and learn about the car, get treated with respect...etc.
It's like buying stereo equipment, if you don't understand much about stereos and want to discuss what is right for you, you go to a specialty store to discuss it with the people there. They may not have the best prices, but you're paying for that extra knowledge and experience. On the other hand if you know a lot about stereo equipment and did your own research, known exactly what you want, and price is the only remaining determinant factor, you go to a stereo equipment mail order catalog or online sites and get it from there, where you won't get service, but you'll benefit from the more efficient retail system (low inventory, no salespeople salaries to pay, no walk-in stores' property rent...etc), all of which are paid for by the consumers in the end.
There's a price for everything (it's how our society runs), some people are willing to pay a bit extra to save time, or frustration, others are willing to be patient and take longer, with more work to get a lower price. Different strokes for different folks.
Wonderwoman, please just stop. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make these people see things from your point of view. Give up.
To all future Mazda6 buyers, I think you have seen what happens when you admit to paying money for a car.
I've enjoyed reading nearly every single post and have been interested in the 6 since I first saw pictures well over a year ago. But lately I'm having a hard time clicking on the link for fear of reading pointless bickering.
The Mazda6 is finally in the hands of the drivers; this discussion should be blossoming with first-hand accounts and new discoveries. Can we please make it happen without ruining it by arguing over money?
edmunds2460:
**I've never treated one with disrespect, but
with very few exceptions I've found that most of them couldn't find their rear end with a searchlight let alone tell you anything about the car you didn't already know.**
The salesman you bought your Protegé from worked 13 hour days six days a week at Parks Mazda, 8:00AM to 9:00PM. It's BORING walking the floor with no customers in the showroom, but they have to be there, and little commission when they do sell a car. High turnover in sales people. He's gone, so is the salesman who sold me my Protegé, and so is the salesmanager. Would you memorize the specifications of 10 to 12 models if you thought you were going to quit?
Of course, they don't know as much about the various models and the specs, these days the customer already knows that, and more, by the time he walks into the showroom. The Internet, car magazines, and Edmunds.com boards prepare customers, ARM (for the battle) is a better word. LOL!
everyday: The headlamps on the 6 are in rows that simulate European projector headlamps. Outboard (left headlamp group) is the lowbeam, next is the parking/turn signal, next is the fog light (on sports package models only), and the inboard lamp is highbeam with a driving lamp. Fog lights are, or will be, available in kits and mount in the bumper facia right and left of the air intake for the radiater as a dealer installed option.
Interesting standard feature: front mud guards included, rear mud guards optional, $30 pair. The only thing worse than that is if they sold them one to a package. Sheesh Mazda, who thought that one up?
fowler3
I'm assuming Mazda is expecting 5-star ratings from NHTSA tests. Anyone know if Mazda kept the more rigorous IIHS-offset crast test rating in mind when designing the 6? Anyone care to explore this?
- Jeff
It is smaller, but not crowded in the front. The back seat is comfortable, more spacious than in the Protegé, and supportive on curves. More legroom, too. I found the front seats confortable and, I, also, hate hard seats. The seat cushion gives when passing over road patches. Something many car seats do not do, especially leather seats.
Can you imagine a car as big and boxy as a Camry having the performance the 6 has? Or the Avalon? LOL!
fowler3
The taillamps, when on, have the radiating lines seen on Jaguars and the Altima taillamps. The backup and turn signal lamps have a similar look, almost jewel-like.
fowler3
Sounds like you're hooked big boy!
In headlights and/or lower front cowl?
the car is part of the program but no Mazda dealer is forced to participate in the program. So either wait until your dealer decides they will S-plan the 6 or find a another Mazda Dealer in your area who will.
I don't know of any dealers in my area who are taking S-plan sales at this point.
The 6 is looking to be my brother's next car. I've sat in it and it feels great, especially for the price. Not a fan of the painted silver plastic though. Looking forward to a test drive when the local dealer has a 6s manual.
-B
I was interested in the Mercury Marauder when I first heard about it and spent some time on Edmund's MM Town Hall. When the car finally came out people were going nuts and buying it at MSRP or more. Now, 4-5 month s later I have seen ads for $29,500 (MSRP=34,500). I think for most cars, it pays to wait.
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#4237 of 4237 MSRP pricing... by vocus Dec 04, 2002 (09:58 am)
The Chrysler PT Cruiser is a good example of a car that was going for MSRP PLUS $4000 or so when it debuted. Now, they can't give them away, and it's been that way for awhile now. What happend to those people who paid MSRP+ when the car was new and wanted to trade before the car was paid off? They lost
This is why we said it's not a sound financial decision (not to use another term) to buy a car that just comes out. But it's your $. Could have used it on something better (paying off the 6, taking a trip, doing home renovation, etc), but hey, we're just saying this, we don't really care.
Now others can go in a few months and get the 6 for a better price.
Cheers!
Dinu
Really, I'm just pissed that I can't find a single manual tranny within 50 miles.
Have you considered installing a set of lights at your windshield washer nozzles? It screams "mad stylz, yo!" All da kewl kars have dem:)
Dinu
The number of orders we place with Mazda is determined by the number of cars sold in a predetermined period. For instance I beleive our allotment of the 6 was based on how many 626 and protege models we sold over the last 4-6 months.
A smaller dealer is allowed to order a small number (lets say 15 for a month) That dealer is less likely to take the SPlan order because they'll need to sell those 15 cars for more.
If you need splan you should check with the largest dealers in your area and see if they will take your plan if you order.
Yes. It's your job. And if you're cruising the floor 13 hours a day, you can easily spend 30 minutes per car memorizing all its features.
With the true "one price" dealers that I have seen, cars sell for ~5% over invoice to EVERYONE with no negotiating. Because this is more fair,
Fair? "Life is pain, highness, anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something." Fairness is a crazy, touchy-feely, illogical and inconsistent thing. If all the fairness people had their way, we'd be living in Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron." No thanks.
But why am I telling YOU this.
Meade
Usually, we don't haggle over low-priced items, only big-ticket items: Cars and houses.
meinrad: Not yet! I'm thinking about it though. After you drive an 6S you get da FEVER! If you like small cars, want the up-market features, want performance and ride quality, do not want to pay "entry-level luxury" prices, there is nothing else out there that comes close -- except the Mazda6. No competition = MSRP.
fowler3
Rich
Meade
I would bet there will be a hitch to fit a 6 within a year whether they are saying nothing is planned or not.
The owners manual for the 6 says the same thing as the Pro manual, but it's just for liability/warranty.
The more weight you put on the back end the less chance you are going ANYWHERE!
fowler3
I would never ever ever put those washer nozzle lights on my car. Ever.
I'm wondering if buying now will mean I miss out on aggressive financing in a few months. I'm looking at 4.99%/60 months right now.
Has Mazda offered 0% or very low rates like other automakers have?
What's your opinion - would I be better served financially to wait, or is this about as good as it's going to get?
Also, the S-plan is a dealer by dealer thing. They can refuse to sell you the car on that price plan if they want to. And since most are charging MSRP (from what everyone is saying here) you might not be able to get the S plan price yet.
Meade,
It's funny you should mention judges in Chesterfield. I get to go see one in January for speeding on I95 two sundays ago. I have the option to call and pay, but I am toying with showing up and seeing what happens. It's my first speeding ticket since 1991.
Meade
I saw my first on-road Mazda6 today. Actually it was in the parking lot of my office. A nice silver with the sport package, leather and automatic. Very sharp. It was parked next to a last generation 626 and actually looked a bit bigger.
Just curious.
Why do people obsess about stuff like this with cars? If you like the car, who cares what others think?