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http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/t1/03mazda6.htm
And in the USA you can get the 17-inch wheels with only the Sport Package.
The official name is -- Mazda6 -- no separation between the name and the numeral. Just like it appears on the car. And there are no model badges.
Both the Mazda6i and the Mazda6s look the same except for the wheels, base car gets steel wheels with plastic wheel covers similar in design to those used on the 2001 Protegé LX,except 16-inch.
The 16-inch Alloys come with the Premium Package. Both models get the dual exhaust with chrome tips.
For old women, the right exhaust connects to the engine, the left exhaust connects under the driver's seat (to a MAN-afold).
fowler3
***For old women, the right exhaust connects to the engine, the left exhaust connects under the driver's seat (to a MAN-afold).
And how do said pipes connect for old men?
Hmmm, could we be considering a 6 sometime soon?
Meade
P.S. It's "manifold," not "manafold," Mr. Get-it-Right of late. ;-)
I think Mazda said the whole NA market would get the red tail lights instead of the clear ones. I was glad they went with red. I wouldn't have liked the car as much if it had clear lights. Kinda turns me off the Altima too, even the interior didn't do such a good job already.
Then Edmunds and KBB have it listed wrong, and MSN and autos.com have it right!
I'm happy I got it, but I would have liked to have it for the holiday vacations (If I manage to get any, of course... tons of work to be done!).
It's because Honda buyers think in more basic terms, like "it has great resale", or "it's a Honda, what else do I need to know?". They don't ask a lot of questions, like "why doesn't my LX4 have disc brakes on the rear?", or "why can't I have a split-floding rear seat?", or "why doesn't my $22000 EX4 have a leather-covered steering wheel?". It makes life easier. BTW, with respect to the last three questions, the Mazda6 has all three, even in the base "i" model!
audia8q: Have a timeline or verification that this will happen?
fowler: I do not want an automatic, that's the whole point. Eck.
Considering we got the Mazda6 with about 10 days left in the month and many other dealers don't have them at all (still), the sales for November are quite respectable. Another truck landed yesterday. They were all spoken for.
Maybe 6 owner's don't ask themselves a few questions like:
"Why isn't ABS standard?"
"Why can't I get dual-zone climate control?"
"Why can't I get LED gauges in all models?"
"Why can't I roll my windows down with the button on my key fob?"
Why ask those kind of questions? I was just pointing out that it seems noone is buying this car. There are a couple of people in here with one but not that many considering the buzz about this car before it came out and I've yet to see one on the road. The pictures have been out 6 months before it's release date while Accord pictures didn't come out until a few weeks before it's release. I'm just hoping this car isn't a dud. But if it is it will allow some to get an excellent car at a awesome price as happened with the Civic SI.
Maybe for the way you drive, but for a car that claims to have any sort of sport, it's a requirement.
Honda can play the immediate release game because they already have a strong reputation built for the Accord. Besides, who would want to show off baby pics of an ugly baby when your old one looks better? Mazda's situation was exactly opposite.
when is the last time you read the Protege forum? Please go and read it again, oh and don't forget few hundred extra pounds on the Accord/Mazda 6 compared to the Protege.
Bruno
Boxfan...I'm with you. I'm getting a 5 door when they come out.
It has been discussed in the Pro room that in a front wheel drive car under normal driving conditions drum brakes provide perfectly adequate braking capacity. The weight of the car only means the drums have to be larger. The harder you brake the less work the rear brakes can do.
Stephen
Can you say extreme brake fade?????
yikes!
Why would you take and Accord/6 on the track? And if you were going to do that wouldn't you install a roll cage? And if you can install a roll cage, a set of decent rotors and pads should be a piece of cake.
Bruno
" Hondas aren't sporty driving cars anyway, all the ones I drove have never been. I said this to a friend of mine the other day, and he was like, "it has 240hp!". So do some SUVs, what's your point?? "
EXACTLY. Horses are great for ohhs and ahhss over paper performance. FACT: The V6 Passat puts out less than 200hp, the Audi 220 and the BMW 330i *just* 225. Few here will argue that all three of these cars are more fun to drive than any Cam/cord/ima.
Oddly enough - they're also the cars the 6 designers used as benchmarks.
Also of note are the cars Car & Driver rated the 6s against in their evaluation. A VW, a Subaru, the Altima and perhaps one other I can't remember. No Honda, no Camry, no comparison. Pun intended.
I for one think people put too much emphasis on near-gimmick things like dual-climate control. The BMW 325/330 doesn't have it and it's not available. Hmm.... the comparable Ultimate Driing Machine with no DCC? No one seems to complain. And base MSRP on a 325 (with *only* 184hp mind you) is $27,800.
No - I don't own a 6. Yet. The people that bang their chests about owners not posting need to relax. It was JUST released last month. Or maybe the owners too busy having fun driving the thing. In either case, what can you honestly expect? It's a wheels-up new model from a smaller, niche player. NO one knows about it. Momentum takes time to develop. Honda and Toyota have had momentum for years.
Just kidding Paul! :P
manafold is the way tarheels pronounce it.
fowler3
I will pay someone to remove the ABS from my car. Now find me someone willing doing the same to swap the disk to drum disk.
Clear enough?
Bruno
Paper performance...Then what's the point in disc brakes all around? Most FWD family sedans will never reap the benefits.
The Accord/Camry are also benchmarks of the U.S. sedan market. They may not be known for handling curves at top speed but they don't have a tendency to skitter off of them either.
Gimmicks not necessary? The 3 series may not have dual zone but the 5 does. And some Benzes have separate zones for the rear passengers. For the normal everyday drive to work 4 wheel discs are a gimmick especially if you aren't going to go all the way and have ABS standard also.
No one in the U.S. will purposely remove ABS from a car that is supposed to have it. Too many lawyers here.
... and those of us who drive in the mountains enjoy the reduced brake fade.
... Also, who knows when a few extra feet of stopping distance may make the difference between accident and accident avoidance.
They've recognized that they can't compete in that part of the segment - so must we. That means we need to recognize that Mazda will never be a volume seller like Toyota or Honda. They will never have that large a share in the market. They will have to be happy being a niche company. I for one like that niche alot. I like it much more than the huge piece of the market that CamCords eat up, and as long as Mazda stays true to the vision represented by the 6 and the upcoming RX-8, they should do well in their niche.
I personally find that to be a very exciting prospect. The CamCord buyers (and builders and engineers) can go off and do whatever they want - I don't care.
Four-wheel discs isn't paper performance. There is a use for it, and it's more important than horsepower. 9 times out of 10, drums all around would work just fine. It's that one moment where you *really* need all the stopping ability you can get your foot on that front disks or four-wheel discs become necessary. Most people won't ever need airbags. If that's the case, why have them either? Chances are, you won't need them. But what if you do? You'll want that performance.
True enough, Honda's and Toyota's handle fine. My point is that their intended use is not as sporting sedans. They may be US benchmarks for four-doors, however, they are not US benchmarks for sport sedans. A subtle difference, but a significant one.
In the Accord.
So the drums in back will be Okay.
Like I said it's [non-permissible content removed] for tat. Drum brakes, ABS, airbags if they are standard they are perks but when made options few people pay for them. It's really not worth arguing about.
I would never buy one for myself, though.
Different strokes for different folks - even married folks. ;-)
You can say the Accord crashes well. Ha, ha,haahaa!! Talk about closing the gate after the horses have left. This is the exact reason for HAVING good brakes. I don't want to crash at all, and if better brakes mean I might not - Gimme.
The Accord: A good family car
The 6: An aspiring sports sedan
Two different cars for two different people. I thought we already cleared this one up a while back (in those forums that were shut down).
Dinu