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So far, it's been very easy dealing with them, but you have to be aware of a few things. First is the obvious $75 retainer fee. This gets applied to the $399 CarsAtCost service fee, which is due at the time of delivery. Somewhere in the middle is a $1000 deposit, paid against the balance due on the vehicle. There's also a "courtesy delivery fee" for getting the vehicle to a dealership located near you. I was quoted a cost of $175.
So... your "at invoice" vehicle really runs you about $574 over invoice, without haggling. To me, it's worth it. I couldn't get a local dealer to order a truck for me, muchless get it for below $1k over invoice on the ones they had on the lot.
Depending upon the vehicle you want, they place the order through the fleet department of a dealership they've made arrangements with. My Dodge Ram QC 1500 4x4 was actually ordered from Diamler-Chrysler by a dealer in Hamilton, Ohio. You're supposed to only go through ACLS for information. Contacting either the ordering or delivering dealership is a no-no, as stated in the contract.
They have a website page for checking on the status of your order. It's updated weekly. I placed my order on Sept. 9th. It is scheduled to be built on Oct 23rd and delivered Nov 10th.
Both Starr and Jennifer at ACLS are great to work with. In theory, all of the paperwork will be handled ahead of time. All I've had to do so far is sign and fax back the order and give them the $1k deposit. There's a checklist they give you that leads you through the steps. I'll let you know just how smooth it goes.
You mentioned that you had to pay a "courtesy delivery fee" of $175. Isn't this something that should be covered by the $650 destination charge that is already added into the invoice price and do you think this is something that can be challenged?
Considering the cost of the truck, I guess $175 isn't that bad...but if I can avoid paying it, that's just more money to buy more toys (aka accessories) for the truck later
Instead of the $149, if I wanted, I could fly to Cincinnati (they'd get me a one-way ticket for $99), and I'd drive it back. Heck, for an additional $59, they can bring it to me, as far as I'm concerned.
Now I know what they mean by courtesy delivery (ok, so i'm a little slow at these things). I was thinking that you were required to go to the dealer to p/u the truck and finish the paper work and that the $175 was just just added profit for having the vehicle delivered to the dealership lot. Sounds like the extra money is definitely worth it then. Thanks for the response.
Only one complaint, it needed an alignment, didn't think that should be necessary as it came straight from the factory, but I have an appointment tomorrow to get that resolved.
Think I typed it in wrong.
Keep us updated about how your service is at Carsatcost. That's one of the buying services I am seriously considering when I go to order my 1500 QC 4x4. Been reading alot of mixed reviews (mostly negative) about another buying/broker service called Carorder.com in another Townhall group. Hope it all works out for you.
When you ordered you 6 speed, I assume you designated the ETC since the ETH wasn't available as an option. Did they automatically upgrade your order or am I missing something? Is it the ETH you'll be getting? Thanks.
Truck is being built in St. Louis. Any Ideas on how long it will take to get to Georgia?
P.S. Are the new towing mirrors heated?
Isn't the gear ratio the number of turns of the drive shaft to get one turn of the axle?
I have always heard that 4.10 is a better ratio for towing in the mountains (keep the rpm's up), which would be consistent with that definition.
If so, how does 4.10 help with acceleration? It would seem to provide more power & less acceleration.......
1. B45 Phoenix - PPA/EB-PF $210.00
2. T45 Phoenix - DAA $260.00
I live in Las Vegas....does anyone have any ideas what the heck they are?
You would think they would be the same, but the '85 Ford F250 4x4 I have was ordered with the 4.10 gear in the rear, but the front diff came with the std 3.56 ratio, causing it to "drag" the rear wheels when in 4Lo. If there are any Dodge 4 wheelers out there with a 4.10 rear, would like to hear of your experiences driving in 4Lo in a straight line, on blacktop (like when pulling a boat trailer up a ramp). Thanks ...
Does anyone have a 2000 Ram 2500/3500 QC Cummins/6 spd/SLT+ in their driveway yet ????
I'd like to know .....
Yes, My local dealer told me that each dealer is allotted a couple of slots each year that allows them to put a factory order ahead of everybody else. Most dealers will only exercise this option in extreme (money making) situations. I wouldn't expect the dealer to offer this unless he's going to make a ton of money (at your expense). In other words... if you want invoice price, don't expect a dealer to go out of his way for you!
Please post as soon as you get your truck on Mon.
Just curious, also, as to how much your paying over dealer invoice for your truck???
I agreed to $200 over invoice, (probably could have gotten the dealer down to actual invoice) which brings total to $28736 minus tax/title/tags. But I was pleased enough with the lack of hassle from the salesman (actually saleswoman). Having tried to order a 1999 6-spd and cancelling it because of restriction, I reordered a 2000 and just happened to get it in at the right time. Also the relatively small 1999-2000 price increase was a windfall to be sure.
I keep hear stories of people having problems with the transmission.
Has anyone had any problems with this truck in the past?
Can't decide between the F-250 PowerStroke and the Ram.
I like the Ram better than the F-250 but I don't want to get stuck with my truck in the repair shop all the time.
Any help would be appreciated.
Any word about your truck, did you pick it up on Mon. ?????? Your probably out showin' it off....
I would be
If anyone knows or has heard of this kind of pulling problem, let me know.
got it and lovin' it... can't wait to get it broken in and start pullin my boat around. i'm glad i went with the long bed QC--the longer wheelbase really seems to make a better ride. the six speed xmsn is great--gear spacing seems much better suited to the engine than the five speed was.
How about a little report on what speed your going in 6th at 1500rpm, 1800rpm, 2000rpm, 2200rpm ...
And what rear end did you get 4.10 or 3.54 ?
Did you get the SLT+ Pkg ... and if so how's the finish work ????