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Volvo XC90 SUV

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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Nah, I'll just wait and pick up a used one! With depreciation the prices will plummet to 6 figures just driving them off the lot! ;-)

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  • kullenbergkullenberg Posts: 283
    Wait a year or so and then get on thru the overseaseas delivery program; about 9% cheaper and a trip to Sweden thrown in!!
    Cheers
    Pat
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    Tidester is trying to say he can't afford a car that costs in the MILLIONS.
  • I was able to see the XC90 at the North American International Auto show in Detroit this past Jan. This SUV looks better in person than all the pictures and videos I have seen. The appearance was quite striking and fresh in the sea of cars and trucks. The dealer in my area wanted a $1000 non refundable deposit. I told him as much as I like the XC90 I'm not willing to give him the deposit until I can take one out on a test drive.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    Wow, this certainly puts the XC90 on my list!


    From http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5158


    VOLVO XC90: $35,725 BASE

    Volvo says the base all-wheel-drive version of its new XC90 sport-ute will run $35,725, including the stand-alone option of all-wheel drive ($1750) and $625 in destination fees. A front-drive XC90 won't be available until spring of 2003, but will cost $33,975 including destination. Both of those models sport a 2.5-liter in-line five with a single turbocharger and 208 hp. The all-wheel-drive XC90 T6, with a 268-hp, twin-turbo in-line six, will be $40,600. While no plans exist right now to import the European five-cylinder diesel model, Volvo president Vic Doolan says the common-rail diesel is a possibility for the model during its seven-year run. The XC90 goes on sale in the U.S. in November with what Volvo describes as the first roll-stability control system, which uses the brakes to restore vehicle stability if a sensor between the front seats detects imminent rollover.

  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    If a base XC90 is $35,725, I would imagine the real selling price for an I5 without the third row would be roughly $40k? E.g. adding in packages many (but not all) buyers would add. Though at that point the $40k T6 becomes more of an option. I'd imagine maybe another $1k for the third row seat.

    Either way, it's competitive, especially against, say, an ML320 whose street price is roughly similar.

    The pricing is good. I wish Volvo would include scheduled maintenance with the purchase price, as does the ML320. Aren't Volvos fairly pricey for even regular maintenance?
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    I agree, William. I didn't think prices would be this good. Now, if only Volvo would include scheduled maintenance with the purchase price... I don't have any idea how much maintenance for Volvos are nowadays.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    XC90 price news


    Irvine, CA - Volvo Cars of North America, LLC (VCNA) announced pricing today of its first-ever sport-utility vehicle, the all-new 2003 Volvo XC90. Two all-wheel-drive versions of the XC90 will be offered initially when the vehicle goes on sale in November: the XC90 AWD and the XC90 AWD T6.


    The XC90 AWD models will be equipped with Volvo's electronically controlled all-wheel-drive system, a $1,750 stand-alone option, bringing the initial price of the vehicle to a very competitive $35,100. Base price for the XC90 AWD T6, which includes leather seating surfaces, a power glass moonroof and an in-dash six-CD audio system, is $39,975. A front-wheel-drive XC90, scheduled to go on sale the first quarter of 2003, is aggressively priced at $33,350. The destination charge for all models is $625.


    With 75 years of safety innovation behind it, the Volvo XC90 truly is the next-generation SUV. Incorporating the world's first Roll Stability Control (RSC) system, pretension seatbelts in all seating positions, an inflatable side curtain for the third row seats, and an integrated sliding center booster seat for children, along with a high-strength Boron steel roof structure, the XC90 combines both active and passive safety systems in one stunningly designed package. Additional standard safety features include Dynamic Stability Traction Control (DSTC), anti-lock brakes, WHIPS, Volvo's whiplash protection seats, and the SIPS side-impact protection system.


    Powering the XC90 is a light pressure, turbocharged inline 5-cylinder engine that generates 208 horsepower at 5,000 rpm and 236 lb.-ft. of torque from 1,500-4,500 rpm.


    The XC90 AWD T6 is motivated by a more powerful twin turbocharged inline-6 cylinder engine that makes 268 horsepower at 5,100 rpm and 280 lb.-ft. of torque from 1,800-5,000 rpm.


    "Our designers and development engineers have shown great creativity in designing an SUV which optimizes all the inherent virtues of an SUV - versatility, capacity, driving position - with interior and exterior styling which is very distinctive and attractive," said Vic Doolan, President and CEO of Volvo Cars of North America. "At the same time they exercised conscience and consideration to ensuring the XC90 leads the segment in terms of safety for all occupants and consideration for all road users, environmental care and performance when it matters."

  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    From a prominent Volvo forum :)

    These are the variants that we will see in the US:
    XC90 AWD T6ASR5
    XC90 AWD T6ASR7
    XC90 AWD 2.5TA5
    XC90 AWD 2.5TASR5
    XC90 AWD 2.5TASR7

    "SR" stands for the Geartronic transmission (5-speed for the 2.5T and 4-speed for the T6) and Sunroof.

    "5" or "7" stand for the amount of available seats.

    One can order a non-sunroof XC90 but only with the 2.5T engine and only with the 5-passenger configuration.

    There will be FWD models available, but only limited in the NorthEast, mainly for the Southern and SouthWestern regions.

    Volvo Retailers will get a non-sellable model in early October for people to test-drive while the first models will arrive (for sale/delivery) in early November.

    Confirmed exterior colors:

    019 Black
    189 White
    417 Nautic Blue Metallic
    426 Silver Metallic
    446 Ash Gold Metallic
    447 Cypress Green Metallic
    452 Black Sapphire Metallic
    454 Ruby Red Metallic
    456 Crystal Green Metallic

    Interior colors:

    C070 Graphite cloth/vinyl
    C080 Taupe cloth/vinyl
    C970 Graphite Leather
    C981 Taupe Leather

    Available packaged options are:

    XC90 2.5T AWD Premium Package:
    - Leather
    - Power Passenger Seat
    - Auto Dimming Mirror
    - HomeLink
    - Rear View Memory Mirrors
    - 6-CD Player In Dash

    XC90 T6 AWD Premium Package:
    - Power Retractable Rear View Mirrors
    - Wood Steering Wheel
    - Premium Sound System
    - 18" ATLANTIS Alloy Wheels

    XC 90 Security Package:
    - Laminated Windows
    - Level Sensor
    - Mass Movement Sensor
    - Infrared Windshield

    XC 90 Climate Package:
    - Heated Front Seats
    - Headlamp Cleaners
    - Rain Sensor
    - Air Quality Sensor

    Individual options are:

    Center Booster Cushion
    Volvo Navigation System
    Bi-Xenon Headlamps (T6 only)
    Premium Sound System
    Rear Parking Assistance
    Cargo Protection Net
    Subwoofer
    17" NEPTUNE Alloys (std. T6, optional on 2.5T)
    Rear Head Phone Outlets

    A Swedish source told to get ready for an XC90R (MY2004). It is all but a done deal, the only question is whether it will have a V8 or the S60R/V70R engine. It is rumored that Volvo (US) executives are pushing for the "R" engine rather than the V8.
  • newbie9newbie9 Posts: 1
    I HAVE to get a new car (but can wait until XC90 is released).. this one really captured my interest. Having never owned a Volvo or bought the first year of any make/model, how wrong can I be in purchasing an XC90? I need honesty here! I like the safety features Volvo offers and has a reputation for (esp since I was just involved in an accident). I like to hold onto my cars for awhile and really want to make the right choice... comments, suggestions??
  • I just purchased my first Volvo in May. Its a S60 2.4T that has exceeded my expectations and has been flawless (5,000 miles) so far. I plan to purchase the XC 90 in Dec. I have two young kids and safety is most import for me as well. With a new vehicle some recalls may occur. If you can live with that then go for it.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    It'll be a nice vehicle, but it is a shame that Volvo is only offering bi-xenon headlamps on the T6 model. Basically they're forcing folks to get the more expensive version when they can easily offer it on the 2.5T. The ML320 has bi-xenons as an option in each model. They're basically now considered a safety feature (improving vision on dark roads or in bad weather) and Volvo is known for safety, so why skimp and not at least offer it as an option?
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    ...will likely trickle down to the 2.5T in succeeding model years. But, yes, I agree that if safety is priority for Volvo, it should have been made available from the get-go.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    I wonder if the headlamp housing on the 2.5T will accept a future "upgrade" to the bi-xenons? E.g. it's not as simple as upgrading the bulb and ballast, like aftermarket xenon retrofit kits try to do. The housing and its reflectors need to be designed specifically for the xenons as opposed to the halogens to get the optimal result.

    Come to think of it, I'd imagine the T5's xenons are auto-leveling, and being extra cost, I guess it wouldn't be in the initial 2.5T's. So optimally upgrading a 2.5T may not be possible after all.
  • The 2.5 T will be offered with Bi Xenon's as an option.

    Info Courtesy of Volvospy:

    Several friends at Volvo have sent me the pricing for the options packages for the XC90. While some of the packages price out about where I thought they would, the third seat versatility pkg is somewhat less than I expected, considering the package contents.

    Bi-xenons are optional on both the 2.5T and T6 versions.

    It seems that Volvo is going to give the XC90 the same promotion that it gave to the S60 two years ago, where the premium packages will be "introductory priced", meaning at this special price for a limited time. I expect the limited time to end possibly in the spring, when the base FWD
    version will arrive. While prices may become somewhat more negotiable when supply equals demand, perhaps by summer time, the retail MSRP will probably be $500-1000 higher as well by then, which would eliminate any real savings.

    An almost fully optioned 2.5T/7-passenger with premium, climate pkg, versatility pkg, and metallic paint will MSRP for $41,020.

    A similarly equipped 7-passenger T6 comes out to $43,915. If you loaded a T6 with Bi-Xenons, Nav DVD, and security pkg, you would be at $46,985.

    These prices are within a few hundred $$$ of what I estimated we would bve seeing in several posts of a few months ago, so I think Volvo did well and listened to it's dealers to keep the pricing attractive.

    As mentioned in an earlier posting, the base prices don't include the destination charge of $625.

    Base price XC90 2.5T FWD $33,350
    AWD option 1,750
    Destination charge 625

    2.5T includes power driver's seat, 16" alloys, Am/Fm/single in-dash CD)

    2.5T option packages-

    Premium pkg 2.5T 2,575
    (Power moonroof, leather seating, power passenger seat, 6-CD in-dash CD, auto-dimming mirror, Homelink, memory mirrors)

    Versatility pkg 1,675
    (Third row seating, rear A/C/, integrated center child booster cushion, rear audio headphone outlets and controls, Nivomat self-leveling rear suspension)

    Climate pkg 595
    (Heated seats, headlight wipers, rainsensor, IAQS)

    Security pkg 675
    (Laminated side windows, level sensor, mass movement sensor, infrared windshield and front side windows)

    Metallic paint 450
    Bi-Xenon w/auto level control 500
    (Requires the climate pkg)
    DVD Nav System 1,895
    17" Neptune alloys 500
    Premium sound 750
    (Dolby Pro Logic II, 6-CD in dash, requires the premium pkg)
    Rear headphone controls 100
    (Requires premium pkg)
    Integrated child booster 150
    Reverse warning system 400
    Cargo net 300
    Subwoofer 300
    (not with versatility pkg)

    T6AWD Base price $39,975
    Destination charge 625

    (T6 includes leather, power moonroof, 6-CD in-dash CD changer, pwoer driver/passenger seats, auto-dimming mirror, memory mirrors, Homelink, 17" Neptune alloys)

    Premium pkg 1,300
    (18" Atlantis alloys, Premium sound system, power retractable rear view mirrors, wood steering wheel)

    All of the other pkgs and single option are the same as the 2.5T version.

    I expect to have overseas delivery pricing within the next few weeks, hopefully not later than early September. While I (and a half-dozen TDS customers of mine) can only keep our fingers crossed, I am hoping to still see the usual 8% or so savings off the MSRP, and at least a single travel voucher. As usual, I'll post updates when I get them.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    Any price on the Rear Entertainment System or is the RES the DVD Nav System?

    OUCH! $300 for a cargo net? Thanks for the price list.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    Does that mean there are no rear air vents for vehicles without the Versatility pkg?
  • Has anyone heard what kind gas mileage the XC90 will get? I'm curious if it is in the typical SUV 15 mpg range.
  • spfoteyspfotey Posts: 131
    surprised there isn't a comparison between these two euro vehicles. their pricing seems similar, although the Volvo is new and the ML is going towards its 6th year....

    hopefully, the xc will not have the same reliability issues as the ml's first year...
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    Perhaps there'll be an XC90 vs. ML comparison topic eventually.

    This is conjecture until more reviews of the XC90 comes out. But from my perspective, the XC90 is obviously the car-based SUV, while the ML is the true truck-based one. The XC90 may well provide the more comfortable ride and more car-like drive, while the ML has a low-range and can handle "medium" off-roading and is more ideally suited for towing.

    As far as safety goes, the XC90's roof structure looks to be very impressive and perhaps surpasses the ML's, which is certainly no slouch. The XC90's stability systems may be somewhat more advanced than the ML's, which are excellent. I believe the side curtains of the XC90's go all the way to the third row? I don't think the ML's do.

    The ML possesses the more complete 4WD system than the XC90's Haldex, so I think it'll more capably handle a few (just a few) more unique situations. The ML also has rear side airbags standard (thoracic, around the chest area) while Volvo does not offer this option (some folks are uncomfortable with rear side airbags when there are kids there, but MB has supposedly tested them and found them to be safe for kids so long as they're not sleeping right on top of them).

    I can't see first-year XC90 quality being any worse than first-year M-class quality. But I don't expect the XC90's first year to be stellar either. The M-class is still struggling to reach an "average" quality score in the eyes of Consumer Reports and JD Power, in the 2002 model year.

    If it's true that the 2.5T will offer bi-xenons as an option, then there's no issue there. You can get bi-xenons for all trims of the M-class.

    But I would think the two vehicles are fairly close in the safety area, where both manufacturers aspire to be market innovators. The Volvo adds some interesting touches the ML does not have (e.g. the slide-forward middle/2nd row seat, the night vision, audio options).

    In the U.S. the M-class has computer-scheduled maintenance free for the four-years, something Volvo does not yet offer. Both probably won't be cheap to repair after the warranty, one might want to consider an extended one from Volvo or MB.

    If I had to choose between the ML320 and the XC90 today, I'd have a tough choice. I like the XC90's probable more car-like manners and styling. I like the ML320's rear side airbags, though. If my priorities also favored some more capable towing and off-roading, I'd certainly lean toward the ML320.

    In 2004, there'll be a new (unibody) ML320 and I'm sure it'll match and probably exceed the Volvo. For now, both are good choices.
  • My understanding is all xc90's will have air vents on the second row b pillar and c pillar only on Versatility pkg's
  • I think the air vents on the B pillar are standard. Poke around here under "interior" and it appears that only the third row is optional. http://vcc.volvocars.se/index.asp?mainurl=/pp/xc90/ . Also, the vesatility package implies that it only adds third row ventilation.
  • Having a 2000 Moondust S80 T6, I hate the black plastic body side and bumper moldings. IMHO, the 2003 body color moldings look much better. With that in mind, I need to pick my XC-90 color at the dealer next Monday night. So... from the pictures we've all seen, what do you guys think about Ash Gold metallic (446) vs. Crystal Green metallic (456) *or* do I go with the Black Sapphire metallic (452) and "hide" the black body-side moldings altogether? I'm leaning towards the black after going through the websites that allow you to change colors, but am just wondering what other people think. Thanks for your input.
  • kullenbergkullenberg Posts: 283
    I don't care for the dark plastic moldings either. Any of the 3 or 4 darker colors would tend to minimize the effect of the moldings. The other alternative is to order the decor option, which actually adds more molding, but in body color. This can be seen at http://www.volvoxc90.vcc.volvocars.se/main.asp which is the Swedish Volvo site. There you can call up a 3D picture and add options and change color. All that being said, I think I will order mine in the silver green. Since I won't order until spring of 04, perhaps they will have come round to body color moldings by then.

    Cheers

    Pat
  • luvsuvluvsuv Posts: 31
    For those who have seen or familiar with the XC 90, could you tell us if the 3rd row seat is spacious enough for the average adults?
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    I have not seen the XC90 first-hand but I have seen a video on http://www.volvoxc90.com/xc90/movie.asp that describes the 3rd row seats. The video indicates that youngsters or adults who are no more than 160cm or 5'3" in height can sit comfortably in the 3rd row. Hope that helps. BTW, I strongly recommend viewing the videos as it also shows other features that the XC90 has.
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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 33,357
    will they fly me out from NJ?

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  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    What, you want airfare and lunch too? (if airfare were included, Tidester and I would be at the front of the line :-)

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