I picked up my Camry Hybrid about 2 weeks ago at Fitzmall. They have a bunch in-stock and are going for $0 to $200 over invoice. Traveled from Texas to get the deal. It was well-worthwile for the price difference from the Gulf States prices here.
Salesman picked me up at the airport. No "change in the deal" once I got there. I was in the dealership and drivin' my way back to Texas in about 90 Minutes.
Go to www.fitzmall.com . All of their cars are posted there, along with Invoice and their price. They are a "no-haggle" dealer. What you see on the web is their price. However, their prices seem to go up and down frequently based on supply/demand.
I got mine at a price similar to what you see listed. I belive it was $157 over invoice. Since then, they went up about $2000 and have then come back down. If you don't see what you want or the price is high at the time, check back in a few days.
I belive that most dealers get a new allocation of vehicles every 2 weeks or-so.
Bought my Hybrid from Fitz Mall last year-Oct- and had the same experience. Handled the initial details on line- wanted a specific color and had to wait about one month for that. But cost was at least $1500 less than anything in North Carolina. When the car arrived at Fitz I made plane reservations and flew up to Washington National airport took the redline metro out to Maryland and a taxi from the end of the line to Fitz Mall. They even paid for the taxi. Picked it up on a Sat- a very busy day but no hassles- standard stuff they asked if I wanted extra or guarantee, etc. when declined then concluded paperwork. They even handled the paperwork to get me permanent plates in North Carolina. Left in a couple of hours and drove back to North Carolina. Well worth the trip. Great folks to do business with. Note when I looked up cost of flights to Washington I found that it would cost about $250 for a single one-way if I got off in Washington but if I went on to Boston by way of New York then it would would only cost about $125 . It would be the same flight from Raleigh to Wash. So I made that reservation for the longer flight to Boston with stops in Washington and New York and when we arrived in Wash. and had to change planes for the next leg I just walked out of the terminal and caught the subway. If you are any where near the East Coast I doubt you would find a better deal than Fitzgerald Mall in Maryland.
I got a price quote of $22,516 plus TT from a Philadelphia area Toyota dealer for a 2009 Camry SE with Bluetooth, Stability, JBL system, moonroof package. Is this a fair deal on this model? What bargaining room do I have?
I just purchased a 2009 certified used carmy le with 18,100 miles for $17,350 minus $3,000 for trade in of a 1999 camry ce with 109,000 miles broken mirror, hail damage, exhaust leak, dent on side of car, damaged front bumper, and windows that roll down but not back up. So the total was $14,350 before tax title. Was this a good deal? The list price was $19,959 but im sure that doesnt mean anything. Can anybody tell me if I got a good deal? Thanks
No...not really. Brand new '09 Camry LE can be easily had for 18.5K and you've got a used Camry with 18100 miles for about 1K less. Not a good deal in my book.
Thats disappointing. Oh well, this was my first car purchase, I will try to do better next time. My reason for going with that toyota dealership is that they were giving me $3000 for my trade in. the second closest offer I received was $1600. I mean the car was really in horrible shape. So you are saying I should have bought a brand new camry from that same dealership? I guess I need to do more research on how to talk these guys down.
You may not be stuck. See if your state has a 3 day right of rescission law which applies to vehicle purchases. If they do then you legally have until Tuesday, December 9th to take your car back and get a new one with no penalty. The reason they allowed you so much on your trade was because they had the certified car marked WAY too high. The NC dealers are selling the low mileage 2009 certified LE Camry cars at $16900. I was thinking every state had the 3 day right of rescission but I could be wrong. Definitely check on it. The other person was correct that you should be able to get a new LE Camry for $18500 plus fees. Hope this helps.
I am looking in the Northeast for a fairly basic LE with automatic. One dealer has offered the car before tax, title etc. for an amount that's pretty much at the Edmund invoice price, which happens to be $1000 less than the Edmund TMV since the $1000 rebate is no longer shown.
I'm not too familiar with Toyota historical prices. Given the glut of cars on the market today, is the Edmund invoice price a fair price? I'd like to get the car soon, but don't want to overpay.
Finally!!! New 2009 Camry CE auto for $15,988 and Camry LE auto for $16,988 at Hooman Toyota of Long Beach, California plus free hamburgers, hot dogs, and drinks for lunch. Only 1 at this price each every Saturday, so camp out.
Ok final question. I am asking this question to all who would respond. Would you purchase a 2009 used certified carmy le 4 cylinder for $14,350 with 18,100 miles or a 2008 used non certified carmy V6 for $13,200 with 28,000 miles. These were the two offers I had to choose between. Thanks
PS- if neither is a good deal you can say that aswell.. The price of the 2009 before my trade in was 17,350. The price of the 2008 was 14,800
PSS- What would you say the value of getting a certified used toyota is over a non certified toyota
I am trying to buy a Camry LE automatic. I gave the dealer Edmunds invoice + 300. Then the dealer told me that the real invoice price is 700 higher than the one in Edmunds. The dealer is the only one who can see the real invoice price of the car. All the information at Edmunds or kbb is incomplete. He is trying to give a price for Edmunds invoice + 700 + 600 (his profit) for the car. He said that the Toyota just increased the cost of manufacture a few months ago. Did he lie to me? I am in TN. Thanks.
Based on what some NC dealers are quoting me you should be able to buy a 2009 4 door LE Camry (automatic transmission) for $18500 plus tax and tags (no doc fees). A dealer e-mailed me today to see if that would earn my business. I should be able to get out the door for $19100 (our car taxes are 3% in NC). Dealers will definitely waive doc fees, but you have to push like crazy to get them to do it. I'm getting close to pulling the trigger. The $1500 rebate is in effect until January 5th I believe.
goheels2: You say the $1500 rebate is in effect until Jan. 5. Edmunds does not currently show any rebate or incentive for Toyota. Can you provide a link that shows the $1500 rebate? Thanks.
TNToyota: I'm not sure if the dealer is upfront with you about showing the invoice but I do know that between July and now the MSRP for a Camry LE with automatic did go up about $300 - I bought one back then and kept the Edmunds price estimate. However, despite this increase, the Edmunds TMV has gone down a little over the same time.
As I mentioned in my other posting, I have an offer that is basically at Edmunds invoice price. I think I can do better and am trying to get more information.
One thing to add and need to warn you readers (a new dealer trick I found). Not only that the ad price Camrys are the oldest batch, many test-driven miles, and overstocked color on the lot, but the dealer gives the ad price Camry to the buyer with the poorest fit and finish quality available at their lot, making your risk if your Camry is a lemon much higher. :lemon: You will need to be alert in finding flaws in workmanship quality if the price is too good to be true, especially the Indiana-made ones (they are the worst I have seen). Went to Power Toyota to look at their last ad price black Camry, assembled in Indiana, while waiting for an oil change for my rare, Japanese-made 2009 Camry, and this is what I saw: 1. Driver's door is very hard to close completely, 2. Driver's side A/C ventilation slot does not lock at all (defective) while adjusting and ends up rolling around and landed on the top, 3. Center console cover does not seal completely and will make a lot of rattle noise, 4. Looking inside the hood, some idiot at the factory marked the engine with a white chalk as a V4 as opposed to a I4 (he should be fired), 5. One of the interior plastic trim fits is left with more than 1/2 inch gap off. 6. I found one loose screw on the dashboard underneath the driver's pedal. With all these flaws and the final inspectors failed to notice these embarrassing easy-to-spot flaws, chances are there will be more problems ending this vehicle a lemon in the end. :lemon: Good luck with the buyer who drives this car home who has no ability to spot flaws in workmanship.
Thanks. That's interesting - if I put in my zip code (near Philadelphia) Edmunds says there are no Camry cash rebates or special financing or lease terms at this time. The ad that's to my right as I am writing this (Toyotathon of Toyotathons) asks for my zip code and the page it takes me to shows a lease incentive for the Camry but no cash rebate.
I believe the only Toyota dealers who are doing the $1500 rebate right now are the ones on the East Coast who get their vehicles from Southeast Toyota (a big distributor for Toyota Inc.)
Yeah, I don't see any rebates for my Pittsburgh zip code or the NJ zip at buytoyota dot com. But the Edmunds' site shows a 1300 cash incentive to the deal for Pittsburgh I don't know how an incentive works.
There is an ad in the Sunday Paper for the deal KennyRoss 19,099 for a LE. The find print it says that includes active military discount of $400. It's no clear if it includes the destination. They say they also want an addition 100 fee for doing the paper work.
believe the only Toyota dealers who are doing the $1500 rebate right now are the ones on the East Coast who get their vehicles from Southeast Toyota (a big distributor for Toyota Inc.)
No, parts of the Midwest have the $1,500 rebate also. Easiest way to check is Toyota.com, and enter zip code.
When Edmunds has "Incentives Available" at the bottom of its pricing information, does that mean that the incentive is additional to the TMV shown, or does the TMV already include it?
When there is a cash rebate, Edmunds shows the TMV, then, for example, "- $1000" below it, then the reduced price that includes the cash rebate. With a dealer incentive, it just states that the incentive is available, but it's not clear if the TMV is including that already.
Thank you for taking the time to tell this experience. You have brought benefit to me in many ways here, one of which was to learn what TMF means on a Toyota invoice (Toyota Marketing Fee)!
PLEASE send a copy of your posted letter to the Attorney General of the state of Texas. I have just sent a report about Toyota of Plano (TX) and hope it will do some good. Texas has heavily regulated the real estate business. They need to do the same thing with the car dealerships because these seem to feel free to do to you and others the very experience you describe herein. It has to stop! But it won't unless we speak loud and clear to the powers that be. Maybe when the time comes that your Camry needs replacing, the Deceptive Trade Practices statutes will be tougher on these dealerships. Here's the address as it appears online:
Office of the Attorney General Consumer Protection Division PO Box 12548 Austin, TX 78711-2548
There's really no line because only one (or two) person can get this deal. The ad is always posted on Long Beach's Press Telegram every Saturday, so try to buy one before 7:00 AM, and then arrive at the dealership before 8:00 AM, before their 9:00 AM opening time. There's always something surprising every week at Hooman Toyota.
I want to buy a New 2009 Toyota Camry LE, 4 cylinder, Automatic Transmission, Base. The best quote I got from the local dealers is $18,280 (after rebate and discount) + TTL + fees. The OTD price is about $20120. I live in Silicon Valley, our local tax is 8.25%. Is that a good deal? I want to negotionate to $19100 OTD, below Edmund's invoice price: $19,376. Is it reasonable? Will the dealer be pissed off?
Are you not including the destination charge ($720) in your Edmund's invoice price? For curiosity, I ran the Pricing Report for Cupertino (since you said Silicon Valley) and the invoice price is shown as $20,096, $720 above your invoice amount.
Edmunds TMV is $19,633 and you are being offered $18,280, or $1353 under TMV. If TMV has any meaning as an average price, then doesn't that mean you are getting a good deal?
19100 otd is a excellent price...the best pricing I've gotten was 21.5k otd from bay area dealers. Did you opt in for the $1500 cash rebate or 0% financing to get quoted the 19100 otd price? Thanks.
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Salesman picked me up at the airport. No "change in the deal" once I got there. I was in the dealership and drivin' my way back to Texas in about 90 Minutes.
Great Service!!!
I got mine at a price similar to what you see listed. I belive it was $157 over invoice. Since then, they went up about $2000 and have then come back down. If you don't see what you want or the price is high at the time, check back in a few days.
I belive that most dealers get a new allocation of vehicles every 2 weeks or-so.
Ray
I'm not too familiar with Toyota historical prices. Given the glut of cars on the market today, is the Edmund invoice price a fair price? I'd like to get the car soon, but don't want to overpay.
Thanks.
PS- if neither is a good deal you can say that aswell.. The price of the 2009 before my trade in was 17,350. The price of the 2008 was 14,800
PSS- What would you say the value of getting a certified used toyota is over a non certified toyota
As I mentioned in my other posting, I have an offer that is basically at Edmunds invoice price. I think I can do better and am trying to get more information.
Which dealers in NC have you gotten the 19100 OTD price?
They told me they would lose money if they sold the car at Edmunds invoice price.
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/toyota/camry/100975558/incentives.html?vdp=off&t- - - id=.n.incentives.incentives.4.3.Toyota*&setzip=85001
Very confusing.
There is an ad in the Sunday Paper for the deal KennyRoss 19,099 for a LE. The find print it says that includes active military discount of $400. It's no clear if it includes the destination. They say they also want an addition 100 fee for doing the paper work.
No, parts of the Midwest have the $1,500 rebate also. Easiest way to check is Toyota.com, and enter zip code.
after all rebates and discounts 17610
only options besides standard LE stuff are mats
Good deal?
after all rebates and discounts 17610
only options besides standard LE stuff are mats
Good deal?
Oh crap nm this is for a CE rats!
When there is a cash rebate, Edmunds shows the TMV, then, for example, "- $1000" below it, then the reduced price that includes the cash rebate. With a dealer incentive, it just states that the incentive is available, but it's not clear if the TMV is including that already.
Thanks.
Customer cash rebates are not reflected in TMV..
Lower selling prices via dealer incentives are reflected in TMV..
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PLEASE send a copy of your posted letter to the Attorney General of the state of Texas. I have just sent a report about Toyota of Plano (TX) and hope it will do some good. Texas has heavily regulated the real estate business. They need to do the same thing with the car dealerships because these seem to feel free to do to you and others the very experience you describe herein. It has to stop! But it won't unless we speak loud and clear to the powers that be. Maybe when the time comes that your Camry needs replacing, the Deceptive Trade Practices statutes will be tougher on these dealerships. Here's the address as it appears online:
Office of the Attorney General
Consumer Protection Division
PO Box 12548
Austin, TX 78711-2548
Edmunds TMV is $19,633 and you are being offered $18,280, or $1353 under TMV. If TMV has any meaning as an average price, then doesn't that mean you are getting a good deal?
Just trying to understand how these things work.