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I know of no known issues vrs the two. I think it's more of an attitude issue with American vrs Japanese quality. With that being said, I am happy that my Hybrid was produced in Japan. Had it been an American model I probably would have waited a year to make sure the bugs were out of the assembly process. Even that comment is an attitude and probably not documentable from others experiences.
I took a chance with a first year model becaue I wanted the tax breaks. Even with foreign products you can get burnt. I did with my 2003 350Z
Included:
VSC
Stripe
Spoiler
L2 Leather Upgrade (Liquicell,etc)
Carpet Mat Set
Wheel Locks
PermaVin
This was the lowest price from 5 different dealers.
What's everyones opinion on price?
dealer base model: $17970
destination: $620
accessory+ mats: $***
dealer holdback: $***
wholesale finance reserve : $***
Gasoline : $****
I only want to pay for the base model. So I like to pay $17970+$destination+tax+document registration fee.
My rough estimate is the OTD would be around $20400.
What you guys think? Do I have more room for bargaining down the price? Another question should the destination fee added after or before tax?
Thanks!
Also even thought we are told that transmission is build in Japan for all Camry’s, it is stated in Toyota website that for the Northern Camry’s transmission build in US.
For me does not matter where car was build, what is important for me that after spending $25 I would not be disappointed in a car. I do understand that it is still gamble but at least I know that I have done as much as I could to avoid problems. :lemon:
Are any of the ICE only Camry's being built in Japan? All the Hybrids until the last week or so were Japanese built but they don't have "normal" transmissions like the rest of the Camry model line. That can't be isolated to a problem with Japanese vrs American assembly issue.
I did once have a problem with my Sequoia (American built if I remember right) but have had no issues with my 4Runner, TCH or Scion Tc (all Japanese built). Perhaps though that's just luck of the draw. My Sequoia was also a first year model.
New factories with automation really should not matter what nationality of ground they are built on. However it's pretty well known that American workers have in the past not been as quality minded as their Japanese counterparts.
I'm negotiating mine in Memphis,TN(Camry Le 4cyl with moonroof package)
The least invoice i have seen is 19,685 (something like that).
I have been to performance toyota and he initially told me the price would 22,899(inclusive of all taxes).
Today he told me i can take the available color(Silver) for 22,000. But I wanted Magnetic Gray exterior so i didn't go for it.
Leather seats
Sunroof package
rear spoiler
JBL sound system
VSC
What do you guys think I should do? Wait until Toyota recognizes the problem with the transmission or try to get a very good deal? Any of you experience any engine issues?
That's because it's showing full sticker as the true value. If it showed a large discount he'd never mention it. Edmunds "True Value" is not always applicable. For every 2 dealers wanting MSRP there is one out there discounting and that does not always show up in their averages.
Anyone who pays MSRP on a car that will get heavy discounts in a year (after the flush of people wanting the newest thing) will get stuck with a car that depreciates much more than if they wait or if they go ahead and shop around for a deal.
I'd never pay MSRP for anything other than the hybrid and that's only to meet the tax credit deadlines.
The "regular" Camry plans to sell about 400,000 vehicles. That's not a limited quantity and it will be if not already discounted heavily. Go out of state if you have to, check out a mid sized town where competition between brands is more important for their survival.
Dealer Invoice for base car is $22603 (which includes shipping of $620). Leather (the L2 Upgrade not the LA) is $1100. VSC is $520. Mats are $126. Wheel Locks are $37. Etching of VIN is $52. Stripes are $59. Gold Package is about $250. So total Invoice (and I know there are holdbacks, whatever) comes to $24,747. I went to five different dealers. He was the lowest. So, the question is, and I understand if you don't like the price you can walk away, but if I wanted the Camry I ended up giving him about 4% over Invoice, and way under Edmunds TMV, though I think their TMV does a disservice to site users.
What do you think would have been a fair price? And, more importantly, do you think you could have gotten it?
You paid about $500 over dealer invoice (including TDA). Five dealers is about 1/3-1/2 of the number of dealers that I would survey.
The L2 Package is about $300 more than the Toyota Leather Package (LA) so that is another $300 wasted.
I paid $300 over dealer invoice ('07 XLE I4) the week the '07 Camrys came out about 8 months ago.
If I bought one now it would not be more than $150 over dealer invoice. They are a high volume commodity at this point.
I would never buy in the SE Toyota administration area. Even your Gulf States area (with VIN etching, stripes, other useless, high dealer margin packages) is not as bad as the SE additional charges.
You could have paid more if you paid attention to the TMV price.
I worked too hard for my money than to throw it away uselessly.
Does anyone have any thoughts on purchasing the extended service warranty? I am quoted 7 yrs or 75000 mi for about $1500. It overlaps the regular warranty.
Thanks
Does anyone have any thoughts on purchasing the extended service warranty for the hybrid? I am quoted 7 yrs or 75000 mi for about $1500. It overlaps the regular warranty.
Thanks
That Platinum warranty should be about $600 at other dealers.
The 7 year/100,000 mile/$0 deductible is $880 (what I paid 6 months ago). On another forum someone claims to have got it for $750.
Use the internet to shop around and the other Toyota forums (use their search engine, don't go in like you did here as a typical noobie). You can find the answer here on Edmunds by using the search function.
Also, does anybody know if I can upgrade the car to vehicle stability control?
Also, can anybody recommend seat covers that are not going to block air bags?
Thanks,
--Michael
Both are being purchased by posters but they are not the same
Hi,
Does anyone have any thoughts on purchasing the extended service warranty? I am quoted 7 yrs or 75000 mi for about $1500. It overlaps the regular warranty.
OK, but I thought the original question started out by brianz2 about a service warranty. If it's a "service" warranty, $1500 is about what you would have in the cummulative service and I believe why pay up front unless there is a big discount. As far as an extended b2b warranty, $1500 is WAY too high, especially for a 75,000 mile warranty
But since I am a new for the all factory order experience, what is a typical procedure? Does dealership suppose to have order # and estimate production date when they are ordering it?
I am in kind of pinched situation right now- my current car broke down and no one can figure out what is a problem with it so I do need a new car ASAP. On the same talking I do not want to overstep it with the dealership and nag them too much.
Any feedback and experience would be appreciated.
As for checking on them, they should be able to give you an order form showing what you bought and the agreed pricing.
They can check the status since "build date" is not the only trackable milestone.
I'm guessing they would consider it a pain if you keep calling, so just ask when you get info from them what is the next milestone and how long does that usually take. If they tell you three weeks before they know anything then calling every week would indeed make you a pain to deal with.
I can't imagine you getting one "built to order" in less than 2 months. Although they could possibly find one like your order or close and "trade" with another dealer.
I'm not sure where you're at but I just dropped off my TCH for service and Buckhannon Auto mall in WV had about 7 or 8 Camry's on the lot (including a TCH)
You have described exactly what I do not want to do- call them every week and upset them.
As for the trade with another dealership, I would not mind but I do not want them try to get my car from another dealership for 2-3 month and only then put a factory order. This is exactly what I am trying to avoid.
I am in NY, NJ area. I ordered just V6 Le without any extras but I have ordered it from the Japan. The dealer that I have dealt with had about 6 in the lot as well ( 2 from them were LE’s but they all were from the Kentucky plant).
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/auto_warranty/gold.html
Interesting, I didn't realize you had an option. Then again I didn't realize any Camry's other than the Hybrid came from Japan.
I would not let them "look" for a car from other dealers for more than a day or so. I'd simply ask them to check and see if there is one available. They can do that in a couple of hours. If they are as hot as it seems in some areas they are not getting stuck with something they can't easily get rid of or trade off to another dealer.
They stop Camry’s production in Japan this December or January of next year. Most of the time I have seen XLE with lots of extra packages build in Japan.
2 of 6 dealers that I have been contacted refused to make a Camry order from Japan. From the rest of them this one was the most honest and cooperative one (even thought I would probably could get it $200-300 cheaper from the other dealership).
If they can "dealer trade" for a car similar to what you want they may do so. It could be for a car on someone's lot, or for a car scheduled to arrive at another dealership.
Your request for a Japanese made vehicle is not realistic (based on many discussions w/ the GM at my dealership - who proved to be right on with everything he offerred and promised). By the way, our KY built loaded V6SE has been flawless for the first 5k miles.
The car is supposed to be built next week and delivered the following week. I will let you know how it turns out.