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-mike
The havasu blue didn't appeal to me. With the clouds it looked like silvery green to my eyes.
All the units had been prepped and one LX had been tarted up already with alloys and an Xterra style roof rack. No stickers on any of them. There were 2 SS, 2 HB, 1 TW, 1 Black there.
Ditto what Paisan wrote about the bra. Unless you are religious about cleaning the car, they're more trouble than they're worth.
Robr2 - They must have shipped some of them already. When I was there, they had two black, two red, and two white (plus the silver and blue).
I believe RES is a single ceiling mounted LED display for second and third rows, and appears standardized among Ody, MDX and Pilot. Likely about 9" diagonal measure; standard size lately.
I plan to get a Gamecube led display for my two kids' Gamecube console for their entertainment.
Anyone have thoughts on the trailer package? I'm assuming a 2" and not 1 1/4". I have a Yakima bike rack that goes into the hitch at the rear and need a 2" opening.
I give my kids books to read to keep them busy...
Actually I wonder what the after market DVD players will cost. I thought about ordering one but I guess I couldn't rationalize the fact that there are enough things to keep my kids busy in the car without stuffing them in front of a TV again.
Of course when I get a call from my dealer to tell me that my EX-L inexplicably came in with the RES then I'll probably take a hard look at it. If it comes in as ordered (w/o RES) I won't even think twice about it.
Speaking of my dealer, I received a call from her yesterday stating that she's going to some place for a test drive of the Pilot on Thursday and hopefully would be able to answer all my questions. I suspect she's going to Varmint's stash of Pilots as my dealership is in Southern NH. The fact that I read this board everyday means that I doubt she will be able to enlighten me at all though I still haven't gotten a good answer on the heated seats or CD changer. I'm sure she won't be able to tell me the exact price.
I also invested in a radio-shack Power Inverter which allows me to run the laptop for unlimited time in the car.
-mike
I must be the same show your dealer is talking about.
Skiparty - I'll don my Super Spy disguise and see if I can crash the Bayside Expo. Shhhh....
My nine year old son has read all four Harry Potter books, and just a couple of weeks ago for the fourth time. This is while also starting on wife's 5,000 volume sci-fi collection. My four year old daughter is just starting. Unless it's Pokemon code books, he gets urpy reading while riding.
I guess that I could buy a DVD capable notebook for the same price now. Or I could buy a DVD player with LCD for $700, so that option does not look too necessary. If I get one, it will be EX with cloth, tow hitch and ski racks.
For $100, you can buy a playstation 1 with LCD, and that will take care of most of your problems.
Where are you located?
How come some of you can order the car, know the build and delivery day,
while in San Francisco bayarea, dealers don't even accept waiting list?
I'm jealous now :-(
I also can't understand why more companies havn't latched on to Nissan/Infinity technology. You can get a Sunroof, DVD, and Navi all in the same vehicle.
Come on Honda, let's get with the program.
Witholding a sunroof and fog lights is not going to make someone pay 6-7 grand more for an MDX. What it will do is send your customers over to the Toyota, Ford, Nissan, or GMC dealerships.
- Disappointed!
With the sunroof issue it is possible that it is a safety issue (strength of passenger cage) with regards to a sunroof. Pilot shape is different than MDX. I know that Ford significantly redesigned the 2002 Explorer/Mountaineer half-way through 2002 model year (without telling customers) due to body cage safety concerns. It is possible that with all the recent SUV safety publicity, Honda is being conservative here due to the quick release of the product. It is possible that more testing needs to be done before they can approve the risk of an "opening" in the passenger cage. For Just my thoughts.
For the fog lights... since headlamps have improved substantially in the past few years, I find that I no longer need or use my fog lights. Fog light requirement for "looking cool" is not something I can relate to, sorry.
Status of heated seats and side mirror defrosting... now we are getting somewhere. What about XM radio... very cool toy.
The moonroof is weird cause the MDX has one and it's the same vehicle. But the ones in most SUVs nowdays is tiny, nothing more than a vent-hole rather than a decent sized moonroof.
-mike
-mike
-mike
I guess if I want my first Honda I better get it now before it becomes standard equipment in a year or two.
Original post was deleted due to improper language usage. Thought I would re-post, because the sunroof issue is real, in some cars you cannot buy one without it. Anyway.
Another oversight that doesn't seem to bother anyone is the lack of a useable rear window. Or at least it appears to be fixed anyway. I find them very handy and can't imagine an SUV without one. Especially if you have to use an SUV to do pickup-type duties.
But hey, Honda can strip it and sell every single one anyway, this gives them some thing to add in '03, '04 I guess.
Just curious about some modifications that I might want to add after purchase. One thing for sure that I want to add is a rear view mirror with built-in compass and outside temperature display. That was really useful in my F-150.
Any other future modifications on the minds of anyone else on this forum?
I am wondering about trading my tires for some with raised white letters. Any comments from others on how the Silver Pilot EX would look with raised white letter tires?
By the way, I have to say I love the Pathfinder!
All this being said, I remain a Honda fan; my daughter is about to buy a new CRV, a move I fully support for her.
Installation of power-steering fluid and automatic-tranmission-fluid cooler, both available exclusively from your Honda dealer
Sounds expensive.
I am debating between white or silver. Has anyone seen the white? If so how does it look compared to the silver? The other option I am getting if it is not included on the EX is the 6 disc in dash changer. I talked to a dealer in Northern VA and he is going to drive one on the 14th of May and is going to call me about it after the drive.
Thanks to all for all the great info.
Fog lights? I've driven cars with and without them. There's very little difference. Honda is offering OEM units as a dealer installed (or DIY) option. I'd rather not be forced to pay for them as part of the EX package.
Joepugs - I've seen both the white and silver. The white was a more pale color, while the silver was more "metallic" and reflective. What were you expecting?
I like silver because it does not look as dirty when it is dirty, but the white looks nice when it is clean. I wanted to know if the colors change the look of the pilot. The silver makes the rims and the trim look good but the white may look better or worse. That is just one example.
Joe
I'm not saying they need to make them mandatory on the EX, but geesh, give us an option man!
The towing package on the Odyssey runs around $700, according to my dealer. On the MDX, it runs a little more, around $900. Both packages include the transmission fluid and power steering fluid coolers. I expect the Pilot package will be in this range.
As pointed out in an earlier post, fog lights are an "accessory." Not an option, since Honda typically bundles standard equipment in varying trim packages.
No doubt some dealers will overcharge for the fogs, but OEM ones will be available. Thus you're not paying for it unless you want it. You have the option to buy the fog light accessory and install it yourself or pay the dealer to do it.
-mike
It still might be worth it for Honda to add a moonroof, but I suspect it will only be as part of a trim level or package. Maybe they could take the EX-L, add a moonroof, heated/pwr seats, and a few bit of trim and call it the SE.
Personally, I would like a moonroof, but it's not a deal breaker.
White vs silver: The white looked good in EX trim, but I wasn't fond of it with the LX's black cladding. The Silver looks better as an LX. Of course, I wasn't fond of any of the LX's regardless of color...
Honda has a great habit of packaging together a lot of the options people want in their various trim levels. This eliminates the hassle of having to pick and choose through a laundry-list of options and "preferred option packages", as you must do with Toyota and most other makes.
For Honda to justify the cost of adding a moonroof in one of the trim levels, they would have to be convinced that the majority of buyers would "have to have it", and thus be willing to pay for that added cost. They obviously feel that the demand is not there right now.
I agree with Varmint's prediction: you will probably see a moonroof on an "SE" version of the Pilot in a couple of years. Until then, if you "have to have it", it looks like aftermarket is your best bet.
Whats the difference? boat vs camper?
Sorry if I missed an earlier post.
-jay
-mike
-mike
The belief is that this is "Sagebrush" that is going to be available in August...
if it looks anything like the picture, I will probably hold out for it. (and it gives me a couple months to here the good and bad from people that will by them earlier)
I just ordered a silver EX, but am wondering if white might look better when I actually see them side by side. I had a hard time deciding between the two colors.
With the EX model, the color is purely a matter of personal taste. Both the silver and white looked nice. I'm typically not a fan of red, but even that looked pretty good.