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I agree.
Dindak, please don't compare the Malibu and Accord, they aren't even in the same league. How many Accord buyers do you think even considered a Malibu? My guess: 0.
Saw a (still rare for these parts) Ion in the mall parking lot today, dark red with gray roof rail inserts. Ugh.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I do not believe dindak was comparing the current Malibu to the new 2003 Accord... As dindaks statement pasted below implies, the all new 2004 Malibu is a more serious competitor for the latest edition of the Accord.. and being that the Malibu will most likely sell for a couple thousand less it may very well make a few converts. Personally, I wouldn't buy any american car besides a Saturn.
"""With the prices of Accord climbing higher each year, don't be surprised to see the 04 Malibu steal some buyers looking for a solid car at a lower price.""" "
That said, I'm referring mostly to the 04 Malibu, not the current model.
"Spring 2003" was about as specific as the brochure got in terms of QC availability, though. And there was no indication of how its MSRP will compare to that of the sedan.
Back to the ION.....................
The BOLD print giveth and the FINE print taketh away!
One at this price
5000 due at signing
60 months at 12K a year with a 700+ FICO required
Remember folks if its sounds too good to be true (Say it with me now) it probably is!
I remember trying to buy a car once and the only thing they talked about was the monthly. I walked out after about 5 minutes of that nonsense.
Took the Ion to a friends house on the weekend. He had not seen an Ion before so he took it for a spin and liked it a lot. He said he wasn't crazy about the center IP but he could live with that. He liked the ride over all though.
Some Toyota and Honda dealers over here are starting to go that route as a starting point for negotiation. It is especially helpful for people like me who always buy a car off the lot.
My wife and I saw a black Ion the other day around town. My wife loved it except for the charcoal texture roof rails. She did not like it the first time we saw it at the dealer. It must be growing on her too!
Uga91-- I wasn't being nasty, I just didn't care for the material in the 2 model, and I too like my alloy wheels. No need for sarcasm.
the civic leases avialable lately are like 1200 down and 139 a month.
not 5000 down in fine print. get off your horse, it just got shot. Honda can offer deals like that occasionally because the Hondas hold their value.
They tried to combine the Saturn experience with the existing system which did not always work for customers. Transaction prices were generally higher and some dealers allegedly told customers they were not allowed to negotiate.
Even without this Toyota has been working hard to improve the buying experience overall through nicer show rooms, better training of sales staff etc. We have had Toyota's in our family since the 1980s and I notice the improvement, although its not quite Saturn yet.
dunworth : Local Toyota and Chevrolet dealers is not great. Sales guys at both are all the old school types. I bought my Alero 30 kms down the highway in Etobicoke. Saturn dealer here is excellent though.
How did the car biz ever get to be the way it is I'll never understand. A Saturn really is a pleasure buy in comparison.
I wish GM never traded for those engines though. They should put their own 3.6L in the Red Line VUE instead.
New fascias, yeah baby. get rid of the frumpy face.
It will have to duke it out with the Neon SRT.
Hope they don't overprice it.
Saturn has always been very good with product flexibility. I am sure there will be a delete option.
But a spoiler on a street car, however well executed and quick the street car may be, is more of a statement maker than a useful accessory.
I like driving, and I like driving fast within reason. But I am not a race car driver, make a point to follow only the Indy 500 and LeMans auto race, and otherwise do not pay much attention to racing.
It is really great to see fans of auto racing express themselves with spoilers and the like. But it is not for me.
So while I may be real interested in a RedLine ION Coupe, I want mine a tad less bold looking.
I think many people make a quick judgment of someone based on what they drive, often with out knowing it.
It goes with out saying that if you're out on the road and pull up next to a new Lexus LS 400 for example, it says intelligence, successful, powerful, $$$ etc.. For most of those that would be able to afford an LS400 through legal means would possess at least some of these qualities.
While you can't judge a book by its cover so to speak, it is done all the time.
SavanhaLady its to bad you needed to have some of your ION painted .Dealer body shops will never , never, never be able to prep and paint like a factory paint process or a shop that really cares :-( Flat rate put an end to quality work
I wonder if there will be a Red Line Ion sedan also?
According to this article the Red Line ION will get a larger steering wheel that will eventually be on all IONs. That is a good thing!