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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    Did you not understand the part where black tulip stated he did not want to identify the state?
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • 1racefan1racefan Member Posts: 932
    Didn't say it was the ONLY state - just pointed out that it was one.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    We don't want to be IDing real life folks on here. generic stories of road lunacy are quite sufficient! ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Today's winners include a dope who didn't understand "free right turn" (I had to flash, yell, and finally honk, as a dozen cars queued up behind us), a woman in a Caravan who tried to outdo me as I passed her when a road widened from one lane to two (she was going 10 under the limit before the road widened...but some fat family hauler can't beat me in 30-60), a dumb blonde in a Civic coupe who was tailgating me as I was going 7 over (I wonder if she noticed I was going the limit on the nose after she got on my tail - she was also on the phone), and a PT Cruiser with a continental kit that was just so hard on the eyes that I consider it to be inconsiderate.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    OK ok just generic stories.

    Well anyway it was just a generic saturday and I pulled the generic tank of of my generic grill to get more generic gas. Well I filled it up at the generic hardware store and secured the generic tank in the back of my generic station wagon. Well wouldn't you know it as I am driving down the generic 4 lane road back to my generic house some generic idiot in a generic BMW SUV got so close that I couldn't see his generic front bumper. :mad:

    Since I didn't want to generic heaven this soon I just generically slowed down hoping he would merge into the other generic lane and pass. Nope this generic idiot just stayed on my generic rear end.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Too bad it was aBMW... would have been funnier if it was from Generic Motors!
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    You mean Geriatric Motors?
  • njdevil1njdevil1 Member Posts: 45
    are you talking about I-40 in North Carolina. we are near wilmington. the drivers down here do not know about directional signals and most of them are on cell phones. i guess they can not do to many things at once.we are originally from NJ where the devils lost to the hurricanes.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    "Nope this generic idiot just stayed on my generic rear end."

    What you fail to understand is that generic idiots never get the generic drift. :)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    My trip into work has this Y intersection where two lanes turn left at a light. I approach this intersection following a semi with a nice long low boy and we both go to make the left turn. The truck gets into the right left turn lane and I get into the left left turn lane. The truck starts to make the turn real slow and I, realizing the truck needed all the space he needed, stay behind the truck in the other lane.

    Wouldn't you know the guy behind me started honking his horn trying to get me to move faster. :mad:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Wave him around you so the idiot can be crushed by the low boy. ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I was tempted but figured the truck driver didn't need the hassle.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    ...and we both go to make the left turn.

    If both of you were side by side, there was no need for you to wait. If you had sped up a bit, you, and very possibly the guy behind you, would have reached your destinations before the semi had even completed his turn. I am not surprised that he was upset. You were holding him up.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    sorry if you read my story you would know that I was behind him when we went into the left turn lanes. If I would have speed up a bit I would be new car shopping tomorrow.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Have you ever wondered why long fire trailers have a guy steering at the rear?

    The low boy doesn't have such a rear driver so his trailer cuts into the adjacent lane.

    Snakeweasel did the right and safe thing.

    Superior drivers "drive" for the other vehicles while the average guy just thinks of only himself. ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    There was this one intersection that I used to go through that was a stop sign and the roads were two lane roads. The big main Post Office facility was on this corner and you had a lot of trucks trying to turn right at this intersection. Of course being trucks they had to make a wide turn and use both lanes of traffic which ment that many times they had to wait for either traffic to clear or for that occasional driver who stays stopped way behind the stop sign so the truck can make the turn.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,677
    If you want a smile from a trucker, when you see they're at a difficult place for them to turn, stop a ways back and wave your hand in the windshield so they see you're helping block for them.

    A number of truckers are pests on the interstate but about a third of them quickly change lanes for a well-used ramp at my local town's two enterances onto the interstate. The ramp is uphill and the interstate is going downhill which makes it hard to check the lane for traffic as you merge up the ramp. The hillside blocks your view until you're almost up and starting back down to merge. Truckers often clear that right lane for us; they seem to realize it's an awkward ramp unless you're double jointed.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    If you want a smile from a trucker.....

    I remember one time coming back from the Quad Cities on I-80 I was clipping along pretty well closing in on two truckers in the right lane. I had gotten into the left lane to pass well behind them when I saw the rear trucks left turn signal come on. No big deal I took my foot off the gas flashed my lights to let him know it was clear and passed him after he passed the other truck.

    My passenger told me the trucker looked down gave use a big smile and a wave as we passed him.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • whahappanwhahappan Member Posts: 69
    You're a better man than me. Or maybe the circumstances are different. I tend to speed up to get past the truck first, simply because countless times I've been stuck behind them for literally miles as they attempt to pass another truck uphill, 10-15 mph below the speed limit.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    well if memory serves I wasn't going that much faster then they were anyway. If i was doing 85 and they were doing 60 I would have blown past too, but I think the speed difference was less than 5 MPH.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    I tend to speed up to get past the truck first, simply because countless times I've been stuck behind them for literally miles as they attempt to pass another truck uphill, 10-15 mph below the speed limit.

    Exactly right. I have been stuck behind some peple who are simply afraid to speed up and pass the truck and consequently hold up traffic behind them. How inconsiderate! I see no difference between them and LLCs or those who would not speed up beyond 5 mph at the slightest hint of snow on the road.
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    If you want a smile from a trucker, ...

    No thanks. I would rather have a clear left lane from him, which is kind of difficult, if his buddy (in an equally humongous vehicle) is going at a differential of -1mph in the right lane.
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    If I would have speed up a bit I would be new car shopping tomorrow.

    That may not be such a bad idea if your vehicle could not even pass a truck at an intersection!
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    The low boy doesn't have such a rear driver so his trailer cuts into the adjacent lane.

    I have no tolerance for people who drive their vehicles illegally. The law states that all vehicles (unless marked "wide load" and accompanied by a pilot car) must remain within their lanes, and no exception is mentioned for a "low boy". The trucker is the one who needs to wait so as not to inconvenience anyone. I fail to see why I must modify my behavior to suit somebody who is driving illegally.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Today I saw a young woman in a white Saturn going about 40 on 405, she was text messaging and acting as a sort of pylon for other cars to dodge. It never ceases to amaze me.
  • smittynycsmittynyc Member Posts: 289
    I had the nearest miss of my highway driving life today.

    Time: about 4:00

    Weather: partly sunny, but slick surfaces following 2 hours of steady downpours

    Place: southbound Hutchinson River Parkway, just after the merge with I-684 and exit for I-287. Several bad traffic problems here: one, there's almost always a bottleneck, as the Hutch goes from 2 lanes, then 4 (incoming merge lanes from the interstates), then 3, then back to 2. On a Sunday afternoon, this will cause traffic to be stop-and-go for 1-2 miles.

    Furthermore, there's lots of dangerously pronounced speed differentials on this stretch of road: I-684 has, imo, far and away the fastest average traffic flow of any road in the New York City area. It's three lanes through sparsely populated areas of Westchester, and you can do 80 and be the pokiest car on the road. The southern terminus of 684 merges in with the Hutch via a modernized ramp that's very gradual and can be negotiated at high speeds. On the other hand, the interchange with 287 is cramped and tight and exits and entrances need to be conducted at slow speeds even in the absence of traffic.

    So you have a lot of people who've been driving at 90 for the last 25 minutes merging onto a 1930s-era parkway that's one of the few highways around that truly needs a 55 limit, and ugly stuff can happen -- there've been some spectacular wrecks over the years, and I've seen/heard dozens of cars lock up their brakes as they come up too quickly on stopped traffic.

    Today traffic was fairly light, and the slowdowns were happening right at the spot where 3 lanes go down to 2, roughly a half mile past the 287 interchange. The roads were soaked -- in fact, we'd gotten stuck in a 45-minute, 4-5 mile stop-and-go 15 miles back in Greenwich, CT, because an old Impreza wagon spun out and crashed into the woods, ending up with a giant tree in its backseat.

    I saw the brake lights at the chokepoint, and began to gradually slow down from 65, in the middle lane, all sorts of space in front of me. All of a sudden, I see something at the very limit of the peripheral vision in my right eye. The only thing I can process is that it's something car-sized and its motion is not the motion a car should be making at this point on the highway. Before I can turn my head and look, a half second later my wife says, "Oh my--" and then a Ford Explorer (late 90s) is sliding toward me, with its RIGHT REAR END approaching the front right passenger side of my car, its tires shrieking. This is while we're going 50-55 mph, mind you.

    I didn't have time to survey the left lane, but I knew from my last mirror check that there was an SUV back there who'd been gaining on us fairly quickly. But I didn't want to absorb a body check from the back end of an Explorer, either. So I pretty aggressively swerved to the left, and thankfully there wasn't anything there. The approaching SUV turned out to be a Toyota Highlander, and he either saw the Explorer go into its skid and gave us some space, or there was enough left-lane shoulder for him to work with despite my encroaching upon his lane.

    After what seemed like an eternity, but was probably only a second, we get around the Explorer and back into our lane. Once we were okay, I check the rear view and see the Explorer has abruptly whipped back through the middle and right-hand lanes, and is probably going 15-20 mpg--backwards, but in the direction of traffic--in the breakdown lane. She (my wife saw the driver) managed to stop a few seconds later, miraculously without a scratch as far as I could see. At that point, we were slowed to 5-10 mph, approaching the back of the bottleneck, and I got to keep my eye on what was happening with the Explorer. She sat in the breakdown lane for a couple seconds, then started up again, slowly going forward in the breakdown lane, but facing the wrong direction! And that was the last we saw of her.

    It was pretty scary. We were very fortunate that she didn't plow into us when I couldn't see her and couldn't do anything about it. I was very happy with how our car (an 04 Forester) felt during my lunge to the left -- it held the road nicely and did exactly what I told it to. On the other hand, I wasn't as prepared as I could have been -- I was driving with just my right hand on top of the wheel, left arm on the armrest, and while I wasn't actively distracted (just listening to news radio) or fatigued at all, I was driving with the attitude of someone who'd sat through one long jam and was about to enter another, a 45-minute trip turning into a 100-minute one . . . let's just say I wasn't bringing my A game at that point.

    I wish I knew what sent the Explorer into its skid. It could have locked up coming off 684; it could have hydroplaned; she could have had a blowout; she could have been avoiding another bad driver and gotten out of control that way. If it turns out she'd been going too fast for conditions, I hope she's learned her lesson. I sure learned a lesson about attentiveness.

    In the words of the late Michael Conrad -- let's be careful out there!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Ok let me try to enplain this to you, I will type slowly so you can understand. He was already moving when he got to the intersection, he was towing a long low boy, I was always behind him, by the time i was able to get into the other turn lane he was already into the intersection about to start his turn. The is no car made that could have gotten past him without being sideswiped by the low boy.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,677
    I'm not clear what is the problem people are having with the situation here and how to handle it.

    I learned long ago in physics that trucks are much bigger than my Mustang or leSabre. I get out of their way or stay out of their way. If he's trying to turn, I ain't gonna try to make him stay in his lane. If there's a police officer in the line and he wants to make the truck stay in his lane, more power to him.

    I watched a truck ooze out across 4 lanes of traffic to make a left turn out of a truck stop in 5 o'clock traffic in our city. He had no other choice but to make cars stop to let him across. Trucker won; but he did it carefully picking a better time to start out to make cars stop.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    I will type slowly so you can understand.

    No sarcasm,please. It does not work well. It does not help you get your point across.

    The is no car made that could have gotten past him without being sideswiped by the low boy.

    OK, if you say so. But I do question your judgment about that since the guy behind honked at you to go faster. Nobody could be that stupid.
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    I learned long ago in physics that trucks are much bigger than my Mustang or leSabre.

    You needed physics lessons to learn that? Interesting.

    I'm not clear what is the problem people are having with the situation here and how to handle it.

    There is no problem: it is just that I (and others) have a different opinion than you do. Is that very hard to accept? I did not say I would try to keep the trucker in his lane: what I am saying is that I would not go out of my way (stop at 10 feet behind a stop sign, for example) to accommodate a trucker. Nor do I crave for smiles and waves from a trucker! Comprendez?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Question it if you wish but anyone in any car would have tried to make that pass with the truck still making his would have been squashed.

    And yes people are that stupid this forum wouldn't exist if they weren't.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    On the way home I stopped at the post office. The parking lot was one of those with diagonal parking spaces. The parking lot was pretty empty one car in the first spot, me in the third and just one more car in the forth with about 8-10 empty spaces beyond that point.

    As I am coming out I notice this huge overheight van (commercial with plenty of bright advertising on it) so big and so visible passing all the parked cars and pulling into like the fifth or sixth spot. As he was pulling into the spot the car parked in the forth spot backs up just a bit the pulled forward along the parking spots in front of this huge van. The van slammed on their brakes and barely missed that car.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Too bad the big van didn't smack the car, maybe sending it on to its roof and sending the driver to physical therapy for a few months. Some people deserve a harsh wakeup call.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,677
    Ouch.

    Have a cup of coffee on my tab. We disagree. Movin' on.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    But on the way to work this AM i saw someone reading a book while driving. Yep in here right hand she was holding up a book in such a way as to read it. :confuse:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    A few random black_tulip quotes:

    You needed physics lessons to learn that? Interesting.

    No sarcasm,please. It does not work well. It does not help you get your point across.

    Nobody could be that stupid.


    Ok, maybe not so random, my bad :P
    james
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    And, your point is...?
  • chrisconchriscon Member Posts: 25
    I believe it. The other day I'm driving to work, and I see a guy reading the newspaper, while driving about 50mph. I was astounded. I honked my horn, he looked over at me like I had 3 heads. I made a motion as if reading the paper. And shook my head at him. Some people will just never learn.

    Oh and the women LLC's who are on their cell phones. Chatting away, pacing the car next to them. :mad:

    I hate my commute to work.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Trucker is to be honored & you will honor every trucker or be crushed as the loser. Your call.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Saw a Subaru Forester with these words in large letters on the liftgate: PLEASE BACK OFF.

    I'm sure it has little effect, just like those "Baby on Board" signs of a couple of decades back (and making a minor comeback).
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Saw that Buiyota Benz again yesterday outside a store. Yep its a Camry, yep no badging but the MB star and the Buick holes. Was so tempted to wait for the driver and ask "why?".

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • carlisimocarlisimo Member Posts: 1,280
    Saw a car going 45 on a 65, with a big decorative sticker ("princess" or something like that) in the middle of the rear window... probably covering up her rear view pretty well. The freeway looked like a crowd flowing around a column in a building.

    On that same freeway, a cop had pulled over a tractor trailer maybe 200ft forward of an onramp. Terrible place for the trucker to stop! They were halfway into the merging lane because the shoulder's narrow there, leaving us very little space to get up to speed. Worse, we were coming out of a metering light, and since it's on a hill you can't see the freeway traffic until you reach that point 200ft behind the cop car.
    I gunned it to 60, put on my blinker, took a VERY quick glance at the next lane and jumped in. Hitting a truck would've bounced me right into the police car.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    A very pastoral two lane old fashioned highway with Blue skies, puffy white clouds, snow capped mountains above verdant green meadows augmented by babbling rivers and clear lakes. Suddenly there are a gaggle of Class C motor homes pulling a little car or boat and these drivers are very Passive Agressive. They wait until you are almost upon them and then they pull onto the highway testing your brakes, parachute, and anchor. Some of these challenged folk drive pickups with campers, towing a trailer, and towing a boat behind the trailer!!!!

    UT does not have helmet laws for bikers, very few rest stops, but a lot of church buildings.

    89 only if you have patience. Watch the octane when buying gas. Their regular is 85 and their mid grade is 87.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    UT does not have helmet laws for bikers, very few rest stops, but a lot of church buildings.

    Since we traveled through Utah in the winter (December), we didn't see any motorcylists, or for that matter any motorhomes that I can recall. But entering the state from Nevada on US Route 6/50, one of the first signs you see is "next services 83 miles." This is a very desolate part of the state, but I did like the "Confusion Range" that we passed through.

    Rest stops? Well, there was so little traffic, you could pull off any time nature called and have complete privacy. ;) That's also where I laid down across the middle of the road and had my wife snap a photo.

    Don't try either on I-5 though!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    one of the first signs you see is "next services 83 miles."

    I can beat that.

    http://www.alaskaroads.com/next-services-244mi-large.jpg

    :shades:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,677
    Where is that strip located? That's 4 hours away!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Its the Dalton highway in Alaska, it goes from Fairbanks to Prudhoe Bay about 425 miles long. After you leave the Fairbanks area there is only one service area at Coldfoot (where I believe this picture is taken) before you hit the oil fields at Prudhoe Bay. I think there is only 4 villages (if you want to call them that) along the whole road. This and the Dempster highway (Yukon/NW territories) are the only two roads in North America that cross the Artic Circle. It is also supposively the longest stretch in North America without any service areas.

    People are advised not to travel it as it is a gravel road with lots of trucks traveling it. But if you do bring extra tires and some survival gear.

    Yes I would love to drive it someday.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    Trucker is to be honored & you will honor every trucker or be crushed as the loser. Your call.

    Sorry, I am not a truck worshipper, as you seem to be.

    I guess they should replace the "yield" and "stop" signs with "yield to the heavier vehicle" or "stop only if the other vehicle is heavier"! Let's get back to the law of the jungle. Might is right!
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Understand you don't respect them, but wiser men fear them and so should you. You need to learn to be submissive to the bigger rigs because you will be safer when you are. ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Not sure that wiser men "fear" them as much as understand and respect the nature of the beast.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

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