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  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    happen last Christmas at Toys R Us. I was right there as the door of a minvan flew, making my OBW move on impact. The woman was reasonably apologetic, and with the hord of kids in the van, I could sense her stress. I let her go with a suggestion of "increased care" in her actions, but I get to look at the dent in my body panel (high - at the crease line) every day as a reminder. Yes, it sucks....

    Steve
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Of course it's not AWD, but this tech will work fine for me... and I'll always have the OB to toss around for fun...

    http://www.dcxmediaservices.com/videoptrs/wms/dctv/Mar04/Houghton- _Ride_Drive_300k.wvx
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    have it paintless dent repaired and then polished and buffed.

    if no paint is required it'll be the best $100-150 you ever spent!

    ~c
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    "Armada" is a terrible name for a vehicle - sort of like naming a vehicle the "Maginot."

    Well a more accurate comparison would to keep the nautical theme and name it the Titanic. Wait a second, that's their truck!! LOL

    They should have gone all out, I can see the ad copy now

    "Announcing the new Nissan Armada and Titanic, floundering at a showroom near you."

    Nicholas
  • ldbrickerldbricker Member Posts: 140
    They probably have a guy who comes by between once a week/month and does the cars on the lot. If you are on good terms with them they might give you his number so you could come by when he's there and get yours done and just pay him cash out of pocket. Would probably cost you no more than $50 tops that way.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well shot video - they show FWD's achilles' heel: going up a slippery hill.

    -juice
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    I was under the impression that paintless removal only worked on smooth panels. This, unfortunately, traverses the crease above the door handles. Will it work???

    Steve
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    There's that word again.
    "..."We are transitioning to a premium brand, globally, so this is part of a strategic initiative for us," said the rep for the Cherry Hill, N.J., automaker. ..."

    -Dennis
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This premium stuff is nonsense, blah, just say you want to make more profit and be done with it.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Well a more accurate comparison would to keep the nautical theme and name it the Titanic.

    Actually I was thinking the theme was "failed military/naval ventures."

    Ed
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    They actually might be able to fix the dent, even if it's near a crease. Doesn't hurt to check. Those guys do some amazing work in my experience. I agree with Colin, if they fix that dent it will be money well spent!

    Craig
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    new color for the Nissan - Harbor Pearl! :)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    "The Subaru Crew" the official Ad Agency of SOA and FHI. Headed by Juice and Bob with the rest of the crew taking lead positions as well? How about that? Who knows more about Subaru Owners and how to get them to buy than us?

    -mike
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Absolutely, if no paint is broken chance's are good they can fix it, I had two right on the crease on my Honda wagon and the dent guy got them out.

      Cheers Pat.
  • ldbrickerldbricker Member Posts: 140
    as well. That's why I suggested talking to your selling dealer to see if you can piggyback on their day with the dent guy. Doesn't hurt that he'll probably do it for a much smaller amount in cash either.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Nice link.

    Notice the uphill test was only with one side on ice.

    Now why can't Subaru do something like that with it's "top" customers?

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That's why Juice and Bob get to fly out to LV to test the new GT...

    -mike
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    Dropped by my dealer today and he showed me his brand new pics of the new 7 passenger 'whateveritsnameis'. Thumbs down here. Front end looks like the 1st gen Toyota Sienna. Definately very minivan in its look, but it had 4 regular doors on it, not sliders. Wouldn't want to bet the farm on it's success. Doesn't look like an SUV so it won't be snagging that market. On the other hand, minivans with regular doors - Nissan Axxess,Honda Odyssey were good vehicles which car buyers ignored resoundingly.
    Anyone else seen the pics?

    Nicholas
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    It isn't unusual for an incumbent agency to be asked to pitch for their continued appointment. Generally, the sitting agency has best chance of renewal because it knows the client and their values, but it gives a chance to look at the alternative talent. If something comes out of left field that is really attractive, it gives the client the chance to see it. If nothing really exciting appears, nothing is lost as would occur if the sitting agency was sacked outright.

    It is particularly appealing when the client is refocusing their business and may be held back by existing perceptions of suppliers.

    Globally, Subaru is percieved as a premium product, a position lost in the USA during the "Stack them high, Sell them cheap" campaigns of the 1980's. There's a marketing text on how Subaru's agency nearly killed the business in the USA. They are still paying the price of devaluing the brand. The up side is that those of you in the USA are getting a superb product very cheaply. You don't know how lucky you are!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Well, in reality, any person trying to climb a hill of ice needs to stay home cause it apparent that the weather conditions are nondriveable... even with AWD. But did you see the 300 on the ice pavement? AWD version to come out in Fall 2004. Don't know any weight info yet...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nicholas: did it look at all like the pics we've seen here before? The yellow one, or the red one?

    Marketing? First of all, dump the LL Bean tie-in, we need a Dave Edition instead. Custom name plates and labels where the LL Bean stuff is now.

    Then a Mike edition for the turbos.

    For the many Mac users, an iPod dock built-in to every single model, and a pull-out charger for all PowerBook laptops.

    Next, add built-in pet harnesses, maybe on sliding rails in the cargo area of the wagons. Water dispensers optional. Line the cargo areas for hose-out convenience.

    Bring back the built-in booster seats, I'd kill for a pair of those. Volvo's are brilliant.

    You'd barely have to market them at all, demand would outstrip supply.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I would like to put in a request for all H8 engines carry the Paisan Moniker on the plastic shield over the intake manifold. :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Actually, a more general "Mike" edition would have 2 extra cylinders on every model across the lineup. H6 Outback Sport, H8 Outback, etc.

    So the "Mike" line would be the performance line. The "Dave" line would be about value and unique features.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    fold-up fence in the trunk/hatchback?
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    with some hydraulics, lowriden and PR flag over the rearview, with super plush seats. lol
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sounds like fun, we can each come up with our own bizarre custom wish list. How 'bout it folks?

    OK, I'll choose to customize the 7 seater, Surveyor or Adirondack, whatever.

    My base pallette would include a cloth car with a moonroof (right there it's a custom). H6 engine with a 5 speed SportShift, VTD, stability control. To keep costs down delete leather, power seats, climate control, and no fancy stereo. That would make it $3 grand cheaper than the planned base model, which should put it at about $30 grand, my upper price limit.

    Now to customize: I'd like unpainted cladding, Forester X style, on everything below the waist, the entire vehicle. Bumpers, and lower doors, plus the fender flares. Save on paint costs right there.

    Inside, delete the carpeting from the cargo area. I'd even consider deleting the floor carpets alltogether for a hose-out style interior, good for the kids.

    I want DVD but to keep costs down I'd settle for a DC outlet for my laptop and a custom-made laptop mount that could squeeze it between the two front seats.

    The 2nd row would have 2 built-in booster seats, Volvo style. The 3 parts of the seat would slide fore/aft independently. If that's too costly at least have 2 parts slide independently.

    If you want to get really creative, how 'bout a fold out diaper changing station in the cargo area? It could have a baby wipe dispenser, as well as a diaper and ointment dispenser (now *that* would be hilarious).

    Price no object, how 'bout a pop-out robot to do the entire diaper change? But I digress...

    Factory window tint. Integrated tow hitch. Roof rack with sliding cross bars, with no tools required. Huge moonroof a la Legacy.

    If not Nav optional, then at least a docking station for one of those Garmin Palms. Right next to the iPod dock. In fact put those next to a basic single CD radio, but with MP3 playback. Ditch the CD changer to save on costs.

    Self-leveling shocks for the rear suspension. Definitely.

    Harness attachment for Hadji.

    That's all I can think of for now. Get creative folks. How would you customize your Subie of choice? Pick any current or future model.

    -juice
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    "Does that have a Mike in it?"
    "Can you say M-iiikke?" lol
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Maybe an H12 diesel with a light pressure turbo, tow special with integrated Class III hitch, sold along with a trailer accessory with trailer brakes.

    External AC power for tools at the track. Built-in air compressor.

    Full control DCCD. MP3. Nav. Front missile launchers for pesky left lane hogs.

    But let's get even more creative. Refrigerated soda dispenser. "Presto Pasta" accessory to dispense cooked pasta and sauce on the spot. ;-)

    What else would go on the Mike Edition? Help me out folks!

    -juice
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    20 inch bling rims
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    FOP decal and a copy of the book How to Talk Your Way Out of a Traffic Ticket :-)

    -Frank P
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    How about a 3D hologram of a police officer front passenger?

    That would work for any HOV commuters, too.

    Oh yeah, my Subie would have to have an on-board computer capable of measuring mileage to the 5th decimal accurately. ;-)

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    "Oh yeah, my Subie would have to have an on-board computer capable of measuring mileage to the 5th decimal accurately. ;-)"

    Only 5 places - man do I despise slackers who don't pay attention to detail!!
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    * Towing 5K (unbraked)

    * 18 speeds (3 ranges, like a mountain bike)

    * 3.0 turbo H-6 hybrid

    * Every gadget known to man

    * Priced ~ $25K

    Bob (who just OD'd on dream pills)
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Hyundai passed Toyota in JD Powers quality ratings according to AN this year!

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    rob: that's just for the "instant mpg" calculator. For the trip and average mpg I'd need accuracy to the 10th decimal at least. ;-)

    Bob: you had me until the price part, then I bust out laughing and shot soda out my nose. That was funny, though.

    Hyundai has made great strides. I honestly think they've traded places with Mitsubishi. They're now the mid-size tier II fighter from Asia with good quality and value pricing.

    They keep gaining market share. They were once smaller than Subaru but now are much bigger, I believe.

    I wouldn't bet against them. They keep phasing out their older, lower quality products and keep replacing them with better and better ones, with reliability improving steadily.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Let's explore those gadgets, shall we?

    First, it would have hybrid electric H6 power with flex fuel capability, for gas, E85, and even biodiesel.

    The electric motor would serve as a whole-house generator for those power outages. The moonroof would have solar panels to recharge the batteries while not in use, improving mileage.

    Inside, the Nav system would give voice commands, but would also have a built-in "listener" mode, because Bob loves to chat. It would listen and say things like "uh-huh" and "I agree, good observation" once in a while.

    The on-board computer would have detailed car specs for every vehicle ever made, and for every market, including JDM. It would have intelligent search capabilities and actually hear what car or truck Bob was talking about and automatically bring up relevant info for that model.

    The cargo area would have a dog harness on a sliding track for Annie, plus a built-in water and dog food dispenser. An on-board hose and a rubberized cargo floor would actually hose itself out when the automatic smell feature sensed too much dog odor. This feature would work even when the car is in motion.

    Beyond dual-zone climate control, it would have dual-zone environment control, for instance his wife's smoking would be vaccumed up and away from him.

    He'd also get the Mike Edition trailer, of course.

    ESP sensors would select the appropriate gear he'd want at any given time. All 18 of the gears, that is.

    There would be no belts, just chains. Even the accessory belts would be maintenance-free. :o)

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...and with the new plant in Alabama coming on line in early 2005, an even greater focus on the US market.

    According to a little blurb I read on their mfg site, Hyundai can't duplicate the low cost environment in Korea so they plan to sell more expensive vehicles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    When the Tucson arrives, the Santa Fe could grow bigger and move upscale. As they are they will overlap waaaaay too much. Both Tucson engines are shared with the SF.

    So built that here, plus the replacement for the Sedona minivan. Or maybe the Sorento.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Man, you all have waaay too much time on your hands.

    Me, I just wanted a Forester XT with VTD and Sportshift. Ain't gonna happen, even with all the stuff in the FHI parts bin.

    Oh yeah, and alcantara seats. Use the blue stuff from the WRX STi if you have to.

    Ed
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I can come up with quite a few things for you.

    The Limited Edition would have:

    * pop-up diaper changing station
    * ability to tow a Lark 6 sedan
    * liner for hauling parts for the Lark 6
    * Studebaker-style disappearing roof
    * adjustable sway bar and shocks
    * two sets of wheels/tires from the factory, performance and snow/off road
    * height adjustable shocks with manual controls

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    juice found my bottle of dream pills...
    :)

    Bob
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    According to http://www.hmmausa.com/overview.html this plant will build the next generation Santa Fe and Sonata starting in the Spring of 2005.
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    pop-up diaper changing station

    It's at the right height already - for me anyway.

    ability to tow a Lark 6 sedan

    That would be about 3300 lb. I'll bet a lot of folks here would appreciate that.

    liner for hauling parts for the Lark 6

    Got it already. The Bean Forester's uncarpeted cargo bay would be helpful.

    Studebaker-style disappearing roof

    Subaru's let this one get away. It would fit perfectly with the Hill Holder clutch. ;-) If they could adapt the technology from the GMC Envoy to the new Legacy/Outback, there would be no need for the Baja.

    adjustable sway bar and shocks

    two sets of wheels/tires from the factory, performance and snow/off road


    That would save me some $, for sure.

    height adjustable shocks with manual controls

    A great idea, not a stretch from the Bean (and the rest of the world's) Forester's self-leveling suspension.

    Ed
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