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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I just don't see any harmony in the design.

    The green house looks like the Miata coupe concept that was never built. The side scoops look like the old Hyundai Tiburon. It's just too all over the place, what's the theme? There are many.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    My guess is you would really have to see it in person, and then decide. The huge rear fender scoop suggests mid-engine, but I'm sure that's not the case, as it is AWD—with a driveshaft.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    just did a comparo of the Spec B and the Mazdaspeed6. It was close, but the Legacy came in first. I believe they said it was a bit more refined than the Mazda. That sucker cracked a 5.4, 0–60, and Mazda did a 5.8, 0–60!

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Cool, I think the issue with the Mazda is WEIGHT, it's a heavy one.

    -juice
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    and my guess is Spec B took handling and braking too?

    John
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Haven't seen the full article...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It wasn't online as of yesterday. I picked it up at the news stand.

    Speaking of Motor Trend. Their quality has improved dramatically over the last year or so, at least I think so.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think so, too. They brought in some young blood and it seems to be working for them. I used to hate their writing.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I think so, too. They brought in some young blood and it seems to be working for them. I used to hate their writing.

    Actually they brought in some old blood - David E. Davis is running the show there now. He can be a little pompous, but he knows good writing (which this isn't).
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Isn't some guy Angus the lead editor? Maybe one of them.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Angus MacKenzie is editor-in-chief. David E. Davis is/was editorial director. What's the difference?? I really don't know.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    Where's the wagon? I am still drooling over the Japanese Legacy GT photos.

    John
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Ok, I need some counseling from the audiophile among us....

    I received a SanDisk Sansa M240 (1 gig) MP3 player for the holidays from Beth. It has everything that I needed - gum pack small,FM radio, back lit multline display, great sound with adequate capacity for occasional use, business trips, etc. I saw it advertised locally several times for around $89, so the price was very attractive. While I considered the ipod line, I just couldn't see watching videos, etc, so the large color display would be wasted on me. The supplied ear buds are OK, but coupled with my Bose QC2 noise cancelling head phones, the sound is awesome! So now the questions:

    1) MP3 vs WMA format. When I insert my own CD's, Windows Media Player fills in all of the directory info, and converts the tracks to Windows Media Audio. I played with the settings and found that 128kbps with a compression that yields "about 56meg per CD" sounds (at least to my tin ears) quite good. That will yield around 18 average albums / 225 or so songs for the 1meg capacity. Any thoughts on this? Is MP3 conversion better? Does WMP do MP3 conversion? Maybe I missed the option, but it is not obvious to me.

    2) It came bundled with some '1-2 month free' offers from Napster and Rhapsody, but I have not explored them yet. Is their music MP3 or WMA? Can you mix formats on a player without problems? How do those sites 'control' their downloaded music? For instance, you can download during the trial period, but they say you must remain a member in order to play what you downloaded. If you put it onto your player, burn it to a disk, move it to another PC, how is the "membership checking" accomplished?

    3) What is different about the i-tunes site / i-tunes players? Why is their music incompatible with the rest of the world? Is there a conversion method or is everything they have available from the other commercial sites?

    4) Beth mentioned using it in the car. Any recommendations on reasonable priced quality FM transmitters?

    Thanks,

    Steve
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
    it is a mad-house and i am sure i only understand ¼ of it.

    i have a mix of wma/ipods in the house and am now exploring how to solve this diverse hardware....

    i currently use Napster for the WMA devices and the songs i have bought have downloaded came down as WMA. since i bought these, they have no expiration. however, the monthly service you are talking about will 'kill' the songs if you do not continue to pay for the service.

    not that i suggest you do this but. download a free recorder like Audacity. you could download the songs to the computer and rip the songs as MP3 as they play on the computer.

    itunes is just apple being apple. see the above method for ideas.

    on the FM transmitters, i think there are 1000+ postings in here about them. some say taste great, other say less filling.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    The iTunes store used 128K AAC format, which has the same quality as 192K MP3 (but obviously the AAC results in a smaller file). I think WMA is a pretty decent format, but I have never used it personally. When I used MP3, I found 192K to be a good setting.

    Originally, iTunes was different because it was a la carte and you own the music (forever) as soon as you buy it. Back then, the other services were subscription only, but I believe they also offer a la carte now. I really don't understand the subscription model, as I would have a hard time "renting" music I plan to listen to indefinitely.

    Steve, if you happen to want an FM modulator (which hardwires into the antenna line) I have an extra one laying around that came out of my OB XT, which you can have for cheap. Modulators sound much better than the wireless transmitters. However, if you have a cassete player in your OB, get a cassette adapter. They sound way better than any FM solution.

    You can convert iTunes store songs into other formats, but it can be a tedious process -- you have to burn to CD and re-import in order to break the digital rights management. Same goes for most other protected formats too -- they don't make it easy to copy/transfer music.

    I don't know about other services, but iTunes allows you to share purchased music on up to 5 computers and an unlimited number of iPods.

    My personal opinion is that the main advantage to iTunes is the integration of hardware and software, and all the advanced features it supports. For instance, my music library and my wife's are cross-shared over our in house 802.11 network, which also accomodates guests running iTunes too. In addition, our music libraries are wirelessly piped to our stereo and everything can cross-talk with our TiVo. All this is done easily in iTunes. One of my buddies runs a similar network under Windows and Linux, and it was much, much more complicated to setup. He actually needs a keyboard to control it all!

    Craig
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Craig covered most of info, but FYI, Windows Media 10 can be configured to encode (rip) media to .mp3 format instead of .wmv.

    Oh also, if your Sansa has a SD memory expansion slot then I bought the same thing for my girlfriend for xmas. I also scored a 512mb SD card for $15 after rebate that she uses for both her camera and the mp3 player.

    ~Colin
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Yes, it's about that time. I have a CD burner but of course, it's not sufficient anymore. What do you guys have for Windows XP PC? I've been looking at a couple of them, I can't believe how relatively cheap the prices are, well I think they are.

    I've been looking at the LG, NEC, Sony... and of course it has to be black to match the rest of the box ;)
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Hey Elm,

    I've been a big fan of Plextor when it comes to DVD/CD burners. They usually get good reviews. I also know that LG has been pretty good. I think soemone had said (at one time) that SONY has some compatiblilty issues. Either way, they are nice and cheap now so enjoy!

    Mark
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    I have an LG DVD-Cd burner and have been quite happy with it. And yeah they are very cheap now, actually they are all in the same ball park pricewise.

    Cheers Pat.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    ...starting reading reviews about others like Sony and people weren't too happy with them.

    Thanks for the help.

    By the way Mark, how's the 7 degree weather? ;)
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    It only felt like 7 over the weekend :) . Now it's supposed to get up to mid to upper 40's. Hardly any snow though :( .

    How's Atlanta treating you and your family?

    Mark
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Very nice... We like it down here...

    It's been averaging low to mid 50's ;)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I have one of the Sony "DVDirect" thingies, but so much for it being direct - I cannot burn video without using my hard drive as an intermediate step.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I've had my Sony dual-layer model for almost a year now and it works fine. It's no-frills and came with absolutely nothing besides a drive and cable but that's all I needed and it was cheap. :)

    Wait-- I can't get it to work with dual-layer media, but I think that's a fault of the software I am using. I don't think my (older) software realizes the capacity of the disk. I bought a few pricey DL discs to check it out, but after getting stumped I decided that I'd keep burning on the cheap media instead of bothering with software upgrades.

    ~Colin
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Hey guys, thanks for your insight. I could probably get my information off the street from any 16 year old, but feel safer asking you other old geeks! I watch my 10 yr old do stuff, and wonder how the hell she learned so much, so fast. Really scarry.....

    Swampy! Never saw you type so much before. Usually you are the man of one liners! But thanks. I went to the Audacity site and looked at their package. Places like Napster have several different pricing options - some in which you purchase, and some where it looks like you 'rent'.

    Craig, thanks for the offer and advice. I have a cassette adapter left over from the old days when a CD player was something that sat on the passengers seat, and you played it thru the indash cassette player. I'll give it a try.

    Colin, I am using Media Player 9, so maybe that is why I did not see an MP3 option. I guess I will stay with WMA as it sounds fine to me. The Sansa M240 is not expandable, but at under $90 for the 1gig version, is a pretty decent deal.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Thanks Serge. I made it a Straightline blog post. Hopefully it will get SpeedTV to see there's a whole world of automotive fans they are excluding.

    Bob
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Hopefully it will get SpeedTV to see there's a whole world of automotive fans they are excluding.

    You can petition all you want but as long as Fox is making money with the current programming, they're not going to change.

    They already pay for NASCAR broadcast rights. Each additional program is cheaper to make than the previous because it's the same footage.

    I do wish they were more varied.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Hope you don't mind me using the link at NABISCO ;)

    Thanks.

    El
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    2 of Harley Earl's concept vehicles brought record bids.

    They where the '54 Pontiac Bonneville Special ($2,800,000) and the Futurliner Parade of Progress Tour Bus ($4,000,000.

    Bob
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    And I'm sure that Barrett-Jackson is very happy as well. Those two brought in to them at least $1M in seller and buyer fees!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wow, I'm surprised. They don't seem like they'd sell for that much. Both are a bit strange to me, not ugly but off beat.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Wow, I'm surprised. They don't seem like they'd sell for that much. Both are a bit strange to me, not ugly but off beat.

    They're pieces of automotive history - one of kind.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I want the B9, but not for that much!

    :surprise:

    -juice
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    The Futurliner reminds be of a giant version of the retro Bus concept VW never followed up on. That, or a giant 1940s kitchen appliance. :) I do kinda like it, though.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Actually there were two Bonneville Specials built, I believe. Maybe that's why it got off cheap. ;)

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Well, it was built in 1950—and probably designed in 1949, so the '40s kitchen appliance is not that far off.

    Bob
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Whilst there were two Bonnevilles, there were twelve of the Futurliners, nine of them surviving in varying forms. The idea came from Charles F (Boss) Kettering who suggested a Parade of Progress to Alfred P Sloan and the head of PR for GM. The endorsed it as a showcase for GM products and from 1936 to 1956 9with a break for the war) 55 young graduates got to tour the USA, establishing a a GM display in various US (and on occasion Mexico and Canadian) cities.

    The presentation was targeted at showing new technological developments and was very successful but with the coming of TV, the need to market this way diminished.

    The story is fascinating and the attached link provides a good starting point

    http://www.futurliner.com/

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Thanks for the great link Graham. I added it to the blog entry I did on this subject over on Edmunds' "Straightline."

    http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8ed35

    Bob
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    I've always thought the futurliner was pretty cool !!!
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    'bout time!

    http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=50678&dm=yes

    It will be selling the Legacy and two ther models from the Indiana plant to start. Okay, Tribeca and??? The Baja reportedly will no longer be produced, so what is the other model? I guess it could be the Outback.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Probably Outback, they have a lot of beaches and a lot of secondary roads that aren't very smooth.

    -juice
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Or that Subaru owned it in the first place!
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Steve,

    Welcome to the world of portable digital audio! :-)

    Looks like most of your questions were answered. Just a few more things I thought I'd add:

    - There are plenty of other CD Rippers that will pull CD information for you and encode MP3s. I believe WinAmp and LAME are some freeware programs that do that for you. CD information is pulled from the CDDB so it's automatic. Also, some programs will scan your CD first and set the appropriate output level to prevent clipping -- pretty neat.
    - iTunes has a function to convert their ACC into MP3 format, but that alone would not be a good reason to go with them. As Craig mentioned, the main benefit to iTunes/iPods is the integration and ease of use. Unless you absolutely wanted to take advantage of the iTunes library and keep your MP3 player, there's no reason to switch.
    - FM Transmitters will deliver the lowest sound quality. You're better off with a casette adapter, even if it means having some unsightly wires hanging around your center console. If you want to try either an in-line modulator or a basic transmitter, let me know -- I have one of each lying around.

    Ken
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    I finally did it! I've placed my order for an 20" Intel iMac last night. I had it built-to-order with a 2Gb memory and 256M graphics memory upgrade. Should be here in a couple of weeks!

    Ken
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Congratulations Ken! Welcome to a higher state of computer consciousness! ;) I'm probably going to get the new powerbook later this year, but I'd like to see how the Intel chip works out first. Hopefully you can tell us! :D

    Oooh, it's gonna be a long few weeks waiting. You don't have a local Apple store to buy it from?

    tom
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Way to go Ken! Now you are truly a Subie guy. ;)

    Bob
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Thanks! I'm very psyched to be returning to Mac again (that was what I used in college and my first job).

    The new Core Duo chipset seems to be faring well based on the tests and benchmarks that are coming out now. SW written for the universal binaries supposedly run very fast and Rosetta seems to do a pretty decent job of on-the-fly translation. Since I don't have any older SW to run, that's really not an issue for me.

    I was going to buy from a local Apple store (there are three within 10 miles of me), but they didn't have any upgrade memory nor the extended graphics memory either. Plus, a friend of mine who works at Apple graciously extended her discount to me so we had to order on-line. :-)

    Ken
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    ken, I got the iMac G5 17" last summer. What an awesome computer. Last week I was on the Subaru chat and recording grades on a spread sheet at the same time. That's with the 17" and imagine what you can display on the 20". I have been editing videos to show in my science classes. I have a digital 8 Sony camcorder so that gives me access to my old 8 mm tapes. I learned iDVD pretty quickly and between that and iMovie I have been burning DVD's of the Hawaiian volcanoes, Yellowstone etc.

    I have heard that the intel one requires a different more expensive memory upgrade and the case is harder to open. Mine required removal of three phillips screws to take the back off and add a 512 SIMM which cost $50 to take me up to 1 gig of memory.

    I am interested which way the laptop thing will go. I was disapointed that the rumored 13.3" widescreeen iBook did not show up. I have a 2003 model iBook G4 12" 800mhz. I love the widescreen format but I have never wanted to shell out the money for the 15" wicescreen Powerbook. If they do a widescreen iBoo, I am buying,

    TWRX
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Ahh, having friends in the right places is a good thing. ;)

    Did you get a better deal than the Academic discount? I'm guessing employees do better than Academic staff?

    tom
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