Infiniti G37 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • cadreamncadreamn Member Posts: 56
    Excellent - thank you. Have been waiting for the 2008s. Can you mention which dealer? Did you get any invoice prices?
  • pamin211pamin211 Member Posts: 1
    The dealer originally offered to sell for $34,769 and then came back with $34,269. Is this a good deal? From everything I can see in my research, this is at invoice (maybe even slightly below). I think I am getting an awesome deal and have had them place the car on hold for me, but I would like to see what everyone here thinks.

    The car has navigation, the premium package, sport wheels, and the tech package. Black on Black. Brand new 2007.
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    I was not able to obtain a complete invoice listing, but I can tell you a few things. Freight is $715.

    2008 G35 Journey, MSRP $32,050 Invoice $29,480
    NAV MRSP $2,150 Invoice $1,853
    PRM MSRP $2,500 Invoice $2,155
    SPT MRSP $1,650 Invoice $1,422 (the new Sport package)

    Misc stuff: cargo net $60 sticker/$46 invoice, splash guards $150/$114, and trunk mat $100/$75.

    The dealer stated the announced MSRP has already been increased by $150 on all G35 models, so in other words, they are saying the MRSP of the G35 Journey is not $32,050 but $32,200. No way to confirm if this is true or profit.

    The 2008 model has 5-speed AT (same as 2007). XM radio is now standard. Like the G37 Coupe, the PRM package now has the "Infinity Interface for iPod" and the "Drivers Audio Stage". The NAV package adds the Rear View Monitor that was in the '07 TECH package.

    Dealer is not willing to negotiate much, but they are offering about $2k below MSRP, which makes it about $1500 above invoice. Not exactly sure if it's a "deal" or not...

    kc
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    When I bought my 07, the dealer was only willing to meet me half way between MSRP and Invoice.
    As the months roll by, the 07's can be had for less.

    With the 08's being brand new, I'd assume you'll see the same.
    Some dealers with higher sale rates will not budge in the beginning, and most will slowly start to slide toward Invoice as the months roll on.
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    Thanks for the advice Scott. I've been following your comments a lot on the Edmunds message boards and it's been quite helpful, along with all the other G35 owners/enthusiasts. It was especially informative back when you were looking at the Acura TL as I have also been looking at the TL/TL-S for a long time. After much back and forth I am hooked on the G35.

    The dealer has located a car with the color and options I like (PRM/NAV/SPT) and is having it transfered to them prior to arrival at the port (that way it gets shipped to them like normal instead of someone driving it to the dealer). I've been pleased with the sales experience so far so I have no complaints. Just wish the car was here sooner :):)

    kc
  • cadreamncadreamn Member Posts: 56
    Congrats - I assume this is a 2008? - if so, can you provide dealer info?
  • bogossbogoss Member Posts: 9
    Does anyone know if Infiniti will allow VPP pricing on the 08 G35 in October? I see on the nissan VPP website that the VPP pricing is offered on the 08 FX35/45 and the QX56.
    Thanks in advance
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    Yes, this is for a 2008 G35. This info was from Gwinnett Infiniti in Duluth, GA (north east of Atlanta on I-85). Expected delivery on some cars is first week of October.

    kc
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    You will have to keep checking the site in October. The VPP availability changes often...when it's first avail, it might just be for VPP Plan A participants, etc. Not to mention that even if it is available, it will be up to the dealer to decide if they want to offer it. I was a VPP plan C participant, and when I was trying for my vehicle it was difficult to find a dealer who would accept it on the configuration I wanted since it was so new and Sport models w/ Navi were in high demand...and I was talking to probably 15 separate dealers!
  • antreed77antreed77 Member Posts: 3
    New to this board , please tell me if this is a good deal for a 2007 G35X PREMIUM PACKAGE(NAV)on a 39 month 15k a year lease.

    Vehicle price: 37,864
    cap cost reduction: 3,192
    Adj.Cap cost reduction : 34,671
    Residual : 21,513
    Depreciation: 13,158
    Rent: 5,193
    Total of base payments: 18,351
    # of payments: 39
    Base Payment: 470
    Monthly tax(6%) 28
    total payment: 498

    This deal is contingent on me trading in my car and the dealer giving me 5,000 to cover the following

    cap cost reduction: 3,192
    Doc Fee: 299
    Sales Tax : 245
    1st Month payment: 498
    Aqustion. Fee: 595
    Lic. Fees: 160
    Total drive off: 5000

    Please any help is great!! I have this deal on the table!!
  • clutchr6clutchr6 Member Posts: 2
    Just looking at the basic package no extras.

    On the base package the lowest I got was 33300. Im thinking it should be lower or am I wrong?
  • clutchr6clutchr6 Member Posts: 2
    I agree with you but where are you getting 170 per month from?
  • frank8040frank8040 Member Posts: 11
    I just drove off with my 07 yesterday. I bought the dealer demo liquid platinum and Black interior with 600 miles on it. It has Premium and Navigation Package. Paid $36113 + TT&L. Just starting to get acquainted with the car.
  • trojan2000trojan2000 Member Posts: 6
    That sounds like a great deal to me. I'm looking to get one as well without the tech package, but w/ premium and nav. Where did you get this deal from?
  • scottm123scottm123 Member Posts: 1,501
    Congrats on the new G Frank... you'll love it.
    Especially after the dreaded 1200 mile break-in period.
    At least you're already half way there.... let's hope those 600 were easy miles! ;)

    Sounds like you paid $500 over invoice.
    I paid more like $1,500 over invoice, but that was back in the beginning of the year and I had 10.5 miles on mine.
    I also opted for the Tech pack & wood trim, which made the car very hard to find. I was also pretty firm on my color choice.
    The special order made making a deal that much more difficult. (X's are VERY popular here in NE)

    I've had it since April and the novelty has not worn off at all yet... still look forward to driving every chance I get. :blush:
  • yogiowneryogiowner Member Posts: 117
    hello guys,

    i am glad that folks are thinking about the value of their money. that is the great advantage of forums like this.

    mr. superman2424, if you cannot put down 30% you probably should not buy a car at that price. true it is a blanket statement. it is meant to be...guidance. very, very rarely is one able to match the interest earnings rate with the interest and finance charges assessed when purchasing a vehicle. How do i know?

    I ran the numbers. I am fortunate in that I have excellent credit and could put more than 30% down. What was the result? A low interest cost..overall lower costs during my ownership of the car. AND best of alll - I AM NOT UPSIDE DOWN in my car loan.

    A car is not an asset. It is a possession and a depreciating liability. all one ever does with a car (unless it is used for business) is spend money on it - gas, maintenance, insurance, etc. Assets earn money. Collectable cars may be considered assets, in that it increases in value. However it is simply wrong to think of a car as an asset. It is a possession. It is only assets to dealers, who sell them for profit and spend very little on maintenance, etc.

    I would respectfully challenge you to find a financially secure person who understands the value of a dollar, assets, investsments and liabilities to tell you that you should put down as little money as possible on a car, thus maximizing the loan AND risk being UPSIDE DOWN.

    Leasing is a lifestyle choice. It should not be regarded as a financial one.

    Thanks for the thoughts and input.
  • liannellliannell Member Posts: 47
    Regarding the MSRP/Invoice discrepancies, Edmunds is a bit off, but the updated pricing isn't hard to find elsewhere. I'm looking at a G35 Journey with Premium Package, and the Premium Package MSRP is actually $150 more than Edmunds shows (and the splash guards have increased $10 too).

    I'm in NC, we have excessive doc fees here too. I read about $45 doc fees in CA and it makes me quite jealous. I have never been successful in getting a dealer to drop or even reduce a doc fee. I've used the VPP pricing, and talked with my sales manager about how the VPP terms omit any reference to required doc fees (it's just the VPP calculated price plus any dealer-added options, plus tax/tag/registration fees....no doc fees). It was fruitless, he said he even had to pay the doc fee when he bought his personal car. I understand that it depends on the dealer and some will negotiate it, but I haven't been so lucky in NC (or even know anyone that has).
  • dohturdimadohturdima Member Posts: 14
    I have to agree that making a blanket statement about how one should finance their purchase makes little sense. A lot of things have to be taken into consideration given that everyone's circumstances are different - bad/good credit, lump sum payments coming in that will facilitate repayment vs. savings that aren't being invested, work or family related circumstances, planned expenses, concerns about unplanned expenses, trade in/no trade in etc etc. I can't believe how much time people spend on this forum debating buy vs lease, how much money to put down, whether to use the dealer to finance or e-loan/their bank - until they're blue in the face, not realizing that either can be beneficial in certain _individual_ circumstances. :confuse:
  • superman2424superman2424 Member Posts: 11
    yogiowner, your first mistake was making an assumption. You respectfully challenge me to find a financially secure person that tells you to put as little money as possible on a car. Within that statement, you assume I am not financially secure. Which you are incorrect.

    Second, it appears we need to go back to accounting 101 for some of the individuals here. A car can be an asset, and expense or a liability. Here are examples.

    A single car payment is an expense
    A car is an asset if it can be sold for more than is owed
    A car loan is a liability

    For 95% of the population, their car is a liability, but for those dumping large sums to purchase the vehicle, it is an asset and a depreciating one.

    You are correct stating that an idividual should not be upside down in their car. That indeed creates a poor financial situation, but again demonstrates the importance of this forum and negotiating a fair deal as a consumer.

    Frankly, telling people to put 30% down on a car is very poor financial advise. A good financial rule is that rich people are those that put their money in assets and poor people put their money in liabilities. So why in the world would you advise someone to put their money in something that eventually becomes an asset with very little value once it is owned??? There is a list of books I can recommend to you if you do not believe me or simply understand the logic.

    The individual that stated that every person's situation warrants a different action is 100% correct. But there is rarely a situation in which an individual should dump 30% down on a car in cash. It's poor financial suggestion and one I hope you are not presenting to individuals you know.
  • atlcaratlcar Member Posts: 2
    Making my first car purchase and have a few questions I would really appreciate help with: 1) What is invoice on a 2007 G35 w/prem & nav (sport & non-sport version) no tech pkg & w/o destination fee? I checked Edmunds but have seen conflicting info posted. A dealer (friend of friend) offered $200 over invoice (but invoice was not specified), so I want to make sure I have it right. 2) Does $200 over invoice sound about right for this car this time of year? Anyone anticipating incentives in October? and 3) What's the chance of getting an '08 for $200-$500 over invoice (relative qualifies for VPP)? -- I'm assuming slim to none. Thank you in advance!!
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    Not sure about what invoice is currently, but I'm pretty sure you could do a google search and find some info on it. If it's truly $200 over invoice without you paying any kind of cap reduction or involving any trade-ins, and they aren't over charging you for other admin and bank fees, then yes $200 over is very good. As for a 2008, I wouldn't hold your breath for VPP in the first month or so. It might become available, but it's hard to tell when and what VPP plans will be offered initially.
  • litigatelitigate Member Posts: 1
    Just picked up my '07 G35 Journey Sedan.
    Platinum graphite, graphite interior, premium, nav & tech., splash guards & trunk net, stickered @ $38,515, bought for $35,600 plus tax, license & reg.

    I'm told I paid $500 over invoice. Another dealer was selling at invoice but I didn't want the black on black and he low balled me on my 350z trade.

    The 08's are on the lots. They include the back-up camera.
  • bogossbogoss Member Posts: 9
    My dealership told me today that the 08 are coming sometime within the next 2 weeks as they have just received the invoice on the cars. The sales manager also promised VPP pricing on a 08 G35 Journey Black/Wheat/Rosewood/Prem + Nav and I was quoted today for this model. Apparently VPP is possible as soon as the cars hit the dealership lot.
  • dat2dat2 Member Posts: 251
    Is there a place that has all of the available VPP plans??
  • cadreamncadreamn Member Posts: 56
    Great news. Can you provide invoice breakdown and dealership name? I am looking for exact same specs except G35x, also VPP.
  • jwrlawjwrlaw Member Posts: 1
    First off, thanks for all the invaluable information provided in this forum. It helped me with my vehicle purchase in STL yesterday.

    Bought 2007 G35 Journey with Premium, Nav, wood trim, cargo net, splash guards. Black exterior, wheat interior.

    34,680.00 plus T,T,&L.

    It is a sweet ride, very happy with the purchase and the price. Now is the time to jump on the 2007s, with arrival of 2008 here or on the way.
  • eshapireshapir Member Posts: 24
    Can anyone speak to recent lease terms? I'm looking at a 2008 G35 with VPP pricing and the Money Factor quoted for the lease seems way too high.

    36 months
    MF = 0.003
    Residual = 54%
  • andywattyandywatty Member Posts: 16
    Please give us the dealer name and the breakdown of the invoice prices (car, Nav, Prem, Tech, etc.).
    It would help me whe I start to deal on an 08 G35x.
    Anybody else have invoice numbers on the X and the packages for the 08's?
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    I listed MRSP and invoice prices on the '08 G35 Journey and various packages a few messages back (#4831). Not a complete list but what I got from the dealer. Keep in mind there is no G35 Sport with AT anymore, it has been replaced with a sport package on the Journey. According to the model guide it's exactly identical as the '07 Sport AT (the dealer even stated it has the 'S' next to G35 on the trunk).

    The dealer stated the reason they are going with the Journey + Sport Package vs the previous Sport model approach was to make the 6MT the only "Sport" model of the car for depreciation purposes. Apparently, in 2007 and prior, the G35 Sport w/ AT and G35 Sport 6MT depreciated at the same rate. Now, by having the Sport model only available in 6MT they can set a different depreciation rate compared to the Sport w/ AT (aka Journey w/ SPT package).

    Also, the premium package and sport packages on the G35x are cheaper than the non-X version ($2500 vs $2300 for PRM, and $1650 vs $1100 for SPT). I do not know the invoice prices on the X versions.

    kc
  • andywattyandywatty Member Posts: 16
    So, invoice on an 08 G35x is probably $31371. Add options at invoice: (based on previous posts)
    Car- $31371
    Nav- $1853
    Prem- $1955
    Net- $ 40
    Splash-$ 114
    Wheels-$ 400

    Total- $35733

    I'll take one please.
  • cubbie_guycubbie_guy Member Posts: 2
    I am looking to purchase a G35x with a prem package and nav system with cargo net and splash guards for about 39400. Invoice is about 36000 per Edmunds. Anybody had any recent dealings in the Chicagoland area and what would be a fair price to pay. I have found the right car and am willing to pull the trigger but need some help. Should I mention VPP pricing even though I don't qualify? I haven't purchased a car for a while and any help would be greatly appreciated. :confuse: :confuse:
  • david_fldavid_fl Member Posts: 17
    I having been deciding on my next car purchase and have pretty much decided to go with the G35 Journey. I went to the dealership and after my test drive I told the salesman what I was looking for, Journey with Prem and Sirus, Blue Slate with Stone interior. He went and checked the inventory and came back and told me the closest he could get was a Platinum Graphite, stone interior, Prem, XM, splash guards, cargo net, tire and wheel package. I know that 2007 are going to be start being limited for availability, so after a bit of griping and complaining I asked for a price.
    After about 5 min he came back over with the sales manager and to my shock he told me that he would sell it to me at invoice.

    I know this is a pretty good deal but I am wondering since the 2008's are going to be hitting show rooms if Infiniti will put some incentives out either the end of this month or in Oct on the 2007's.
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    I wouldn't really mention VPP pricing if you don't qualify...they won't be able to plug in the numbers if you don't have a valid VPP claim number. However, you could certainly try to get them to get close to VPP pricing...maybe $500 over invoice. If you are talking about a 2007 they might do it...for a 2008 I wouldn't count on it though.
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    There is no way to tell if there will be any incentives...but from what I've noticed, the Infiniti's sell fairly well and they don't seem to over supply so they keep the demand up (especially early). Invoice on the car that you want doesn't sound too shabby to me...just make sure that they aren't trying to pad the price elsewhere. Get all of the details upfront and post them here if you want someone to verify. Remember, Invoice pricing INCLUDES the destination charge, so if they try to add it after invoice they are just adding dealer profit. Also, I wouldn't worry too much about XM over Sirius as the two will likely be merging by the end of the year. You could always get a cheap portable unit and plug it in thru the aux input until that happens ;)
  • ortegaortega Member Posts: 112
    FYI...Infiniti updated their website today with info & pricing on the 2008 G35 Sedan model.
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    It's about time! Especially since they released pricing and package options two weeks ago. Been checking the darn website every day ;)

    kc
  • mbhollambholla Member Posts: 37
    Can you tell me if it is possible to program the locks to autolock when you place it in drive or, when you hit 5, or 10 miles an hour????.
  • psunowpsunow Member Posts: 19
    Well, I'm about to join the list of buyers of this great car.
    I offered $500 over invoice for a fully loaded Black G35x w/ Nav, Prem and rosewood. The salesmen said he could do that so we are going to close early next week. I noticed one post that said the invoice price INCLUDES the destination charge. Is this correct? I guess I should know that for sure when I walk into the dealership with all my internet information to close the deal.
  • jennmajennma Member Posts: 40
    Yes, the invoice price includes the destination charge. Otherwise the deal would be $1215 over invoice, and not as good a price.
  • andywattyandywatty Member Posts: 16
    What dealer and what was the final price? I'm willing to fly/drive to get one in that price range.
  • shriramshriram Member Posts: 2
    How much did they quote you for incoice?? According to Edmunds, Invoice should be $35745 ($31221(G35x) + $1853(prem) + $1810(Nav) + $109(Splash guards) + $37(cargo net) + $715(dest.charge)).

    Did they quote you 35745+500 or around that number.

    I am in the market as well. Did anybody buy from DC/VA/MD recently - if you could quote your experience that would be of great help.
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    You should double check to make sure that those are the correct invoice prices as I've heard that they increased the invoice and msrp pricing for the 2007s.
  • shriramshriram Member Posts: 2
    I thought the invoice prices are going up only for the 2008s. Anyway for a similar car, I was quoted $35750 as invoice.
  • ganeshpsganeshps Member Posts: 2
    Plan to buy a 08 G Journey+Prem+Sport+Nav in DFW area thru VPP and was wondering if any1 has tried bargaining on the VPP pricing?? Also does any1 have numbers on the VPP for 08....Thanx in advance for your reply
  • cubbie_guycubbie_guy Member Posts: 2
    Well, I went to the dealer today to see what kind of deals there are for an 08 G35x with premium package and a nav system. The car they had had all of the above plus the cargo net & splash gaurds. The invoice price was 36,069 which included the destination charge and the MSRP was 39,475. The dealer would go no lower than 37,700. This is about 1700 above invoice. Anybody else have any luck out there.
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    There is no bargaining with VPP. The price is based purely on a specific calculation...the only thing that affects your price is what VPP plan you are on, current financing rates, and what options you choose. However, there is no guarantee that certain VPP plans will be available right away, and even if they are the dealer is under no obligation to accept it. If you do a search for Nissan or Infiniti VPP you should be able to see how it's calculated and you can do it yourself. Do you already know what VPP plan you can participate in and are you already registered with Infiniti and did you receive a VPP number?
  • shov8shov8 Member Posts: 87
    Just a heads up, I see that Edmunds has the 2008 G35 finally listed, and they have MSRP and invoice prices for everything. Time to start making deals :)

    kc
  • ruzz1141ruzz1141 Member Posts: 13
    Anybody have the rates/residual for 24 month lease on 08 Journey by chance?
  • ganeshpsganeshps Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for your info.... To me car sales is too dirty that I cannot relate rules that cannot be bent to this market space. Yes I have gone thru these calcultions but they never seeem to match the quote that the dealer provides..Also just found out today the the Extended Warrenty is also avlailable at dealer price in the VPP program. Dealers are allowed to charge 25$ max to this price for documentation fees. I have requested the brochure for this program and will post the invoice price the G once I receive this...
  • sprinkler13sprinkler13 Member Posts: 455
    Yeah...the VPP pricing is very nice since there isn't any negotiation. Really...the only issue is finding the car you want at a dealer that will accept it...and trust me...in the early stages that can be hard to find. I went to every dealer in the ENTIRE state of california when I was looking back in December. It took me a while, but if you are patient you can find someone. Good luck.
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