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2.9% financing for 36 mo. during November.
I think this a decent deal. Comments?
"THE 2008 G37 COUPE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR SALE THROUGH THE VPP PROGRAM UNDER ALL PLANS."
On a related note, they now longer offer the $2,500 dealer cash incentive in left-over G35 COUPEs. I suspect they either are mostly out of them or more likely have made a final "buy down" price on them that is no longer called an "incentive" or "marketing support".
Here are the reported October 2007 Infiniti G numbers:
Model Oct 2007 Oct 2006 % Chg YTD 07 YTD 06 % Chg
G Sedan 3,652 2,771 26.7 45,133 29,573 52.0
G Coupe 1,887 1,397 29.9 13,870 18,137 -23.8
So sedan numbers up nearly 27% for the month and 52% year to date while coupe numbers are up nearly 30% for October but down nearly 24% for the year.
Dennis
superman - i am amazed at how easy it is to separate consumers from their money.
it is never poor financial advice to tell consumers to minimize their debt. there are so many instances of professional financial advisers telling their customers to carefully analyze whether or not they can afford to purchase a particular item (cars, houses and such). They all warn against debt accumulation.
most people will not get an investment return that is more than the interest cost incurred. "dumping cash" usually begins a statement that most salesmen make to consumers to encourage them to pay interest and financing expenses.
my customers are quite happy with advice and NONE are upside down in purchases, where I advised them. my customers know how to differentiate between equity, expense assets, liabilities and expenses. they also understand the cost of money vs. interest income, return on capital, investment income and the like. The exception is that many of my customers can afford to buy a car outright and avoid the interest cost that most of us incur.
A car is not an asset unless it is used to produce income, period. It is a liability...the constant costs of maintenance, gas, etc equal cash outflow NOT inflow which assets produce.
I have a list of books as well to support my position. Every person's situation is different is a poor excuse to advise consumers to go into debt.
I suggest that you practice accounting before you try to give an inaccurate accounting lesson. A very inaccurate one at that. I have prosecuted many certified public accountants for such nonsense and hope to continue to do so, since it protects the public from poor financial practitioners who believe that the general buying public is better off maximizing car debt, rather than buying a product outright.
I am not against leasing vehicles. I only suggest that consumers better understand the choices they make, when purchasing a car. If one chooses to lease, then so be it. That is the person's right. However, they should know that there are other choices to make. Leasing is primarily a lifestyle choice. I have a leased car for my busienss. I also have a car that I own outright.
Dealers overcharge us on a regular basis because we lack the information to get a better deal.
The details say:
Offer is only available to customers who currently own or lease an Infiniti vehicle. Offer is good towards the purchase or lease of eligible vehicles. Trade in is not required. See dealer for details.
The G37 can now be purchased on the VPP plan for those that qualify.
NEARLY any G you want, 08 G37 coupe, 07 or 08 G35 sedan can be financed at a cheap rate:
2.9% APR for 24 months
2.9% APR for 36 months
3.9% APR for 48 months
3.9% APR for 60 months
It is shown on Edmunds that there is still $2,500 in dealer money on left over 07 G35 COUPEs. No cheap financing shown for the 07 coupes, just the $2,500 dealer incentive.
Lease rates are also down in November and residuals are higher.
Dennis
MSRP: $37,325
Invoice: $34,216
I think it's a good deal. The only major complaint I have with the dealership is it took over 3 weeks to get the new plate (bought it out of state) and after purchasing the car in full they showed little interest in getting the plates any time soon.
how do I go back to negotiate it?
strategy needed. first time car buyer.
You can find out the invoice/msrp price right here on edmunds. Starting at the home page, click "New Cars", then "Infiniti", then the '08 G35 and go from there...click 'Price with Options' to add any packages.
If the dealer is offering you $1,000 over invoice (price should include destination) and there's no additional charges or fees (like the $299 Document Fee my dealership charged), I would say it's a good price for an '08 - just my opinion from reading the forum over the past year.
I would go for more of a flat fee - say $500 to $1,000 over invoice for any 08 car as long as that includes any dealer doc or prep fees. The $30k car does not cost them any more to sell you than the $40k car (except maybe floor plan interest) and the hold back is greater on the more expensive car - so no reason to pay more profit on that one.
With the Internet and easy access to "invoice" prices I have notice a lot of cars no longer have much space between "invoice" and MSRP which leads me to think that in a lot of cases the published "invoice" price is not what the dealer really pays in any case - I think some are set artificially high to insure an "At invoice" sale nets a nice profit. We all know that due to factors unknown to us almost any car could be sold at or under invoice and still turn a profit for the dealer, they just have raised invoice closer to MSRP to insure more profit - I think.
That said, getting a new car for close to invoice is a lot better deal than most folks get - less any rebates and dealer incentives.
Dennis
I was about to lease (I know) the G35x, when I saw how dam nice the sports package looks on the car.
Does anyone know more about this. Is the ride different then the G35s or is it like the G35x with just exterior and minor interior difference?
Sport Package AWD
* - Solid-magnesium paddle shifters mounted on steering column
* - Split 7-spoke 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with V-rated all-season performance tires
* - Unique front fascia and side sills
* - Front sport seats with thigh extension and driver’s power torso and thigh support
* - Unique sport steering wheel stitching
* - Aluminum pedals
Should I wait the 4-6 weeks? since its all season tires handling should be fine for the winter.
Does this package affect the handeling and smoothness?
36590 including Destination, but not doc fee (298) and Tax.
MSRP looks to be 39090.
I might be able to get a better deal on an 08? I got a quote for about 36500 but they weren't sure they could do it.
What do you think? :confuse:
That leaves you with the tires. The x comes with:
Double 5-spoke, 17 x 7.5-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with 225/55R17 V-rated all-season performance tires
The sports pack tires should be:
Split 7-spoke 18 x 7.5-inch (front and rear) aluminum-alloy wheels. 225/50R18 (front and rear) V-rated all-season tires
Dropping the aspect ratio can make the car a bit more responsive but at the cost of some ride quality (and the risk of bending a rim in a pot hole).
At least on the x tire or sports pack all the tires are the same size - on the other sedans they are staggered so you can't rotate your tires for longer life.
The real kicker is when you have to replace the tires - I am sure the soft V rated tires will wear out before your lease is up. Plug in the normal x size at TireRack and you have tons of choices starting at $87 each and up and some really good choices under $100. Plug in the optional sport/tire pack size and they have 4 choices ranging from $99 up to $191 EACH. The $99 tire is not a performance tire, just a touring tire. The only other all season tire they carry in this size IS a performance all season but it is $174 EACH.
So pay more now for a little fluff and not much content, then when you need tires you will be paying more again.
So is $1,100 at MSRP worth it? No way I would say. I also would not buy the car without a thorough test drive and comparison to the non-sports x sedan - which you could do if you wait around for months for the car to come in. Your money would be better spent on a set of snow tires and wheels. Looks like about $1,200 delivered for 4 Blizzaks mounted on 17" alloy wheels with tire pressure sensors. When you wear out your OEM tires you could then go to performance summer tread tires and gain more grip than the sports pack tires would provide - and you would have tons more grip in the ice and snow with the dedicated snow tires installed.
Dennis
kc
2008 G 35 X, Pemium Package, Navigation; MSRP 39,975.
quoted $37,495 $ 75 doc fee, + tax,title,etc.
Would greatly appreciate anyone's feed back.
MSRP $37,015
rebate of $2860
total coset = $34, 155
+ tax,
doc fee = $197
+ $358
out of door = $37,101. for 2.9% APR.
Is this a good deal?
From TMV price it appears good, so please let me know.
kc
1. $4,800 down. 39 months/12,000 miles. $419.95 per month.
2. $4,800 down. 24 months/12,000 miles. $386.00 per month.
All taxes are included in the monthly payment. Is this a good deal? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
$3,000 down. 39 months/15,000 miles. $477.00 per month
I think you are paying about $25.00 more a month then I am if you work out the numbers. Plus mine is the G35x.
You'd do better to put that money in a savings account and augment your payment each month with that money. Infiniti gets the use of your money sooner. There is no benefit to you other than the psychological feeling of having a "low payment".
Finally, if something were to happen to your car rendering it a total loss (i.e. theft or accident rendering the vehicle totalled), you'd be out your initial investment as the gap insurance will only compensate you up to the exposure on the vehicle.
Dennis
When my wife bought her Accord we drove to a town in TN to get the particular model/color combo she wanted and even they had a $199 fee; but compared to Atlanta we saved $300 over the local Honda dealers fee, and the car itself was cheaper.
It's like banks and their service charges - sure they all supposedly compete in a free market, but when one bank raises the rates they all do. When there are only three dealers of a particular model in a 50 miles radius there is no real competition besides the price of the car. They all keep the "padding" at a nice fixed price. Even with the abundance of other manufacturers the dealers manage to keep the doc fee high.
It would be great if the fee was limited (like CA for example), but like you said, then he wouldn't be getting a deal below invoice
kc
My nearest Infiniti dealer charges right at $500 for a doc fee, their excuse is that "the MB charges more" or something like that. That plus all the unwanted dealer installed options they put on every car mean they still have a good supply of left over 07 sedans and coupes (last time I looked). But even if they sold you one under invoice, by they time they add the doc fee and some price for the side sticker (3m clear bra, nitrogen fill, wheel locks, wind deflector, etc) you would end up not having a very good deal.
I don't mind travelling to get a good deal and have purchased and leased cars from all over. Telling a dealer to stick a $600 doc fee would be something I would have no problem doing when there are other dealers with much smaller or no doc fees.
Heck, most of the price-fixed Scion dealers locally charge the same doc fee ($300) but one in the surrounding area only charges $250. They told me "you would not believe the number of folks who make the drive to save the $50". Customers can't deal on the car price, but they can sure save $50 by getting it from a dealer who charges a smaller fee
Dennis
I just got this quote on a 2008 G35x with Premium and Navigation:
$36069+Tax(5%)+(299-40 - Doc + Prep)+85(Plates)
What do you guys think? Is this a good deal?
If all it has is premium and nav (no splash and no cargo net/mat) then invoice is
$35,909 - so your price is $160 over in invoice as long as it includes the dest charge. With a $300 doc fee then your net is $460 over invoice for a new 08, which sounds like a pretty good price to me as long as there are no other fees and add ones except the normal tags/title/taxes.
Dennis
I can't see anything wrong with the deal, just hoping the dealer will come thru! :shades:
Dennis
Dennis
The only unwanted options I ended up with were the nitrogen in the tires and wheel locks. If a more reasonable doc fee was $300, let's say they quoted me $34,300 instead of 34,000 and said the doc fee was $300. That puts the pre-doc fee price including the unwanted options at $34,400, which is just about invoice ($34,438 - car had the splash guards, cargo net, and trunk mat). Based on what I had read here, I really didn't think I would find a better deal at this point in time.
kc
Selling Price is
35769 + Tax + 379 (for Title, Tags, Prep, Doc, Plates).
waiting to hear back from another dealer, see if they can beat this.
Invoice was $36,100,
Out the door for Invoice + $500, $75 doc fee in New York! No surprises, no pressure! I had read many posts that the folks in NY wouldn't budge lower than MSRP. I was surprised! Also got the 60mos 3.9%. No regrets!!
The best offer I got for a 2008 Blue Slate G35x Premium, Nav, Splash guards, cargo net was $40,000 total cash price delivered. Is this a bad deal?? It's $800 over invoice but it includes 1 year oil & filter change, 2 years winshield warranty. Any help would be appreciated because I'm so close to closing the deal.
Also, what year car and which dealer were you at in ny?
Thanks,
Dennis