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Acura TSX

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  • tommyijrtommyijr Member Posts: 56
    Man, all you do in here is complain...give it up, get something else, man up!
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    I've been told that when dyno'd the Accord's 2.4 has actually put more torque to the wheels than the Nissan's 2.5. But that's just power at the wheels. We all know the flywheel is where it matters. ;-)
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    Give it up? Get Something else? It is easy to say that, but this is a car not a chocolate bar that you can simply throw in the garbage and buy another one. Cars are expensive.
    This is a place where people come to research cars and expect to find information, good or bad.
    I cannot praise a car that has so many problems, and I am sharing those problems so that potential buyers can make an informed decision. Are you guys all Acura salesmen or something?
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Half of your post was spent criticizing the power of the TSX. If the car is THAT underpowered why didn't you notice it on your test drive of the vehicle?

    And again, any car can have a few first year bugs. You have bad luck. If living with the TSX is THAT bad then cut your losses and move on. That's what we did. We didn't want an automatic Accord any more so we sold our 04 EXL auto and bought a 04 EXL manual. We are much happier now and maybe you would be too.
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    I did notice it, but I did not expect it to have such an adverse effect on fuel economy. To drive the car normally you have to rev it above 3000 rpm, and we are only getting 20-22 mpg. Maybe the fuel economy problem is not related to the revving. If you drive the car and try to keep your rpms down while shifting, the transmission jerks. It wants you to rev up in order to shift smoothly.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    I hear you can get em for pretty cheap now.
  • sjmurray3sjmurray3 Member Posts: 90
    As I posted somewhere ion here last week, this car has plenty of power for the average commuter! My MPG combined is 25-26 three weeks running! I use 93 Octane and always gas from a big name Gas station like Shell/Texaco, etc!
  • scottyt24scottyt24 Member Posts: 24
    Hello-

    Anyone found any good products for cleaning the NAV screen?? I don't want to destroy it by using something to harsh.
  • jrynnjrynn Member Posts: 162
    I'm not sure how jkobty2 manages to get such miserable mileage. I've averaged 28.93 MPG through my last fill-up. (8827 miles driven; 305.139 gallons of gas.)

    I haven't smoked any Porsche 911s or BMW M3s, but the power in the TSX is more than adequate. Just as a rough guess-timate, at least 75+% of the other vehicles on the road are going to be (A) other 4 cyls, (B) minivans, and (C) pickups and SUVs (which though somewhat more powerful are SUBSTANTIALLY heavier). If you want to put them in and keep them in your rearview mirror, the TSX will do it.
  • thepdmmthepdmm Member Posts: 82
    you can say that the tsx (or any car for that matter) is under powered simply because it's torque curve peeks at 166 lbs-ft??? You do realize that 180 is only 14 more right?? People like you complaining all the time can help people find things about a potential purchase.. But your statement is completely uneducated.
     
    have you answered these questions:
    what kind of transmission is it mated with?
    what does the torque curve look like? (i-VTEC!!!!)
    what is the gearing?
    How much does the car weight?
    How well is the power applied to the wheels?
    Are you comparing this car to a V-6 or a V-8 for that matter??

    Have you taken your car do a different dealership yet? Does your car really have these problems or is it in your head?

    To anybody who is worried about the car being underpowered, test drive it. I was skeptical of the I-4 but I was very surprised in the pep, and amazed by the advantage of the i-VTEC technology. HOWEVER THAT IS MY OPINION! I own one now and haven't had a problem with power and I gave up a 3liter V-6.

    OH and I have been running my car hard at every intersection:) and my gas mileage has been 22-24mpg and when I drove it on the highway from the dealership and to show the parents (first gas tank) I got over 30??
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    I think you guys all misunderstood me regarding the power. I am not saying the TSX is underpowered, on the contrary, it is quite powerful. However it "Feels" underpowered if you try to drive it without revving it. If you are comfortable revving the car, then it is very powerful. A better example to illustrate my point is the Honda S2000. If you shift it at 8000+ rpm then it gets 0-60 in 5 seconds. If you shift it at 5000 rpms then it takes a miserable 13 seconds 0-60. This is from a 240 HP engine. I am used to shifting at 2000 rpms.
    So basically, for normal everyday driving it is the low end torque that matters.

    Gee35Coupe: the TSX is my wife's car which she uses for her business (real estate). I still proudly drive my trusty 99 Leganza CDX with zero problems to date, and I might add, less wear and tear than our one year old TSX.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    How could we possibly interpret these statements as you saying the TSX is underpowered?

    "then you will definitely feel the TSX is underpowered"

    and........

    "So yes it is underpowered in the respect that you will have to accelerate always at or above 4000 rpm to get the peak torque which is still only 166 lbft"

    Guess our comprehension skills are on par with your test driving ability.
  • swatikumarswatikumar Member Posts: 5
    hi - i am looking to buy the tsx with navi, auto in the NY area. Could anyone share his/her recent experience with this and give me an idea of what would be a good price ?
    Thanks.
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    I am keeping my fingers crossed. With all the problems we have had with the TSX, they are not as bad as what other people are having. We got now at least 3 Whistling transmissions in the TSX problems forum. One of them is undergoing major surgery, a transmission replacement, on a brand new car.
    But hey, my wife still likes it. And she is going to return it anyway after the lease. So we will enjoy its luxury interior for a while(the best thing about this car), and then we will chuck it away back to Acura.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Welcome, swatikumar. You'll want to check out the posts in the discussion at this link: Acura TSX: Prices Paid & Buying Experience. The "Search This Discussion" feature on the page bar will help you find previous posts about your area and it is a great place to post that message.

    Good luck!
  • iwantonetooiwantonetoo Member Posts: 86
    I test drove a TSX automatic a few days ago, but the dealer didn't have a 6 speed for me to try. I really like the way this car feels and drives, but it just doesn't have enough power for my taste with the auto trans. Has anyone here driven the auto and 6 speed, and does the manual make a big difference in the feel of the car?
           IMO, with the automatic, it just makes a lot of noise and really doesn't accelerate quickly, it sounds like it should be going 60 and I look at the speedo and I'm going 45. Even using the manual mode and shifting at redline, it just doesn't feel quick. I was disappointed because I was quite pleased with the rest of the cars ride, handling, interior, etc. But the lack of power would be a deal breaker for me. Is there a big difference with the 6 speed? Thanks for your help.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    I own a 6-speed TSX and my uncle owns an auto TSX. Since I have spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of both, I'll try to sum them up for you.

    The auto TSX feels to me like a finely tuned family car with sporting intentions. It's not particularly thrilling to drive, and the engine, although a sweet and smooth unit, just never lights up with the auto.

    The 6-speed TSX, on the other hand, is a thrill ride. With the slick, short throw shifter and light clutch, the engine simply comes alive...especially above 3000 RPM. The 6-speed transforms the TSX into a true sports sedan that feels fast, and is rewarding and fun to drive.

    Driven back to back, you'd never believe they're the same car...go drive a 6-speed!
  • honda00honda00 Member Posts: 29
    Does the TSX require Premium gas?
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    Honda strongly recommends premium fuel for the TSX.
  • crimson_mcrimson_m Member Posts: 3
    I'm really deadset on the TSX at the moment and I am thinking of buying.

    I'm going to be moving from northern NJ to the Syracuse, NY area, which is infamous for it's snowy winters. I plan on buying here in NJ.

    Is there anybody else in that region, or any snowy region even (Canadians!) with a TSX who can provide some input as to it's performance in lousy weather?

    The AWD cars of a similar caliber (Saab/Subaru) seem to be priced a few thousand more, and I can't really afford that. I'm hoping that with a good set of tires for the winter, I should be AOK with the Acura TSX.

    Opinions? Advice? Thanks.
  • mulifatmulifat Member Posts: 26
    While parallel parking I came too close to the curb and the outer part of the right front wheel was scraped. The design is really poor as it protrudes considerably from the tire, so you are sure to have damage even for a light brush with a curb.

    Can anybody suggest how to make it look decent again? I am thinking to sandpaper the area so it smooths out the scrape, and then perhaps silver touch up paint? Thanks for any advice
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    From my rather brief experience, I find that the TSX handles fine in inclement weather, snow included.

    Given what it is, I was pleasantly surprised by its poor weather aptitude. It's certainly not a AWD vehicle, but FWD coupled with the VSA gives it a nice tractable feel in rain and snow. Snow tires should help even more.

    However, if deep snow and winter mountain driving is going to be a norm for you, you may want to consider something else.

    Johnny
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    I live in Toronto, Canada, and last winter it happened twice that it snowed for a few days, and snow would gather inside the wheel wells and inside the rims of the front tires. Then when I drive on the freeway, the steering would shake like something is coming loose and as if the car is driving offroad or something. The dealer said that the snow gathered inside the rims and around the tire causes a kind of balance problem in the tires. If you live in northern parts of US or in Canada, make sure you clean the snow from the tires and from around the tires completely before you drive it as it can get pretty scary.
  • boz10boz10 Member Posts: 14
    I also live in the Toronto area and found the TSX driveability in snow to be more than adequate. One thing however is that I put on 16" snow tires. The car was fantastic. I cannot comment on the the cars ability in snow w/o them as I have never tried. I know that snow's are an added expense but when you factor in the fact that you are extending the life of the factory 17's along with the added safety, the cost of the snow's becomes a washout.
  • stu2stu2 Member Posts: 2
    I have a TSX and have experienced the following problems so far: A "clunk" noise is heard when I shift from reverse to drive the first thing in the morning and the car pulls left which the dealer checked and said that the tires needed to "wear-in" before it straightens out. Has anyone else out there in the TSX world experienced these problems?
  • stu2stu2 Member Posts: 2
    I have experienced similar transmission problems and I only have 3500 miles. When in reverse I hear a whining noise (dealer said this was normal) and the first thing in the AM from reverse to drive I hear and feel a "clunk" under the drivers floorboard (transmission problems I suspect), the car is now in the dealers hands to find out what is wrong.
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Member Posts: 621
    If the clunk occurs right after shifting, but while tha car is stationary, it could be a real issue.

    However, if the clunk is heard only after you start rolling, then the sound you're hearing may be the ABS module performing a self-test, which is normal.
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Member Posts: 210
    Whining noise in reverse I believe is not a problem since I heard it on every TSX, including the one we test drove. It is the same sound in reverse that you would hear if you had a manual tranny, which Acura might have made similar just for kicks.
    However the clunk noise could be a problem.
    It just seems Honda is not very good with auto trannies. Just look how many Accords Odysseys and Acura TL's have had their auto transmissions replaced many times.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Well, it's true that Honda has never been particularly good with automatic transmissions. But the fact that the TL, Ody, Pilot, and Accord have each had transmission problems is not exactly proof of that. It's essentially the same transmission having the same failure in various vehicles.
  • massappeal106massappeal106 Member Posts: 26
    Hi all:

    I'm wondering when the reccomended milage is for the first oil change. If I recall correctly, my dealer mentioned that the first change should be right around 7,500 miles. Is this correct? In the manual, it says to change the oil ever 5k miles. Any thoughts on why 5k instead of 3k or 4k?

    Much thanks,
  • mbennett674mbennett674 Member Posts: 66
    I hear that also with my manual tranny. Brought to dealer they couldn't reproduce, but performed a full diagnostic on the tranny and said it was fine. If anyone has figured out how to consistently reproduce this, let us know so we can get the car serviced.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Member Posts: 709
    My dealer said between Thanksgiving and Christmas. ANyone else hear anything related to delivery dat of 05s?
  • kcirredkcirred Member Posts: 10
    Anyone know if Acura will come out with a TSX Wagon? Should be easy to do.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Wagon would be very nice. I hope they gear it a little taller than the sedan though. I want low rpm's on the highway, and I don't mind the occasional down shift to 5th as a tradeoff.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Member Posts: 709
    I called Acura USA and they said the official lauch of the 2005 TSX is October 23, 2004.
  • ponytrekkerponytrekker Member Posts: 314
    If an Accord or TSX wagon comes up, I'm there dude.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
  • proeproe Member Posts: 157
    The Acura TSX -- a version of the European Honda Accord, sold in the United States -- is one of the vehicles involved in a recall issued by Honda over the vehicle's lights. Honda says it will recall 158,187 cars sold in Japan, the United States and 39 other countries to fix the problem, which arises from tape used to seal the wiring leading to the vehicle's rear lights. About 40,060 Acura TSXs could be affected by the problem, which occurs when, after repeated closings and openings of the trunk, the tape and wires fail and the rear lights stop working. No accidents or injuries have been reported due to the problem, a spokeswoman told Reuters.

    What is going on with Acura?
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    and everyone else. No one is perfect.

    LS430 had transmission and fuel pump problems. It's not a restricted society.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    It should be noted that the first paragraph of your message has been copied and pasted from the Edmunds Sedans newsletter ...
  • tommyijrtommyijr Member Posts: 56
    Oh my GOD, I can't believe it........if this is the worst thing that happens than I will be even happier with my TSX than I am now.....Phew, you'd think the wheels were prone to falling off for no apparent reason.
  • indy6packindy6pack Member Posts: 10
    Anyone have a tsx and puts regular 87 fuel in it? Is there a major difference in the way it runs? I know premium is recommended but does it really matter that much?
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Member Posts: 621
    I accidentally filled up the tank once with 87 octane, and the performance during that tankful (actually, 1/2-tank, since I latertopped off with premium), I noticed substantially decreased performance and acceleration and reduced fuel economy. With gas being over $2/gallon, the 20-cent difference for premium fuel is just 10% more than regular unleaded. The perceived savings gained is offset by poorer gas mileage and lower performance, so you end up either spending the same amount or more.

    If you drive 15,000 miles a year, at an average of 25mpg, that's 600 gallons of gas. 91 octane @ $2.20/gal costs $1320/year. Now take that same distance, but say you only get 23mpg instead of 25mpg when using 87 octane. That's 652 gallons. At $2.00/gallon, that's $1304. Is it worth $16/year to run your car at reduced performance?
  • rambo5rambo5 Member Posts: 37
    How bad a performance hit will I take with the 5A? Any links to a professional review of a auto equiped TSX? 0-60, 1/4 mile times? Does a slush box turn this car into a dog?
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    Don't know about turning it into a dog, but I can personally attest to the sharp performance the 6MT provides.

    Others have posted on this board, and other forums, that the 5AT detracts somewhat from the "snappiness" of the car; others love the 5AT, which, BTW, is rated higher for fuel economy. It's really a matter of personal preference. Drive both.

    I can say this: while the TSX has good, solid powertrain performance, it does not have the most overwhelming HP output. I would not want a transmission that in any way saps some of that precious power.

    If you can swing it, get the manual tranny. It's a blast to operate.

    Johnny
  • uncledaviduncledavid Member Posts: 548
    I have the 5AT. I badly wanted a MT this time around, but did not get one becaue I am now living in Los Angeles, and I commute every day in heavy traffic (often, slow moving traffic going up and down hills - the worst situation for a MT!).

    Anyway, my take: like any high reving 4-cyl, the TSX seems a happier with the MT. But, in general, I've found the AT to be well matched to the engine. This is my third Honda vehicle (I had two Accords before this) and I think the transmission in this car is lightyears beyond my earlier cars. Shifts are smooth and the car never seems to be in the wrong gear. The transmission is really slick.

    The sportshift function works well, but it is no substitute for a manual. Not nearly as much fun.

    As for power, I think you lose about .5 secs off the 0-60. The biggest issue will be at low RPMs, where the TSX doesn't have that much torque. In my experience, the TSX feels pretty lively in most situations, even with the AT. At highway speeds, you'll think you are driving a V6.

    There have been a few situations where I had to accelerate from a standstill rapidly (I'm below a car going about 20 mph on a ramp, and need to get around it and accelerate to highway speeds).
    In those situations, I often long for the manual because the torque is not there below 2,000 RPM.
  • leonivleoniv Member Posts: 120
    The only published report I've seen on the TSX auto is in this month's Consumer Reports magazine. They tested an auto and it did the 0-60 run in I think 9.2 sec. I don't recall the 1/4 mile time.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    1/4 mile was 17.1 seconds, tied with the A4 and ahead of the Volvo. Only the turbocharged Legacy did better.
  • uncledaviduncledavid Member Posts: 548
    The 9.2 times is quite disappointing. Consider that the Accord EX 4 did it in 9.0 seconds. So, you're paying for premium gas and the actual off-the-line performance is no greater than the version of the engine tuned for regular gas. The only real difference between the Accord EX and TSX in performance is probably at highway speeds.
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