Acura TSX

varmint

"I wonder if the drop in street prices indicates a slow down in sales, hence the need for advertising?"

YTD sales aren't comparable because the TSX wasn't available for the first few months of last year, but TSX sales have not faltered. Originally, the TSX was set to bring Acura about 15K sales each year. It has sold 14,752 in the first six months of this year.

I expect they have simply been better able to meet demand at the factory, so inventories are easier to maintain this year.

kyfdx

I agree.. it isn't the demand that is down... I think the supply is up..

c_hunter

We just got an auto w/o nav for about $25K which was a very good deal in my opinion. Dealer was hot to sell the car on June 30 (end of month).

Craig

allaboutme1

I spent a great deal of trials and tribulations deciding between a TSX and 325xi. The BMW is a fantastic car and I do believe it is a step up from the Acura in terms of drive ability. That said the TSX is also a wonderful car and one that you can buy for around $8K less. The acura comes with everything standard that if you desire with the BMW really drives the cost up. Based on the price difference and the 25K miles I drive a year I decided upon the acura. I ordered one from a local dealer. My volvo lease is up in mid September and timing is of the essence. By doing so I had my pick of color combinations and delivery dates. I am getting a manual non nav, silver with ebony (i was going to get the red but was afraid i would grow tired of it). I am paying invoice plus $500 or $25,200. Dealer prep and registration cost are $230 plus MA tax. The dealer is also throwing in the mud flaps. I believe I could have gotten the car for invoice if I waited to August 31st, but then i wouldn't have gotten my choice of color, plus i would have the stress of uncertainty. I am really excited about the car. It handles like a sports car, has a tight 6 spd trans and i like the 6 CD 360 watt sound system. I'll relook at the BMW when i hit the lottery. The dealer also agreed to not put any dealer decals on the car and wrote on the contract that they would pass through any incentives rebates or financing deals that occur before I take delivery.

bensmom243

Hi, My husband and I are in the market for a TSX (his) and MDX (hers), can you tell me the dealership you worked with, sounds like you were treated fairly.

Thanks!

allaboutme1

Clair Acura in Walpole? Honestly the information I got on this site is what got me treated fairly. Good luck. My wife drives a Pilot. We have three young kids and it didn't pay to spill McD's all over an MDX when a Pilot is virtually the same car. Then again I am getting a TSX not an Acoord, but I guess that is xplained by my screen

anonymousposts

lol.

If I were your wife I would take the TSX and let you drive the Mommy-mobile. OTOH, I actually LOVE driving my 04 Odyssey so maybe the Pilot isn't that good of a punishment after all.

nautiker

I have been a honda owner most of my life and I currently own an '02 Civic SI and my wife drives an '03 CR-V. I am contemplating buying an '05 Saab 9-3 Aero. I love the looks, performance, handling, and uniqueness of this car. . . and I was hoping to try something "different" than a Honda. After rebates and such, I could probably get the car for around $31k. The only problem is questionable reliability issues. I do like the TSX and have test-driven the 6spd non-nav. It's a great car but I love that thing called torque. Although 166lb-ft is good, do those who own the 6sp find that it is adequate for every-day driving, merging, and accelerating.

I am definitely a performance-oriented driver who loves cornering over straightline acceleration so that aspect is not an issue. In the end I'll probably end up with a TSX due to the price/value/fun quotient. . .any thoughts would be helpful

redkey1

Clair's Internet Sales Manager is great.

kyfdx

The Saab 9-3 will be a joy, as long as you sell it before the warranty runs out.. I believe you get free loaners at Saab for service and warranty work, so inconvenience is minimal. But, if you are a long time Honda owner, the difference in reliability will astound you.

regards,
kyfdx

anonymousposts

I have to agree with kyfdx. The Saab is a looker with a great personality but the TSX is no slouch for thousands less. And while there are exceptions to every rule the TSX should be the more reliable choice.

Another thing to consider is the resale if you normally trade every 2 years or so. Saabs are not known for retaining value.

varmint

Clair's Sales Manager is a decent fellow as well. When the TSX first came out, he took me in the back and let me sit in a car they were prepping just before the TSX was released for sale. He treated me fairly, even though I was an obvious looky-loo at the time.

On the other hand, they failed to meet my price when I bought my wife's TL back in 2001. I ended up buying from Boston Acura.

nyccarguy

As a big Honda fan (current owner of a 2001 Prelude Type SH) and a former Saab owner (lesee actually) maybe I could help shed some light on the subject:

"How long do you plan on keeping the vehicle?" is the first question.

As a honda owner you know the TSX will give you no headaches for the time it is with you. If you're leasing, Acura traditionally has a decent resale value which will help lower your lease payment. If you get the 6-speed, dialing up the torque you want should not be a problem. In my Prelude (with it's 156 lb/ft torque) when I need to boogie, I just drop down from 5th to 3rd and ride it all the way up to the redline (82 mph in 3rd isn't too bad).

Some things I do miss about my Saab. The 185 lb/ft of torque in my old 2000 9-3 Base model (slushbox, don't ask) was great! Many knock Saab's reliability, but in the 3 years/36K miles I owned the car the only thing I did was put gas in it and change the oil at 5,10,20,& 30K miles (dino juice in a turbo). Since the car was leased, I did not drive it gingerly at all. 20 something degrees out, floor it... this car definitely stood up. However, I would be afraid to own one out of warranty. They do have crummy residuals. If you're a fan of the manual transmission (as I am), drive a Saab and an Acura Back to back...you'll take the Acura. I actually preferred the 4 speed slushbox to Saab's vague manual transmission.

s60 2.4

This is my first time in this forum. Very informative and many have answered questions I have had regarding the TSX. I am currently debating between a 2004 Volvo S60 2.4 and a TSX. As for the TSX it will save me about 9K. I test drove the TSX and what a wonderful driving experience it was. The Volvo I liked more, however when you add all of the upgrades the cost does rise significantly. I am looking to keep the TSX or Volvo for more than 5 years. Please offer any suggestions. Thank you well in advance!

nyccarguy

The TSX has great steering and crisp handling. The last Volvo I drove was someone's V70 T5 (sporty model) wagon. The Volvo's seats were great and I liked the layout of the centerstack, but all the drive compontents felt like they were injected with maple syrup (steering, accelerator, brakes...)

comp

The s60 is a great car. And right now the Volvo dealers are starting to clear out their inventories. One of the two dealers here is offering 5,6 and 7k off of models they have on the lot. I think the s60 had the 5k discount. You have to find one on the lot you like but if you can you can save a bundle. The 2.5t is worth looking at. There are some pretty decent upgrades from the base model. We've had one since 01 and it has been a completely trouble free car. Not one problem. Volvo dealers will deal and they will deal deep. The 05's will start coming in soon.

leoniv

For all current TSX owners,
How would you rate the wind/road noise and overall quietness on the TSX? If you could compare it to other makes/models, that would really help. Is it quieter than a US Accord or Camry? Thanks.

Leon

allaboutme1

I am finishing up a 3 year lease on a S60 2.4T. It has been far from trouble free. Probably about 12 trips to the dealer, all covered by warranty but very inconvenient(power steering, headlights, tail lights, rear sway bars, power window, power door lock, broken engine mount, transmission flush, rear engine seal,....)I wouldn't even want to think the cost if not covered by warranty. MSRP on volvo about 7K more than TSX. I guess with a 5K model year incentive from volvo the price is comparable. I have chosen a 2004 TSX for $25.2 K and would choose it over the volvo at the same price. If you want european prestige and ultimate safety go volvo. if you want a great driving car and impecable reliabilty go acura. good luck.

sjmurray3

What is the best way to clean/wash my new car? I know there are new products on the market specifically for the new paint that cars use today. Any suggestions? I've always used McGuire's products in the past.

ser

I was wondering what other people use to wash their car as well. My dealer told me to use a brushless car wash. Is that the same as a soft cloth car wash?

dudleyr

Brushless washes do not touch the car, they just spray soap and water. Soft cloth are pretty good, but some people don't like anything to touch their cars. Handwashing is probably best, but takes time. A small amount of baby shampoo is very mild and excellent for cleaning cars - cheap too.

jomabu1

Hi,

I'm contemplating buying the TSX and am wondering what kind of miles per gallon the 6sp manual transmission owners are getting? From reading other posts, most AT owners are getting 22-23 city and 30-32 highway. Would you also please post the breakdown city/highway. Are there any vises to the car that I should be aware of? I've tested the auto and don't find it as engaging. I love the short throw shifter! Would you still buy again?

Many Thanks

ser

Baby shampoo, that is new to me. Just the look on some of my family/friends as I walk in with that will be priceless. Thanks!

talon95

I tried the new Mr. Clean Auto-dry wash system on my 2003 Accord, and it really does work as advertised. The soap worked well, the dispenser is easy to use and what they say about spot-free shine without hand drying is true. They claim that it doesn't strip wax, and my wax job seemed to hold up just fine with the wash.

I know that this is the type of product that will raise the hackles of the old school, "we don't want no new fangled stuff like this, the way we've done it for years is best" folks... car washing and waxing approaches are like a religion to some people. But I have to say I was impressed. And it has been endorsed by Motor Trend, so at least some automotive experts like it already.

The only thing is that if you hand wash your car often, it might get a bit expensive for soap and filters. I just got the thing so I don't have a sense for that yet.

maxpower02

It will strip the wax or polish off the car. Use auto wash soap only, use a 100% cotton wash mitt and 100% cotton (Made in USA) towels or microfiber towels to dry the car. This will minimize swirls and DO NOT go to car washes. Do you want your brand new car wiped down with a dirty towel that just wiped the POS in front of you??? If you can, do it yourself. Zaino nut here! LOL!

redkey1

Here is my prob w/ Mr. Clean. It works good, you still have to dry some spots and around trim. BUT, the soap and those filters run out pretty quickly. Don't know if that makes it worth the added expense. I also use meguiars detail spray right after washing and it will remove any leftover water spots, plus it does make it shine. I get it at walmart.

talon95

"I also use meguiars detail spray right after washing and it will remove any leftover water spots, plus it does make it shine."

I"m not familiar with that product. How long does it take you to treat the car with the detail spray? Can you use it if you plan to wax the car after the wash - in other words, does it leave a film?

redkey1

I'd say it takes maybe 15 minutes to do the whole car. You spray on and wipe with a towel, then buff with a dry towel. It does not leave a film, it is designed to be used after washing / waxing to enhance shine. Many other companies have very similar products, it just happens that walmart carries this one and a friend told me it worked well.

sjmurray3

Thanks to all for the great feedback on the exterior, now how about ht interior? I didn't go for any dealer protection aftermarket stuff. What does everyone use on the Dashboard and the leather surfaces? Scott

talon95

Thanks... guess I'll be taking a trip to Wal-Mart this weekend...

maxpower02

03' Accord EXV6 Sedan is 303 Aerospace Protectant. It is a little hard to find, but a lot of detailing sites have it. Its a little expensive, but it is water-based, so it will not harm the dash, and it gives the dash a little shine. It protects the dash from the sun and you can also use it on all platic parts in the car. I also use it on my tires, gives a nice low-gloss sheen to the tires, and does not destroy them, like other tire shine.
I use Lexol on my leather, get the cleaner and conditioner, keeps the leather nice and it has a nice leather smell. I have my Accord about 20 months now, and the interior looks as good as when I took it out of the showroom!!
PS. Invest in a can or two of Scotchguard for auto carpets (blue can). Keepss the carpet from absorbing dirt and grime.
Hope this helps!!

redkey1

You can get it at most outdoor / camping places, like REI. If you do a web search for 303, I think they have a dealer list on their website.

jimby

I have 6MT with 3K miles. So far I am getting 22-24 mpg in the city (LA stop&go) and 30-32 on the highway. Other TSX owners have noted that mileage gradually increases as you get up to 12K miles on the clock.

A TSX with a 6MT is the way to get the most out of this car. It is blast to drive and the 6MT is well matched to the engine. No vices to report. I would definitely get this car if I had to do it again.

Since 6MT TSXs wit Nav in the color that you want will be hard to find, you might want to purchase through an auto broker. My broker got me a decent price, plus the color and trim that I wanted, and flatbedded the car to my house. It doesn't get much better than that

johnny420

Ditto what jimby said. The TSX 6 speed is sweet indeed, and really makes the car fun to drive.

I, too, would buy the TSX all over again, after 7 months and 5600 miles. That's 5600 absolutely trouble free miles.

My mileage has been similar to jimby's.

Johnny

massappeal106

Hi all:

I read that the TL's stereo is a Bose based system. Does anyone know if the TSX is Bose based as well?

Also, can anyone recommend good speaker replacement for added base?

much thanks!

jomabu1

I appreciate your input. I really loved the short throw shifter of the 6M. The driving experience is a lot more engaging with it. Was hoping to get at least 31 mpg on the highway. Sounds like that is in the ball park.

Thanks Again

jimby

Nope, neither the TSX nor the TL currently have Bose-based stereos (thank goodness!). Both cars have Matsushita (Panasonic) head unts. The TSX has a 6 CD changer, while the TL has a surround sound DVD-Audio player. The TSX has Pioneer speakers, and I assume that the TL does as well.

sjmurray3

Thanks for the info on cleaning the TSX - I went for the Mr Clean system and am quite please at the results. September, I plan to wax with Mcgires.

sgn94

My husband and I are contemplating the purchase of a new TSX with auto and nav. We are wondering if the 4-cyl engine slows the car down. Do any of the TSX owners who visit this forum feel the car is underpowered? We would very much appreciate reading the opinions of current owners. Thanks.

sjmurray3

I live in SE Virginia and I find the TSX power more than adequate on these particular roads. What I mean by this is that SE VA is flat and not very open in terms of freeway space. I used to live in South Florida and although flat, had a lot of open highway and people drove fast down 95 and 75 when they could. I always said I would need a six cylinder if I stayed in SOFL, but I moved north. A lot depends on where you live, if it's hilly you might want more power. I have yet to drive in these conditions. My old Volvo 2.3L Four banger was great on flat roads, but once we took it to New England and it was straining on hills when the car was loaded down with passengers and cargo, etc. Bottom Line: The 4 banger with 200 ponies is a lot of punch. I let my 17 year old daughter drive it tonight to the video store and she was impressed with how much more pep it had over her 1994 Honda Accord EX 4 Cyl. Hope this adds some meaningful insight to your decision. Scott

sjmurray3

Not sure what you are comparing the TSX with, but the steptronic sport shift although gimmicky adds a little more punch in certain situations and you should consider the gas mileage you will achieve with the TSX four banger. I'm just breaking the 2000 mile barrier, but I'm getting 27MPG combined at the moment. Taking another reading tomorrow when I fill up.

rockyhillnj

Hey all. I'm getting ready to buy a TSX but by the time I get through the process it will be late August. I'm in no real hurry. Anybody have thoughts about what might be coming with the 2005 model year? I assume price could go up (or down), features could be added, colors could be changed... anybody have some info?

johnny420

I don't think there's going to be any major changes in price or options for the '05 TSX. The car has been selling like hotcakes and it's only the second year of production.

That said, I am not absolutely positive on that.

Johnny

mldj98

rockyhillj,

the only thing that I have heard as far as changes for the 05 TSX is that they will be getting XM radio. I seen this on their webpage and also seen on the hondanews.com webpage. I'm sure pricing will be about the same, but may add or delete some color options.

anonymousposts

XM on the TSX? Uh oh. That was the only thing that kept us from wanting one.

94824

I am interested in buying a TSX for my daughter; however, it is so late in the model year that I am wondering if it would be advantageous to wait a few months for a 2005 model. Is anyone aware of what changes will be made for 2005?

bobst

2004 is the first model year for the TSX, and there have been a few problems. If you get a 2005 model, you might see some of those problems fixed. I think you should get a 2005 model.

jkobty2

TSX Power: If you are used to driving cars with peak torque at low rpm, then you will definitely feel the TSX is underpowered. Although it is 200HP, it only has 166 lb ft of torque (A Nissan Altima 4 Cyl has 180 lbft for comparison).
So yes it is underpowered in the respect that you will have to accelerate always at or above 4000 rpm to get the peak torque which is still only 166 lbft. What I found is because of that, this car uses more fuel than a 6 Cylinder. I am getting about 21-22 mpg.
Anyone interested in getting this car, I would advise against it due to the large number of problems I have experienced with this car. If you must have it, wait till 2005 and check back at the problems and solutions forum for the TSX and see if people are still reporting the same problems. If you are just leasing it for a few years and will return it, then it might be ok. But this definitely is not a car you want to keep past the warranty period.

anonymousposts

There are plenty of people who are completely satisfied with their 04 TSX. If you feel it is underpowered then it is your fault for not thoroughly test-driving the vehicle. It's not as if the peak torque rating was lowered after you bought the car and it's not as if the RPM suddenly increased after you bought it. Maybe you should thoroughly test your next vehicle and you might be more satisfied. Also, you may very well have a bad TSX. Sorry for your misfortune but you may have the same misfortune with your next car. However, I wish you well.

gee35coupe

Since the inception. There have been very few problem that can be called inherent to all TSX's. As far as the torque issue, it was also discussed here and other places and has been shown 80% of the TSX's torque is available from 2000 rpm. But hey, you can't please everyone.