Acura TSX

automophile

Our TSX is now about a year old, and tight as a drum. Not a single noise, rattle or other problem - just perfect, smooth performance.

We also have a TL, and although ours is also perfect, there were several different TL rattles mentioned on another forum. All were easy to fix, and all in the same spot seemed to be caused by the same thing - i.e. a window cable, etc. Surely the TSX issues are the same and easy to fix.

boz10

I just recently passed the 1st year of ownership of my TSX. I currently have just under 20,000 km on the odometer. There have been a couple of problems encountered (ie the brain on the security system was replaced and the brakes are about to be replaced for the 2nd time). Other than those 2 problems the car has been fabulous. I still look back at it after parking it to admire it. The pearl white is awesome after a good wax job. I haven't experienced any of the rattles that some people are referring to. One thing that people should do every so often is put a silicone conditioner on the seals of the sunroof. If the seals dry out they will tend to rattle against each other.
   My mileage has improved a bit as the engine has been worked in. I am now averaging about 9 liters per hundred km versus almost 11 my first 3-6 months. I'm sure some of that is due to myself learning that the faster I accelerate from stop the more it costs. I have learned to be a bit more "granny like" from a dead stop. My driving is split about 50:50 city and highway. I know some people don't like the fact that you must put premium fuel in the car but my brother who has a Mazda 6 V6 5 spd uses regular but gets around 11 liters/100km. He gets a cheaper fill-up but I don't need to visit the pumps as often.
   Unfortunately due to a spouse who refuses to learn how to dive a manual I needed to purchase an automatic. I did however drive a manual prior to my purchase. For all those people out there that are debating between manual and auto, if your lifestyle is such that a manual will not cause any friction between yourself and a significant other go with the stick. The auto isn't really a slouch but the stick shift completely changes the way the car feels and accelerates. Sometimes I wish I never drove the stick.
   The stereo is pretty good for a stock unit but does cause some vibration in the cabin at high volume and bass. I guess it's a way for the car to tell you to turn down the volume and keep your sense of hearing healthy.
   The car over the winter performed amazing. I live in the Toronto area and this past winter was an exceptionally cold and snowy one. I put 16" performance snow tires on and didn't get stuck once. the VSA and traction control did an amazing job keeping me safe all winter.
    Pet peeve- why is there a label "This in not an ashtray" in the spot where the ashtray should be. Any moron that would put a cigarette in a spot where there is a fabric liner shouldn't have a license never this amazing car. That spot is only good as a coin holder.
    P.S. I apologize in advance if anyone has trouble figuring out my metric values but unfortunately I am not to familiar with mpg. Isn't it "great" paying over a dollar Canadian for a liter of fuel these days. It's no wonder the oil companies are recording record profits.

decs

Hi, this would be my first post here.

1)I was wondering how the TSX's Navi compare to the TL's (aside from screen size), in terms of performance, features and database.

2) Is XM available on the TSX? I don't believe I saw any mention of it on the website.

3) How much smaller does the TSX feel as compared to the TL (I meant subjective as interior cu ft figures sometimes do not translate to "feeling").

Thanks.

fndlyfmrflyr

Just had a loaner TSX for a couple of days while the dealer did the transmission recall on my MDX.

The TSX is much tighter inside than the TL. I noticed the front seating area rather narrow on the TSX. Both have tight back seats (knee room) though I do fit in the TL and not the TSX. Ergonomics for me wasn't as good as the TL (arm rests too low, placement of window switches, couldn't find the 'right' place for the steering wheel, etc.).

The TSX automatic is a real slug off the line, but does okay as speed builds. Expect a lot of transmission downshifting as you change speeds on the freeway. A/C was great. Handling was very nice. Freeway ride is stiff for my taste, though fine at low speeds. Passenger front seat is like sitting in a hole (rather low). It really needs a power up and down feature. Car would probably be great fun to drive with a manual transmission, but seemed somewhat doggie with an automatic unless floored (My Avalon 'feels' much quicker). With an automatic it needs the engine from my PT GT.

Headlights didn't shine very far down the road on low beam, but they do a nice job in width and making it easy to see at might.

The loaner had about 8500 miles and seemed tight except for an occasional rattle that sounded just like the glove box door rattle in my MDX. Judging from how fast the fuel gauge moved it doesn't appear that the TSX I drove is a high mpg vehicle, but I didn't drive it for economy either.

jrynn

I'd take FrndlyFmrFlyr's comments about his/her TSX loaner with a grain of salt.

There's plenty of room inside the TSX for this 6', 197lb driver/passenger. I fit comfortably in the front and back seats. And for long-trip comfort, the TSX more than passed the "acid test" -- a bienniel trip (driven straight through) from Northern Virginia to South Florida (which is 16+ hours/1060+ miles each way.) The TSX fared as well or better than the BMW 3 series and Saab 900 that made the trip in the past few years.

The criticism of the xenons and of the automatic transmission baffle me. Even at 80+ mph, the TSX's low beams were more than adequate to light up the road ahead safely, and compared to the BMW (and certainly the Saab which truly was slow from 0-10 because of turbo lag), the Acura is plenty quick off the line.

The seating position is just fine for anyone moving from another sedan or coupe. Perhaps for someone coming from an SUV it's less upright. Still, if you truly want to know what it feels like to "sit in a hole," you should check out SLK's, Boxsters, Z's and other two seat sports cars.

The crack about the TSX not being a "high mileage" vehicle because the fuel gauge seemed to drop quickly would have been funny if it hadn't seemed that FrndlyFmrFlyr was serious. C'mon, surely you know that the fuel tank on a TSX is smaller than the MDX's tank. But that doesn't change the fact that in city/highway driving my TSX has averaged over 28 mpg and often gotten over 30 mpg on a single tank. It's no Prius (and certainly no MDX). It's just a 4-door performance oriented sedan that's at or near the top of its peer group in terms of fuel efficiency.

And, knock on wood, unlike FrndlyFmrFlyr's MDX, the TSX hasn't been subject to any recalls.

fndlyfmrflyr

jrynn, sorry if my comments about my loaner TSX rubbed you the wrong way.

Seating position: The passenger seat is rather low. The driver's seat is fine. Even my Avalon has a higher, relative to the interior of the car, seating position. No problem with comfort, just a feeling of a low seat.

Room: I'm only 5'10" and my knees were smashed up against the front seat backs when I tried out the back seat. Maybe you drive with the seats farther forward. Besides, the question I was answering was a comparison between the TSX and TL. The TL does have a bit more room. In the driver's front I found my right knee pressing on the center stack in the TSX, but not in the TL and there was less room on the left side to get my hand between the door armrest and the seat to reach the seat controls. In fact, it was very tight, but I still able to squeeze my hand down to reach the seat controls in the TSX.

Headlights: I said they illuminated very well. However, all three of my non-xenon cars show farther down the road on low beam. Maybe the loaner's lights need to be aimed higher?

Ride: Personal preference as I mentioned. The TSX rode like my PT GT. The older I get the more I appreciate a ride that isolates me from the bumps on the road. Nothing wrong with the TSX ride, but compared to my Avalon and MDX it rides firmly, almost hard, especially over freeway bumps and dips. Some of the freeways around here are rather rough. I don't use the PT for long drives for that reason.

Acceleration: The TSX has no trouble keeping up with traffic from a standing start, but the TSX feels like a slug off the line compared to all three of my cars. Even the MDX jumps away by comparison. The Avalon felt quicker at all speeds because it is more responsive to part throttle input. The PT flies by comparison. The TSX does very well once rpm is up, but most driving is done at low rpm and the TSX needs rpm to perform. That's why I'd love the TSX if it had my PT GT's engine. It has tons of low rpm grunt by comparison.

Like my MDX, the TSX had to downshift on freeway hills (on cruise control) and to moderately accelerate at freeway speeds. This a common situation for many of today's cars. This shifting would not be necessary with a manual transmission.

Economy. The dealer filled the tank and the gauge was well above full. 50 miles later it was at a quarter tank. As I mentioned I didn't drive for economy, but most of the driving was freeway and even though I didn't check the actual mpg it seemed, based only on the gauge, that the TSX doesn't give high four cylinder economy. Based on your post about your TSX mpg I stand by my opinion that the TSX is not a high mpg four cylinder, but mpg isn't why people buy a TSX. I'm sure you are correct that compared to similar cars it measures up well with respect to mpg, but except for handling I didn't find the TSX a 'performance oriented' sedan because I want strong low speed performance too (it would be with a stick). I think of it as a luxury oriented four cylinder and therefore feel much higher mpg should be part of the package. My larger six cylinder Avalon gets about 30 mpg on trips and in the low to mid 20's in mixed driving. Even the MDX has had freeway tanks over 25.

The TSX is a nice car. I like it enough that I am considering buying a one for my daughter.

pat

Just keep in mind you can't judge mpg by the needle on the gas gauge; you've got to do it at the gas pump. In most cars, the gas gauge drops far more quickly to the 3/4 mark than it does the rest of the way.

jrynn

And it's also worth keeping in mind, as you judge how seriously to take some posts on this board, that if FrndlyFmrFlyr truly burned up three quarters of the 17.1 gallons in the TSX's gas tank (= 12.825 gallons) and truly only managed to travel 50 miles, s/he was getting 3.89 mpg. Which suggests that there was something seriously wrong with that particular car. Or with that particular driver.

dudleyr

While the TSX does OK with gas it is nowhere near as good as the larger Accord with a slightly differently tuned version of the same engine. 29 vs 34 hwy for the manual tranny versions.

For all that revving and with the extra gear the TSX only gains a few tenths to 60 mph over the plebian Accord. Hardly worth it in my opinion. Why not have a real 6 speed with a nice tall top gear instead of jamming all those gears together for a few tenths of a second gain in acceleration.

fndlyfmrflyr

Okay, I left out the word three. The car used about a quarter tank in about 50 miles. As I pointed out this was a loaner and I didn't drive for economy. Like HOST says, one can't tell mpg by the gauge. I keep a log in my cars and have found the fuel quantity gauges to be fairly accurate.

The point is that the TSX, like my Cruiser, is not an economy champ even though both have a similar size four cylinder engine. As jrynn's mpg numbers indicate, it doesn't mean the TSX mpg is bad, just not at the high end for four cylinder cars.

dudleyr: Probably because Honda is trying to make the TSX feel more sporty - better throttle response. With the automatic it would have felt a lot peppier had first and second gears been stronger. Third feels very nice at freeway speeds, so maybe a little more third for just under freeways speeds would make for a more sporty feel too. Leaving the other two gears alone would keep engine rpm down and still provide, as it does now, enough cruise performance

mbennett674

A slipping feeling? I usually only happens once when I first pull out of my garage and a make a sharp turn. It almost feels like the VSC is kicking in, but not sure. It's really tough to put my finger on it, recreate, or describe. Before I go to the dealer with this, I was hoping someone else experienced this so I can nail down a good description or a known problem.

Thx

fedlawman

Sorry, but I don't get it...

The automatic transmission saps power from the engine, and really turns the car into a firmly sprung family car. The handling is still there, of course, but much of the thrill is gone.

If I needed an auto trans, I'd probably save a few bucks and settle for a Camry or Accord.

The 6 speed, on the other hand, simply transforms the TSX from a somewhat sedate sedan into a true sport sedan.

BTW, out car shopping two weekends ago, my wife and I took an MDX on an extended test drive (dealer let me have it for a few hours since I bought my TSX from him). I really wanted to like it, and have two Acura's parked at the house. I thought it was very nice, handsome, ergonomically correct, high quality, etc. (typical Honda), but when it came to the drive, it was an unemotional experience (typical Honda). It drove smoothly, quietly, and swiftly...like a well engineered appliance, but it didn't make us want to own it.

We ended up buying a Volvo V70 wagon. This car is beautiful, drives like a dream, has great European ride/handling and road feel, and seats seven...just what we were looking for.

dudleyr

The V-70 is a very nice wagon. I have always liked that Volvo wagons are not ashamed of being practical (squared off backs). I wish Honda made a wagon for our market. I would seriously consider anything from a Civic wagon, to an Accord or TSX wagon. Any of those would have much more versatility than any sedan Honda offers, and much better handling than any SUV or minivan they offer. To me the wagon is just the right compromise between sport and utility.

And, of course, only with a manual tranny!! I like to drive.

hunter001

If they offered an Accord 4-cylinder wagon, I would pick that up in a heartbeat. The only downside to the Accord is the unpleasant rear and that would be cured with the wagonization.

I believe they offer a TSX wagon (Euro-Accord Wagon) in some other markets but it does not look as nice as the Sedan TSX.

Later...AH

ponytrekker

Amen. The outback would be out the back door if I could get this in the states:

members78

omg thats my artic blue tsx, but only in wagon guise!! i love the form and stance of the wagon, its simple yet menacing profile. too bad they didnt offer this last week, cuz i woulda bought one. im one of the few yankees that loves wagon, love the lexus sportwagon, 540i wagon, etc...

dudleyr

Sports car handling, with SUV space, and excellent looks.

Love the wagon. Bring it over here. 4 SUV's and no wagons for Honda. Bring over a wagon.

varmint

Seen from other angles, that wagon is a bit too... ah... "generous" in the rear quarters to pass as a sports wagon here in NA. Given that production volume is already strained with the low volumes they offer, I don't think that wagon will come our way any time soon.

That said, Acura keeps offering hints about the RDX. The latest has it being designed on the TSX/Euro Accord platform. If they opt to go with a design that is more like a wagon and less like an SUV, I expect it will serve the purposes of those who want a wagon and those who want style. I'm hoping for something like a smaller Pacifica or SRX, rather than a tall box like the MDX or CR-V.

rchin

So odd....I been looking out for the past 7 days...haven't seen even one single TSX on the road.
Seen a few 2004 TL tho.

I'll have mine to ogle at when I get it next week.

members78

TSXs are fairly rare in my area too, however I do see one just about everyday. I see a lot of silver, gray, and the occassional white, but I never see my color, artic blue! The TLs are definitely outselling its smaller sibling. I like the TL, but even if I had money for it, I'd still choose the TSX because it handles better, is perceived as more youthful, and is less common. Plus I must be the only person who thinks 4 cylinders is cooler than a V-6. Just my opinion.

automophile

The TSX is still in limited production. No reason why. The dealers only get a very few a month and they sell out immediately.

It was a real toss-up for me to get the TL instead of another TSX. There is plenty of room inside the TSX, and we like the more upright seating. The TSX is taller than the TL.

zmeenow

Now have about 6500 miles on my silver tsx....
comments: Fast off the line? well ..can I live what a car thats 1/4 second slower than a beemer?(can I even perceive the difference?)
milage: I seem to be averaging about 25 mpg 50/50 city,hwy... 29+ hwy
availability: im in North Jersey,and considering how limited the supply is supposed to be,I'm surprised how many I see! Most are silver,or dark grey,but a few black with spoilers.
why limited production? Build demand!! they did the same with the new TL a few yrs back... then when the word got out as to how good the TL was... they were suddenly all over! ..Voila! Now a redesign.. and the price goes up 3-4 grand! Its just smart marketing.
Everyone who has driven with me loves the ride,the look,the smell,the sound of this car
The 6 speed shifts like butter.concerned about status and image?... sure, buy the beemer or audi.. want to be a savvy shopper,and be ahead of the crowd while saving yourself anywhere from 3-7 grand..? get the tsx

kyfdx

Acura reports over 3000 sold in May, so it must not be too limited. That extrapolates out to over twice what they said would be imported to the US.

regards,
kyfdx

P.S.: I now see about two per week, up from one.

phild_mason

I think it is pretty regional. In the central plains there are few on the road and a number on dealer lots. I looked at some inventories and saw anywhere from a low of 6 to a high of 38 TSX's in stock.

You really wouldn't have a problems getting what you want out here in the Midwest...

members78

I just read in another forum of some couple paying 25050 OTD! I paid way more than that last month, for exactly the same car, about 26,300 (including T&T&L). Now I'm feeling ripped off, when yesterday I still believed I had gotten a good deal, arrgh! Please someone placate me and say that that's normal.

kyfdx

Some people include taxes in this figure... Some don't.. If you paid $26,300 including tax, then you have nothing to be sorry about.

regards,
kyfdx

members78

I hope youre right about that. I'd researched this website and noticed the paid price going down over the months, especially since the TL came out. And I thought I had caught the TSX at a time when demand was waning and the price stabilized.

I'm still waiting on a reply back from that couple, so I'll let you know what I find out.

sjmurray3

I arm wrestled for 4 days for my $25,987 OTD price! Tax in my state is approx 3.2% and the fees were approx 388+50 something I think, don't have the paperwork with me. It came out to like $40-50 over invoice. I got 4.29% financing through AHFS! It took 4 days to cement the deal including one walk-out and telephone avoidance for three days, etc! 25MPG combined on first fill up! No issues yet in 400 miles! I'll keep all posted!

kyfdx

That is great news! I know you have been looking for quite awhile.. What was the main thing that made you choose the TSX? I know you were considering BMWs as well.

regards,
kyfdx

sjmurray3

It all came down to common sense for me KYFDX; Main reasons:
1) Honda Quality - A lot of std features and very well built - Great audio for my tastes.
2) Reliability (my 94 Accord 160K - runs great, but passing on to 18 year old daughter)
3) Value - Under 26K OTD (Is BMW badge worth over 10K more?) I struggled with this! LOL
4) Low monthly payment - never paid over 28K in my car-buying life so far. Daughter going to private college in August - big condsideration.

That was the main reason I went with this car. I'm 46 and really wanted entry luxury, but could not make up my mind. I have been looking for quite some time. Lexus, Infinity, BMW, and Volvo were strongly looked at, but it really came down to price and what I was getting for my dollar. The 4 banger so far is more than enough power for me in Hampton Roads, VA! If I was still living in So Fla, I may have felt the need for the 6 cylinder, but I can rarely open it up in this part of the country. I look forward to talking to other members of this board, so let's make the TSX board as busy as the 3 series board!

Thanks to all the members of Edmunds who have given great advise to me over the years! I did find it funny during my TSX negotiations that they pulled Edmunds TMV and presented it to me on a platter! I think it was 26Kish, but I still got it lower. Off to my daughter's high school graduation ladies & Gentleman! Scott

randomoracle

Hi, everyone. I just joined this forum to share my experience buying a carbon grey / ebony TSX auto w/navi. (I will actually only get possession sometime in the next few days since the car is being sent from Sacramento to the Bay Area, where I am.)

The other cars I considered and test drove (and the main reason I decided against) were the RX8/350Z/G35-coupe (somewhat impractical and too flashy for my taste), Forester-XT/WRX/9-2X (cheap looking interior and soccer mom / boy racer styling). I did not consider the German sedans because of value, reliability and image issues. Of course all these cars had some other things going for them but in the end the cons outweighed the pros for me.

The things that did not automatically make the TSX a slam dunk for me was its somewhat bland external styling, being a mid-size rather than a compact, being relatively low on torque and the fact that genetically it was very similar to my existing Accord. In the end, the interior, especially the navigation system, Acura/Honda reputation, and the way it drove, of course, swayed the decison.

I test-drove the 6-sp and loved it but having always owned a manual I wanted a change and the auto w/seq-sportshift did not seem too much of a sacrifice for the added convenience.

I offered $28K (not incl. TTL) and got it at that price. In retrospect I could've asked for a lower price but I think the hassle-free experience made it worth it for me. I am not sure if the forum rules allow me to identify the dealer but I must say the one that I gave my business to was vastly superior to the others in my area.

Alright, sorry for the long post, but I know when I was researching the car, I found posts like this very instructive.

copseyal

2004 is the only model year TSX out to date correct? This was released a while ago in the states wasn't it? Thought I heard back in early 03? Any idea when the 05 is forthcoming, and what changes are in store?

markjenn

The TSX shipped as an "early-release" 2004 model in the spring of 2003. The 2005s are expected to ship at the usual model-year changover time: fall 2004. No hard word on changes, but given that the model was brand new only slightly more than a year ago, I'd expect no changes, or very minor detail changes only (e.g., trim, options, color changes, etc.)

- Mark

kyfdx

If I remember correctly, they went on sale April 1st, 2003. I went to the car show in late February expecting to see one, but naturally everything comes late to Cincinnati (as Mark Twain once said) and they didn't have it.

regards,
kyfdx

gee35coupe

I may buy one. I'm itching to have one since I saw the ones they had on Speedvision Touring Cup racing. I'mm gonna drop it and put an aero kit on it.

pocky

I'm seriously looking for my first car and TSX is the one I'm considering. how much should I pay for auto trans. TSX without navigation? and How to deal with those salepeople? I'm a rooky
Also Is the navigation system necessary?

mbennett674

Nav system is up to you, it will run an extra $2K.

My price before tax was 25,200...others seem to be getting it in that range too - check out the buying experience forum.

I found the Acura sales process to be very laid back without much pressure.

ailmar

I'm currently preparing to sell my 2002 Audi A4 1.8T (4 breakdowns in 2 years/47K miles) and wanting to buy a 2004 TSX....I'm mainly looking for a much more reliable car and slightly less expensive than the Euros since I'm doing ~21K miles/yr but at the same time wanting to keep some level of luxury/sportiness. I thought I was convinced of the TSX till I got to this forum!

Leather discoloration, door vibrations, poor radio quality....these seem to be the major problems. Anyone know if any changes in production have been made to correct these issues?

As for my test ride - it was pretty good but not great (I fing the German ride of my A4 better but I'm sick of the breakdowns and the $3000 repairs!)...I do like the look of the TSX a lot, both interior and exterior....
Basically I'm looking for a strong reliable car that has a good ride and is easy on the eyes; my fear with the TSX is that it will end up sounding like a tin-can after 15K miles.... Can anyone put my fears to rest?

Also, any recommendations regarding leather protectants and exterior paint protectants that will safely lengthen the life of the interior/exterior?....

automophile

We almost bought the A4. It is a great car, notwithstanding the reliability, and I had 4 Audi 5000s in the past that I loved. However, the TSX was just TOO MUCH of a bargain, Great looks, nice performance, Honda reliability and at a fabulous price for everything.

We're glad we made this decision. NO - it's not a German car, but it is getting closer, and it is a lot less expensive, in the purchase and in the long run.

Now it is nearly a year later. The car has been PERFECT. My wife says that she will never buy another car - she wants to keep this TSX forever! We liked it so much I bought a TL instead of a 5-Series or A6, and IT has also been perfect for 6 months so far.

Please remember - you only see the complainers on these forums, you don't see the 99+% with wonderful cars.

I would love to have another Audi, but not until they clean up their act.

pocky

Thank you for your suggestion. I got my first quote for 25,700 before tax but I don't know what's including in that price (like destination, fees, etc..). I'll ask them again and negotiate down. How much should I make an offer then?

ailmar

I was feeling better this morning about going for the TSX and your message was confirmation! I'm going tonight to the dealer and offering $25,500 (including dealer destination but excluding tax). I'm using my Audi as trade in since I get a bigger tax break rather than selling it to Carmax for the same price.
Wish me luck....

markjenn

I wouldn't react much to anecdotal reports of people having problems with their cars. Probably the most reliable car out there these days is a Camry, but tune into any Camry forum and there will be some having huge problems. All cars have problems. The only good data we have is CR and it looks pretty good. As well, Honda very, very seldom has produced a car that is below par. The fact that the TSX is a Euro Accord also bodes well that Honda isn't going to stub their toe on a car produced in such huge numbers.

Having said all this, I'd also hang with the Audi a while longer if you otherwise like it. Cars have ups/downs and these are nice cars. You'll take a pretty good hit on depreciation - much more than any repair.

- Mark

ailmar

Thanks for your comment Mark.

You're right about the Audi if I outright owned it but I still owe 2 more years of payments on it and with the TSX I'll be paying ~$50 less per month and only adding on an extra 2 years of payment - right now I'm getting ~$15,500 for my Audi and if I were to keep it longer, I would get a lot less for it because I'm racking up miles on it like crazy (I do ~21K/year).

As far as the breakdowns I've had with my 2002 Audi - the first one was 3 months into owning the car ($1000), then another 6 months later which was in the shop for ~2weeks (over $4000), then another 6 months later (~$2000), and then my last one was ~1month ago ($1000)....at this rate, I am SURE that it will breakdown again and I'm going to be out of warranty within 2 months. Why keep paying extra money into a car that hasn't been reliable when you can get into one that will be for less money?....Now, all that said, my first Audi (1997 A4) was a DREAM - had it for 6 years/85K miles and absolutely not one visit to the mechanics...till it got totaled in an accident. With that track record, I decided to purchase another Audi in 2002 but I wasn't as lucky!

-Ailmar.

kyfdx

If your Audi is coming out of warranty, then you have picked the absolutely best time to get rid of it... no matter what else you buy.

automophile

Good Luck! Sorry about the Audi problems - they are really good cars, but just not up to Japanese quality standards.

You just can't go wrong with the TSX. I think I like to drive it even more than my TL!

akatz75

Can anyone recommend a replacement audio system (speakers only) for the TSX? I'm not too pleased with the current as-is. I listen to a lot of jazz, blues, improvisational jam-band, and a lot of bootlegs (live concerts). So - I'm looking for something that is loud and very crisp, with excellent mid-level range. Not looking to go crazy with the budget, in fact, I'm on a limited budget. Any recommdations would be great! Thanks..

professor

Seriously shopping for the TSX w/o nav in South Jersey. I want the auto model for the lady. So far, I have an "internet price" of 25,191. Can I do better?

robr2

This morning I saw for the first time an ad for the TSX on television. I had a nondescript sedan chasing a TSX through a "Euro" city/marketplace with the sedan losing it at every corner. When the vehicles stop, a cat jumps out of the TSX and big out of control dog chasing it. Neat concept.

I wonder if the drop in street prices indicates a slow down in sales, hence the need for advertising?

kyfdx

I think that is a pretty old ad.. they may be dusting it off to increase sales, as you say... But, I'm sure I saw that at least 4-5 months ago.

regards,
kyfdx

kyfdx

That is a pretty good price... The main problem with the TSX is usually color availability.. If they have the one you want, I'd be a buyer at that price.

regards,
 kyfdx