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Acura TSX

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  • biker4biker4 Member Posts: 746
    Dealers usually sell pretty aggressivly at the end of the month - could be the reason for low availability. Last month the TSX had a record month - almost 4,000 sold. Honda can raise the allocation (made on the same assembly line as the EuroAccord) - within reason. It is not a sellers market - in some markets the car is going for invoice.

    It shouldn't matter what others think about the power - was it enough for you?

    Try to sell your Accord privately - it holds its value very well - in a private sale - you might not like the deal a dealer will give you.
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    biker4,

    Thanks for the perspective on allocation and the general market for the TSX. My test drive the other day was my first visit to an Acura dealership with this particular car in mind, so their lack of inventory is such a narrow perspective. I'm going to check the situation at some nearby cities. The best I've done with a new car purchase is 3 percent over invoice on a Camry. Invoice for a TSX would be nice. We'll see.

    Yes, I'm prepared for a private sale of my Accord, though I prefer the convenience of a dealer trade. Selling it within the family is the easiest deal of all -- I've been fortunate to do that with a few of my cars, all of which are perfectly maintained and a real bargain.
  • senseless1senseless1 Member Posts: 16
    I test drove the TSX last week and really liked the car. The nimble handling and perfect interior sold me. Consumer Reports rates the TL higher, but the TSX seemed just right for my needs. 90% of the time it's just me in the car and the 4 cylinder had plenty of high rpm power and was fun to drive.

    Am I missing something besides the V6 and bigger interior space of the TL?
  • senseless1senseless1 Member Posts: 16
    I was surprised that the TSX insurance quote came in 40% higher than my '05 Chevy SUV. Besides replacement cost, is there anything about the TSX that insurance companies don't like?
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    It all boils down to what's the right car for you. If the TSX fits the bill, buy it and spend the left over $7000 on something else.
  • bigdaveinomahabigdaveinomaha Member Posts: 26
    I'm curious why no one has compared the 2006 Acura TSX to the 2006 Mazda6 s Grand Touring. They are both sport sedans, almost identical pricing, features, and amenities. On paper, the Mazda appears to have an edge (V6, 18" wheels, 6 sp AT). Anybody out there driven both?
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Sounds like an interesting comparison - feel free to fire up a new discussion! ;)
  • rayjay2rayjay2 Member Posts: 14
    Has anyone heard when the '07 TSX will be unveiled and any information about changes??

    Consider a TSX with the turbo engine from the RDX.
  • bigdaveinomahabigdaveinomaha Member Posts: 26
    Maybe this comparison should be added to the TSX forums page similar to the IS250 comparison? I'm not sure how to do this or if I even can. I'm sure you as the host could do this for me. I think this comparo is closer than the IS250 and TSX and would be beneficial to readers.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Glad to. Here ya go: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring

    Enjoy!
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    The '07 will not see the addition of a turbo option. Full model change for the TSX isn't matrixed until MY 2008. Expect moderate changes to the '07 along the lines of the previous two years.
  • triloadtriload Member Posts: 3
    The TSX is based on the European and Japanese Honda Accord platform, and not the Honda Civic platform. The TSX is not slated to replace the TL. The TSX was made to compliment the TL as a less expensive option for a four door sedan. The TSX offers a lot more than the four door Integra, and was introduced as a new option to the Acura line; not as replacement. Size wise the TL and the RL more comparable to one another. :)
  • socalmarksocalmark Member Posts: 6
    Is it just me? I have had a 2006 TSX for three weeks and the mapping system for the GPS is horrible. It treats freeways that have been in existence for over 5 years as the side streets that they were back then. I have a portable Garmin unit that is almost flawless in recognizing addresses and streets. The interface in the TSX is wonderful but the mapping software is outdated and inacurrate. The dealer has looked at it and said that it is the most current software available and seems to be working correctly but it has taken me waaaayy out of my way several times and I have only used it for three weeks.
  • biker4biker4 Member Posts: 746
    Look for very few changes for 07 - it's the last MY before a new car. There was a fairly major update for 06 (engine, exterior and interior) - don't expect anything like that for 07.
  • senseless1senseless1 Member Posts: 16
    I got my new TSX nav and it's a wonderful car. It's secure and quiet on the highway and great fun on windy roads. The handling is unbelievable compared to those boxy SUVS I've been driving. The engine power is just right; not overkill but good acceleration when you demand it.

    My only worry is that I'm going to scrape up those expensive rims when parallel parking. I prefer more rubber bulging over the rim for protection.
  • robertash100robertash100 Member Posts: 5
    I beg to disagree. The 07 TSX will have a major redo. There will also be a new 2 door coupe version coming in late 07. I also speculate that both a 2.4 four and 3.2 six will be available later in the year.
  • heel2toeheel2toe Member Posts: 149
    Most people think the TSX will get the 2.3L turbocharged engine (along with SH-AWD) with its forthcoming 2008MY update.
  • senseless1senseless1 Member Posts: 16
    Yes, I heard about the '08 re-design, but it's not like the current design is stale. The turbo may be fun, but at the added cost, first year flaws and fuel consumption, it's not a must have for me.
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    You are mistaken on this point. The TSX will NOT get a major redo for MY 2007. Speculate all you like, FMC is matrixed for MY 2008.

    Now, that car may be released in calendar year 2007, but it will be as a 2008, not a 2007.

    Read biker's post. :D
  • chimchim_tsxchimchim_tsx Member Posts: 1
    Thats right....new design for 2008 and targeted to be released in NOV 2007. Actually, Acura is supposed to unveil the new 2008 TSX at the LA Auto Show in December 2006!

    I can't wait...have a 2005 now, and holding out for the 2008.
  • biker4biker4 Member Posts: 746
    We are only a couple of months from the unofficial start of MY07 - you are not going to have any surprises at this point. If Acura were introducing a new model it would be known. Look for the new car to make the car show circuit early next year and as is typical for the Japanese sourced TSX look for a late calendar year (Nov 07 was a good guess) intro.

    The coupe is unlikely for MY08 (and may end up being TL based not TSX based - easier to modify an Accord coupe than modify a TSX sedan) and chances of any kind of V6 making it into the lineup are almost zero. The only other engine in the TSX that has a chance besides the RDX turbo is the 2.2 iCTDi diesel.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    of the TSX club. We purchased a 2006 Carbon Gray 6-speed NAV Friday. It is still at the dealer having the front spoiler, rear wing, and cargo net installed. I can't wait to pick it up.
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    Congrats on the car. You're coming off of an Accord, right? What prompted the change?
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    We kept the 04 Accord. It's a rare car itself. EX-L manual transmission in Redondo Red. We thought about trying to find a used 04 Accord EX-L NAV with the manual transmission but I couldn't find any .. let alone trying to find the color we want.

    So, a TSX was the next logical choice. It has all of our hot buttons which are XM, nice interior, manual transmission, good looks, and it was a pretty good deal even without lease support from Honda.
  • dairyshickdairyshick Member Posts: 129
    I'm still in the initial 'shopping for a car' stage, and I'm torn between quite a few, but this match-up is especially tricky. When fully loaded and having manual transmissions, both of these cars come in around the same price, so what are the pros and cons to each of these. I know the GLI beats out the TSX in a Motor Trend comparison (or Car and Driver..can't quite remember). The more aggressive styling, wheels, engine and interior space of the GLI have an edge over the TSX. However, the TSX's reliability and Nav system are much better than the GLI. Other than that, both have plenty of bells and whistles that make their 'luxury' features pretty even. Does anyone else have personal experiences into this comparison?? The other cars I'm shopping are an Accord V6 6MT w/Navi (which is in the lead right now after a dealer quote of $26,300), a volvo S40 T5, Saab 9-3 Aero (big military discount available), and the '07 Altima has also peaked my interest.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,671
    I think you've narrowed it down to the two best choices.. All things being equal (they never are), you should buy the one that you like driving the best..

    The one PRO that I'll put on the TSX side... It should have a lot better real-world resale value. If you keep the Jetta past the warranty period, the vaunted VW reputation for reliability may bite you...

    I personally think the VW would be a little more fun, but I'd probably end up buying the Acura..

    Does that help? I didn't think so.. ;)

    regards,
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  • heel2toeheel2toe Member Posts: 149
    The torque characteristics -- lots and low revs in the GLI, limited and higher revs in the TSX -- are very different, as are the automatics (the VW uses a fancy dual clutch automatic that has no torque converter power loss). The other thing to consider is that the 2.0T model Jetta is probably more analogous to the TSX -- the sports touches in the GLI are pretty strong, particularly the very aggressive side bolstering in the leather seats, and the suspension seems a bit stiffer to me. Both are really nice cars.

    Nobody really knows how the Mark5 Jettas will age, but this generation at least seems a little better. Kyfdx is right about the TSX resale value being better, but the resale on used VW's is usually better than their recent service history would suggest -- there is an amazing community of VW fans out there. The warranty on both is 4 years/50k miles if I remember correctly.

    Of the two, I would probably buy a GLI because I am a cloth seats, no sunroof kind of buyer, which makes the GLI $5-6k cheaper. For most people, though, the delta is much smaller, so it's back to the "buy what feels better to you" proposition.
  • maulanamaulana Member Posts: 55
    dear Novice,
    Thanks again for the experience. I really appreciate it.

    I have to admit that I have been one of the people in love with the "feel" of BMW's steering/driving experience, but the TSX does present a really amazing value package, and I have a feeling that in the long run (and the short run) I'd be nothing but pleased with it.

    thanks again for sharing.
    maulana
  • novicenovice Member Posts: 64
    maulana,

    One more thing--you won't miss the constant break dust on your wheels from the BMW either. For those of us who are tormented when our cars aren't cleaned and waxed a lot--the brake dust factor can be a stresser!
  • maulanamaulana Member Posts: 55
    dear Novice,

    That is great to hear....

    you know, having a fun practical car that is a blast to drive as well is great...

    :-)

    maulana
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    High performance brake pads tend to dust more.
    Personally, I'll choose superior stopping power over cleaner wheels every time.

    YMMV
  • novicenovice Member Posts: 64
    Let's be clear--I want my brakes to work too. Realizing 'superior' is a relative term, to have an excellent braking system that doesn't blow dust everywhere in order to slow down for a stop sign makes a difference to me. I was merely citing one more difference between the two cars. I've already acknowledged BMW prowess in earlier posts. I still enjoy the TSX more for a good list of reasons--to each our own.
  • novicenovice Member Posts: 64
    maulana,

    Your post makes it sound as though you've reached a decision or already made a purchase? I'm curious to see what you decide, and why.

    Thanks,

    Novice
  • maulanamaulana Member Posts: 55
    dear Novice,
    Thank you for asking. I have more or less made up my mind, although I have not purchased yet.
    I began by looking at a few cars: BMW 3-series, Acura TSX, and Infiniti G35. I have driven all of them extensively, so it was relatively easy to see the pluses and minuses. all three are great cars (nothin' but luv to all who own them.).

    The G35 is obivously the most powerful one, but the steering left me a bit numb, and the 18/25 mileage was also a bit weak.

    I was more or less torn between the BMW and the TSX. If money were not an issue, and if in the long term I didn't care about maintainance costs, I would go with a BMW (performance package, as long as I am dreaming). But I find that the BMWs that give me what I want are the manual, sport package ones. In my area (NC) those are usually going for around 23000 for a used one (2002-3, good condition).

    The Acuras are not any cheaper, although some places are selling a new one for around 27k plus tax, etc. The used ones are holding their value, but it is possible to find one for around the same 22000 ballpark.

    I still probably prefer the "feel" of the BMW but can't justify the higher price and maintainance cost. Besides, I do actually prefer the inside of the Acura as far as luxury. On the BMW one has to get the Premium package to get many of the things that in my mind should be standard on a luxury car.

    So just one person's reflections. Both are great, great cars. If I end up buying the Acura, I suspect that I'll be nothing but pleased with it.

    Novice, my thanks to you for all of your reflections and help.

    gratefully yours,
    maulana
  • exbmwexbmw Member Posts: 1
    If it's any help - I traded a 2003 BMW 330i for a 2006 TSX and, aside from missing the BMW's power, I have no regrets. In 11,000 miles, nothing's gone wrong. The BMW went through 3 window motors, a sunroof motor, a set of brake rotors and the steering coupling in the 2 years/41,000 miles I owned it. It was a blast to drive when it was working, but I don't miss my monthly visits to the dealer. In terms of performance and handling, the TSX isn't in the same league as the BMW, but it's a really nice car, and at $26,500 (in South Florida) - an unbelievable value. The biggest disappointments are the complete lack of torque with automatic, and slightly weak brakes. If you want a BMW, get one - because there IS a difference, but as long as you know what you're getting with the TSX, you won't be disappointed.
  • msheetsmsheets Member Posts: 10
    I recently test drove a TL and enjoyed the powerful v-6, stereo and all the standard features. I was ready to buy a TL until I found out our new car allowance program didn't allow us to purchase a car over $30K MSRP. They didn't want us to give the wrong impression to our customers. (making to much money)

    Now I'm considering the TSX. It to is fully loaded but I'm concerned about the 4 cylinder engine. Does it have enough power or feel sluggish? Any feedback from existing owners would be greatly appreciated.
  • drewbadrewba Member Posts: 154
    I have a TSX auto and it doesn't feel nearly as fast as the TL I drove. It is by no means slow in the grand scheme of things, but it doesn't pin you to the back of your seat either. Supposedly the manual is a much better match for this engine in terms of acceleration.
  • il4eil4e Member Posts: 3
    After test driving both the auto and manual, it's kind of night and day. I would definitely recommend the manual if you are getting a TSX.
  • novicenovice Member Posts: 64
    exbmw,

    You captured my sentiments completely--only more concisely than I've managed through several earlier posts. Though I didn't have the repair nightmares (just a couple), the BMW just left me seeking something else. The TSX has been a perfect fit, for me.

    Novice
  • cpanoscpanos Member Posts: 1
    Just picked up my new 2006 TSX and it has Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 tires. Compared to the Bridgestone Turanza LS-Vs on my 2005 Lexus IS300 these things are junk. Rough ride and won't balance. Anyone else experiening this?

    Any one else have a rough idle problem. As I brake to a stop, the car shakes badly until I have come to a complete stop and let off of the brakes. The shake goes away. looking at the tach, the RPMs are actually higher while it is shaking vs. after the shaking has stopped. Does not appear to be coming from the ABS system. Any ideas?

    Overall a pretty nice ride for the money. Not a Lexus though!
  • mrgold35mrgold35 Member Posts: 73
    I have a 06 TSX and the family took it on its first road trip a few weeks ago. I did all the fluid/air checks before we left and hit the interstate Hwy. I’ve noticed the hood bouncing up/down on the car at Hwy speeds. Not a huge bounce, but enough catch my eye. I actually pulled off on an exit because I thought I forgot to close the hood properly at home. I really don’t notice the bounce with city/commuter driving.

    Have other 04-06 TSX owners experienced the same problem? Is it related to rubber hood stops and/or hood latch adjustment? Wondering if I should take it in sooner or just wait for the 1st service in about 3 months.

    Thx.
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    My TSX doesn't have this problem, but I've heard of others that do. I would guess it's related to a latch adjustment. Just take it in and have it fixed under warranty.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    My guess would be the hood stops. I'd take it in soon. Bouncing around can't be good.
  • drummer13drummer13 Member Posts: 13
    My wife and I are considering an '06 TSX. We are impressed with the build qualtiy and what you get for your dollar. Can someone tell us what the routine maintenance costs (e.g. oil/filter, air filter, etc.) and gnereral repair (e.g. brakes) costs are like...say, as compared to BMW, Lincoln Zephyr? Also, any idea what resale value can be expected? How well does a TSX hold its value? Any and all information would be much appreciated. By the way, I used the quote option on the Acura web site and received two quotes so far. Higher than I like...both +/- $27k.
  • indybobindybob Member Posts: 10
    Does anyone have detailed instructions on how to install the front license plate bracket for a 2005 TSX? We soon will be moving to a state that requires front and back plates and I hate to go to the dealer when I could do it myself.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Our residual for 3 years is 61%. Low mileage 05's still sell for $24,000-$26,000. I would say it's holding it's value pretty well.

    Maintenance costs will probably be less than the BMW but BMW does offer free maintenance for 3 or 4 years on new models. You can have routine maintenance done at a Honda dealer which will save you money. At Acura I would expect oil changes to run about $35-$40.
  • drummer13drummer13 Member Posts: 13
    Thank you !
  • stanwelksstanwelks Member Posts: 35
    I am trying to decide which color to select for my new TSX. I
    understand that this is really a personal preference, however I am also
    interested in any info about the practical selection of colors.

    - Are some colors of better quality paint than others?
    - Is blue as bad as black with regard to retaining heat?
    - etc.

    Thanks!
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    Paint quality is going to be the same across the board. Blue and black are both dark colors and will soak up heat more than lighter colors. To what degree I don't know.
  • delekodeleko Member Posts: 20
    My salesman told me that silver has the highest demand @ resale...but that didn't stop me from buying black. ;)
    I have the parchment interior and, even in 100 degree weather, it isn't too hot. Also, if wood trim matters to you, then can only get it with parchment interior.
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