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I wouldn't expect the TSX to be optioned out with a range different engine choices and drive wheel configurations, let alone body styles (ala wagon.) Acura just doesn't sell that many cars or have extensive dealer coverage. And the current simplicity in the model configurations is actually a nice thing for buying convenience--especially in the used market.
Maybe they will have two configurations if they think it can increase sales -- one with FWD and the K24 and a type S with SH-AWD and the turbo. The TSX MUST have both more power, SH-AWD, and a MANUAL transmission for me to update mine within the next couple of years and to keep me from looking at the 3 series.
"2007 TSX
BUILDOUT - This is the final allocation for MY07 TSX. The MY08 TSX will be available on the next allocation (May MOVE allocation).
The following color will no longer be available for the 2007 model year TSX: Deep Green Pearl (GG/PA). This color is currently scheduled to be offered again for 2008 model year TSX in August 2007, and the remainder of the 2008 model year
Basically, if you believe this, MY07 will end in July, MY08 will start in August and run through next March (two 8 mo MYs) when the EuroAccord and TSX will debut - just like they did 5 years hence.
The main feature I hope acura puts in the next TSX are:
*6 speed automatic with manual shift
*Adaptive headlights/cruise control
*Nav with traffic (Rearview cam with distance marks)
*Rear ac vents
*AC/heat seats
*Some sort of power increase
*MP3,WMA, DVD-A playback from standard cd changer
I hope everything else about this car stays the same. Maybe a taller 6th gear for the manual and the nav deck not mounted in the trunk. At least under the pass. seat!
A personal preference is the Deep green pearl back and different color leathers(bordeaux?) and that rounds it out for me.
-Cj :shades:
Not sure when TSX is coming out. Maybe we'll see a TSX "concept" soon. Hopefully, it is a scaled to normal sports4 with the same looks.
I read other places about the turbo engine; Why do so many people detest the turbo :confuse: !? Its slow in the 4,000lb RDX SUV with AWD but in a small, very aerodynamic(0.27), lightweight sedan i see no problem.
I just hope acura offers both engines with both transmissions and offer the same features in both cars. Still I am hoping they add a 6speed automanual for cruising.
-Cj
When he cleans the garage, I'll do my own maintenance.
And... I would never buy a car with red interior dashboard lighting.
Honda hit a homerun with this car.
The lights on this car would be a $3k option on BMW 3 or Audi A4. Neither of which have the reliability of Honda!
I can't wait for a Turbo TSX! That would blow the competition away! Although I do like the new BMW 3 Coupe.
The Lexus/Toyota IS is also gorgeous. Cant' wait for the new generation TSX hopefully for the 2008 model year.
Hopefully, they offer a TSX in Honda S2000 yellow!!!
Look at the sports4 concept as a tsx preview. HoHonda'styling is coming up! The new accords looks great (like Ridgeline grille meets meats acura CL-s rear meets s2000 front end meets TL sharpness) IMO!
-Cj :shades:
Even in pure highway driving, I haven't done better than 31 mpg in mine. Then again, I've never ran an entire tank out while cruising at 45 mph either.
Hey has anyone moved to a TSX from a 1994-1997 accord? I haven't been able to drive or ride in a TSX yet but i notice that the numbers are similar:
*170hp to 205hp
*137lb ft to 167lbft
*19 city to 21city
*25city to 31city
*both 13Cu.FT of trunk space and folding rear seat
*both have smallish cupholders that should be designed to hold bigger drinks
*Both have "17"gallon tanks but 1uses premium the other regular
Yup, pretty similar on paper but i bet its a whole different story behind the wheel. It usually always is.
As a sidenote, my new phone has bluetooth and voice dialing so i consider it early practice.
-Cj
I've driven my mother in law's mid-90s Accord several times and any similarity between it and a TSX are on paper only. The Accord may feel a bit faster around town with a 6 cylinder engine, but the TSX will have more top-end power, handle much better and have a much more luxurious interior.
I got an automatic and no navi and now wish that I'd gotten the 6-speed and navi. I guess I'll need to wait for my next new car (2012 or so
As for premium, the manual states that it is required. I'm not willing to go against that to save $10 per month.
Or if you are determined, try a tank of each under the same driving conditions and you'll see the difference.
IMO, i would love to get the Navi! I plan on moving about 300 miles away and will be dependent on the nav until I learn my way around. I saw a used TSX with 36k miles and a navi but in black & parchment(my second fav color combo) for about $20k. I left and came back then they reduced it to $18k. The bad side is that the car is 260miles away...
If you do alot of traveling or get stuck in traffic(the TSX doen't have NAV traffic) in an unfamillar area, you can just get off the congested area and it'll reroute your destination. The 2006+ TSX offer bluetooth also. My current phone doesn't have bluetooth so its useless to me;however my speaker broke so I'm 99.98% sure that my next phone will have bluetooth.
My last recommendation if you get the Nav is to practice the voice commands or better yet, RTFOM[for those not following long-term car tests: Read the fricken owners manual] and it give a lot of Voice prompts and explanations as to what they do. Then at that point, practice!
Most motorolla phones offer the voice prompt feature for calling and its IMO good practice for a car that can use voice commands.
-Cj
Finally, regarding ethanol, it is NOT completely renewable. Does anybody know that it would take as much energy to produce corn-based ethanol as it would burn? There are also immeasurable downsides of growing a lot of corn for ethanol beyond energy waste: erosion of topsoil, increasing non-point agricultural runoff, depleting groundwater in some areas, to name a few. Just some fruits for thought.
You can see the family resemblance with the 97 Accord/TSX. After driving the TSX for one year and 14,000 miles, I still can’t wait to get behind the wheel every chance I get. I never felt that way with my Accord; the Accord is just basic transportation.
I agree with you, The accord is still exciting to get behind every time but recent;y I'm getting alot of minor problems. Odometer gave out, not so cool AC during the day(even after window tints), random pops, and a power window that clicks and quits in wet, humid, or cold weather. Thats bad as I live in miami....
How is the AC in the TSX to the accord!!! THATS MY BIGGEST QUESTION!! Do you have nav?
-Cj
Will my insurance go up from moving to an 06 4cyl SE accord to a 2007 Acura TSX? which has the 4cyl. I was thinking about that today, I am like, I wonder if it will go up considering the cost of the car is higher, and luxury car. I wouldn't want to take a hit on my insurance rates.
Also, How is the A/C in the TSX compared to the Accord??
My 06 accord has one of the best A/C's, it is very cold, even in the hottest of weather. Never have to turn it on high.
Thanks.
Go to acura.com and click on TSX. You'll see it there.
...and they'll grin right back knowing that all the savings at the pump are lost in lower fuel millage.
I was wondering if my insurance will go up, due to going from an 06 accord to 07 TSX?
"Instead of watching a 15 minute movie on youtube, you could be spending that time to get a quote with geico..." as the commercial says.
-Cj
I always set my A/C on the Auto setting and to the desire temp. I don’t have to mess with fan speeds; upper/middle/lower vents; or recirculate air/outside air vent functions. Just set-it and forget it. The A/C even adjusts fan speed and temp to the driver or passenger if you have more sun on your side of the car or not.
I just unlock the car (memory seats), start the engine, adjust my mirrors, select my favorite XM station (sweet 62), and go. It only takes a few minutes to cool down the car on the hottest days in NM.
Forgot to add, I do have the Navi and I love it! Life is good with the Navi system.
Pic of my 06 TSX from another thread (post #1):
pat, "New TSX Owner Reports" #1, 9 Aug 2006 7:31 am
The AC in my accord is REAAALLLLLYYYY SLOOW to kick in the cold air. Usually 15minutes then i let my windows up. Then Its still muggy inside and the AC takes car of that. So in total, it takes about 20minutes to get the car cool. But I have to keep it on 2 and turned to the far left for "max" coolness. And all of this is with a sunshade, sunroof closed, and tinted windows.
I don't know what my tint % is but you can see them on my carspace. I'm glad I didn't get the black accord!!
My hero you are!! I soooo can't wait to get a TSX. But if i grow anymore, I may have to get an MDX so says my dad...
6'1. At least my car is worth $7k on KBB. A bit less than my dads 03expedition but more than my sisters millenia(both with great ACs i admit). So thats less $$$ to come up with when pouncing on a TSX or MDX!
BTW, how are the Voice commands for the nav? I've been in a TSX before but it didn't have nav. I imagine that if i got a tsx with no tint or sunshade, that voice command would be the best thing because I'd hate to touch glass thats been baking in the sun...
-Cj ps, Thanks sooo much for your answers!! I look forward to reading them. Its almost like an Edmunds long-term test but without the pictures....
The Mic for the voice commands is located by the rear view mirror. You have to turn down the radio, roll up the windows, and speak very clearly into the mic. Usually, about 30%-50% of the voice commands are not interpreted correctly and you have to repeat. It is still a good system, pressing buttons is way faster with less errors. Downside to pressing buttons is having to take your eyes off the road.
The touch screen is the absolute best feature on the Navi. You can touch the screen or use the joystick to navigate and select located below the screen. I could live without the voice command; but not the touch screen.
s voice system. It was at a used car selloff. I said "Find nearest restraunt" it responded with "Climate control off" Then I remember trying to say "Climate control on"; and it responded with "Radio Off" plus the knob/joystick wasn't helping much either... I thought it was hilarious but I can see where it can be annoying. :sick:
Dudleyr, I have a 1995 accord ex v6. The main reason i want the TL is because of the similar hp numbers. from 170hp to 205hpSAE. From 19city/27highway mpg to much higher if the revs are kept below 3k rpm.
-Cj Do you wash your own car? If so do you have a favorite wax?
Just a side note. I just returned from a roundtrip between Washington DC to Providence, RI (taking daughter to her summer program). There were three of us (wife, daughter, and me, with daugther's stuff) in a 2005 Honda Civic LX (not the hybrid version, just the regular LX) with A/C on all the way. I experimented with some advice I read about from the internet, and kept the speed on cruising at 60-65 mpg for mostly freeway driving. I ended up with 45 mpg(!) and did NOT get the middle finger greetings from others by driving too "slowly" on the Jersey Turnpike.
The bottom line is: if you have a TSX and would like to get "wild" every now and then, go ahead to fill your tank with premium (actually mid-grade premium is good enough, you would NEVER, EVER, need the top supreme grade) and drive your TSX like a sports car.
Background: Most auto manufacturers made tremendous progress in engine fuel efficiency in the past two decades. However, the increase in engine fuel efficiency has been largely offset by ever larger engine displacements. Many drivers are buying into the hype of performance so almost all luxury cars are selling for the horsepower, speed, etc. In order to do that, higher octane gasoline would help burn gasoline quickly if one wants to have the 0-60 performance of less than, say 6-7 seconds.
If you are the type who are perfectly ok with normal driving/acceleration, there is no need to use high octane gasoline.
This is a free country, people are free to choose whatever they feel like it. When gasoline prices were a lot cheaper just a few years back, people probably didn't feel like they need to save a few dollars here and there. But given the gasoline price over $3 now, it DOES "save" if people know about the difference between regular vs. premium.
Incidentally, Virginia (where I live) will start charging aggressive drivers a very steep charge for speeding. If one got a speeding ticket for 20 mph over the posted speed limit, he/she could get over a thousand dollars over three years in fines to fund the highway budget. I am NOT kidding, and it's for real and starting July 1, 2007.
It is the knock sensor that allows you to run your TSX with 87 or 89 octane fuel without damage.
Unfortunately, a side-effect of running an engine with retarded timing is not only reduced horsepower, but also reduced fuel economy.
If 91 octane fuel yields an average of 25 MPG, you will only need 50 (12 gallon) fill-ups to cover 15,000 miles. At $3.20/gallon, you will pay $1920.
If you drive under the same conditions on 87 octane gasoline and retarded ignition timing causes a 2 MPG average drop in fuel economy (23 MPG average), you will need 54 (12 gallon) fill-ups to cover 15,000 miles. At $3.00/gallon, you will pay $1944 - an additional $24.
Your car is designed to perform best on premium fuel. Premium fuel also often contains added detergents that keep your engine cleaner and healthier longer. Premium fuel costs only $0.20/gal more than regular fuel. Do the math.
Drive on...