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- High altitudes
- Close to max weight
- Continuous High speeds (+75 mph)
- Max accelerations
- i-VTEC engagements
- Hilly/mountainous terrain
If you drive the TSX like a Blue haired old lady in a Buick, then regular is perfectly fine. There really will not be much of a difference in gas mileage UNTIL you up the performance. Then you will see a drop in performance and mileage using 87 octane.
The key to using lower octane is to drive the car at about 50-75% of its capabilities to get the benefits of saving $2 at the pump at each fill-up.
Certainly people should do what they feel is best for them, but I've never found a reason to think that an automobile manufacturer doesn't know best how its cars should be treated.
Hey hll7575 - where are you in Virginia, if you don't mind me asking? I'm in Norfolk.
Boy I am still up in the air about this car.
Thought from about 50 to 80 car was slow, could not get it to kick down into a lower gear, perhaps did not press hard enough on the pedal, not sure. Did not mess with the autostick.
Thought highspeed merge on a short onramp was also slow.
Bumps at high speed were rock hard.
I really love the outside looks and the quality interior of this car,especially the blue dash lights. Like the size/price/options and it has a real key.
Drove back to back with an 07 3.5 Altima, which had effortless power, no merge problems.
This is difficlut, may need to also wait for the 08 Accord.
Old Mike
However, it is important to realize that such an adjustment will need to be made only under a subset of the operating conditions. In other words, many drivers will not see these conditions. Unless we know what the subset is, and what the actual effects are, we can't say for sure what the overall affect on fuel economy will be. Lower octane gas actually contains more energy per volume, so it is possible that for most drivers under most operating conditions, that they will see a fuel economy increase, but I don't have enough info to make that assertion.
Where I live at ~5000 feet above sea level, 87 octane gas would likely never force the engine to retard the timing. In fact, where I live, they sell 85 octane gas as "regular." 87 is the mid grade and 91 is "premium".
The lower energy by volume is what allows the compression ratio to be bumped up for higher performance. With a high compression engine, you litterally get "more bang for the buck" with 91 octane gas.
In my opinion, If I wanted to save 20 cents at the pump and spent the vast majority of my time on the highway, I would have saved $10,000 and bought an Accord.
Let me rephrase that since the 2008 tsx is already out. Will the next TSX get an up graded I4(210hp?) and the RDX's 2.3l Turbo with 250hp and 270lbs ft? Not to mention the 2.2l CTDI diesel engine....
That on the Sports4 is to die for... :P
-Cj
So, forget the ugly Altima and uglier Accord, look at a Mazda 6.
Our 06 TSX has really spoiled us with its luxury appointments, technology, fit/finish, and balance of power/economy compared to the Mazda I-4 (didn’t want the Ford V-6). The TSX isn’t really that much more $$$ compared to a similarly equip Mazda. Unfortunately, the Mazda resell value doesn’t come close to the TSX down the road.
We decided to keep the Accord and wait on the all new TL/TSX down the road or reconsider the RDX if they make a few improvements.
At least with the auto, it certainly isn't fast off the line, especially if you're comparing to an Altima with a V6.
I am looking for an aftermarket ANC system that could perform the same function of noise cancellation using the existing car speakers. Btw, I am planning to get this for my 2007 TSX.
Let me know if anyone of you knows of any website/shop that sells this kind of system.
That was my point exactly. Therefore you and I have no idea what effect running regular or mid-grade is having. In all probability, the timing is not being retrarded a great majority of the time and during this time, there is no downside. Also, if you don't live at sea level in a warm climate then you don't need as high of an octane level. Add to that the fact that the octane level is underrepresented in the pump number, and the "need" for premium in a normally aspirated mid-compression engine is dubious at best.
Also, the lower flash point of the higher octane gasoline is what allows a higher compression ratio.
Which is exactly why I follow the manufacturers recommendation and pay the extra 20 cents.
Superior engine performance, optimum economy/emissions, and added detergents to prevent/clean deposits on injectors, valves, etc. It's worth it to me.
The TSX was the ideal "sport/luxury" sedan for me when I bought it in 2003.
Fortunately, I made the mistake of taking my TSX to a high performance driving school - and I caught the bug. After I had a couple schools under my belt and my driving skills had significantly improved, I became dissatisfied with the TSX's sporting capabilities. Rather than invest in aftermarket performance parts and try to make the TSX into a sports car, I decided to replace the TSX with a RWD car with more "sport" and less "luxury" (weight).
I sold my TSX back to the dealer after 2 years and 18,000 miles, and bought a BMW.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
nj - I also have a thing for the Z4. The M Coupe in particular.
-CJ
Regardless of which i pick, they all need premium.... :sick:
-Cj
-Cj
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Thanks.
Does anyone know how to turn on Just the Fog Lights ?
The Parking Lights & Fog LIghts?
Or do the fog lights only work when headlights are full on ?
...Bueller ?, Anyone ?
I know cross-posting is discouraged, so I won't repeat that post here.
However, what do you think the relative impact of the 2008 Accord and TSX full model change coming this spring will be on TSX pricing?
That is, is my best buying opportunity right now, after the 2008 Accord is out, or as we get closer to the TSX model change? TSX prices seem pretty good right now, and 07 Accords are being discounted very aggressively in advance of the 2008 release.
Similarly, do you think TSX prices will be even lower this winter/spring in advance of the model change, or are we as about as low as we'll see?
I know no one has a crystal ball, but I appreciate your thoughts.
But since that wont help much, I think it depends on what you want as they are 3 pretty different cars. '07 Honda, workhorse sedan, somewhat larger and softer handling than TXS. '08 TSX - nice, amenity rich small luxury sedan with pretty good handling and economy. '08 Accord, "Full Size" sedan, notably larger now than TSX and '07 Accord. Handling is unknown but styling is improved (IMO-Pictures).
If you've decided on buying the TSX, I think the economy and the subprime mortgage dust up is going to impact auto sales this fall and some dealers are going to be hungry since they don't have much different to offer until Spring '08 when the redesigned '09 MY TSX is released.
Same goes for the New '08 Accord, but less so. The people who are waiting for the new model will make their buys this autumn and winter may be attractive. Beware of First Year gremlins.
But don't wait too long on either of these, the sub-prime stuff will un-wind itself sooner or later.
As for '07 Accords, then buy now while you can find some dealer holding what you want on the lot. Selection for Aug/Sept probably Pretty Good but not getting better... If you are not picky on color, etc, then wait it out a bit longer, perhaps.
- Refreshed styling (upgraded bumpers, taillights, add fog lights, revised rims, interior upgrades, etc..)
- Added features (updated Navi, safety features, Bluetooth, XM radio, extra HP, etc..)
- Corrected technical issues from earlier models (rattles, electrical, mechanical issues)
- Additional colors choices
- Additional incentives or availability to purchase at a lower price
- Added Type-S, SE, and coupe options (I've heard of a TSX convertible by 2012)
- Ability to read the pos/neg feedback for 2 years of 1st and 2nd model year owners on forums like this
I will not consider replacing my 06 TSX until the 2011 TSX is released. I will also consider the RDX, TL and MDX at the same time because they will also be right in the middle/end of model cycle. I’ve never felt comfortable purchasing the 1st or 2nd model year of a car.
What's New for 2005
Acura adds XM Satellite Radio, heated door mirrors and a four-way power passenger seat to the standard features list. The steering wheel-mounted audio and cruise controls are now illuminated
What's New for 2006
The Acura TSX receives minor engine, feature and styling changes for 2006. The car's 2.4-liter, four-cylinder engine has been modified to produce a bit more power; it now makes 205 horsepower and 164 lb-ft of torque. Inside, there is an upgraded optional navigation system that's faster, has more points of interest and includes access to a Zagat restaurant guide. A hands-free cell phone interface and a digital audio media auxiliary jack are also new. Exterior enhancements for the 2006 Acura TSX include redesigned front and rear fascias, new side sills, foglamps and new alloy wheels.
What's New for 2007
Nearly at the end of its life cycle, the Acura TSX adds a tire-pressure monitoring system to its already long list of standard safety equipment
Wondering if any of you TSX owners (especially with auto trans) moved from a torquey V6 and, if so, how did you adjust to the lack of low end torque on the TSX? (Btw, I love everything else about the car).
The TSX felt like a small v-6 to me coming from my 97 2.2L Accord LX 4dr with 130hp. To tell the truth, I would have purchased a V-6 TSX if that was an engine option available. Because of the tremendous value of the TSX, the lack of a V-6 did not make me look else where. I would have given up too many standard features not found at this price point from other car makers. With my driving habits, I only need a v-6 about 5% of the time; but, I need the extra fuel economy 95% of the time.
Once averaged 41 mpg at 60 mph for +60 miles with the 5AT TSX. I also average 350-400 miles per tank with combined city driving and 425-475 miles per tank on hwy driving. I couldn't do that in a v-6.
It is tough, I really love the TSX but there are days where it just feels like the car is slow off the line. It's a trade off, but I'd do it again, everything else about the car is great. Personally I only find there's an issue from a stop, the engine makes great power over 2500 rpm, hence once moving I don't miss the power of the Max.