2015 Mercedes S-Class Lease Questions

kyfdx

themisn said:

Does anyone know the current mf and residual on a 15 s550 4matic , 20k miles/yr, 36 months?

.00051 MF and 48% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.

Residual will be reduced for the extra 15K miles over the 15K/yr number, but not sure how much per/mile on an S-Class.. possibly $0.30/mi.

dteeking

Do prior model year residuals historically go down in November? For example, did the 30 and 36 month residuals on 2014's drop significantly last November as the 2015's were being released to dealers? Thanks.

kyfdx

dteeking said:

Do prior model year residuals historically go down in November? For example, did the 30 and 36 month residuals on 2014's drop significantly last November as the 2015's were being released to dealers? Thanks.

We don't keep track of history..

But, at some point, lease deals on the prior model year stop being offered. There is no crystal ball to see what might happen, next month.

sfmark

Looking for MF/RV for the S550 coupe for 36 months 10K/12K. Is there a "sweet spot" for these cars? Thanks.

Michaell

sfmark said:

Looking for MF/RV for the S550 coupe for 36 months 10K/12K. Is there a "sweet spot" for these cars? Thanks.

Standard MF and 52% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10K

sfmark

Is the MF .00095 or .00051?

Michaell

sfmark said:

Is the MF .00095 or .00051?

For the coupe, it's the standard MF. Around .00200-.00220

SDKath

Quick question. My special order 2016 s550 arrived at the dealer ($118k config). Should I wait the 1 week till November for better rates? Or is there minimal change usually on the next year's cars from month to month this time of year? I am planning on a 3y lease, 12,000mi, minimal down. Thanks for all the help.

kyfdx

SDKath said:

Quick question. My special order 2016 s550 arrived at the dealer ($118k config). Should I wait the 1 week till November for better rates? Or is there minimal change usually on the next year's cars from month to month this time of year? I am planning on a 3y lease, 12,000mi, minimal down. Thanks for all the help.

.00104 MF and 51% residual.

Not a great lease program, but typical for that class of vehicle.
I really have no idea what might happen next month, but it seems doubtful that the program would change much. It is the same as September.

But, you have something to lose if it does get worse, as you have ordered your car and you are getting it, no matter what. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance, but it's not my money.

Usually, a dealer will push you to complete the deal by month end, if your car is in and ready to go.

malrosh

What would be the November MF and residual on a 2015 S550 4Matic lease for 25000 miles per year for 36 months.

kyfdx

malrosh said:

What would be the November MF and residual on a 2015 S550 4Matic lease for 25000 miles per year for 36 months.

.00051 MF and 48% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.

Check with a dealer for what kind of residual they can give you for 25K/yr.

samcanas

Does anyone know the latest terms for an s550 coupe?  36 months with 15,000 miles. Msrp 140,000 sale price 130,000. Being quoted a residual of 68000 with MF of .0003. Thank you. 

Michaell

samcanas said:

Does anyone know the latest terms for an s550 coupe?  36 months with 15,000 miles. Msrp 140,000 sale price 130,000. Being quoted a residual of 68000 with MF of .0003. Thank you. 

Standard MF (.00200-.00220) and 50% for 2015 S550 Coupe

jewcjew

Went to local dealer hear and wanted to see if this is a good deal...
2015 s550 designo mocha black 
porcelain/black nappa leather
premium 1 package active ventilated
Amg sport package 
head up display
501 surround view camera
black poplar wood trim
driver assistance package 
MSRP : $116245
SALE PRICE : $101645
36 month lease 10k/yr
3500 drive off 51% residual MF 0.00067
$1400 monthly payment INC TAX 

Also have another option of putting $13500 deposit and get it back st end of lease this would drop the payments to $1319 a month with $3400 down and MF of 0.00021 
please let me know if this is a good deal and if i could push for a bit more??

kyfdx

jewcjew said:

Went to local dealer hear and wanted to see if this is a good deal...
2015 s550 designo mocha black 
porcelain/black nappa leather
premium 1 package active ventilated
Amg sport package 
head up display
501 surround view camera
black poplar wood trim
driver assistance package 
MSRP : $116245
SALE PRICE : $101645
36 month lease 10k/yr
3500 drive off 51% residual MF 0.00067
$1400 monthly payment INC TAX 

Also have another option of putting $13500 deposit and get it back st end of lease this would drop the payments to $1319 a month with $3400 down and MF of 0.00021 
please let me know if this is a good deal and if i could push for a bit more??

.00047 MF and 51% residual. So, they are marking up the MF a little bit.

No experience with negotiating a $100K+ car, so can't tell you if the price is good.

The MSD program is a good idea to save money. But, I'd try to negotiate for the base rate of .00047, then use the MSD program. If you are starting from .00047, you shouldn't need as big of a deposit to drop the rate to the minimum.

lambusser

Hi...

I was wondering how the RV and MF on a 2016 S550 Coupe compare to the numbers on the 2015 S550 Coupe mentioned above?

Also, I'm looking at a 2015 S550 Coupe with a MSRP of $152k (almost every feature). What ballpark discount should be fair for that vehicle?

Thank you,
Lam

Michaell

lambusser said:

Hi...

I was wondering how the RV and MF on a 2016 S550 Coupe compare to the numbers on the 2015 S550 Coupe mentioned above?

Also, I'm looking at a 2015 S550 Coupe with a MSRP of $152k (almost every feature). What ballpark discount should be fair for that vehicle?

Thank you,
Lam

2016 S550 Coupe 36/10 - standard MF (.00200-.00220) and 54%

No idea what kind of discounting would be available.

909motoring

Hi there, I'm currently in the market to Lease a 2016 Mercedes S550 Sedan rwd or 4matic. I am looking to do 36/10 or 36/12 does anyone have money factor & residual on both vehicle would Appreciate any info Thank you.

kyfdx

909motoring said:

Hi there, I'm currently in the market to Lease a 2016 Mercedes S550 Sedan rwd or 4matic. I am looking to do 36/10 or 36/12 does anyone have money factor & residual on both vehicle would Appreciate any info Thank you.

RWD: .00104 MF
AWD: .00107 MF

52%/51% residual on either model

909motoring

kyfdx said:

909motoring said:

Hi there, I'm currently in the market to Lease a 2016 Mercedes S550 Sedan rwd or 4matic. I am looking to do 36/10 or 36/12 does anyone have money factor & residual on both vehicle would Appreciate any info Thank you.

RWD: .00104 MF
AWD: .00107 MF

52%/51% residual on either model

Thank you Really Appreciate

datbenzboy

Just made a sick deal on a 2015

111,365 msrp
Selling price 92,000
0.00058
52% residual
36 months
795 acquisition
75 transfer plates
$275 doc fee

1,120 payments.

Happy holidays!


My dealer is seriously, the boss.

kyfdx

datbenzboy said:

Just made a sick deal on a 2015

111,365 msrp
Selling price 92,000
0.00058
52% residual
36 months
795 acquisition
75 transfer plates
$275 doc fee

1,120 payments.

Happy holidays!


My dealer is seriously, the boss.

Congrats... looks good.

dteeking

Picked up a 2015 S550 4matic 30 month / 10K miles per year single pay lease
MF = .00001 and residual = 58%
MSRP: $116,860 with 2 year prepaid maintenance

Total of all payments: $34,497, including upfront fees and early turn in of 2014 E350 lease
Averages $1149.90 per month based on 30 months

Michaell

dteeking said:

Picked up a 2015 S550 4matic 30 month / 10K miles per year single pay lease
MF = .00001 and residual = 58%
MSRP: $116,860 with 2 year prepaid maintenance

Total of all payments: $34,497, including upfront fees and early turn in of 2014 E350 lease
Averages $1149.90 per month based on 30 months

Solid deal on a great car!

Enjoy your new S550...

nickos

hi guys. would like to know mf and residual of 2015 s550 4matic and 2016's . both 24 months and 7500 miles per year. thanks. in nyc

kyfdx

nickos said:

hi guys. would like to know mf and residual of 2015 s550 4matic and 2016's . both 24 months and 7500 miles per year. thanks. in nyc

2015: .00051 MF and 60% residual
2016: .00107 MF and 64% residual

drewpark21

Hi,

What is the money factor + residual for a 2015 and 2016 S550 for a 15K/36 month lease?

Thanks!

kyfdx

drewpark21 said:

Hi,

What is the money factor + residual for a 2015 and 2016 S550 for a 15K/36 month lease?

Thanks!

2015: .00047 MF and 48% residual
2016: .00104 MF and 49% residual

vip93330

Can I please have the residual for both a 2015 sedan and coupe for 12k for 24 or 36 months.

Trying to swing an end of year deal.

I also want to confirm that the MF for a one pay lease is 0.00001.

Thank you.

Michaell

vip93330 said:

Can I please have the residual for both a 2015 sedan and coupe for 12k for 24 or 36 months.

Trying to swing an end of year deal.

I also want to confirm that the MF for a one pay lease is 0.00001.

Thank you.

RWD or AWD for the sedan? MF is different. Residual is the same at 58% / 50%

Coupe is standard MF and 62% / 52%

vip93330

Michaell,

i am looking for AWD, if available, let me also have 30 months please.

Thank you

Michaell

vip93330 said:

Michaell,

i am looking for AWD, if available, let me also have 30 months please.

Thank you

.00051 MF on S550 4Matic sedan.

30 month residual is 54% for the sedan and 56% for the coupe.

delidude50

datbenzboy said:

Just made a sick deal on a 2015

111,365 msrp
Selling price 92,000
0.00058
52% residual
36 months
795 acquisition
75 transfer plates
$275 doc fee

1,120 payments.

Happy holidays!


My dealer is seriously, the boss.

That's an awesome deal--is that including tax or excluding? Negotiating now.

delidude50

Okay need some help on year end deal.

2015 S Class :

MSRP 109355
Sell Price 96,855
Residual- 54677
36 mo/12K

$5K out of pocket to start Payment = $1285

2016 S Class:

MSRP 108765
Sell Price 98,765
Residual: 55,470
36/12K

$5K out of pocket to start Payment - $1417.81

I guess they tell me MF for 2015 is .00047 and 2016 is .00104
and Residual on 2015 is 50% and 2016 is 52%.

Seems as if the numbers don't match up?

Also think i should be able to work a better deal, especially on 2015.

THOUGHTS?

Michaell

delidude50 said:

Okay need some help on year end deal.

2015 S Class :

MSRP 109355
Sell Price 96,855
Residual- 54677
36 mo/12K

$5K out of pocket to start Payment = $1285

2016 S Class:

MSRP 108765
Sell Price 98,765
Residual: 55,470
36/12K

$5K out of pocket to start Payment - $1417.81

I guess they tell me MF for 2015 is .00047 and 2016 is .00104
and Residual on 2015 is 50% and 2016 is 52%.

Seems as if the numbers don't match up?

Also think i should be able to work a better deal, especially on 2015.

THOUGHTS?

2015 S550 - .00047 and 50% for 36/12
2016 S550 - .00104 and 51% for 36/12

Using your prices, and assuming $0 cap cost reduction, I get $1243/mo + tax for the 2015, and $1363/mo + tax for the 2106.

Find out what the $5K at signing covers, and what the net cap cost is for both vehicles - if higher than the selling price, ask what the dealer added.

delidude50

Okay--new deals to give me feedback on. Was very tempted to get the S550e (hybrid) but the lack of much trunk space gave me pause. Could have made a great deal on a 2015.

Here is a what i have--2 separate cars--both MY2016 S550

Deal 1:
MSRP: 119,545
Discount: 15,550
Cap Cost: 103,995
Residual Value: 60,967
$3K drive off (includes about $800 cap reduction)
36 mo/12K $1,463.95

Deal 2:
MSRP: 110,605
Discount: 13,955.54
Cap Cost: 96,649.46
Residual Value: 56,408.55
$3K drive off (includes about $800 cap reduction)
36 mo/12K $1,383.00

Supposedly .00104 MF.

Seems to me that the residual is off as should be 52% but calculates at 51%.

Also, how could the payments between the two deals be only $8K apart but yet there is a $7K+ spread between the two sell prices and a $4K spread between payments? Something's fishy right?

Deal 1 car is UNBELIEVABLE--LOADED and gorgeous. If i can get that car under $1400, i probably take that deal otherwise i think the other car should be closer to $1250/mo.

Thanks!

kyfdx

delidude50 said:

Okay--new deals to give me feedback on. Was very tempted to get the S550e (hybrid) but the lack of much trunk space gave me pause. Could have made a great deal on a 2015.

Here is a what i have--2 separate cars--both MY2016 S550

Deal 1:
MSRP: 119,545
Discount: 15,550
Cap Cost: 103,995
Residual Value: 60,967
$3K drive off (includes about $800 cap reduction)
36 mo/12K $1,463.95

Deal 2:
MSRP: 110,605
Discount: 13,955.54
Cap Cost: 96,649.46
Residual Value: 56,408.55
$3K drive off (includes about $800 cap reduction)
36 mo/12K $1,383.00

Supposedly .00104 MF.

Seems to me that the residual is off as should be 52% but calculates at 51%.

Also, how could the payments between the two deals be only $8K apart but yet there is a $7K+ spread between the two sell prices and a $4K spread between payments? Something's fishy right?

Deal 1 car is UNBELIEVABLE--LOADED and gorgeous. If i can get that car under $1400, i probably take that deal otherwise i think the other car should be closer to $1250/mo.

Thanks!

.00104 MF and 51% residual is correct.

$1367 and $1277 are the payments, plus tax.

Your quoted payments are only $80/mo. apart.... not sure how that equates to $4000.

delidude50

So do you think this is a good deal?

kyfdx

delidude50 said:

So do you think this is a good deal?

Sorry... no experience in that price range.

vip93330

Can I please have the residual and MF for a 2015 S550 coupe Awd, 12k.

24, 30 and 36 months.

Thanks

Michaell

vip93330 said:

Can I please have the residual and MF for a 2015 S550 coupe Awd, 12k.

24, 30 and 36 months.

Thanks

Standard MF and 62% / 56% / 52%

razamshah

Looking for info on a 2016 S550 4Matic Sedan. 10k miles at 36 months. What are current MF and Residual going for?

Any good sources to find out invoice prices vs. msrp for vehicles as well?

Thanks in advance.

kyfdx

razamshah said:

Looking for info on a 2016 S550 4Matic Sedan. 10k miles at 36 months. What are current MF and Residual going for?

Any good sources to find out invoice prices vs. msrp for vehicles as well?

Thanks in advance.

.00107 MF and 52% residual

You can use the Make/Model/Year tabs at the top of the page for MSRP and invoice info.

razamshah

Thanks.

Is residual value based on a percentage (of the sale price) other than the actual agreed upon selling price for Mercedes? For Porsche, they told me it was a predetermined value (lower than the car price) regardless of what options were placed in the car? This obviously changed the lease payments considerably.

Thanks again.

Michaell

razamshah said:

Thanks. Is residual value based on a percentage (of the sale price) other than the actual agreed upon selling price for Mercedes? For Porsche, they told me it was a predetermined value (lower than the car price) regardless of what options were placed in the car? This obviously changed the lease payments considerably. Thanks again.

Residual is applied against the MSRP. Some brands - like Porsche - also use a maximum residualized MSRP (MRM) which caps the MSRP subject to residual. Anything above that is charged 100%. 

So so far as I know, MB does not employ that practice. 

razamshah

Hopefully one last question...

2016 S550 4 Matic Sedan
MSRP: 112,185
Sale Price: 104,109
0 Down
36 month/10k miles
Residual: 58,336.20
Sales Tax 6% in MD

I'm calculating $1532 before Doc Fees and Quoted $1867.15 at "Mercedes Base Numbers"

Am I doing something wrong or are the numbers way off "base."

kyfdx

razamshah said:

Hopefully one last question...

2016 S550 4 Matic Sedan
MSRP: 112,185
Sale Price: 104,109
0 Down
36 month/10k miles
Residual: 58,336.20
Sales Tax 6% in MD

I'm calculating $1532 before Doc Fees and Quoted $1867.15 at "Mercedes Base Numbers"

Am I doing something wrong or are the numbers way off "base."

.00107 MF and 52% residual.

Maryland levies sales tax on the full selling price, which is going to raise the payment a lot more.

I get $1445/mo., pre-tax. If you add $6246 in tax to the selling price, then I get $1625/mo.with tax.

"Mercedes Base Numbers" is BS sales talk. Ask them for the money factor they are using.

Also, I'm sure that Mercedes also has an MRM, but you probably aren't going to run into it at that level.
It's easy to run the Porsche options way, way up, and the MRM comes into play a lot more.

bknyc

Just picked up a new 2015 S550 4MATIC
$106545 MSRP
36 month/12K miles
3yr prepaid maint (included in deal)
$1132 per/month (including NJ sales tax of 7% in payment)
$3469 paid at signing for all fees (including 1st month payment)

Think I got a good deal.

kyfdx

bknyc said:

Just picked up a new 2015 S550 4MATIC
$106545 MSRP
36 month/12K miles
3yr prepaid maint (included in deal)
$1132 per/month (including NJ sales tax of 7% in payment)
$3469 paid at signing for all fees (including 1st month payment)

Think I got a good deal.

Congrats on the new Mercedes!

lovetolease

Can someone please give me residuals and MF on 2016 S550 10k, 36months and 48 months!!!
Is December a better time to lease..