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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    Here's the detail of my car ownership, by specific year and model, and in the order I bought them. If it doesn't say 'new', they were used. :) Back 'til a decade or so ago, Chevy had such a broad car line it was easy to buy across many different sizes and models, sigh.

    1) 1977 Impala coupe, bright red (gift from parents in May 1980)
    2) 1981 Monte Carlo, two-tone light and dark jade (new)
    3) 1982 Monte Carlo, dark jade, bought to replace stolen 1981 (dealer demo bought in Nov. '82)
    4) 1985 Celebrity Eurosport coupe, solid dark plum (new)
    5) 1963 Studebaker Lark Daytona Skytop R1, white with red vinyl interior
    6) 1989 Beretta GT, bright red with camel cloth interior (new)
    7) 1990 Corsica 4 cyl. 5-speed, charcoal gray (new)
    8) 1993 Caprice Classic, metallic maroon, F-41 (new)
    9) 1997 Cavalier sedan, 5-speed, light brown metallic (new)
    10) 1999 Venture LS van, so dark blue almost black (new; only car I ever leased)
    11) 2002 Cavalier coupe, 5-speed, very dark green (new)
    12) 2002 Venture LS van, brownish (new)
    13) 2005 Uplander LS van, metallic maroon (new)
    14) 2008 Cobalt XFE sedan, 5-speed, silver (new)
    15) 1964 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop, Strato (dark) Blue metallic
    16) 2008 PT Cruiser, silver
    17) 2011 Malibu LT, metallic black (new)
    18) 1966 Studebaker Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist (light green in all actuality)
    19) 2009 Cobalt LS sedan, white (totalled May 2017)
    20) 1966 Studebaker Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise
    21) 2015 Cruze LS sedan, black (totalled Sept. 2017)
    22) 2015 Cruze LS sedan, navy blue
    23) 2015 Equinox LS, navy blue
    24) 2017 Cruze LT (bought new at astonishing price of just under $12k with all the offers and my GM card money, even before trade)
    25) 2019 Equinox LT, white (new)
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    Only rental car ever to leave me stranded: 1980 Ford Fairmont
    Runner-up for lamest rental car: Beautiful blue 1980 Grand Prix that ticked like a time bomb and I added 3 qts. of oil. Only interior light that worked was on the RF floor and radio would fade in and out when you hit a bump.
    Budget used to give Town Cars in the late '80's and early '90's at good prices, so I drove my share of those.
    I had Merkurs and really everything you can think of, up 'til about a decade ago.
    First real slap in the face of foreign compact 'differentness'--Toyotas that had smelly vinyl to my nose, were very 'buzzy' in the engine department, and first cars I can think of that looked like the hubcaps fell off--on purpose. But of course those cars won out in the Buyers' hearts and minds. I get it.

    I will say my first experience with a Taurus, I was impressed with the room in the back seat, and rear-seat center armrest. I knew the '83 T-Bird looked nice but it seemed cramped inside and in the trunk compared to what I was used to. But the Taurus was round AND roomy.

    It really was revolutionary; my only gripe is that everybody, and I mean everbody, cribbed the concept and we are still dealing with soap-bar/all-the-same shapes now.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021

    Just blew up the side street as I sit on our front stoop…perfect stock- looking ‘63 Mercury Comet S-22 convertible in bright red with the top down. I’ve never seen it before.

    Reminded me that you just never see Meteors anymore. Only built for ’62 and ‘63.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Did it look like this one?
    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-mercury-comet-s-22-a-forgotten-classic/

    It's equipped just like my '64 1/2 Mustang was, 170 CID with the four on the floor.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    It surely did.

    I know Fairlanes could be had with the 221 V8 in '62 and also a 260 V8 in '63, so I'll assume the Comet could as well. I have no idea what engine this Comet had. I think unlike the Fairlane, I don't remember that Comets had V8 emblems or the like then. I didn't see anything like that on the car that blew by.

    EDIT: Sorry, I'm thinking the Comet and Fairlane were similar, when it was the Comet and Falcon that were similar. Sure doesn't seem like much size difference between a Comet and a Meteor then.
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    texases said:

    Did it look like this one?
    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-mercury-comet-s-22-a-forgotten-classic/

    It's equipped just like my '64 1/2 Mustang was, 170 CID with the four on the floor.

    I guess having a 4 speed (which is cool) gave the 170 six a bit of pep. A friend had a 66 Mustang convertible with the 200 six, auto. It was fun to ride with the top down, but quick it was not.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    Saw this on Sunday and took a pic. Not that interesting, but not seen all the time, especially here in salty NE OH. This is I believe a '96 or '97 Monte Carlo. It looked pretty good in profile as it went around the corner, too. These cars came out for '95 but the dark green was a bland dark gray-green and I remember this more attractive (IMHO) dark green came out a year or two later.

    I did like that the General built a coupe this large, and it could be had with a bench seat, column shift, and center armrest, but otherwise I was so disappointed with these cars when they came out. As my Dad, a former happy Monte Carlo owner opined, "Those are Monte Carlos in name only" and of course he was correct.

    They had so many horizontal lines down the side, and I detested the seam around the quarter windows.

    Really, I much-preferred the '90-92 Lumina Euro coupe, with the delete-option of no 'Frisbee' spoiler. (I know the coupe was made through '94 but I liked that the '90-92 had wheel opening trim, which got chucked for '93 and later.)


    The dealer ID on the car is for Ron Marhofer, who is still a dealer in Stow, OH and has been since 1919. In 2009 his franchise was taken away, despite his selling more new Chevys the year before than any other dealer in the county, including in larger Akron. Buzz was he was a Republican donor and well, you know. After about three months, in which he lost long-time employees and some regular customers bought elsewhere, he had his franchise reinstated. Not exactly sure why but I do remember a customer letter-writing thing going on. I bought six new Chevys there but my last few I've bought at the dealer about six miles down the road from him, who always seems to beat his prices on like merchandise by about a grand, although I like the people at Marhofer better.
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    sda said:

    texases said:

    Did it look like this one?
    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-mercury-comet-s-22-a-forgotten-classic/

    It's equipped just like my '64 1/2 Mustang was, 170 CID with the four on the floor.

    I guess having a 4 speed (which is cool) gave the 170 six a bit of pep. A friend had a 66 Mustang convertible with the 200 six, auto. It was fun to ride with the top down, but quick it was not.
    It was fun to drive, but quick it was not. One night I 'lined up' next to my friend in his dad's '70 LTD, light goes green, we were even to the next light! He rolled down his window, laughed, said he was barely pushing the gas pedal. I believe him.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    texases said:

    sda said:

    texases said:

    Did it look like this one?
    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/the-mercury-comet-s-22-a-forgotten-classic/

    It's equipped just like my '64 1/2 Mustang was, 170 CID with the four on the floor.

    I guess having a 4 speed (which is cool) gave the 170 six a bit of pep. A friend had a 66 Mustang convertible with the 200 six, auto. It was fun to ride with the top down, but quick it was not.
    It was fun to drive, but quick it was not. One night I 'lined up' next to my friend in his dad's '70 LTD, light goes green, we were even to the next light! He rolled down his window, laughed, said he was barely pushing the gas pedal. I believe him.
    I can still remember the exhaust drone of the 200 six as my friend would accelerate and finally get to a steady cruise. Being a convertible, the body shook and jiggled even on smooth roads but who cared? College years...where did they go?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I always called the 90s Monte a Lumina coupe, pretty much what it was. The early 00s one seemed to be more of its own vehicle, but had some unhappy styling details.


    I did like that the General built a coupe this large, and it could be had with a bench seat, column shift, and center armrest, but otherwise I was so disappointed with these cars when they came out. As my Dad, a former happy Monte Carlo owner opined, "Those are Monte Carlos in name only" and of course he was correct.

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023

    EDIT: Sorry, I'm thinking the Comet and Fairlane were similar, when it was the Comet and Falcon that were similar. Sure doesn't seem like much size difference between a Comet and a Meteor then.

    The Comet and Meteor were similar in overall length, and wheelbase, and I think the Meteor probably suffered as a result. Most buyers probably just looked at them both, thought they were about the same size, and then went with the Comet since it was cheaper.

    However, the Comet was made bigger, by the same way Pontiac made a Bonneville bigger than a Catalina. Stretch the wheelbase at the rear, but without giving the car any more interior room, and then tacking a few more inches of overhang on at the back. So you got more trunk space, but no more passenger room.

    Here's a pic of a Comet 4-door from the side, and you can really see how they pulled the rear axle back, in relation to the back door...


    I always thought it was a shame that the Meteor never caught on. I thought it was an attractive, nicely proportioned car. The Comet seemed too narrow to pull off the quad headlights, and having them widely spaced made it worse. But the Meteor seemed just wide enough that quads looked good.

    Now the '65 Comet, with its stacked headlights...I thought that one looked really good.

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021

    A ‘65 Cyclone, I like quite a bit.

    I know the ‘63 you showed is a low-line model, but it just looks so dumpy to me. Among other things, fins in ‘63.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,327

    Here are a couple of Bentleys that showed up for the Hilton Head Concours. The owners were driving them rain or shine:

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Yeah, it is kind of hum-drum looking. I was mainly looking for a pic that showed the extra length in that panel between the rear door and the rear wheel opening, and that was one of the first ones that popped up.

    Here's one that does the car a bit more justice...


    I think my issue with it is those tiny wheels. I know they're most likely 13" rims, but somehow they manage to look even smaller than that!
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    In the past 30 or so years I've gotten so used to being around '62 and later Larks having full-radius rear wheel openings that droopy ones bug me, but I know that's what most were like then.

    From 1964-67 we had a white '62 Fairlane (not 500) 4-door sedan. Red interior. I'm old enough to remember it pretty well. It was a six with stick, manual choke. The AM radio didn't work and my Dad's friend whom I called "Uncle Charlie" said he'd fix it, but he took forever so I largely remember a big hole and two smaller knob holes in the dash there. It was the car that turned my Dad off Fords forever as it would just quit running IIRC, although never with me in it. I'll guess that it was a 170 or 200, no idea.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    I just came across a car that i think could be classified as near-perfect styling.

    '69 Grand Prix. Just gorgeous to my eyes, in every exterior detail.

    I've mentioned that I typically can't stand fake vents or hash marks, but I don't mind them up on the C-pillar. The '70 exchanged locations for the "GRAND PRIX" nameplate and hash marks. I like the '69 locations better.

    Nice interior too, even though I bemoan no glovebox!

    I know the '70 Monte Carlo was less expensive, but I don't think the styling comes close.



    Rest of pics here:

    https://www.mcecars.com/vehicles/345/1969-pontiac-grand-prix-j-hard-top-coupe
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    '69 was a good styling year.

    Of course, the GM C-series pickup was the best, but the Econoline wasn't far behind. :D
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,327

    I just came across a car that i think could be classified as near-perfect styling.

    '69 Grand Prix. Just gorgeous to my eyes, in every exterior detail.

    I've mentioned that I typically can't stand chrome fake vents or hash marks, but I don't mind them up on the C-pillar. The '70 exchanged locations for the "GRAND PRIX" nameplate and hash marks. I like the '69 locations better.

    Nice interior too, even though I bemoan no glovebox!

    I know the '70 Monte Carlo was less expensive, but I don't think the styling comes close.



    Rest of pics here:

    https://www.mcecars.com/vehicles/345/1969-pontiac-grand-prix-j-hard-top-coupe

    I'd take an SJ; a gentleman's GTO

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    A Comet convertible like that being talked about was prominent in the video by Suzy Bogguss for the song “Drive South”.

    https://youtu.be/dhDBYCV9trI

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    The SJ option was very cool. You really couldn't see the differences, but they were beneath-the-surface heavy duty and performance stuff.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Suzy's Comet wasn't even as nice as the one I saw yesterday!
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    Well, it was a poorly produced video even by the standards of the day, so I suspect they didn't look very hard for what car to use.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Yesterday out on the interstate I spotted a '57 Chevy Bel Air 2-door post. Slightly modified, looked pretty nice...

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    It is more interesting to see an oldie out on the road than at a show, isn't it?

    I grew up Chevy obviously, but a '57 does nothing for me (don't get me wrong; I'd try and snap a pic of one on the road too!). So hyped. Other than the '57's didn't rust out over the headlights like the '55 and '56 did, I sure prefer those earlier ones.

    I do like '57 Dusk Pearl color. I sort-of like the One-Fifty that year, which has the straight side trim and non fanned-out trim on the rear quarter. I'd happily take a Nomad, too. :)

    I have a friend who is a fan of independents, but has worked on all types of cars for better part of sixty years. He claims that '57 Chevys became most-popular as used cars in the '60's, as they were mechanically more-reliable and had better body integrity than Fords of the same year, and were cheap to buy. Cheap to repair and 'hop up'.

    That said, I'd rather have a '57 Ford now. At Hershey some years back I saw a '57 Fairlane 500 in black and red; a two-door sedan with narrow side pillars covered in chrome so it resembled a hardtop. I'd very much enjoy that car today. I remember that Iacocca's book called '57 Fords "a styling gem that sold like hotcakes".
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I have a book packed away somewhere, called "The Last American Convertibles" which was written in the late 1970's, so it definitely had a different perspective on things than one might take nowadays. I haven't read it in decades, but one thing that I remember, is the writer saying that "The '57 Plymouth was too tasteful for the masses" while that year's Ford had "the touch of vulgarity necessary to be a winner".

    When the book was written, the American convertible was dead, and in the late 70's I don't think anybody was expecting it to ever come back. But one thing the author mentioned, that I thought was interesting, is the mention of aftermarket convertibles. They said that there were companies out there that, for about $10,000, would turn a closed coupe into a convertible. So far, the author said, the majority of them have been Lincolns and Cadillacs, "because a $15,000 Ford or Chevy just doesn't make sense."

    LOL, give it a few years, with inflation! Although, at the time the book was written, I don't think you were going to get much of a Ford or Chevy for $5,000, so I have a feeling this writer might have been a bit out of touch!

    With the '55-57 Chevy, it seems like the '55 has a good deal of fans, and the '57 does, while the '56 is sort of like the red-headed stepchild of the trio. Maybe I have a habit of subconsciously rooting for the underdog, but the '56 was always the one I liked the best!

    And yeah, even cars that are a common sight at car shows, are always much more interesting, out in the wild!

    I know I've complained about the jutting, bug-eyed headlights of the '57 Ford, but there are other things about the car I do like. I actually think it's attractive from most angles...I'm just not a fan of that front. One thing that I thought was interesting was how that year, Ford started separating its cars into the lower-level Custom/Custom 300 and high-line Fairlane/Fairlane 500. And it wasn't just a matter of giving the high-line cars more trim, nicer interiors, and the more flashy hardtop and convertible body styles. The wheelbase on the Fairlane was a bit longer than the Custom: 118" vs 116". Although, Consumer Reports noted that the Fairlane 4-door they tested had less interior room than the Custom. I think most of the loss was headroom and legroom in the back seat. The 2- and 4-door pillared models in the Fairlane were more swoopy and low-slung than the Custom. The 2-door looks like it could have been a hardtop coupe with a B-pillar put in, and a frame around the door window, whereas in the Chevy and Plymouth lines, the 2-door pillared models looked like they shared as much of the roof structure as practical with the 4-door sedans, and were more upright. So Ford tried to add a touch of distinction and flair to even the more mundane, pillared body styles.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    I get the jutting headlights thing, but the flip side is that the Ford is largely a simple design, which I like.

    I saw an online article about a '58 Impala yesterday, and for the first time in my life, I thought, "I just really don't like the looks of that car".

    We've discussed this before, but I like the '58 Ford a lot. Yeah, it's got a lot of tack-on stuff on what's basically the '57 body, but I like it anyway. I think much of that is that my favorite aunt, a young widow, had one when I was a kid. I always liked the reverse-opening hoods of the '57 and '58. I think the '59's does too, which with its blunt front end doesn't look like it would open that way!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    Originally I was going to post this in Postwar Studebakers but figured it would get more exposure here.

    Remember growing up in the '60s and '70s how just about every cartoon and comedy show on TV had the same car wreck sound effect? You know, first the screeching tires, then various impact sounds with glass breaking, metal pieces hitting the ground, all sorts of wreck-sounds, that went on for what seemed like forever? I just found the source:


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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited November 2021
    Despite my distaste for those jutting headlights on the '57 Ford, I've seen customizations that supposedly "fix" that issue, but I don't really see them as an improvement. Here's a '57 that's been customized. And while the customizer actually addressed my complaint, I don't find it to be an improvement...



    And, here's a '57 that's been given quad headlights from a '58, and a customized grille...

    It doesn't really wow me, either. I'm trying to picture it with the proper '57 grille, and don't really imagine it to be an improvement.

    So, even though I'm not a huge fan of those jutting headlights, I guess the Ford stylists knew what they were doing!


  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    I think most '58s that adopted quad headlights using the previous year's body had the same problem. They pretty much all used the same rounded top of the fenders that transitioned into the headlight opening, which makes quads look added on. Chrysler did it differently, as they seemed to design the '57 bodies with quads in mind, and used a flatter top line for the HLO on all of their models. Ford wised up by doing the same with the '59. Since GM went with an all-new body for '58 they were able to avoid the round-top fender look, and then the next year with another all-new body started putting headlights in the grille opening to sidestep it altogether.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    It also reminds me of the race to replace round headlamps with rectangular in 75 or so. I thought the stacked rectangular lamps on the Monte Carlo and the Dodge Coronet and the like looked awkward and forced.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    I'd seen that Lark and Jeep pic online somewhere before. I'll assume that dealer is in Arkansas.

    That Jeep almost looks like it's going to lift off the ground!

    Small story, but after I moved my Mom into assisted living, our town's Jeep dealer moved in. His family put a sign on his apartment door, to the effect of, "If he's sleeping, wake him, he'd love to see you". I introduced myself one time in the hallway and said, "You used to be the Jeep dealer" and he said 'yes'. I said that I always thought those little flat-fronted Jeep pickups that the Erie railroad in town used were cool, and even though he was pretty 'foggy', right away he said "FC".
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited November 2021
    I remember when I looked out back at the Chevy dealer in Sharon, PA and saw my first '76 Malibu Classics and Monte Carlos with the stacked rectangular lights. I rather like that. The '77's lost me mostly because of the new 'big' cars, but I hated how they added a hood ornament to the Monte Carlo, and made a bland grille insert, IMHO, on the Malibu Classic.

    Little things can sway me one way or another on whether I'd consider buying a particular model year of a car.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861

    That’s a good color. I think that’s what Chevy called ‘Mahogany’.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    Nice color. And I always thought that vintage was a nice design, by 1970s domestic standards!

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    Cars of that era had a valve that sensed the pressure of the brake fluid in both lines. If one was higher than the other, meaning one was probably low on fluid, this valve would go off center and turn the brake light on. Fixing the low fluid problem would then allow the sensor to go back to the middle position when pressure was on both sides. It was like it was spring loaded and didn't reallly want to be off center and popped back easily.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    Argh! That buzzing noise! I always hated the sound as a child, and, in the last thirty years or so, I find that nothing has changed. :D
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    The front end on the LeMans is good looking. The color is great too.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited November 2021
    @andre1969 , it cracks me up a little how you can be such an old car hobbyist and not have more of an inclination to wrench on them.

    This new garage of yours would be perfect for such activities! It's starting to look like quite the nice building.

    Congrats on the successful transfer of the car to the new place. I probably would have done the same thing. Of course, I *did* drive my Econoline nearly 1,500 miles with a bad master cylinder. After a while of no brakes (or nearly so), you get used to it and plan accordingly.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    Congrats on getting the LeMans home. You need to give that filler panel between the dash pad and the windshield a whack to put it back into place. It is just held in with clips.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    andre, I gotta tell you...as with most people, I had an image in my mind of what you look like. Seeing your pic on those videos, I'm surprised, LOL!

    I know 'andre' is just your handle here, but the only 'Andre' I really knew, was a service writer at the Chevy dealer that was here in Kent until 2009. He was a favorite of mine, very friendly, and helped me out more than once. That Andre resembled Barack Obama with wire-rim glasses....really. He knew it too as some of the mechanics kidded him about the similarity.

    So, in my mind, that's the image that always comes up when I see your name by a post, LOL.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    The quad light Pontiac front clip always makes me think "Buford T. Justice" B)
    sda said:

    The front end on the LeMans is good looking. The color is great too.

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Incidentally, andre, not saying that in real-life you're not looking 'presidential'. :)
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    edited November 2021

    andre, I gotta tell you...as with most people, I had an image in my mind of what you look like. Seeing your pic on those videos, I'm surprised, LOL!

    I know 'andre' is just your handle here, but the only 'Andre' I really knew, was a service writer at the Chevy dealer that was here in Kent until 2009. He was a favorite of mine, very friendly, and helped me out more than once. That Andre resembled Barack Obama with wire-rim glasses....really. He knew it too as some of the mechanics kidded him about the similarity.

    So, in my mind, that's the image that always comes up when I see your name by a post, LOL.

    Neat video of an old car being driven.
    I'd forgotten the color on Andre's Lemans. I was expecct a light color like
    the convertible.

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  • mrwhipple311mrwhipple311 Member Posts: 56
    edited November 2021
    @andre1969
    Keep hoping you will do Michigan Adam videos on your cars, I'd watch them


  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    driving around, a 1st gen Infinity M35 or 45. Have not seen one in years. weird shape on those.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited November 2021
    Thanks everyone! Figured I'd try to respond in one post...

    Uplander and Stickguy, I'm not sure what the color is called. It was repainted, but not the original color, which is "Firethorn". It's honestly not a very good repaint, and is mis-matched in a few spots, so I think the car may have been wrecked after it was repainted. Here's a '76 Grand LeMans wagon in Firethorn. This is also what the '76 Grand LeMans grille *should* look like (mine is sporting a '77 Grand LeMans grille)


    Xwesx...yeah, that buzzing noise definitely brings back some childhood memories! When I bought the car, the buzzer wasn't working, but at some point I had some work done on the car, that was totally unrelated, but they must have accidentally made some connection or jiggled something, because dammit, now it works! As for working on cars myself, I used to do it more, but will admit, as I've gotten older, have gotten lazier. Plus, I don't have quite the flexibility (or the patience) that I used to, so sometimes it's in my best interest to let someone else do the work!

    Sda and Fintail...the front-end of the car is the main thing, I think, that attracted me to them, ever since they were new. And "Smokey and the Bandit" had a lot to do with that! In contrast Mom had a '75 LeMans, which still had the single round headlights. I hated that car at the time. I hadn't seen a picture of it in years, but oddly, at my Grandmom's funeral back in 2015, somehow it made it into the slideshow the funeral was running in the background, during the viewing. It was a picture of Grandmom in her driveway, and their '72 Impala and Mom's '77 LeMans were in the background. Kinda morbid, I guess...here's Grandmom, laid out and ready to be buried soon, and I was reminiscing about the cars! Anyway, in that pic, the LeMans looked more appealing than I remember. I'm going to have to ask Mom for a copy of that pic.

    Imidazol97, thanks for the rundown on how the power brake light works. It just seemed odd to me that the brakes would start getting better, and then basically back to normal. I figured that there would be air in the system, and that while adding fluid might help somewhat, it still wouldn't be 100% normal, and that they'd need to be bled. "I was expecct a light color like the convertible." Funny you'd say that...I've had more than enough cars over the years, in that rough color range (tan/beige/creamy yellow, which all sort of blurs together in my mind) that I swore I'd never get another. But, every once in awhile, I'll see an otherwise nice car that catches my eye, but damn if it isn't in that color range! But, I also once swore I'd never get another silver car...yet here I am, with a silver '03 Regal. :o

    Ab348...yeah, that gap with the filler panel has always bugged me. I've tried to gently push it down on the past, but it wouldn't hold. I've been afraid to whack it too hard, for fear I might break something!

    Uplander, which pic are you talking about? The one with me in the swimming pool with the flavor ice in my mouth? Probably not the most "presidential" pose in the world :p

    Mrwhipple311... thanks, but I absolutely HATE the way I sound on video/audio! But, I might be tempted to try something sometime. My cars aren't anywhere near as nice as the ones Michigan Adam finds, though!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited November 2021
    stickguy said:

    driving around, a 1st gen Infinity M35 or 45. Have not seen one in years. weird shape on those.

    Was it this style?

    I always found these kind of appealing, in a weird sort of way. It seems like a Japanese interpretation of an American style. To my eye at least, it has sort of a long, low look to it...even though it's 57.6" tall, according to the specs on Edmund's.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Those were the JDM Nissan Cedric, I think they were sent to this market on a whim, a design originally intended only for the home market I think, and it has that look - barely modified for this market. A little exotic, and I think one variant (V8 probably) had some kind of mechanical Achilles heel, as I swear I read something about them, and you never see them anymore. The 2005+ style sold much better, IMO more Americanized.
    andre1969 said:

    stickguy said:

    driving around, a 1st gen Infinity M35 or 45. Have not seen one in years. weird shape on those.

    Was it this style?

    I always found these kind of appealing, in a weird sort of way. It seems like a Japanese interpretation of an American style. To my eye at least, it has sort of a long, low look to it...even though it's 57.6" tall, according to the specs on Edmund's.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    fintail said:

    Those were the JDM Nissan Cedric, I think they were sent to this market on a whim, a design originally intended only for the home market I think, and it has that look - barely modified for this market. A little exotic, and I think one variant (V8 probably) had some kind of mechanical Achilles heel, as I swear I read something about them, and you never see them anymore. The 2005+ style sold much better, IMO more Americanized.

    andre1969 said:

    stickguy said:

    driving around, a 1st gen Infinity M35 or 45. Have not seen one in years. weird shape on those.

    Was it this style?

    I always found these kind of appealing, in a weird sort of way. It seems like a Japanese interpretation of an American style. To my eye at least, it has sort of a long, low look to it...even though it's 57.6" tall, according to the specs on Edmund's.
    It reminds me a little of the 2005 Chrysler 300 if the greenhouse wasn’t as tall. Looking at the slab sides you can almost see the 300 bumper/grille up front.

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