I can't remember what they're called. They were limited edition concept-style cars that have a Hotwheels design. I tailed this guy so I could find the badge and all I could see what Chrysler Pr...I have no idea why it wasn't in chrome instead of being branded in the bland colored bumper.
Today I spotted a light beige-ish 300SL roadster, this being a different car than the silver one I saw not long ago. So there must be at least 2 of them locally.
Could the Hotwheels car be a Chrysler Prowler, the name they took right before they died off?
Saw a nice early 911 today, by the reg. it was 1969/70, metallic blue, not restored, a bit worn, but just someones daily driver, parked in a residential street. I've seen it before , and not always in the same spot, so it must be in regular use. Also a Nissan Pao, sort of retro looking little utility-car based on a circa 1990 Micra/March, that was never offered here, so it was another 'grey import' from Japan home market. There is a guy who has a garage a mile or so from here who brings in these ex-Japan rarities, he even had a Nissan BE1 outside last year, but I haven't seen it since.... His main seller is the Nissan Figaro, which is now quite common here, as a cult car.
Today after the 300SL I saw a really nice Porsche 356 (I assume it was a later model) with a period luggage rack on the rear. And then I spotted what appeared to be a 67-68 Shelby Mustang...I know these are cloned a lot so I can't guarantee it was real, but it sure looked the part.
dont know where else to ask but my friend has a 1969 austin america with 33k on it any idea on its worth or where i could find out? its in good condition
During a insomniac episode this weekend, I was flipping through the channels and happened upon an episode of Stargate: Atlantis...
I didn't know what it was, at first.. I thought it was an old show.. Somehow the main characters ended up back on Earth, in their old life.. One character is shown driving into her driveway in an E30 BMW 325i convertible (late '80s, early '90s), and she pulls up behind her husband's car, which appears to be a Maserati Biturbo convertible.. (also from the '80s).
Really weird... I assume this is a fairly recent show? But, they had two extremely nice examples of late '80s automobiles..
similar to the one i used to have. dark blue, black vinyl top, chrome dubs. :surprise: mine didn't have the chrome dubs and it was copper colored. also a 40th anniversary corvette that looked like it had maybe 5k on it. the exhaust pipes to the mufflers were still silver. paint looked perfect too. a classy looking tribute to the corvette.
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I saw a lovely shell-grey 1940 Ford convertible today. It was driven by a guy who didn't look much older than I, and he was yapping on the phone while he drove it! He also pulled out in front of traffic in that ever so selfish way that young women have perfected. I wanted to follow him home, kick him in the head a few dozen times, and rescue the poor car. Inheritance from granddad, I bet.
Today I saw a Volvo 164 sedan (pre 1973, small bumpers, small vertical/sami-elipsoid taillights), in the usual olive green (the other 'usual' being that dark charcoal/almost black), definitely not in running condition; I only say 'strange' because it had a brown vinyl top, definitely the earliest Volvo I've seen with one (I think the ONLY others being those Bertone coupes from the early '80s).
My aunt and uncle, in some vain attempt to be 'adult' or 'responsible' or something like that, traded a '74 (admittedly not their best year) Dodge Challenger (in a really nice bright blue with white vinyl everything) for an older model Volvo 164.....big mistake. Nothing like having a money pit car your first year of marriage, and finding someone who could repair Volvos near Joliet, IL in 1976 couldn't have been too easy.
It's a ca. 1990 T-Bird with a fake 1950 Ford-style front end grafted on. That conversion has been around for awhile.
Nice pics Andre...that two tone 66 Galaxie reminds me of my first car, and that light blue 58 Edsel 4 door HT is pretty unusual...nice Edsels there as a whole.
I went to a little local show today, the Greenwood show in Seattle. There were a few interesting hunks of iron there, but it was so crowded it was literally impossible to get in a pic.
There were some lovely GM cars there - a beautiful silver blue 63 Riviera comes to mind, and a 65 (?) Jetstar with a gorgeous interior, kind of a ribbed vinyl. GM sure knew how to do it. Also a very nice 50 Olds fastback and a 54 BelAir convert, both in that period pale yellow. Of course there was the usual horde of 65-72 Chevelles, Camaros, and Vettes.
Some good Mopars too...a 57 Fury, a 61 Imperial convert (in a yucky non-stock bright yellow) and a 63 coupe, a very nice 68 Dart GT conver, and several 70-72 Challengers and Chargers.
Fords weren't so numerous, but there was a gathering of Mustangs, a nice 58 retractable, and a pristine 64 Galaxie 500XL convert come to mind.
Not much foreign metal - some MGs and Austins, a nice MB 208SE 4.5, a big unrestored early postwar Rolls. No fintails of course. Some oddballs too, a really well done Checker wagon, and a Hudson Hornet coupe come to mind. We're in a minor heatwave here, or at least heading for one, so that can be a good or bad thing. I'm more than happy to have the fintail lounge in its garage today.
....or we're both psychotic, I was just about to post that Grand Ville for Andre. It's a third the price of the Olds Ninety-Eight, and about 90 percent the same car. Providing you have a place to keep it (check, for Andre, I think), it's a good deal. Oh yeah, and keep your gas card handy. Plus, it's a natural as a close relative of Andre's Grand LeMans, right (justify, justify)?
The OLDS 88 from 1954 is rare in this area. I can't recall having seen one of that style/years at cruiseins. Maybe they're all being restored to prime condition like that one.
...make me crazy. We have all the 'no-no's': crazy starting bid equal to or greater than whishfull end-of-'auction' pricing, vague ('owner modified the car with accessories and wheels', 'no mechanical or cosmetic issues are needed'?), terribly written ad copy, the most horrible and redundant phone pics (do we need four pictures of the incorrect wire hubcaps?). Worst of all, it's for a car with all the right stuff (Caprices with big blocks, factory tilt/tele, power stuff, buckets w/headrests, and the console stereo controls are pretty desirable).
I do think that Grand Ville is a decent buy...that's not a lot of money for what appears to be a sound driving car...even to actually use. The mileage will be horrible, but otherwise, you could do so much worse for even more money. Andre needs a new car this year.
I hate fake wire wheel covers...I see those and it really distracts me, I can't pay attention to the rest of the car. Like that squarebird I posted...I almost didn't bother because the caps bugged me. Why do people think those look good?
Those 54-57 midrange GMs like that Olds were just a great looking design. The yearly intentional obsolescence updates can be debated, but the basic lines were excellent. Classy yet sporty in a mature way.
.. Audi 90 Quattro 20-valve... In typically ratty condition for the time period (early-'90s?)... But, bone stock.. .still had factory spoiler and front fogs, etc...
out of those three big tanks, the '73 Delta catches my eye the most. I think it might be the nice, soothing colors, and from the pics at least, looks like it's in pretty good shape. About the only thing I don't like about this style of Delta is the way the headlight bezels form those peaks at the center. But otherwise, I think it's pretty attractive. Is the interior vinyl or cloth, though? I swear in the pics that the seats look like they're vinyl, but it looks like the inserts in the door panels are cloth. Unless it's just the lighting playing tricks on me.
With Ninety-Eights, I'm really picky. I like the '76 just fine, but there's just something about the way the headlight bezels bulge out in the middle on the '75 that make it look too heavy and swollen. Plus, I don't like that shade of green, at least not on that particular car.
For the price though, that Grand Ville looks to be the winner. I have a feeling the owner of that Delta thinks he has something really special, and has some ridiculous reserve on it.
It's kinda ironic that you guys have been thinking about putting me in a big 70's GM boat. Yesterday Lemko and I were at the GM Nationals, and there was this really nice, almost new-looking '76 Catalina that the seller wanted $4900 for. I took a picture of it, which I'll post later along with all the others. There was nothing really special about it, except for the condition that it was on, but I mentioned that I wouldn't mind having something like that to beat around in. I remember saying that it was almost a shame that the previous owner(s) went through the trouble it so nice, because there are probably only a handful of people who would appreciate something like that.
I think that's a really good looking car, too. I always did like GM's B- and C-bodies of that generation, especially the '55-56 Buicks. I think the '57 Buick, Olds, and Caddy was good looking too, but I guess it's biggest problem was that, even though it was an all-new body, at a quick glance it just didn't seem all that different from the '56. And it's hard to believe that the '58's used the same '57 body. How something could go from that good looking to that ugly in one model year is truly astounding!
Did they make a half vinyl/cloth in that Delta? That's what it looks like to me...the outer portions of the seating areas are vinyl, but the actual place where you sit is cloth.
Yeah, that might be it. I think it might be that thinner nylon/broacade/"panty-cloth" type material, which blends in a bit better with the vinyl than the later types of velour/felt, such as what's in that Grand Ville.
I really like that interior color, too. It's not often that you see a car with a blue interior that bright. A buddy of mine had a '78 Malibu that had a light blue interior, but it was much more muted. More of a grayish blue, I guess, where that Delta looks like its blue has just a touch of green.
A few rarities in town this Saturday. First up, a Ford Taurus. That may not sound rare to you, but this one was on British plates in central London, and we didn't get that as an import so it came in privately. It was one of the late 90's ones, circa 99, so not the old shape that looked like the Euro Granada Scorpio... It just goes to show that what is common on your roads can be a real rarity here. Also saw a sweet Aston DB 2-3, all kitted out for rallying, and with badges for Mille Miglia 2006 historic run, just parked at the kerb. Third was a Fiat 500 Giardiniera wagon, an early one with suicide doors so 1960/5.
The DKW was terrible, but somone would probably pay good money for the glass, so it is probably worth something... The Isetta was a Velam version, so itis rarer as it is licence-produced French version. I belong to the UK Register of Unusual Microcars, and somebody would pay good money for that here too, but in Canada? I suppose you could get it sent by parcel post... What I really did like was the Lancia Aprillia, that was beautiful.... Am I right in saying the conventional Chrysler outsold the Airflow when new - the latter was too revolutionary then?
I went to a car show in North London at the end of last month which was a washout as we had flooding (London is paradoxically in the middle of the worst drought for decades) and one of the few cars that turned up was an Airflow, although I think it was a 35 rather than a 34. A real rarity here, but some prewar Chryslers were quite popular in UK - there was an assembly plant in Kew, West London, although I think that they made versions you wouldn't recognise across there, as they all had British names and probably mixed up Dodge/Plymouth etc with Chrysler badges Certainly we had Buick in the 30's, but Canadian McLaughin ones, as they were at a lower tariff thanks to Empire Preference. I remember seeing a Lincoln Zephyr in a pretty derelict condition in Cork, Ireland in the late 60's when I was a kid, (had to look it up as I haden't heard of it) - it was there for a couple of years (we went there for family holidays and the ferry came in at Cork). Never saw one on the road though until carshows a long time later.
The problem with the airflow was that it was coyote ugly, IMO, albeit an admirable effort at what they now call "naive aerodynamics" (that is, shapes that look aerodynamically efficient but actually aren't).
Part of the problem is what people in the 1930s were used to. They needed to see where the engine was (up front, just like the horse) and they needed a visual sense of what propelled the car.
Yeah the Airflow had front end issues...it was the same shape as rear end of any late 20s/early 30s 2 door convertible. Any car where "coming or going" jokes can be made is going to be a bust.
In some recent car magazine (Automobile?) that provides auction reports, there's a UK assembled 30s Chrysler that was once owned by one of the Rolling Stones or something to that effect. It indeed looks like a Dodge.
stylistically, are the headlights that are mounted too far inboard (and are bulging and "bug-eyed" on the DeSotos) and the grilles were raked too far back. I think if they would have put the headlights out on the fenders, similar to a VW Beetle, the result would have been a bit more attractive.
I dunno if this is true or not, but I heard that the way Chrysler figured out aerodynamics back then was that they took a 1932 DeSoto and mounted its body backwards on the frame, rigged it up to be driveable, and found that it got better gas mileage than it did with the body turned around the "correct" way.
The Airflow actually WAS wind-tunnel tested, so some thought was put into streamlining it. But then, the 1978 Malibu was also a result of wind tunnel testing, so maybe that's not much of an argument! Anybody have an idea what the drag coefficient would be of an Airflow?
-a '73 or '74 Porsche 911 w the big bumpers and the five spoke Fuchs wheels (silver spokes-not the black seen in the later 70s and 80s. The car was Forest Green and in pretty good shape except for the missing front lower valence panel (victim of a pothole?).
This car had no right side mirror, yes kids they were once optional, even on fancy cars like 911s.
-A Suzuki X90, a misbegotten design to be sure but apparently in good DD shape.
... were a dealer installed option on my '82 Accord hatchback.. Only, the adjuster was over on the passenger door, so I passed on it.. I think they wanted $100 installed!!
I see an immaculate Suzuki X90 every day on the way to work... I'm hoping he has a short commute.. it looks dangerous..
a bright Yugo coming up at me at about 30 MPH in my rear view mirror and rear ending my '04 Rio Cinco! Man that Yugo crumbled like an accordion!!! LOL The was hood buckled and the front wheels were tucked in! Oh and my Cinco? Bumper was gone (of course) other than that not much.
about 250 miles, round trip on Saturday, to take my '76 LeMans up to Carlisle and back, I can tell you WHY right side mirrors were so rare back then...they SUCKED!
First off, mirrors back then were tiny compared to today. Now back then, I don't think that was much of a problem, because that's all people were used to. Plus, back then people were trained to actually LOOK before taking action, and not depending on what they see in the mirror. But when you get used to these massive things of today, especially truck mirrors, and then have to go back to those old ones, they're practically useless. Plus, unless they're power or cable-operated, you either need a friend to help you position the passenger-side, or you have to keep guessing at it, adjusting it and then sitting in your seat to see if you got it right, then getting up to repeat if necessary.
I think about the only thing those older mirrors are good for is to give the car a symmetric look.
when I got a new car it typically did not have a r/s mirror. The very first thing I did, without fail, was to add an aftermarket unit.
I couldn't imagine trying to deal with NYC area roads without a mirror on each side. :surprise: They were a PITA to adjust but I used them all the time.
Spotted a BMW 2800 sedan today, which is the precursor of the dreaded Bavaria 3.0. Probably the 2800 is way better since it does not suffer the burden of all the emissions equipment that bedevils the Bavaria. All the price guides suggest the 2800 is worth more, probably for this reason.
My Fiat Seicento has tiny mirrors on each door, the glass area is about the size of a playing card. No fancy adjustment either - you just twiddle the handle on the inside and it is literally attached on the other end to the mirror. No cables, knobs etc, its like a spoon sticking out through the door, with the glass bit where the bowl would be. Funny thing is it works. I can reach the passenger side mirror from the driver seat, so it's easy to adjust, the glass is parabolic so you get a wider view, and because the interior mirror is comparatively large you don't have a large blind spot. My previous daily drive was a 1970 MGB and that only had a driver's side mirror, no wing mirrors or anything, so with the roof up it was blind on the passenger side. Got used to it though.... I see an X90 every week or so around here - the driver looks like she is about twelve....
I like the story about the 32 DeSoto being more aerodynamic back-to-front. When the Austin Allegro was inflicted on the public somebody tested it and found that had a far greater coefficient of drag in reverse - and that was in the early 70's. I suppose that's one of the many reasons you don't see new Austins anymore - although I saw an old Austin Maxi this morning, so there are still some out there...
I saw a mid-seventies Mercedes 240D this morning..Not particularly rare, but this one had immaculate paint, a really sharp navy blue. The chrome was exceptional too. The car was really stunning...
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Could the Hotwheels car be a Chrysler Prowler, the name they took right before they died off?
Also a Nissan Pao, sort of retro looking little utility-car based on a circa 1990 Micra/March, that was never offered here, so it was another 'grey import' from Japan home market.
There is a guy who has a garage a mile or so from here who brings in these ex-Japan rarities, he even had a Nissan BE1 outside last year, but I haven't seen it since....
His main seller is the Nissan Figaro, which is now quite common here, as a cult car.
i think i saw that in 'ronin'.
Today after the 300SL I saw a really nice Porsche 356 (I assume it was a later model) with a period luggage rack on the rear. And then I spotted what appeared to be a 67-68 Shelby Mustang...I know these are cloned a lot so I can't guarantee it was real, but it sure looked the part.
I didn't know what it was, at first.. I thought it was an old show.. Somehow the main characters ended up back on Earth, in their old life.. One character is shown driving into her driveway in an E30 BMW 325i convertible (late '80s, early '90s), and she pulls up behind her husband's car, which appears to be a Maserati Biturbo convertible.. (also from the '80s).
Really weird... I assume this is a fairly recent show? But, they had two extremely nice examples of late '80s automobiles..
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mine didn't have the chrome dubs and it was copper colored.
also a 40th anniversary corvette that looked like it had maybe 5k on it. the exhaust pipes to the mufflers were still silver. paint looked perfect too. a classy looking tribute to the corvette.
My aunt and uncle, in some vain attempt to be 'adult' or 'responsible' or something like that, traded a '74 (admittedly not their best year) Dodge Challenger (in a really nice bright blue with white vinyl everything) for an older model Volvo 164.....big mistake. Nothing like having a money pit car your first year of marriage, and finding someone who could repair Volvos near Joliet, IL in 1976 couldn't have been too easy.
Nice pics Andre...that two tone 66 Galaxie reminds me of my first car, and that light blue 58 Edsel 4 door HT is pretty unusual...nice Edsels there as a whole.
There were some lovely GM cars there - a beautiful silver blue 63 Riviera comes to mind, and a 65 (?) Jetstar with a gorgeous interior, kind of a ribbed vinyl. GM sure knew how to do it. Also a very nice 50 Olds fastback and a 54 BelAir convert, both in that period pale yellow. Of course there was the usual horde of 65-72 Chevelles, Camaros, and Vettes.
Some good Mopars too...a 57 Fury, a 61 Imperial convert (in a yucky non-stock bright yellow) and a 63 coupe, a very nice 68 Dart GT conver, and several 70-72 Challengers and Chargers.
Fords weren't so numerous, but there was a gathering of Mustangs, a nice 58 retractable, and a pristine 64 Galaxie 500XL convert come to mind.
Not much foreign metal - some MGs and Austins, a nice MB 208SE 4.5, a big unrestored early postwar Rolls. No fintails of course. Some oddballs too, a really well done Checker wagon, and a Hudson Hornet coupe come to mind. We're in a minor heatwave here, or at least heading for one, so that can be a good or bad thing. I'm more than happy to have the fintail lounge in its garage today.
The worst of these I've ever seen
Worst of these I've ever seen too
Neat old big Lancia
These are super cool, but that's a pretty penny
This was produced alongside the Airflow...amazing
Another frankenbenz
Oldsmobile had it right once
A few years later they still knew how to do it
I could see Andre in this
Or this
Or even this...OK enough of the tanks
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Ahhhhh, those were the good Olds days.
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...make me crazy. We have all the 'no-no's': crazy starting bid equal to or greater than whishfull end-of-'auction' pricing, vague ('owner modified the car with accessories and wheels', 'no mechanical or cosmetic issues are needed'?), terribly written ad copy, the most horrible and redundant phone pics (do we need four pictures of the incorrect wire hubcaps?). Worst of all, it's for a car with all the right stuff (Caprices with big blocks, factory tilt/tele, power stuff, buckets w/headrests, and the console stereo controls are pretty desirable).
I hate fake wire wheel covers...I see those and it really distracts me, I can't pay attention to the rest of the car. Like that squarebird I posted...I almost didn't bother because the caps bugged me. Why do people think those look good?
Those 54-57 midrange GMs like that Olds were just a great looking design. The yearly intentional obsolescence updates can be debated, but the basic lines were excellent. Classy yet sporty in a mature way.
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With Ninety-Eights, I'm really picky. I like the '76 just fine, but there's just something about the way the headlight bezels bulge out in the middle on the '75 that make it look too heavy and swollen. Plus, I don't like that shade of green, at least not on that particular car.
For the price though, that Grand Ville looks to be the winner. I have a feeling the owner of that Delta thinks he has something really special, and has some ridiculous reserve on it.
It's kinda ironic that you guys have been thinking about putting me in a big 70's GM boat. Yesterday Lemko and I were at the GM Nationals, and there was this really nice, almost new-looking '76 Catalina that the seller wanted $4900 for. I took a picture of it, which I'll post later along with all the others. There was nothing really special about it, except for the condition that it was on, but I mentioned that I wouldn't mind having something like that to beat around in. I remember saying that it was almost a shame that the previous owner(s) went through the trouble it so nice, because there are probably only a handful of people who would appreciate something like that.
I really like that interior color, too. It's not often that you see a car with a blue interior that bright. A buddy of mine had a '78 Malibu that had a light blue interior, but it was much more muted. More of a grayish blue, I guess, where that Delta looks like its blue has just a touch of green.
BMW Isetta. On a trailer on the mass pike, along with 2 jet skis. THe kicker? THe Isetta was Sideways on the trailer! Now that is short.
Also an early 70's VW van on I84. In the slow lane natch.
A 1962ish yellow Corvair in a driveway, almost engulfed by a tree.
And a mid-50's Buick 4 door with portholes (of course) along rt. 206 near Princeton.
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1967 Mustang Convertible
1967 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible
Mid 60's Pontiac Lemans 2-door hardtop. Absolutely excellent condition.
60-something Mercury Cyclone Convertible.
Even my wife commented on all the old machinery we saw within a 10 minute span.
From googling, I think it was a '66 VIP model..
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Also saw a sweet Aston DB 2-3, all kitted out for rallying, and with badges for Mille Miglia 2006 historic run, just parked at the kerb.
Third was a Fiat 500 Giardiniera wagon, an early one with suicide doors so 1960/5.
The Isetta was a Velam version, so itis rarer as it is licence-produced French version. I belong to the UK Register of Unusual Microcars, and somebody would pay good money for that here too, but in Canada? I suppose you could get it sent by parcel post...
What I really did like was the Lancia Aprillia, that was beautiful....
Am I right in saying the conventional Chrysler outsold the Airflow when new - the latter was too revolutionary then?
The Lincoln Zephyr was a little more normal and helped people become accustomed to streamlined styling which would be mass market by wartime.
I suspect such cars were accepted with more open arms in Europe, but as exotic imports would have been quite expensive compared to normal cars.
I remember seeing a Lincoln Zephyr in a pretty derelict condition in Cork, Ireland in the late 60's when I was a kid, (had to look it up as I haden't heard of it) - it was there for a couple of years (we went there for family holidays and the ferry came in at Cork). Never saw one on the road though until carshows a long time later.
Part of the problem is what people in the 1930s were used to. They needed to see where the engine was (up front, just like the horse) and they needed a visual sense of what propelled the car.
In some recent car magazine (Automobile?) that provides auction reports, there's a UK assembled 30s Chrysler that was once owned by one of the Rolling Stones or something to that effect. It indeed looks like a Dodge.
I dunno if this is true or not, but I heard that the way Chrysler figured out aerodynamics back then was that they took a 1932 DeSoto and mounted its body backwards on the frame, rigged it up to be driveable, and found that it got better gas mileage than it did with the body turned around the "correct" way.
The Airflow actually WAS wind-tunnel tested, so some thought was put into streamlining it. But then, the 1978 Malibu was also a result of wind tunnel testing, so maybe that's not much of an argument! Anybody have an idea what the drag coefficient would be of an Airflow?
This car had no right side mirror, yes kids they were once optional, even on fancy cars like 911s.
-A Suzuki X90, a misbegotten design to be sure but apparently in good DD shape.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I see an immaculate Suzuki X90 every day on the way to work... I'm hoping he has a short commute.. it looks dangerous..
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First off, mirrors back then were tiny compared to today. Now back then, I don't think that was much of a problem, because that's all people were used to. Plus, back then people were trained to actually LOOK before taking action, and not depending on what they see in the mirror. But when you get used to these massive things of today, especially truck mirrors, and then have to go back to those old ones, they're practically useless. Plus, unless they're power or cable-operated, you either need a friend to help you position the passenger-side, or you have to keep guessing at it, adjusting it and then sitting in your seat to see if you got it right, then getting up to repeat if necessary.
I think about the only thing those older mirrors are good for is to give the car a symmetric look.
I couldn't imagine trying to deal with NYC area roads without a mirror on each side. :surprise:
They were a PITA to adjust but I used them all the time.
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I see an X90 every week or so around here - the driver looks like she is about twelve....