I've gotta agree with Andre on this one. The Sedan looks better, the vinyl roof does nothing for the coupe either IMO but then I've never seen an XJ6C w/o it.
I'm a fan of the early (1980s?) 560SEC HT coupes as well. It's sort of a Teutonic Pontiac GTO.
...maybe I'm the wacked one, but at least that will leave more Jag Coupes for me to play with...:-)
I feel that the line of good-looking MB Coupés ended with the SLC models (C107, up until 81 or so), the following ones have always been sorta tank-like and lacking the graceful lines of their predecessors. Only the latest CL seems to have got some of that groove back.
I never was too crazy about this style either. I mean, I give it bonus points for being a hardtop and having roll-down rear windows (I think any 2-door with roll-down rear windows is a cool thing!) but I just think the roofline is kinda awkward. Makes me think a bit of those little Plymouth Sapporos and Dodge Challengers that had the roll-down windows in back, but also had louvers covering part of the window.
I LOVE the current Benz hardtops though. At least, the looks of 'em, that is. I tried to sit in one though, at the DC auto show this past winter. Even more daring, I tried (and I stress "tried") to fit in the back. If I had a spare $100K to throw around on a plaything like that, then sure it'd be cool. But alas, I don't :-(
...it's official: I am NOT weird, as YOU are the one with the roofline fetish! Geez, what a relief. *g*
I cannot imagine what a display of folding body parts it must be trying to accommodate yourself in the back of any currect two-seater. How tall are you?
BTW, that Coupé you posted is exactly the model I meant, even though the high-profile rubbers somehow scream I'm old like nothing else. Simple and non-intrusive surgery is available, though...
I'm 6'3", but a bit disproportionate in height. Long legs, but not so long in the torso. Legroom's usually the major factor for me. Headroom-wise, most cars fit me just fine, although I think that Benz I sat in at the auto show was pretty tight in that dept, too!
As for those tires...hey, at least they're not whitewalls! ;-)
I see, good YOU didn't grow up in/with a W111 Coupé! I remember the rear leg room being not even adequate with the front seats pushed most of the way forward. Some of those habitats would qualify as cruelty under AI rules, I bet.
The market seems to agree with Andre and Andy as well...the XJC never really caught on with collectors. They are worth more than an XJ6 sedan but that's not saying much, as you literally can't give away an XJ6 with needs or high miles.
Ironically the only Jaguar sedan that shows any vital signs in the collector market is the 3.8 sedan, especially with wire wheels, left hand drive, and a 4-speed overdrive. (right hand drives with automatic are hard to sell to anybody). These cars are now pushing over $30,000 in top shape at auction! You'd be lucky to get 1/3 of that for a stunning XJC.
The experts keep insisting that the XJC will become a collectible but they've been saying it for so long we've kind of stop listening.
As you say, all the better for the people who like them.
The Jaguar coupes were made only 4 years I think, but only 2 years in America because nobody bought them.
Shifty, my fintail has discs and dual circuit brakes, like on the coupe mentioned. It just needs a set of wide whites.
If the coupe is like the sedan, it should handle pretty well given its size and the fact it has a 2.2 litre engine in a tank-like car. The 111 was quite the competition car.
I still want a 112 300SE LWB sedan. Now there's an obscure car, I bet there can't be more than around 100 in the world that are still roadworthy. And as the super-high end model of the fintail, it has to be cool.
Oh, maybe it's only the later fintails then, the last series, that has the discs? Mine didn't I distinctly remember. Drums all 'round. Stopped okay though.
Does that 300 Sedan have the dreaded air suspension as well?
Yeah, mine is a later series...better brakes, discs, 4 speed auto...really pretty modern for a 40 year old car.
The 300 had the air suspension, the whole 9 yards, it was also the first model with MBs famous power lock system. I don't even want to know what it would be like to work on one....the fintail's FI is weird enough. I look under the hood at all the plumbing, and I just don't get it. All I know is the car can sit for 4 or 5 weeks and still start effortlessly.
Actually old Mercedes fuel injectioin systems are damn good, and usually trouble-free. Benz was, after all, the first company to put injection on a production car, way back in 1955. and it worked just about perfecttly, too, right out of the box. Only thing I can think of is that the injection will tend to load up the plugs---you have to drive those old Benzes hard sometimes---wind 'em up.
I am approaching 10 years on the fintail, and have never once had to even touch the FI, save for seasonal idle speed adjustments. Those old mechanical systems are amazing. I just hope nothing ever goes wrong, because I will be clueless if it does.
The fintail loves to be wound up...I drive it much harder than I do the 126. Rev it way up when accelerating, downshift instead of brake...the car seems happiest when treated that way. If it just dawdles along, especially in city traffic, it will start to run a little poorly. It hates stop and go, and if it sits like in a lineup for maybe 20 mins or more, the engine will miss.
Junky auto auction this morning had a top of the line 1983 Volvo diesel...that seemed kind of odd. Also a thrashed 928.
jrosas, I recently sold it. Two cars made no sense. I sold it at basically a $300 loss. Not bad for resale!
I am moving back to Seattle so I am trying to find a car that's stylish, reliable, and can handle mountain driving. I may break down and get a Subie, but a 4-matic Benz would be fun.
That Toyota Stout really is obscure. I've never seen one, and I can remember back to the late 60's when Toyota first started importing to the US. I wonder how old that Stout is? Was it imported to Canada only? Any guesses??
Speaking of old pickups, I saw a restored black '59 El Camino today. It was very slick! Usually, I see a lot of Chevelle-bodied El Caminos from the mid-60's and early 70's, but rarely see the Impala-based El Camino's that they built in '59 and '60.
I am going to guess mid 60s. I got the pic from google and didn't look at the source page. It was actually parked at a Toyota dealership, but I think it was a customer car...I was there to look at an old MB. I saw it up close...it looked really cheap...tin can metal and all. It wasn't restored like the pic, but it wasn't rusty or anything...just an old car. And it really looks like a knock off of an International pickup to me. I am pretty sure it was sold in the US...I saw it in the US and it had Washington plates.
Those nicer GM designs just reinforce how the company has faltered.
is a '67. If you right-click on the pic and select view image, it'll show you the image with it's own url, and 67 is in the address. Ugly little thing, but kinda interesting!
I hope I don't offend you in any way, but I know you're in your mid-to-late 20's, and I'm in my early 20's, and you own two nice older Benzes. However, when I talk with my car enthusiast friends who are my age, they always seem to diss Mercedes and try to change the subject to BMW or any other make. My best friend drives an older, nicely-kept BMW 525i, and one of my other friends has a mid-'90s Audi A6.
To me though, Mercedes doesn't seem to invoke passion. I mean, they're extremely well-built durable cars, but they don't have the feel of, say, a BMW 3-Series or a Volvo 850 for that matter. Every time I try an older Benz or Jag, I am always happy to get back into my '93 850 (which has been the most fun car I have ever had).
I wonder- if the Fintail or 126 300SE were to go eventually, would you consider going to, say, a 535i or 735iL BMW?
No offense taken. If they were to go, I would replace them with a early-mid 90s W124 500E/E500. A V12 S class is tempting, but maintenance would be a nightmare I am sure, not to mention consumption.
A friend of mine has a 96 850...it's a nicely equipped car, but the refinement of even my S class with the little 6 cylinder is light years ahead. I guess it depends on what "feel" you like most. I like that solid as a vault feel, and the feel of material quality that cannot be approached. I know the car has the potential for decent performance as well...and I don't have to be forced to feel that constantly...just when I want.
I have never cared for BMW styling...I don't like the dogleg rear window. And maybe it goes back to childhood too. I always liked MB when I was younger...I always sought out toy MBs, and the S class in particular appealed to me...always the bad guy's car, so imposing and solid.
And money is another matter. I am pretty much a tightwad. I have around 9 grand involved in the purchase price of the 126 and fintail together. Money in the bank is as attractive as many cars. Both cars are also cheap to insure and are more or less finished depreciating.
I am a bit of an anomaly for my age group. I like big wafty cars, yet cars that are composed at speed. I like a car that will be as comfortable at 120 as it is at 60. I also like timeless styling. If I want something really sporty, I will get something sporty...yet probably big, like a Supra (or a Yamaha YZF1000R...but that's another matter). I know MB is a bit of an old man's car for most models...none of my friends drive one, that's for sure. But there's a benefit to that.
If I was to get a BMW, it would be a 95-on 7 series, or maybe a 97-on 5 series, but it would have to be mint....I really can't think of anything else. The current M3 is pretty damn nice, but I could never justify the cost. And if I could find that immaculate blue 124 500E/E500 for less than any of those, I would jump on it.
The reason I drive a Volvo is that it's all I can afford at the moment, and it's relatively cheap to insure. Also, it (my '93 850) has only 100k miles on it and never sees the winter. This is why when I get back home from Europe in early Dec., my dad and I will look for a beater Volvo, preferably an early '90s 740 or 940, for me to drive for the upcoming months.
And listen to this: one of my friends here drives a '99 BMW M3 back home. But it costs so much bucks to insure, according to him! That's outrageous and I can't believe it myself!
I am sure your 850 not a bad car...when you look at the all around expense involved, it's probably a pretty good car.
I bet M3 insurance approaches that of a Porsche or Corvette...I can't even imagine. Insuring a couple old Mercedes is maybe like insuring a new Taurus.
Mercedes Gullwing is a passionate car, and still goes like hell, too. Back in 1955 you could do 140 mph right out of the box with it.
A Volvo diesel and a flogged 928. Yikes, two money pits waiting for a new victim. Those are two cars you really want to run away from, screaming preferably. Both will bury you in short order.
Funny how fine a line between happiness and hell with old cars. An 80s Volvo with a gas engine could last you a long time, and a well-cared for 928 is a cheap supercar---but pick the wrong model or the wrong condition, and you're toast.
Today I spotted a '74 full-sized Pontiac hardtop coupe. Couldn't tell if it was a Grande Ville or a Bonneville, but I know it wasn't a Catalina, which had a "faster" roofline. Anyway, the main reason it got my interest was that it looked like it was abandoned...sitting at a gas station, no tags, and just beat-up looking. But it has the coolest 15" big-bolt pattern Rally II wheels! I'm tempted to find out what the story is behind the car. If it's just abandoned, I wonder if the gas station would let me tow it away? I'd love those wheels for my '67 Catalina. I could put 'em on, and then just haul the Bonneville off to the junkyard, if it doesn't run. (or if it does, use it as a beater). Is there any way to "claim" an abandoned car?
Also at this gas station was a '71-72 Cutlass Supreme coupe, in that bright medium blue they used to offer. Sweet looking car.
Also saw a guy cruising around in a '64-65 T-bird, yellow with a white top. There's a burgundy '64 T-bird up the street from me for sale...asking $4500. I've never looked at it close up, but from driving by, it doesn't look too bad. Maybe it's time to walk the dog, and I should take the dog up that way to check it out closer? ;-)
The Volvo was weird as it was a really loaded model...leather, sunroof, wheels, manual transmission no less...and a diesel. I have to think that combination is really rare...not for good reasons either. It wasn't exactly mint either. The 928 was one of the worst I have seen...interior was a mess, the dash was all cracked, the paint was thin and shot...I am sure it was lovely under the hood.
I saw an immaculate 72 or so Coupe Deville today...once common, but not seen at all now. I also saw the strangest thing on a car carrier...there were but 2 cars on this big semi...a Kia Rio on top, and a '64 Chevy II/Nova 2 door post on the bottom.
a guy I coach baseball with has an affinity for old Mopars. He has a baby blue 70 (I think) full size convertible. IIRC, it might be an Imperial, but it is enormous. Last few days he was in a late 1970's vintage (if I had to guess)New Yorker. 2 tone, vinyl roof. The front end had the chisel/sloped look, kinda like a Mirada. Pretty large boat, but looked to be in nice condition. Don't think I have seen another one of those in the last decade.
Sounds like it might've been a '79-81 New Yorker. They had kind of a chiseled, sloped-back front-end and crisp, angular lines. They also had kind of a funky roofline that almost looked like it tried to combine a sedan, a hardtop, and a coupe. Frameless door windows, but with a B-pillar, and opera windows built into the rear doors, with a thin sliver of window that actually rolled all the way down. They actually had landau roofs, which I guess was kinda rare for a 4-door at the time (although Chrysler hung onto that fetish with just about every New Yorker since then, along with the LeBaron sedan).
I always loved the style of those '79-81 New Yorkers. In fact, I found a '79 NYer 5th Ave on eBay a few years back, and snatched it up. Unfortunately the 5th Ave only came in a limited-edition creme-over-beige, which looks nice in its own way (I don't think any modern car could pull it off though!), but I've seen a few NYers in that 2-tone blue, which I think is beautiful. They also had a 2-tone green, which I reall love, and also a 2-tone burgundy. Again, they're all color schemes that no modern car could probably ever get away with, but somehow they look right at home on those long, chiseled Chryslers.
They were comparatively rare, with something like 55K units sold in '79, and only like maybe 13K in 1980 and around 5-6K in '81. They made great taxis, which I think ultimately did them in. Once they'd hit the used car market, cabbies would snatch 'em up, and run 'em into the ground. Well that, and the '79's had a tendency to rust!
This is probably a pretty good town to own one since it doesn't rain much in Boise. I just thought it was a '70ish hunk of Detroit iron until both doors opened at the 4 way stop. I don't know what that was about; they weren't playing red light.
...every morning on my way to work - a '50s Nash Metropolitan and what appears to be a late 1940s Rolls-Royce. On my way home I pass a 1968 AMC Ambassador and a 1965 Buick Wildcat.
obscurities. I spent the weekend in the Mystic/Stonington area of Connecticut. The beautiful fall weather and the seashore makes the area a magnet for unusual cars.
-MG-TF/ca.'54-55. I followed this beauty for 4-5 miles, had the top off naturally.
-BMW 6 series-ca. '80s. I saw at least two nice ones including an M6 and a slightly tatty earlier one, either a 630CSi or a 635.
-Street rods-- a '32 Roadster looking tatty but quite driveable, assorted other ones and an honest-to-God "Lead Sled"/'49 Merc coupe- chopped and channelled, small-block Chevy, suicide doors candy apple paint and all. The owner had a prism fit into the windshield header to be able to see traffic lights thru the low cut widshield.
This Merc was a real crowd pleaser spoiled only by small imperfections in the otherwise great paint job and a pair of faux Lake Pipes. The pipes looked great but I don't see the point if the real pipes are still there exiting under the rear bumper.
Mystery Rolls Royce-this was parked right outside my room under a car cover all weekend. It was low enough to be a recent (Shadow or newer) design but old enough to wear wheel covers rather than alloys. We also saw a Silver Spur drive by in town.
On US1 in Ft. Lauderdale, I saw a Nissan Skyline GT-R. Didn't have enough time to see if it was an R-33 or -34. Very cool to see a car that was never sold here. It was on the way to visit the Auto Toy Store where there were a few interesting things:
Two Hummer stretch limos 1966 Ford GT40 - white with purple stripes 911 slant nose a trio of Lamborghini Diablos a few Ferrari 360's and 550's various RR and Bentley models
At a previous stop at the Barnes and Noble, there was a new Maserati Spyder. Beautiful.
Not for sale (they sell normal cars), but the owner has a large collection of antiques/classics/etc. Just a few of the ones "laying around":
- a 20 something Roller (big huge black box - very imposing) - a 70s vintage roller - a 1932 Cadillac. Awesome looking beast (it was the driver du jour because the weather was nice). - a 1953 Vette in the showroom, along with an MG T (C I think). Also a Jag XK-120 chassis and shell (no interior). - Jag XJ_S convertible (this one for sale) - 2002 Sebring COnvert with a 5 speed stick (well, it is obscure).
Yes, the MGC has a rather lazy 6 under the hood, a "Pretend" Healey engine really--the MGBV8 had the perennial Rover/Buick V8--which was not that fast actually. A well tuned MGB 4 cylilnder (modified) could keep up with it.
If the MGC owner stuffed a V8 in it, then he's modified the car and really not improved it, since the problem with it was handling. It was very nose heavy and slugglish---more of a straight line cruiser, THE MBC, which it did very well. The media beat up on this car mercilessly when it first came out, and that killed it. It wasn't as bad a car as the media made it out to be. I guess they were disappointed that it wasn't a good MGB and it wasn't a good Austin Healey.
Old Rolls---you can buy these cars very cheap, especially 80s models, because maintenance costs are frightening so nobody wants them. If you're patient, $15,000 should be more than enough. Of course, that's just the beginning of your expenses.
They made 5 speed S-class for the Euro market up until 91. I wish they would have sold them here. MB inline 6s love to rev and there's only so much you can do with an auto.
The venerable 6 in that car is not MBs best engine, btw.
That fintail is priced right if it had no rust. Otherwise, too much for a lowline car.
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Somehow, the sedan actually looks like it has a lower roofline.
I'm a fan of the early (1980s?) 560SEC HT coupes as well. It's sort of a Teutonic Pontiac GTO.
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I feel that the line of good-looking MB Coupés ended with the SLC models (C107, up until 81 or so), the following ones have always been sorta tank-like and lacking the graceful lines of their predecessors. Only the latest CL seems to have got some of that groove back.
I LOVE the current Benz hardtops though. At least, the looks of 'em, that is. I tried to sit in one though, at the DC auto show this past winter. Even more daring, I tried (and I stress "tried") to fit in the back. If I had a spare $100K to throw around on a plaything like that, then sure it'd be cool. But alas, I don't :-(
I cannot imagine what a display of folding body parts it must be trying to accommodate yourself in the back of any currect two-seater. How tall are you?
BTW, that Coupé you posted is exactly the model I meant, even though the high-profile rubbers somehow scream I'm old like nothing else. Simple and non-intrusive surgery is available, though...
As for those tires...hey, at least they're not whitewalls! ;-)
Ironically the only Jaguar sedan that shows any vital signs in the collector market is the 3.8 sedan, especially with wire wheels, left hand drive, and a 4-speed overdrive. (right hand drives with automatic are hard to sell to anybody). These cars are now pushing over $30,000 in top shape at auction! You'd be lucky to get 1/3 of that for a stunning XJC.
The experts keep insisting that the XJC will become a collectible but they've been saying it for so long we've kind of stop listening.
As you say, all the better for the people who like them.
The Jaguar coupes were made only 4 years I think, but only 2 years in America because nobody bought them.
If the coupe is like the sedan, it should handle pretty well given its size and the fact it has a 2.2 litre engine in a tank-like car. The 111 was quite the competition car.
I still want a 112 300SE LWB sedan. Now there's an obscure car, I bet there can't be more than around 100 in the world that are still roadworthy. And as the super-high end model of the fintail, it has to be cool.
Does that 300 Sedan have the dreaded air suspension as well?
The 300 had the air suspension, the whole 9 yards, it was also the first model with MBs famous power lock system. I don't even want to know what it would be like to work on one....the fintail's FI is weird enough. I look under the hood at all the plumbing, and I just don't get it. All I know is the car can sit for 4 or 5 weeks and still start effortlessly.
This morning I spotted an Infiniti I35. That's a rare car, right?
The fintail loves to be wound up...I drive it much harder than I do the 126. Rev it way up when accelerating, downshift instead of brake...the car seems happiest when treated that way. If it just dawdles along, especially in city traffic, it will start to run a little poorly. It hates stop and go, and if it sits like in a lineup for maybe 20 mins or more, the engine will miss.
Junky auto auction this morning had a top of the line 1983 Volvo diesel...that seemed kind of odd. Also a thrashed 928.
I am moving back to Seattle so I am trying to find a car that's stylish, reliable, and can handle mountain driving. I may break down and get a Subie, but a 4-matic Benz would be fun.
Speaking of old pickups, I saw a restored black '59 El Camino today. It was very slick! Usually, I see a lot of Chevelle-bodied El Caminos from the mid-60's and early 70's, but rarely see the Impala-based El Camino's that they built in '59 and '60.
Those nicer GM designs just reinforce how the company has faltered.
That truck was cool in its own way I guess...must have been some 60s Japanese interpretation of modern. The weirdest thing I have seen lately.
To me though, Mercedes doesn't seem to invoke passion. I mean, they're extremely well-built durable cars, but they don't have the feel of, say, a BMW 3-Series or a Volvo 850 for that matter. Every time I try an older Benz or Jag, I am always happy to get back into my '93 850 (which has been the most fun car I have ever had).
I wonder- if the Fintail or 126 300SE were to go eventually, would you consider going to, say, a 535i or 735iL BMW?
A friend of mine has a 96 850...it's a nicely equipped car, but the refinement of even my S class with the little 6 cylinder is light years ahead. I guess it depends on what "feel" you like most. I like that solid as a vault feel, and the feel of material quality that cannot be approached. I know the car has the potential for decent performance as well...and I don't have to be forced to feel that constantly...just when I want.
I have never cared for BMW styling...I don't like the dogleg rear window. And maybe it goes back to childhood too. I always liked MB when I was younger...I always sought out toy MBs, and the S class in particular appealed to me...always the bad guy's car, so imposing and solid.
And money is another matter. I am pretty much a tightwad. I have around 9 grand involved in the purchase price of the 126 and fintail together. Money in the bank is as attractive as many cars. Both cars are also cheap to insure and are more or less finished depreciating.
I am a bit of an anomaly for my age group. I like big wafty cars, yet cars that are composed at speed. I like a car that will be as comfortable at 120 as it is at 60. I also like timeless styling. If I want something really sporty, I will get something sporty...yet probably big, like a Supra (or a Yamaha YZF1000R...but that's another matter). I know MB is a bit of an old man's car for most models...none of my friends drive one, that's for sure. But there's a benefit to that.
If I was to get a BMW, it would be a 95-on 7 series, or maybe a 97-on 5 series, but it would have to be mint....I really can't think of anything else. The current M3 is pretty damn nice, but I could never justify the cost. And if I could find that immaculate blue 124 500E/E500 for less than any of those, I would jump on it.
And listen to this: one of my friends here drives a '99 BMW M3 back home. But it costs so much bucks to insure, according to him! That's outrageous and I can't believe it myself!
I bet M3 insurance approaches that of a Porsche or Corvette...I can't even imagine. Insuring a couple old Mercedes is maybe like insuring a new Taurus.
A Volvo diesel and a flogged 928. Yikes, two money pits waiting for a new victim. Those are two cars you really want to run away from, screaming preferably. Both will bury you in short order.
Funny how fine a line between happiness and hell with old cars. An 80s Volvo with a gas engine could last you a long time, and a well-cared for 928 is a cheap supercar---but pick the wrong model or the wrong condition, and you're toast.
Also at this gas station was a '71-72 Cutlass Supreme coupe, in that bright medium blue they used to offer. Sweet looking car.
Also saw a guy cruising around in a '64-65 T-bird, yellow with a white top. There's a burgundy '64 T-bird up the street from me for sale...asking $4500. I've never looked at it close up, but from driving by, it doesn't look too bad. Maybe it's time to walk the dog, and I should take the dog up that way to check it out closer? ;-)
I saw an immaculate 72 or so Coupe Deville today...once common, but not seen at all now. I also saw the strangest thing on a car carrier...there were but 2 cars on this big semi...a Kia Rio on top, and a '64 Chevy II/Nova 2 door post on the bottom.
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I always loved the style of those '79-81 New Yorkers. In fact, I found a '79 NYer 5th Ave on eBay a few years back, and snatched it up. Unfortunately the 5th Ave only came in a limited-edition creme-over-beige, which looks nice in its own way (I don't think any modern car could pull it off though!), but I've seen a few NYers in that 2-tone blue, which I think is beautiful. They also had a 2-tone green, which I reall love, and also a 2-tone burgundy. Again, they're all color schemes that no modern car could probably ever get away with, but somehow they look right at home on those long, chiseled Chryslers.
They were comparatively rare, with something like 55K units sold in '79, and only like maybe 13K in 1980 and around 5-6K in '81. They made great taxis, which I think ultimately did them in. Once they'd hit the used car market, cabbies would snatch 'em up, and run 'em into the ground. Well that, and the '79's had a tendency to rust!
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-MG-TF/ca.'54-55. I followed this beauty for 4-5 miles, had the top off naturally.
-BMW 6 series-ca. '80s. I saw at least two nice ones including an M6 and a slightly tatty earlier one, either a 630CSi or a 635.
-Street rods-- a '32 Roadster looking tatty but quite driveable, assorted other ones and an honest-to-God "Lead Sled"/'49 Merc coupe- chopped and channelled, small-block Chevy, suicide doors candy apple paint and all. The owner had a prism fit into the windshield header to be able to see
traffic lights thru the low cut widshield.
This Merc was a real crowd pleaser spoiled only by small imperfections in the otherwise great paint job and a pair of faux Lake Pipes.
The pipes looked great but I don't see the point if the real pipes are still there exiting under the rear bumper.
Mystery Rolls Royce-this was parked right outside my room under a car cover all weekend. It was low enough to be a recent (Shadow or newer) design but old enough to wear wheel covers rather than alloys.
We also saw a Silver Spur drive by in town.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Two Hummer stretch limos
1966 Ford GT40 - white with purple stripes
911 slant nose
a trio of Lamborghini Diablos
a few Ferrari 360's and 550's
various RR and Bentley models
At a previous stop at the Barnes and Noble, there was a new Maserati Spyder. Beautiful.
Saw a stunningly beautiful Lotus Seven in BRG. Better yet, it was on the track, teaching heavier, newer cars a lesson in power/weight ratios.
One thing that surprised me was how quiet it was, and how flat it cornered.
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- a 20 something Roller (big huge black box - very imposing)
- a 70s vintage roller
- a 1932 Cadillac. Awesome looking beast (it was the driver du jour because the weather was nice).
- a 1953 Vette in the showroom, along with an MG T (C I think). Also a Jag XK-120 chassis and shell (no interior).
- Jag XJ_S convertible (this one for sale)
- 2002 Sebring COnvert with a 5 speed stick (well, it is obscure).
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the Buick/Rover V8 was cleverly called the MGV8.
At least that's how I remember it, perhaps Shifty can confirm (or not).
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If the MGC owner stuffed a V8 in it, then he's modified the car and really not improved it, since the problem with it was handling. It was very nose heavy and slugglish---more of a straight line cruiser, THE MBC, which it did very well. The media beat up on this car mercilessly when it first came out, and that killed it. It wasn't as bad a car as the media made it out to be. I guess they were disappointed that it wasn't a good MGB and it wasn't a good Austin Healey.
Old Rolls---you can buy these cars very cheap, especially 80s models, because maintenance costs are frightening so nobody wants them. If you're patient, $15,000 should be more than enough. Of course, that's just the beginning of your expenses.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
It's a five speed!
Buy it, put limo tint on the windows, big chrome rims, then sell it for twice as much while claimign it used to belong to a hip hop star. ;-)
-juice
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
The seller is being forthright and says it's a 6 in bold text.
-juice
The venerable 6 in that car is not MBs best engine, btw.
That fintail is priced right if it had no rust. Otherwise, too much for a lowline car.